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color=#0000ff size=2>Bill, I was thinking more along the lines that probably
well over 90% of the worlds connected computers are in large installations run
by governments and corporations, and these may be responsible for about 10% of
global carbon emissions. There is much that can be done if these groups
co-operate in new ways. Also there were workshops which I found very
disappointing on this in Hyderabad. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>But yes the governance issue is a little hard to find at
this stage and I would certainly not like to see this as a main theme. However I
think there is room for a few regional co-operative approaches, there are a few
national legislation approaches, and definitely internet architecture approaches
that should be examined here or elsewhere. I think these are aspects
of governance in a loose sense. (and lets face it much internet "governance" is
very loose)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=546544519-15042009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>But right now with just a few days to go this does not
appear to be something IGC is enthusisatic to support, and I am happy
t acept that. Iwill give some thought to whether I submit this as an individual
or not.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=MsoAutoSig align=left>Ian Peter</P>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> William Drake
[mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 15 April 2009
19:32<BR><B>To:</B> governance@lists.cpsr.org; Ian Peter<BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [governance] Workshop Proposal - Towards a zero carbon
Internet<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Hi Ian,
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<DIV>Could I ask you to clarify something. Last year when there were
proposals to make climate change a main theme, some of us argued against it,
both on the list and in the consultations (where Nitin agreed). Our
concerns then were two-fold: </DIV>
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<DIV>First, while there are obviously links between Internet/ICT usage and CC,
it wasn't clear what links were being postulated between IG per se and CC.
Was the contention that existing mechanisms---say, the regulation of
registries and registrars, IPV6, or WIPO/WTO regimes----have some
discreet, identifiable impact that could be ameliorated?
Or was it that a new mechanism, say a global regulatory agreement on the
operation of server farms, should be established? There was some good
research done but ultimately the linkages remained a bit undefined as a basis
upon which to proceed.</DIV>
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<DIV>Second, some of us were concerned that the IGF shouldn't go off chasing
UN hot topics (no pun intended) when so many questions about the actual
institutional frameworks and conduct of IG per se had yet to be explored, or
at least explored in any meaningful depth. IGF has generally looked more
at "issues" than "institutions," and in many arenas---standards, cybercrime,
IPR, e-commerce, etc etc---there's not been much focused discussion of whether
the rule systems and decision making procedures in place are optimal, how they
distribute benefits across stakeholder groupings, etc. Sticking with the
original mission rather than diluting the focus has been a leitmotif of caucus
and caucus member interventions over the years, for good reason.</DIV>
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<DIV>If we're going to reverse positions, what has changed since then to make
this the best use of an IGC proposal slot (we can't have too many), especially
when some IOs will probably make similar proposals again? Do you want to
argue for a governance arrangement on energy usage? Or would the steps taken
by various actors in their, uh, respective roles, to reduce emissions comprise
something more like best practices etc?</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
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<DIV>Bill</DIV>
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<DIV>On Apr 13, 2009, at 1:20 AM, Ian Peter wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=062421623-12042009>Let me know what
you think of IGC endorsement of a proposal along these lines, or any
suggested changes. I appreciate this is a particular interest of mine and a
way away from the normal business of IGC, but would be happy to see IGC
involved if people feel that way.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">Title Towards a zero carbon
Internet<O:P></O:P></B></DIV>
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style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><O:P></O:P></B></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">Concise
description<O:P></O:P></B></DIV>
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style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><O:P></O:P></B></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt">This workshop is to specifically explore
the<SPAN class=062421623-12042009> steps</SPAN> which can be taken by
Internet users, but specifically by large private sector and governmental
users, to substantially reduce greenhouse gas emissions associated with
current internet usage patterns and architectures. </DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><O:P></O:P></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt">Much investigation in this area has been
undertaken and there are some fine private sector examples we can look at.
There are also known actions which can be easily adopted which will be
outlined during the workshop.</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt">Please note that this workshop should not
be combined with workshops looking at measurement of IT greenhouse gas
emissions to meet carbon trading scheme requirements. Important as those
measures are, they result in an entirely different discussion involving a
differ<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">ent set of
stakeholders. This workshop is about what can be done immediately and work
going on in the field at this time.</SPAN></DIV>
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style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><O:P></O:P></B></DIV>
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style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><O:P></O:P></B></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">Relates to theme –
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style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><O:P></O:P></B></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt">Critical Internet Resources</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN class=cftext><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">If so, who would you approach as
co-organizers ? If not, who do you think should organize
it?<O:P></O:P></B></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN class=cftext>We would seek to have
involved represntatives of <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Google and VMWare, <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>a representative of the Internet
Architecture Board, a representative of CANARIE (<ST1:COUNTRY-REGION
w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on">Canada</ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION>) who
have a significant program in this area, IISD, APC and
others.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoAutoSig align=left>Ian Peter</P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig>PO Box 429</P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig>Bangalow NSW 2479</P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig>Australia</P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig>Tel (+614) 1966 7772 or (+612) 6687 0773</P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig><A
href="http://www.ianpeter.com">www.ianpeter.com</A></P>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">William J. Drake </DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Graduate Institute of International and</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"> Development Studies</DIV>
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