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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dear Divina, hi all</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>For our French understandig list members
:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Divina wrote : </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"</FONT> <FONT face=Verdana size=2>A lot of
groups and entities are trying to see how the 30 articles apply or can be
adapted to internet and other online media, in an ethical perspective. I can
refer you to the charter by APC on the civil society side, a model in its genre,
but also to UN regional meetings, in Santo Domingo or in
Strasbourg."</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm pleased to inform you that the book entitled
Ethique de "la societe de l'information" (Ethics in an "Information society") is
available now (see below). In its first part it reports in French on the 2007
Colloquium held in Strasbourg by the CERIME (Centre d'Etudes et de recherches
interdisciplinaires sur les medias en Europe) and dealing with this topic.
The second part is a researchers' analysis and point of view of the UNESCO
Regional European Meeting that was also held in Strasbourg, in September 2007
and which Divina refferred to. It concludes on the necessity of
"giving a new dynamic to the process" and of including some missing issues
of highest importance such as Ethics in the International and UN bodies
and Ethics and </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>Financing for
Development.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Best greetings</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Lean-Louis Fullsack</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Here are the references :</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ethique de la "societe de
l'information"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sous la direction de Jean-Louis Fullsack et Michel
Mathien</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Preface d'Alain Modoux</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Editions Bruylant, Bruxelles
(40€)</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<A title=divina.meigs@orange.fr href="mailto:divina.meigs@orange.fr">Divina
MEIGS</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=lisa@global-partners.co.uk
href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org,">Lisa Horner
governance@lists.cpsr.org,</A> ; <A title=governance@lists.cpsr.org
href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 29, 2009 11:18
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [governance] RE: On the
process of proposing workshop themes</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><BR>Hi all<BR><BR>Thank you Lisa and others for
picking the thread of a human-rights based internet. When I reset the theme on
the table, I meant it the way you understood it, Lisa, which is to say in
relation to the Universal Declaration. <BR><BR>A lot of groups and entities
are trying to see how the 30 articles apply or can be adapted to internet and
other online media, in an ethical perspective. I can refer you to the charter
by APC on the civil society side, a model in its genre, but also to UN
regional meetings, in Santo Domingo or in Strasbourg. Work is being currently
done at the programme Information For All (IFAP) at Unesco along these lines
... I am personnally doing research on how young people perceive and apply (or
not) these rights... The important thing is that the discussion should be a
multi-stakeholder one, even when considering the perspective of governments
... And IGF is one of the interesting plateforms for this open, and if need
be, contradictory debate, it seems to me. <BR><BR><B>So I would strongly
support a major proposal from researchers and civil society, for the theme of
a human-rights based governance of internet, so as to fit the IGF agenda</B>.
The nicety of the debates, the clarifications that are being discussed
on this list and others would then be aired more widely and everybody would
benefit from such an open discussion. In the current context of crisis, this
could be a unique opportunity for dealing with ethics, social justice
and a people-centered future for the internet. I deeply sense the clock
of the IGF ticking away...<BR><BR><BR>Best<BR>Divina
Frau-Meigs<BR> <BR><BR><BR>Le 29/03/09 3:37, « Lisa
Horner » <lisa@global-partners.co.uk> a
écrit :<BR><BR></SPAN></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><FONT face=Arial>Hi
Sivasubramanian and all<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>I realise a
fairly long thread grew on this before I had a chance to reply, but thought
I should answer your question about what I meant...<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>Mary's
clarification on different legal definitions of rights was very useful, and
I should have made clear that I was talking about human rights as defined in
the Universal Declaration, rather than a state's sovereign rights. I'm
currently working (with others) to explore whether talking about values and
policy principles is a useful way forwards in trying to develop the ethical
dimensions of internet governance. There seems to be agreement amongst
many people in this field that we don't need to develop new human rights
specifically for the internet; rather, the rights defined in the UDHR need
to be applied to this new and continually evolving environment.
