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<DIV>Yes ultimately it comes down to Public Policy . This need to be given stronger billing and a greater role for the CS in this respect</DIV>
<DIV>Shaila Rao Mistry<BR> </DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Ian Peter <A href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</A><BR></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Max Senges [mailto:maxsenges@gmail.com] <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 12 December 2008 03:02<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> governance@lists.cpsr.org; Meryem Marzouki; Parminder<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [governance] Themes for the coming IGFs</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hello <BR><BR>I also want to thank Janette to start the discussion about next years themes. Naturally the focus of the Internet Rights and Principles [1] coalition is to promote a "Rights based approach to Internet Governance" as main theme.<BR><BR>We plan to have a mid-term meeting in Rome which we can use to coordinate and prepare events with a Rights and Principles focus.<BR><BR>If you are interested in pushing a "Rights based approach to Internet Governance" as main IGF theme 2009 please join our discussion on <A href="http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/bill-of-rights" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/bill-of-rights</A><BR><BR>best<BR>max<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>[1] we have the name change from Internet Bill of Rights on our agenda for next weeks monthly meeting.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Meryem Marzouki <<A href="mailto:marzouki@ras.eu.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:marzouki@ras.eu.org">marzouki@ras.eu.org</A>> wrote:</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've thought that, for 60 years and one day now, there is no question on whether one buys or not into a right approach. The only remaining question, in any new context - like, here, IG - being how.<BR><BR>Le 11 déc. 08 à 15:56, Jeanette Hofmann a écrit :</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR>Meryem Marzouki wrote:</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Le 11 déc. 08 à 12:55, Jeanette Hofmann a écrit :</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR>Ralf Bendrath wrote:</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> As I<BR>said there, I am a bit sceptical if it's a good idea to put human rights<BR>up for discussion, but this probably depends on the framing. "Translating<BR>and implementing human rights for IG" would go in the right direction.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR>Yes, one could also frame it a bit broader such as 'the role of rights in IG'. That would make certainly a good main session. I spoke against the 'rights based approach to IG' as an overall theme at the caucus meeting but I would support this topic for a main session.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I don't see what "the role of rights in IG" (or in anything else) could mean.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR>I meant to frame it in a way that integrates people who have concerns with a rights based approach. "Towards" suggests that all participants buy into this approach.<BR>jeanette<BR><BR>Let's frame it differently, e.g. "Towards an IG framework</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">compliant with human rights and democratic principles" or something with similar meaning. This, BTW, would allow to keep the issue of access on the table, although framed differently.____________________________________________________________<BR>You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<BR> <A href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</A><BR>To be removed from the list, send any message to:<BR> <A href="mailto:governance-unsubscribe@lists.cpsr.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:governance-unsubscribe@lists.cpsr.org">governance-unsubscribe@lists.cpsr.org</A><BR>For all list information and functions, see:<BR> <A href="http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance" target=_blank
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