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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi, Francis<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>No, EU is not paying for my trip. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I am in <st1:City w:st="on">Delft</st1:City>,
and it is easy to get to <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Brussels</st1:City></st1:place>,
so I go without any support. Never asked for it, never was discussed. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>--MM <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> Dr. Francis MUGUET [mailto:muguet@mdpi.net] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, May 03, 2009 2:14 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">governance@lists.cpsr.org</st1:PersonName>;
jlfullsack; WSIS Civil Soc. WG on Information Networks Governance<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Roland Perry; Caucus Europe<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: AW: [governance]
hearing on Internet Governance arrangements</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Dear Jean-Louis<br>
Hello everybody <br>
<br>
I could not agree more with you, after the parliament, now <br>
the commission hearings are a sinister joke.<br>
EU that is posing itself as the defender of freedom and openness in<br>
Un meetings, shame on you ! <br>
I am not proud being an European ! <br>
<br>
It appears that the call for those hearings has not been inclusive, if not
secretive...<br>
<a
href="http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/policy/internet_gov/index_en.htm"
target="blank_">EU Commission hearing on future Internet Governance arrangement
</a>( 06 May 2009, <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Brussels</st1:City>,
<st1:country-region w:st="on">Belgium</st1:country-region></st1:place> ) <br>
<br>
<i><span style='font-style:italic'>For logistical reasons participation is by
invitation only.<br>
</span></i>I guess that in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">North
Korea</st1:place></st1:country-region>, there are also similar
"logistical reasons"<br>
<br>
It would be interesting to have the list of the invitees ... <br>
it is the least to ask <br>
<br>
But just let me guess... by logistics... would it means that that<br>
the EU commission is paying for travel expenses ?<br>
<br>
Please <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Milton</st1:place></st1:City>,
one of the few invitees I am aware of, could you tell<br>
us if the EU is paying for your trip ? <br>
<br>
Jean-Louis has not been invited, me neither, and none of my friends <br>
that I am aware of. <br>
<br>
Then who are the happy few invited ? <br>
Only the regular of the ICANN meetings ?<br>
but the call refers to the <a href="http://www.intgovforum.org/" target="_blank">Internet
Governance Forum (IGF) ?</a><br>
.<br>
Because of this secretive operation, it is not surprising that there are only<br>
four submissions :<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>CENTR<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> <a
href="http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/policy/internet_gov/docs/centr_%20final.pdf"
target="_blank"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=16
height=16 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.gif@01C9CC11.AB93F2C0"
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Dr. Milton Mueller<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <a
href="http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/policy/internet_gov/docs/mueller.pdf"
target="_blank"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=16
height=16 id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image001.gif@01C9CC11.AB93F2C0"
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><a
href="http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/policy/internet_gov/docs/afnic20090506.pdf"
target="_blank"> <span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0
width=16 height=16 id="_x0000_i1027" src="cid:image001.gif@01C9CC11.AB93F2C0"
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href="http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/policy/internet_gov/docs/isoc_ep_ig_fin.pdf"
target="_blank"> <span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0
width=16 height=16 id="_x0000_i1028" src="cid:image001.gif@01C9CC11.AB93F2C0"
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
By following this kind of non-open, non-inclusive<br>
procedures, the EU commission and the EU parliament<br>
has lost any political, moral and ethical<br>
legitimacy in taking the leadership in forming the EuroIGF.<br>
<br>
The lead towards the EuroIGF. should be taken by all open-minded<br>
European stakeholders, involved in the IGF process, <br>
whether in person, or remotely.<br>
<br>
Best<br>
<br>
Francis <br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
"Roland Perry" <a href="mailto:roland@internetpolicyagency.com"><roland@internetpolicyagency.com></a>
wrote <br>
<br>
<I agree it's likely to be more of a brainstorming session than people
talking to Powerpoint slides> <br>
<br>
Sorry, this doesn't answer the first question I raised. <br>
<br>
< Invitations to attend have been in circulation longer than that.> <br>
<br>
Bis repetita : to whom were these invitations sent "longer than that"
? The info appeared on our list on April 26th as an attached document. <br>
<br>
<the European IGF was a Parliament thing (sic), and this is the
Commission> <br>
<br>
Definitely NO Roland Perry. Please refer to my report of the EP January
2008 sitting I posted on our list. You'll find the approval of the Commissioner
to the proposal made by the Catherine Trautmann, MEP and rapporteur of the
Information Society, for a European IGF to be set up before the Hyderabad IGF.
Thus, for your personal information I've pasted hereafter a small exerpt of my
report. <br>
<br>
<Conclusion by Commissioner Kuneva <br>
The following step : Consultations to be held in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Geneva</st1:place></st1:City> in February; the Commission will
participate in the consultative group. EC is present in the WSIS process still
its very beginning. She thanks particularly Mrs Trautmann and supports her
proposal of a European IGF to be organized and held as soon as possible.