<BR></FONT><FONT face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT
face=Arial>So, we're interested in looking at whether different stakeholders
can agree on certain values that they think should underpin internet
governance and use, such as open access to information and
culture/participatory governance/accessibility. These values are
rooted in the existing human rights framework. If a number of stakeholders
can agree that certain values are important, what exact issues need to be
addressed to realise those values? What policy principles can help to
do this, both general and specific? In other words, how can we
practically move on from talking about human rights on the internet to
actually upholding them, based on multi-stakeholder collaboration? I
think the GNI is an important initiative in this respect, and we're looking
at ways of developing this kind of approach.<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>So - in answer
to your question - we're not thinking in terms of enacting new laws, but
rather about developing new approaches to the issues, rooted in the overall
mission of expanding human rights. Some government stakeholders might
argue they have a moral right to filter the internet, but others might
believe in core values of openness. I saw that you proposed a workshop
or discussion on values for the internet on this list - I suspect we're
thinking along similar lines!<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>I think an
important first step forwards is to understand what different people
understand by the terms "rights" and "principles", as the debate in this
thread has illustrated! Max Senges and I are currently looking into
this through a research project. I hope the event on rights and
principles in Rome this summer will also help move the discussion and work
on, along with other work being done under the umbrella of the "internet
rights and principles" dynamic coalition.<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>All the
best,<BR>Lisa<BR></FONT><FONT face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR><BR>
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</FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy [<A
href="mailto:isolatedn@gmail.com]">mailto:isolatedn@gmail.com]</A><BR><B>Sent:</B>
Wed 25/03/2009 18:12<BR><B>To:</B> governance@lists.cpsr.org; Lisa
Horner<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [governance] RE: On the process of proposing
workshop themes<BR></FONT><FONT face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR>Hello
Lisa Horner,<BR> <BR>Perhaps the workshop could address aspects related
to the Rights of Governments, apart from focussing on the Rights of the
Users? Governments of the world might want to argue that they have a
right to demand certain content removed - You Tube has faced such rights
based requests in the recent past and now.<BR> <BR>Governments would
like to argue that they have a moral right to filter, and to censor
inappropriate content ????<BR> <BR>What is this "rights-based values
and principles for internet governance" any way? Define rights, principles
and then enact laws according to the agreed values and principles
???<BR><BR>Sivasubramanian Muthusamy<BR>India.<BR><BR><BR>On Wed, Mar 25,
2009 at 6:58 PM, Lisa Horner <lisa@global-partners.co.uk>
wrote:<BR></FONT></SPAN>
<BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><FONT face=Arial>Hi Divina and
all<BR></FONT><FONT face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT
face=Arial>Just a quick note to say that I intend to submit a workshop
proposal on "rights and the internet" issues, focussing on the approach of
building discussion and agreement around rights-based values and
principles for internet governance. I'm doing some work on this this
year in association with other groups, and the workshop would be a way of
feeding back on progress and continuing the debate from last year's
'mainstreaming rights' workshop. Thoughts/comments/collaboration
welcome!<BR></FONT><FONT face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT
face=Arial>Thanks,<BR>Lisa Horner<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR>
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</FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> Divina MEIGS [<A
href="mailto:divina.meigs@orange.fr]">mailto:divina.meigs@orange.fr]</A><BR><B>Sent:</B>
Wed 25/03/2009 08:46<BR><B>To:</B> governance@lists.cpsr.org;
mueller@syr.edu<BR><B>Cc:</B> Muehlberg, Annette;
pimienta@funredes.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [governance] RE: On the
process of proposing workshop themes<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR><BR>Dear all<BR><BR>I agree very much
on Milton’s rationale for putting up themes (as stated below) because they
seem essential even though one is not in the best position to organize
them.<BR><BR>I’ll suggest three, picking up on my memory from past
exchanges, and because they haven’t
re-emerged:<BR> 1) the
future of <B>labour </B>in internet governance. That’s a theme that hasn’t
emerged and yet it is central to policy-making, not to mention to labour
itself. There are different scenarii around cognitive capitalism,
individual entrepreneurship, labor value vs. knowledge value... And it is
especially timely with the current crisis... But i am not an economist and
i am not a trade
unionist....<BR><BR> 2) the
internet <B>rights</B> or a human rights based internet issue... That
remains undecided and in spite of much discussion it seems to have
disappeared...<BR><BR> 3)
media and information l<B>iteracy</B>/education in the information society
is one close to my heart. It is urgent to propose and develop global
policies on the theme, in connection with intellectual property rights,
but also open educational ressources on line, the future of universities,
sustainable development....<BR><BR>Hoping some of you will continue the
thread,...<BR><BR>Divina Frau-Meigs<BR><BR>Le 24/03/09 21:44, « Milton L
Mueller » <mueller@syr.edu> a écrit :<BR><BR></FONT></SPAN>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial">the proposal to call for expressions
of interest on themes rather than full-fledged workshop
proposals at that stage (they will naturally come later). It has
the benefit of sensing the level of interest on various themes
but also allows people who do not intend to organize a workshop
themselves to indicate that they think a specific topic should
be addressed. This is what I did last year by putting an early
placeholder in favor of a workshop on "dimensions of
cybersecurity" while indicating that I did not intend to
organize it myself.
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