<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Ian,<div><br></div><div>Sorry to be slow to notice this, busy...</div><div><br><div><div>On Apr 13, 2009, at 12:51 AM, Ian Peter wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"> <div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><o:p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3"><span class="125284122-12042009">Folks, workshop proposals need to be submited in a week. This particular subject attracte</span><span class="125284122-12042009">d a lot of support, so I am attempting below a first draft of a workshop proposal.</span></font></font></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><o:p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3"><span class="125284122-12042009"></span></font></font></o:p> </div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><o:p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3"><span class="125284122-12042009">Given our time constraints, can I suggest that rather than debate the subject below, you suggest alternative wording and changes to the proposal. We seem to have broad agreement that we should mount a workshop in this area, but some difficulty in wording a proposal appropiately.</span></font></font></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><o:p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3"><span class="125284122-12042009"></span></font></font></o:p> </div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><o:p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3"><span class="125284122-12042009">I am suggesting an organising committee for this workshop of Bill Drake, Wolfgang Kleinwachter, and Bertrand de la Chapelle (without asking them)</span></font></font></o:p></div></font></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Inasmuch as all three of us are leaving for Lisbon and the WTPF in a couple days and Wolfgang and Bertrand are probably as swamped as I am, we might want to broaden the pool of people involved in drafting, consulting with the list, and doing the submission mechanics.<br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><font face="Arial" size="2"><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><o:p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3"><span class="125284122-12042009"></span></font></font></o:p> </div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><o:p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3"><span class="125284122-12042009">We need a final draft this week.</span></font></font></o:p></div></font></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Then we need more discussion and clarification pronto.</div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><font face="Arial" size="2"><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><o:p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3"><span class="125284122-12042009"></span></font></font></o:p> </div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><o:p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3"><span class="125284122-12042009"><strong>Title</strong></span></font></font></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><o:p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3"><span class="125284122-12042009"></span></font></font></o:p> </div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><o:p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3"><span class="125284122-12042009">Global Internet Governance – multistakeholder involvement of government, civil society and the private sector</span></font></font></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><o:p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3"><span class="125284122-12042009"></span></font></font></o:p> </div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman">Concise description<o:p></o:p></font></font></b></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt"><o:p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"> </font></o:p></p><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; ">The working definition of Internet Governance in Article 34 of TAIS is <font face="Arial"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">the development and application by governments, the private sector and civil society, <span style="mso-bidi-font-weight: bold">in their respective roles</span>, of shared principles, norms, rules, decision-making procedures, and programmes that shape the evolution and use of the Internet.</span></font></div></font></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Per previous I wouldn't want to start from this 'respective roles' junk language. </div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><font face="Arial" size="2"><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt">The WSIS documents have explicitly supported the multistakeholder model in Internet Governance. However, how this would function in agenda-setting, regime drafting, formal adoption/validation, implementation and enforcement is <span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>clear.</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt"><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3"><font face="Arial" size="2">If the IGF and ICANN are laboratories for the new multi-stakeholder governance as we believe they are, this discussion is a central contribution to a better understanding of how it can work. How can multistakeholder involvement evolve to provide appropriate governance structures that work effectivelt for all stakeholder groups?</font></font></font></p></font></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Sorry to be dim, but I'm sort of unclear which conversation people really want to see happen. If I recall correctly this started out as a proposal about the role of governments in unnamed domains of IG, then morphed into the roles of all stakeholders in said domains, then morphed into how to organize multistakeholder processes generally, which sort of has a rather familiar, been there done that flavor to it at first taste....What exactly needs to be talked about that hasn't been?</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><font face="Arial" size="2"><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman">Relates to theme – <o:p></o:p></font></font></b></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Critical Internet Resources</font></div></font></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Surely it's broader than this. If it's not, and what people really have in mind is something about ICANN, maybe we should stop speaking in code.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>Bill</div><div><br></div><div> </div><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">***********************************************************</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">William J. Drake </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Senior Associate</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Centre for International Governance</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Graduate Institute of International and</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> Development Studies</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Geneva, Switzerland</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch">william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">New book: <i>Governing Global Electronic Networks,</i></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="http://tinyurl.com/5mh9jj">http://tinyurl.com/5mh9jj</a></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">***********************************************************</div></div></div></div></div></div></span></span></div></span> </div><br></div></body></html>