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<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Sorry Thomas . I think there
was a cut and paste problem. I meant to put the text that we agreed on.<br>
<br>
so it will be. <br>
<br>
"</font>The Internet's present governance structures grew out of
certain historical contexts, as well as some new socio-political
realities around the Internet. In the context of rapid changes that
the Internet has wrought, the key and emerging issues related to its
governance could not have been anticipated by anyone. One thing
however is clear by now; the Internet is not just a technical
artifact, requiring technical governance with regard to keeping it
running smoothly, but a key socio-political phenomenon requiring
participative, inclusive and accountable political governance, <font
face="Arial" size="2"><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman"><span
class="406323710-16042009">which includes its
internationalization</span></font></font></font>. It is important to
analyze the needs of evolution and internationalization of IG from
various standpoints and the direction in which we might move from
here."<br>
<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><br>
Thanks for pointing this out. <br>
<br>
Parminder <br>
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Thomas Lowenhaupt wrote:
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">While the "Internationalization"
language is somewhat changes from that which we discussed, I support
moving forward with both workshops.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Tom Lowenhaupt</font></div>
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<div
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; <a moz-do-not-send="true" title="gurstein@gmail.com"
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href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com">'Ian Peter'</a> </div>
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Re: [Fwd: [governance] Workshop proposal - Internationalisation of</div>
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<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">IGC-ers<br>
<br>
IGC has always taken lead in some key political issues at each IGF, and
it will be rather amiss if we do not do. Moreover, it will not be the
best outcome of all the energy and time we all devote here voluntarily
for some public interest causes we believe it. <br>
<br>
I therefore seek views and endorsements for the two workshops that i
think have a history in IGC's political engagements in global IG
forums, especially the IGF. I am trying to push this at this late hour
because I do believe ob both these subjects - Network Neutrality and
Internationalisation of IG - there is a strong support in the IGC,
which for some reasons have not clearly come out. <br>
<br>
</font>So if you do want IGC to sponsor a workshop on these
subjects pl indicate so in the next 24 hours, after which I will
request the coordinators to take a call if enough support for these
workshop has been forthcoming. While the text of the two workshop, at
this stage of discussion, is posted below, we must remember that this
is an initial rough proposal stage, and the final text can be changed
to a considerable extent, within the overall stated subject framework,
later, which we can do over some discussions. On the other hand, if we
do not submit workshop proposals now they cannot be submitted ever for
the IGF 4. <br>
<br>
I am only picking up these two workshops to especially advocate for
them on my behalf within the IGC. Other workshop proposals that are
moving forward will of course keep doing so, and coordinators may take
a final decision tomorrow, though i ma not quite sure what the overall
plan is. <br>
<br>
Thanks, parminder <br>
<br>
Workshop 1 - <br>
<br>
<span class="406323710-16042009"><b><span class="406323710-16042009">I</span>nternationalization
of Internet Governance - The way forward from where we stand today </b></span><br>
The Internet's present governance structures grew out of certain
historical contexts, as well as some new socio-political realities
around the Internet. In the context of rapid changes that the Internet
has wrought, the key and emerging issues related to its governance
could not have been anticipated by anyone. One thing however is clear
by now; the Internet is not just a technical artifact, requiring
technical governance with regard to keeping it running smoothly, but a
key socio-political phenomenon requiring participative, inclusive and
accountable internationalization. It is important to analyze the needs
of evolution and internationalization of IG from various standpoints
and the direction in which we might move from here.<br>
<br>
The workshop will seek to discuss some real institutional
possibilities of what to do next, possibly <br>
presenting and analyzing alternative models, along with the advantages
and disadvantages of each. <br>
<br>
<br>
Relates to theme - IG, CIRs<br>
<br>
<br>
Who would you approach as co-organizers ? Or who do you think
should organize it?<br>
<br>
<br>
IG Caucus would like to organize this workshop..<br>
<br>
It is important to analyze the needs of evolution and
internationalization of IG from various standpoints and the direction
in which we might move from here.<br>
<br>
The workshop will seek to discuss some real institutional
possibilities of what to do next, possibly <br>
presenting and analyzing alternative models, along with the advantages
and disadvantages of each. <br>
<br>
<br>
Relates to theme - IG, CIRs<br>
<br>
<br>
Who would you approach as co-organizers ? Or who do you think
should organize it?<br>
<br>
<br>
IG Caucus would like to organize this workshop<br>
<b><br>
Workshop 2</b><br>
<br>
<b>Network Neutrality - Exploring a global consensus on principles</b><br>
<br>
Concise description (up to 200 words)<br>
There is an increasing recognition of the urgency to develop some kind
of NN principles in order to preserve the open and democratic nature of
the Internet, and safeguard the interest of Internet users and others
affected by it. This workshop will explore recent efforts to articulate
and agree on NN principles in Europe, Japan, the U.S. and developing
countries. While proceeding from numerous national regulatory
developments, it will try to assess the transnational implications of
various approaches to NN, especially vis a vis developing countries who
seem largely absent from NN debates. <br>
<br>
Relates to theme - <br>
Openness<br>
<br>
<br>
Who would you approach as co-organizers ? or who do you think should
organize it?<br>
<br>
Internet Governance Project (IGP) is happy to play a support role in
organizing this. Others we would approach: Free Press (USA-based civil
society advocacy group); Consumer Council of Norway; ITforChange
(India-based civil society advocacy group), Japan Internet Providers
Association and Ministry of Communications. There are other specific
countries or examples that are involved in such negotiations over
principles that we don't know about yet but will learn about later. We
will seek out additional developing country commentators in particular.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Michael Gurstein wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I would support this Workshop.
