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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bonjour Parminder, Bill and all</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'd just complete my earlier message (see below) on
a future ITU reform and CS inclusion. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>One of the main themes to be addressed among those
mentioned in my previous message, is how far Internet issues can be
discussed in the specialized ITU bodies such as ITU-T, ITU-R and even ITU-D.
When questioning that, we should keep in mind the broad spectrum of IC
technology, architecture and network issues that are sussessfully dealt with in
the standardisation area. Therefore debating/evaluating about the Internet
stuff that could be valuably integrated in the ITU WGs and standardization
process could proove adequate. In effect, a part of these issues is aleady dealt
with by the ITU (e.g. VoIP, NGN, e-apllications, ...). Of course adding
such a work into the ITU activities needs additive resources, especially in
financing. This is another issue that governments should tackle with more
consistency than up to now at the Administrative Council, and especially during
its next Plenipotenntiary conference (2010).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I know that a lot of our people are rather
reluctant on such a move -a leap for some- from current bodies (mainly IETF, but
also other ones such as ICANN) to a multilateral UN agency. But Internet has
grown to a broad, global "net of nets", and become for most of CS
organizations a "global public good". This deserves that at least its
"essential/critical resources" should/could be transferred to the ITU. How
and at which extend this could take place is still open for discussion.
Especially under the IGF auspices. But, for the sake of this to be
discussed objectively, I'd quote the IGC Statement II of its February
Meeting in Geneva :</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>" In any case, the variety sought should be more in
terms of different points of views, rather than just different stakeholders,
because it is possible to gather a panel of different stakeholders with a narrow
range of views on a particular subject".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>And my proposal above is actually a very
"particular subject" !</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jean-Louis Fullsack</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=jlfullsack@wanadoo.fr href="mailto:jlfullsack@wanadoo.fr">jlfullsack</A>
</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=governance@lists.cpsr.org
href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</A> ; <A
title=william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch
href="mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch">William Drake</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:45 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [governance] IGF, Hyderabad</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt">Dear all</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Let me express my divine surprise after having
read all these messages on the ITU and its long overdue reform.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Moreover, I hear from these messages that for
some of the mailers this interest goes back to the WSIS. And what’s more some of
our prominent fellows even were in discussion with some ITU high ranking staff
upon the matter ! <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Thus, why am I not that enthusiastic about this
new approach of CS on this old issue ? Simply because when I expressed my
concerns about ITU, both on its neoliberal drifts and on its CS exclusion
policy, in our plenaries at the very beginning of WSIS, either I was told that
this is’nt on the agenda, or my opinion and concerns were simply ignored.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">That's why I presented all the statements on
the ITU urgent need of reform (note : reform and not<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>a cosmetic revamping!) during the
different meetings –including intergouvernemental ones and plenaries- on behalf
of my organisation and with the support of some working groups (financing,
African diaspora, etc…). You can still read all these statements on our website
<A href="http://www.csdptt.org/"><FONT color=#800080>www.csdptt.org</FONT></A>,
in French of course, but a few are also in English. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">This being said, I try to believe in this new
interest on the ITU by the CS community and, first of all, I’d thank
Parminder for having included me in the “initial group”: at least it will
respect a minimum of “cultural/language diversity” (one of our hypes at WSIS and
still very topical).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">However, for me the question isn’t only to be
“inside” but “for what to say/to do”?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">As I mentioned<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>above, there are –besides CS inclusion-
a lot of issues at the ITU, and some are very serious. They encompass policy,
finance, strategy, but also new matters to be dealt with such as ICT/Tlc
equipment design taking in account power consumption, renewable energy sources
for feeding equipment, network nodes and terminals or premises, a holistic
approach in network architecture design, cross-sectoral synergy and
fertilisation, etc ...<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">It also should be mentioned here that Europe
(both the Council of Europe and the European Union) intend to set up a “European
FGI” and are willing to address issues such as ITU governance and the
achievements obtained (if there are …) and to be obtained in the different
Action lines. This was discussed during the EuroDig meeting at Strasbourg a
month ago, and both Bill and myself agreed to push in this direction. Needless
to say that my priorities are here. Nevertheless, this doesn’t exclude my
participation to the WG Parminder suggested..<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Finally I’d (perhaps) surprise all of you if I
tell you that I found Toure’s speech not bad at all ! Perhaps should it be
completed by some additional remarks on the responsibilities of the ITU, i.a. in
the so-called telecom development, and recall the ITU top officials that the
Maitland Report was published in1984. Twenty four years later we are still
waiting on the “missing link” for bridging the “digital divide” … And not to be
forgotten : ten years after an aggressive neoliberal policy, mostly driven by
the ITU, well seconded by the WB!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Sorry for my long message and thanks for your
interest for having a better and more open ITU, for the sake of DCs
particularly. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Best regards<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Jean-Louis Fullsack
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch
href="mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch">William Drake</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=parminder@itforchange.net
href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">Parminder</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=governance@lists.cpsr.org
href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">Governance</A> ; <A
title=jlfullsack@wanadoo.fr href="mailto:jlfullsack@wanadoo.fr">jlfullsack</A>
; <A title=fouadbajwa@gmail.com href="mailto:fouadbajwa@gmail.com">Fouad
Bajwa</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 20, 2008 3:05
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [governance] IGF,
Hyderabad</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Hi,
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Thanks Parminder for the suggestion. It's not obvious to me whether
it would be better to start with a small wg (which might be efficient but also
could continue the local ghettoization of the issues) or try booting up some
caucus-wide engagement (which would rapidly become needed anyway---the WTPF is
in the Spring, will have strong governmental engagement, and hence ought to be
of at least as much of a priority as an IGF conference). It would also
be good to check in with friendly staff and Members to get a clearer sense of
where the ITU's review process is and how best to interface with it.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>My suggestion would be that we put this high on the agenda of the caucus
meeting in Hyderabad and think through our approach there. In the
meanwhile I'll be back in Geneva next week and will see if I can fill in the
