<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Ian,<div><br></div><div>Could I ask you to clarify something. Last year when there were proposals to make climate change a main theme, some of us argued against it, both on the list and in the consultations (where Nitin agreed). Our concerns then were two-fold: </div><div><br></div><div>First, while there are obviously links between Internet/ICT usage and CC, it wasn't clear what links were being postulated between IG per se and CC. Was the contention that existing mechanisms---say, the regulation of registries and registrars, IPV6, or WIPO/WTO regimes----have some discreet, identifiable impact that could be ameliorated? Or was it that a new mechanism, say a global regulatory agreement on the operation of server farms, should be established? There was some good research done but ultimately the linkages remained a bit undefined as a basis upon which to proceed.</div><div><br></div><div>Second, some of us were concerned that the IGF shouldn't go off chasing UN hot topics (no pun intended) when so many questions about the actual institutional frameworks and conduct of IG per se had yet to be explored, or at least explored in any meaningful depth. IGF has generally looked more at "issues" than "institutions," and in many arenas---standards, cybercrime, IPR, e-commerce, etc etc---there's not been much focused discussion of whether the rule systems and decision making procedures in place are optimal, how they distribute benefits across stakeholder groupings, etc. Sticking with the original mission rather than diluting the focus has been a leitmotif of caucus and caucus member interventions over the years, for good reason.</div><div><br></div><div>If we're going to reverse positions, what has changed since then to make this the best use of an IGC proposal slot (we can't have too many), especially when some IOs will probably make similar proposals again? Do you want to argue for a governance arrangement on energy usage? Or would the steps taken by various actors in their, uh, respective roles, to reduce emissions comprise something more like best practices etc?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>Bill</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Apr 13, 2009, at 1:20 AM, Ian Peter wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"> <div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="062421623-12042009">Let me know what you think of IGC endorsement of a proposal along these lines, or any suggested changes. I appreciate this is a particular interest of mine and a way away from the normal business of IGC, but would be happy to see IGC involved if people feel that way.</span></font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div> <div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">Title Towards a zero carbon Internet<o:p></o:p></b></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><o:p> </o:p></b></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">Concise description<o:p></o:p></b></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><o:p> </o:p></b></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; ">This workshop is to specifically explore the<span class="062421623-12042009"> steps</span> which can be taken by Internet users, but specifically by large private sector and governmental users, to substantially reduce greenhouse gas emissions associated with current internet usage patterns and architectures. </div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; ">Much investigation in this area has been undertaken and there are some fine private sector examples we can look at. There are also known actions which can be easily adopted which will be outlined during the workshop.</div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; ">Please note that this workshop should not be combined with workshops looking at measurement of IT greenhouse gas emissions to meet carbon trading scheme requirements. Important as those measures are, they result in an entirely different discussion involving a differ<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">ent set of stakeholders. This workshop is about what can be done immediately and work going on in the field at this time.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><o:p> </o:p></b></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><o:p> </o:p></b></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">Relates to theme – <o:p></o:p></b></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><o:p> </o:p></b></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; ">Critical Internet Resources</div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><o:p> </o:p></b></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><o:p> </o:p></b></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><span class="cftext"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">If so, who would you approach as co-organizers ? If not, who do you think should organize it?<o:p></o:p></b></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><span class="cftext"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><o:p> </o:p></b></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><span class="cftext"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><o:p> </o:p></b></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><span class="cftext">We would seek to have involved represntatives of <span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Google and VMWare, <span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>a representative of the Internet Architecture Board, a representative of CANARIE (<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Canada</st1:place></st1:country-region>) who have a significant program in this area, IISD, APC and others.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div> <div class="Section1"><p class="MsoAutoSig" align="left">Ian Peter</p><p class="MsoAutoSig">PO Box 429</p><p class="MsoAutoSig">Bangalow NSW 2479</p><p class="MsoAutoSig">Australia</p><p class="MsoAutoSig">Tel (+614) 1966 7772 or (+612) 6687 0773</p><p class="MsoAutoSig"><a href="http://www.ianpeter.com">www.ianpeter.com</a></p><div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoAutoSig"><o:p> </o:p></p></div> <div> </div></div> ____________________________________________________________<br>You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<br> <a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a><br>To be removed from the list, send any message to:<br> <a href="mailto:governance-unsubscribe@lists.cpsr.org">governance-unsubscribe@lists.cpsr.org</a><br><br>For all list information and functions, see:<br> <a href="http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance">http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance</a><br></blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">***********************************************************</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">William J. 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