Internet governance is a key issue and therefore the EC supports the analysis
and suggestions of the EP delegation at Rio.> <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Finally, I'd remind you that for the CS organizations, engaged in the WSIS
process and in its actual follow-up, the IGF and its regional declinations
(e.g. the European IGF) is not a "thing" of the EP, but still is one
of our (we as European citizens) main objectives for a people centered and
inclusive Internet, as proclaimed in the CS Declarations of both the Geneva
Summit and the Tunis Summit. <br>
<br>
Nevertheless, I'm not astonished by your comments and advice since you are a
distinguished member of the Internet industry. This is your perfect and
respectable right. But we the actual WSIS CS, and especially the European one,
we need more defining ourselves our beheaviour and guidelines than
"buying" advive from some Internet professionnals. Since we have at
least the same knowledge and experience, and what's more, we are citizens from
our countries, free and independant from any business, and profoundly committed
to improving the lives of peoples, in the North but also in the South. And we
do hope that ICT and Internet will strongly contribute to this aim. That's why
we are fighting i.a. for a suitable Internet governance. <br>
<br>
Best <br>
Jean-Louis Fullsack <br>
<br>
<br>
----- Original Message ----- From: "Roland Perry" <a
href="mailto:roland@internetpolicyagency.com"><roland@internetpolicyagency.com></a>
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To: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org"><governance@lists.cpsr.org></a>
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Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 6:38 PM <br>
Subject: Re: AW: [governance] hearing on Internet Governance arrangements <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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In message <169F4816BEC54B01A6CC3D5D6A654727@PCbureau>, at 18:22:14 on
Thu, 30 Apr 2009, jlfullsack <a href="mailto:jlfullsack@wanadoo.fr"><jlfullsack@wanadoo.fr></a>
writes <br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>A far as I understand there was no formal invitation
to the CS involved in IG or generally in Internet issues for participating in
this "hearing". <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
It's just a fancy name for a meeting, and I agree it's likely to be more of a
brainstorming session than people talking to Powerpoint slides. <br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Second, as for the preceding ITRE Hearing, the
announcement (to whom ?) was made just one week before the meeting. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
Invitations to attend have been in circulation longer than that. <br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Third, all these "hearings" don't replace an
actual European IGF, promised to the EU citizens in January last year, because <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
... the European IGF was a Parliament thing, and this is the Commission. <br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Therefore, the urgent setting-up of an actual Euro-IGF
is the third point that should be strongly raised by (one of) our WSIS CS
member(s). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
Firstly, you are talking to the wrong people, and secondly it all depends who
gets re-elected, and whether the Parliament mandate to have such a meeting is
renewed. I suggest you lobby the reformed ITRE committee after the summer. <br>
-- <br>
Roland Perry <br>
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<pre><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>------------------------------------------------------ <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Francis F. MUGUET Ph.D <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>MDPI Foundation Open Access Journals<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><a
href="http://www.mdpi.org">http://www.mdpi.org</a> <a
href="http://www.mdpi.net">http://www.mdpi.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><a
href="mailto:muguet@mdpi.org">muguet@mdpi.org</a> <a
href="mailto:muguet@mdpi.net">muguet@mdpi.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>ENSTA/KNIS <a
href="http://knis.org">http://knis.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>32 Blvd Victor 75739 PARIS cedex <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">FRANCE</st1:place></st1:country-region> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Phone: (33)1 45 52 60 19 Fax: (33)1 45 52 52 82 <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><a
href="mailto:muguet@ensta.fr">muguet@ensta.fr</a> <a
href="http://www.ensta.fr/~muguet">http://www.ensta.fr/~muguet</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>PC4D : <a
href="http://www.pc4d.org">http://www.pc4d.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>World <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Summit</st1:place></st1:City> On the Information Society (WSIS)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Civil Society Working Groups<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Scientific Information : <a
href="http://www.wsis-si.org">http://www.wsis-si.org</a> chair <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Patents & Copyrights : <a
href="http://www.wsis-pct.org">http://www.wsis-pct.org</a> co-chair<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Financing Mechanismns : <a
href="http://www.wsis-finance.org">http://www.wsis-finance.org</a> web<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Info. Net. Govermance : <a
href="http://www.wsis-gov.org">http://www.wsis-gov.org</a> web<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>NET4D : <a
href="http://www.net4D.org">http://www.net4D.org</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>UNMSP : <a
href="http://www.unmsp.org">http://www.unmsp.org</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>WTIS : <a
href="http://www.wtis.org">http://www.wtis.org</a> REUSSI : <a
href="http://www.reussi.org">http://www.reussi.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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