MBG
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To: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a>; 'Ian Peter'; 'Parminder'
Subject: RE: [Fwd: [governance] Workshop proposal - Internationalisation of
At th is stage as we all seem to be occupied with other things I do not
believe IGC can endorse this workshop (unless there is a flood of support in
next 48 hours and no opposition. Parminder, I would encourage you to submit
it in any case.
Ian Peter
PO Box 429
Bangalow NSW 2479
Australia
Tel (+614) 1966 7772 or (+612) 6687 0773
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From: Ian Peter [<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
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Sent: 18 April 2009 05:12
To: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a>; 'Parminder'
Subject: RE: [Fwd: [governance] Workshop proposal -
Internationalisation of
Thanks Parminder. Any more comments on this? I thinkwe need
expressions of support for the new wording from a few of
those who were not happy with the previous version if we are
to submit this as an IGC proposal
Ian Peter
PO Box 429
Bangalow NSW 2479
Australia
Tel (+614) 1966 7772 or (+612) 6687 0773
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href="http://www.ianpeter.com">www.ianpeter.com</a>
________________________________
From: Parminder [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Sent: 18 April 2009 03:01
To: '<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a>'; Ian Peter
Subject: Re: [Fwd: [governance] Workshop proposal -
Internationalisation of
I am fine with this. Just a technical language related point.
I think we mean IG and not the Internet to be internationalised.
Would therefore prefer
"One thing however is clear by now; the Internet is not
just a technical artifact, requiring technical governance
with regard to keeping it running smoothly, but a key
socio-political phenomenon requiring participative, inclusive
and accountable internationalization."
to be changed to
"One thing however is clear by now; the Internet is not
just a technical artifact, requiring technical governance
with regard to keeping it running smoothly, but a key global
socio-political phenomenon whose governance requires
participative, inclusive and accountable internationalization. "
parminder
Ian Peter wrote:
Let me have one last go at this to see if we
can get some acceptable wording . Please let me know if the
following draft works, or possible amendments that might make
it work. I'm trying to accommodate the range of interesting
viewpoints we have on this subject
- that is going to require removing some of the concepts
which require further discussion or we will not reach agreement
I've changed the original text quite liberally!
Let me know if this works
Title
Internationalization of Internet Governance -
The way forward from where we stand today
Concise description (up to 200 words)
The Internet's present governance structures
grew out of certain historical contexts, as well as some new
socio-political realities around the Internet. In the context
of rapid changes that the Internet has wrought, the key and
emerging issues related to its governance could not have been
anticipated by anyone. One thing however is clear by now; the
Internet is not just a technical artifact, requiring
technical governance with regard to keeping it running
smoothly, but a key socio-political phenomenon requiring
participative, inclusive and accountable
internationalization. It is important to analyze the needs of
evolution and internationalization of IG from various
standpoints and the direction in which we might move from here
The workshop will seek to discuss some real
institutional possibilities of what to do next, possibly
presenting and analyzing alternative models, along with the
advantages and disadvantages of each.
Relates to theme - IG, CIRs
Who would you approach as co-organizers ? Or
who do you think should organize it?
IG Caucus would like to organize this workshop..
Ian Peter
PO Box 429
Bangalow NSW 2479
Australia
Tel (+614) 1966 7772 or (+612) 6687 0773
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="http://www.ianpeter.com">www.ianpeter.com</a>
________________________________
From: Parminder
[<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">mailto:parminder@itforchange.net</a>]
Sent: 13 April 2009 13:07
To: '<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a>'
Subject: [Fwd: [governance] Workshop
proposal - Internationalisation of IG
This is an attempted draft for the
proposed internationalisation workshop.
Title
Democratic internationalization of
Internet Governance - The way forward from where we stand today
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Concise description (up to 200 words)
As the Internet becomes a key factor of
reorganizing our social structures, and doing so at a global
level as never before, democratic global governance of the
Internet is a pressing imperative. Its present governance
structures grew out of certain historical contexts, as well
as of some new socio-political realities around the Internet.
In the context of rapid changes that the Internet has
wrought, the key and emerging issues related to its
governance, and the correspondingly legitimate governance
arrangements, could not have been anticipated by anyone. One
thing however is clear by now; the Internet is not just a
technical artifact, requiring technical governance with
regard to keeping it running smoothly, but a key
socio-political phenomenon requiring participative political
governance by all people of the world, who are all
implicated. However, the direction we move in from here
depends on where we stand. It is important to analyze the
needs of evolution and internationalization of IG from these
dual standpoints.
The workshop will seek to discuss some
real institutional possibilities of what to do next, possibly
presenting and analyzing alternative models, along with the
advantages and disadvantages of each.
Relates to theme - IG, CIRs
Who would you approach as co-organizers
? Or who do you think should organize it?
It is best that this workshop is
organized by civil society actors. IG Caucus will like to
organize this workshop, along with some civil society
organizations form the North and South that have shown interest.
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