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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=890172305-13042009><FONT size=2><FONT
face=Arial>Parminder, my problems with the way you have phrased this is
below.</FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=890172305-13042009><FONT face=Arial
size=2>The wording "Participative political governance by all people of the
world, who are all implicated" will, I think, lead to an argument that the
appropriate participative structures for all people are governments, and
sovereign states are the basic building blocks for people's participation in
internet governance (and so the rest of you can go home!) Unless we
have strong arguments - which we do - that other players such as private sector
and CS need to be represented separately because of the nature of their
structures and their avenues for richer levels of
participation.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=890172305-13042009><FONT face=Arial size=2>I
dont think we are far apart here but we do need some appropriate wording. How
about</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=625262603-13042009><FONT face=Arial
size=2>One thing however is clear by now; the Internet is not just a technical
artifact, requiring technical governance with regard to keeping it running
smoothly, </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=625262603-13042009>but a key socio-political phenomenon<SPAN
class=890172305-13042009>. This</SPAN> requir<SPAN
class=890172305-13042009>es</SPAN> participative political <SPAN
class=890172305-13042009>involvement of</SPAN> all people<SPAN
class=890172305-13042009>, </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN class=625262603-13042009>in<SPAN
class=890172305-13042009>cluding</SPAN> civil society, private sector and
governmental actors in multistakeholder governance
structures</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV></SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=MsoAutoSig align=left>Ian Peter</P>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Parminder
[mailto:parminder@itforchange.net] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 13 April 2009
14:14<BR><B>To:</B> governance@lists.cpsr.org; Ian Peter<BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [Fwd: [governance] Workshop proposal - Internationalisation of
IG<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV><BR><BR>Ian Peter wrote:
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=625262603-13042009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks Parminder - one small suggested
change</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=625262603-13042009>>One thing however
is clear by now; the Internet is not just a technical artifact, requiring
technical governance with regard to keeping it running smoothly,
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=625262603-13042009>> but a key
socio-political phenomenon requiring participative political governance [by
all people of the world, who are all implicated]</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=625262603-13042009>Can I suggest
replacing the bracketed words with " involving civil society, private
sector and governmental actors in multistakeholder governance
structures</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=625262603-13042009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>How does that sit?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN
class=625262603-13042009></SPAN><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>Ian, <BR><BR>Frankly, I
believe that the basic political purpose is to get equal political
representation of all people and all sections of people, of the world.
Multistakeholderism is *only a means*, to the extent it does achieve the
purpose, of ensuring that such participation is in fact achieved. I have great
issues in mentioning multistakeholderism *instead of* participation of all
people. Such a stance underlies a new political ideology that is taking strong
roots in the world, which in my view is essentially anti-democratic. I have no
problem with *also* mentioning multistakeholderism along with political
participation of people of the world. <BR><BR>regards<BR><BR>Parminder
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Parminder [<A
class=moz-txt-link-freetext
href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">mailto:parminder@itforchange.net</A>]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> 13 April 2009 13:07<BR><B>To:</B> '<A
class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</A>'<BR><B>Subject:</B>
[Fwd: [governance] Workshop proposal - Internationalisation of
IG<BR></FONT><BR></DIV><BR>This is an attempted draft for the proposed
internationalisation workshop. <BR>
<P class=MsoNormal><B>Title</B><O:P></O:P></P><U1:P></U1:P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><U1:P><BR>Democratic internationalization of
Internet Governance - The way forward from where we stand today
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!supportLineBreakNewLine]--><BR><!--[endif]--></U1:P></B><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B>Concise description (up to 200
words)<O:P></O:P></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><O:P></O:P><BR></B>As the Internet becomes a key
factor of reorganizing our social structures, and doing so at a global
level as never before, democratic global governance of the Internet is a
pressing imperative. Its present governance structures grew out of certain
historical contexts, as well as of some new socio-political realities
around the Internet. In the context of rapid changes that the Internet has
wrought, the key and emerging issues related to its governance, and the
correspondingly legitimate governance arrangements, could not have been
anticipated by anyone. One thing however is clear by now; the Internet is
not just a technical artifact, requiring technical governance with regard
to keeping it running smoothly, but a key socio-political phenomenon
requiring participative political governance by all people of the world,
who are all implicated.<SPAN> </SPAN>However, the direction we move
in from here depends on where we stand. It is important to analyze the
needs of evolution and internationalization of IG from these dual
standpoints. <O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><O:P></O:P><BR>The workshop will seek to discuss some
real institutional possibilities of what to do next, possibly presenting
and analyzing alternative models, along with the advantages and
disadvantages of each.<SPAN> </SPAN><B><SPAN>
</SPAN><O:P></O:P></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><O:P></O:P><BR>Relates to theme –<U1:P>
</U1:P></B>IG, CIRs<O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><U1:P></U1:P></B><BR><SPAN class=cftext><B>Who would
you approach as co-organizers ? Or who do you think should organize
it?</B></SPAN><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><O:P></O:P><BR>It is best that this workshop is
organized by civil society actors. IG Caucus will like to organize this
workshop, along with some<SPAN> </SPAN>civil society organizations
form the North and South that have shown interest. </P>
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