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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I like the concept of broadening access to
include, for instance<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>* equitable access to carriage for content
providers (often discussed within the net neutrality debate)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>* access to content without interference (the
censorship debate)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>* access to devices for applications (the
open systems debate, the end to end debate)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Add these to physical access and you have
an interesting set of issues to look at.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Lee W McKnight
[mailto:lmcknigh@syr.edu] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 12 December 2008 06:58<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> governance@lists.cpsr.org; Ian
Peter; governance@lists.cpsr.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [governance] Themes
for the coming IGFs</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>I like 'Open and Universal Internet Access'as theme.<br>
<br>
Yeah I know you're all tired of word access but maybe I mean something
different.<br>
<br>
Theme can be interpreted as about Internet rights, development, markets, policy
and/or technology.<br>
<br>
Lee<br>
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From: Ian Peter [<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com">mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>]<br>
Sent: Thu 12/11/2008 2:22 PM<br>
To: governance@lists.cpsr.org<br>
Subject: RE: [governance] Themes for the coming IGFs<br>
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In addition to the rights theme, or perhaps in association with it, I would<br>
like to see a new theme of Public Policy and the Internet.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Internet Governance bodies do not all handle public policy consistently or<br>
in some cases at all. I think there is a lot we can gain by examining this<br>
in more detail.<br>
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Ian Peter<br>
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Tel (+614) 1966 7772 or (+612) 6687 0773<br>
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www.ianpeter.com<br>
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From: Max Senges [<a href="mailto:maxsenges@gmail.com">mailto:maxsenges@gmail.com</a>]<br>
Sent: 12 December 2008 03:02<br>
To: governance@lists.cpsr.org; Meryem Marzouki; Parminder<br>
Subject: Re: [governance] Themes for the coming IGFs<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Hello<br>
<br>
I also want to thank Janette to start the discussion about next years<br>
themes. Naturally the focus of the Internet Rights and Principles [1]<br>
coalition is to promote a "Rights based approach to Internet
Governance" as<br>
main theme.<br>
<br>
We plan to have a mid-term meeting in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Rome</st1:place></st1:City>
which we can use to coordinate<br>
and prepare events with a Rights and Principles focus.<br>
<br>
If you are interested in pushing a "Rights based approach to Internet<br>
Governance" as main IGF theme 2009 please join our discussion on<br>
<a href="http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/bill-of-rights">http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/bill-of-rights</a><br>
<br>
best<br>
max<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
[1] we have the name change from Internet Bill of Rights on our agenda for<br>
next weeks monthly meeting.<br>
<br>
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Meryem Marzouki <marzouki@ras.eu.org><br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've thought that, for 60 years and one day<br>
now, there is no question on whether one buys or not into a right approach.<br>
The only remaining question, in any new context - like, here, IG - being<br>
how.<br>
<br>
Le 11 déc. 08 à 15:56, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Jeanette Hofmann</st1:PersonName>
a écrit :<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Meryem Marzouki wrote:<br>
<br>
Le 11 déc. 08 à 12:55, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Jeanette Hofmann</st1:PersonName>
a écrit :<br>
<br>
<br>
Ralf Bendrath wrote:<br>
<br>
As I<br>
said there, I am a bit sceptical if it's a good idea to put human rights<br>
up for discussion, but this probably depends on the framing. "Translating<br>
and implementing human rights for IG" would go in the right direction.<br>
<br>
<br>
Yes, one could also frame it a bit broader such as 'the role of rights in<br>
IG'. That would make certainly a good main session. I spoke against the<br>
'rights based approach to IG' as an overall theme at the caucus meeting but<br>
I would support this topic for a main session.<br>
<br>
I don't see what "the role of rights in IG" (or in anything else)
could<br>
mean.<br>
<br>
<br>
I meant to frame it in a way that integrates people who have concerns with a<br>
rights based approach. "Towards" suggests that all participants buy
into<br>
this approach.<br>
jeanette<br>
<br>
Let's frame it differently, e.g. "Towards an IG framework<br>
<br>
compliant with human rights and democratic principles" or something with<br>
similar meaning. This, BTW, would allow to keep the issue of access on the<br>
table, although framed<br>
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