background a bit more. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Best,</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Bill</DIV>
<DIV><BR>
<DIV>
<DIV>On Nov 19, 2008, at 12:39 PM, Parminder wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV
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face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Bill and
Jean-Louis,<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV
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face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">We have been seeing
some degree of concern over the lack of CS engagement with the increasing
role that ITU plays in IG and in shaping the future of the Internet. Of
course some of us have been expressing this concern for much
longer.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I remember that
when I heard a passionate intervention of Bill’s during a CS meeting
convened by APC in September on the sidelines of the MAG consultations, it
set me thinking even more about how to get IGC to engage with the
ITU.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Later there were
some more emails on the issue of IP trace-backs work being done by the ITU –
and I remember one by Fouad – seeking a IGC/ CS stand on the
issue.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I propose that we
shape for more active engagement with ITU, and for this we set up an IGF
standing working group on ITU engagement, or whatever. This group can feed
into IGC issues of greatest current importance, and those which are soon
forthcoming, apart from suggesting a longer horizon engagement, and also
perhaps their views on it, and such. Giving some clear shape to our possible
engagements with the ITU is also important in view of the forthcoming ITU’s
“World Telecommunications<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><I><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic">Policy Forum”</SPAN></I><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>early next year, which seems to be
poised to get into some very significant issues. The same group could look
into issue of structuring CS engagement with the ITU. Wont be bad if we try
to propose some such structure on behalf of IGC as an entity, and see their
response.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I propose that
Bill, Jean-Louis and Fouad be the initial members of this group, and whoever
else wants to can opt-in. Since among these three, Bill has had the longest
engagement with this group, I suggest he convenes the group on IGC’s behalf.
Others may give their comments. Thanks.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>William Drake [<A
href="mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch">mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch</A>]<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Wednesday, November 19, 2008 6:40
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>jlfullsack<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</A><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Re: [governance] IGF,
Hyderabad</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hi <SPAN
class=apple-style-span>Jean-Louis,</SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Sorry, I don't recall your comments at Eurodig,
maybe I was emailing or something at the time. But I agree with you that the
ITU/CS interface, or rather the lack thereof, urgently needs attention,
especially since there is at least nominally a review underway in ITU and
it'd be good to be useful to the friendly governments that asked for it.
I've raised the matter a number of times on gov list over the years,
suggested interested people collaborate, but never managed to stir much
interest in this or the ITU more generally. If Toure's rather
provocative speech in Cairo has changed the landscape and people are now
concerned about what governments, telcos et al are up to in ITU, great.
I'd of course be happy to talk to you about this stuff, but I don't
think the two of us alone can do anything that would matter to ITU, the only
thing that might resonate is a collective
engagement.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Best,</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Bill</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On Nov 18, 2008,
at 10:12 PM, jlfullsack wrote:<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi
Bill</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I beg
your pardon for butting in with a personel reminding
:</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">During
the the Eurodig session at Strasbourg you mentioned some concerns about the
ITU, especially in the field of CS friendliness or inclusion. During
the following discussion I expressed my readiness to join you for
looking more closely on different issues regarding CS participation in its
working and other hot issues concerning this UN agency, as to draw up
some recommendations for the future EURDIC ou whichever MS discussion on IG
or general international institutions' governance. Would you be so kind
for answering if you agree on this personal proposal. It's possible for me
to stay a couple of days in the Geneva
area.</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">All the
best</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
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face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jean-Louis
Fullsack</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
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face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Have a
look to our website<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
href="http://www.csdptt.org">www.csdptt.org</A> where you'll find an
article (in french) entitled 'L'UIT : la vieille dame des
télécommunications' which best reflects my own experience with, and opinion
about, the ITU </SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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Original Message -----<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(228,228,228); -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial"><B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
title=william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
href="mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch">William
Drake</A><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
title=governance@lists.cpsr.org
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">Governance</A><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Tuesday, November 18, 2008 2:28
AM<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
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face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Re: [governance] IGF,
Hyderabad<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hi,<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The 2nd sounds
right, we should meet as early as possible in the week, but after GigaNet
would be problematic.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Best,<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">BD<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On Nov 9,
2008, at 4:08 PM, Parminder wrote:<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><U1:SMARTTAGTYPE
name="City"
namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><U1:SMARTTAGTYPE
name="PersonName"
namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><U1:SMARTTAGTYPE
name="place" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
downloadurl="http://www.5iantlavalamp.com/"><U1:SMARTTAGTYPE
name="country-region"
namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
downloadurl="http://www.5iantlavalamp.com/"><U1:SMARTTAGTYPE
name="address" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
downloadurl="http://www.5iamas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><U1:SMARTTAGTYPE
name="Street" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
downloadurl="http://www.5iantlavalampft-com:office:smarttags">There is a
giganet business meeting on 1<SUP>st</SUP><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>evening 17 to 1830
hours.<U1:P></U1:P></U1:SMARTTAGTYPE></U1:SMARTTAGTYPE></U1:SMARTTAGTYPE></U1:SMARTTAGTYPE></U1:SMARTTAGTYPE></U1:SMARTTAGTYPE></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></DIV>
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face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><U1:P></U1:P>Can
we then agree to meet on 2<SUP>nd</SUP><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>– 1730 to 1930. Know it is
a bit late but there isn’t any other opportunity IGC gets to meet, other
than at IGFs.<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></DIV><FONT
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