Hello Parminder,<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Parminder <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">parminder@itforchange.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Bill and Jean-Louis,</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">I propose that we shape for more active
engagement with ITU, and for this we set up an IGF standing working group on
ITU engagement, or whatever. </span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">I propose that Bill, Jean-Louis and Fouad
be the initial members of this group, and whoever else wants to can opt-in.
Since among these three, Bill has had the longest engagement with this group, I
suggest he convenes the group on IGC's behalf. Others may give their comments.
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<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Parminder</span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Hello Parminder,<br><br>Please include me in this IGF standing working group on ITU to enable me to bring in some 'balancing' view points.<br>
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<p><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> William Drake
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November 19, 2008
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> <a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [governance] IGF,
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Hi <span>Jean-Louis,</span></span></font></p>
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<p><span><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Sorry, I don't recall
your comments at Eurodig, maybe I was emailing or something at the time. But I
agree with you that the ITU/CS interface, or rather the lack thereof, urgently
needs attention, especially since there is at least nominally a review underway
in ITU and it'd be good to be useful to the friendly governments that asked for
it. I've raised the matter a number of times on gov list over the years,
suggested interested people collaborate, but never managed to stir much
interest in this or the ITU more generally. If Toure's rather provocative
speech in Cairo has changed the landscape and people are now concerned about
what governments, telcos et al are up to in ITU, great. I'd of course be
happy to talk to you about this stuff, but I don't think the two of us alone
can do anything that would matter to ITU, the only thing that might resonate is
a collective engagement.</span></font></span></p>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">On Nov 18, 2008, at 10:12 PM, jlfullsack wrote:</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">I beg your pardon for butting in with a personel reminding :</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">During the the Eurodig session at Strasbourg you mentioned
some concerns about the ITU, especially in the field of CS friendliness or
inclusion. During the following discussion I expressed my readiness to
join you for looking more closely on different issues regarding CS
participation in its working and other hot issues concerning this UN
agency, as to draw up some recommendations for the future EURDIC ou whichever
MS discussion on IG or general international institutions' governance. Would
you be so kind for answering if you agree on this personal proposal. It's
possible for me to stay a couple of days in the Geneva area.</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">All the best</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Have a look to our website <a href="http://www.csdptt.org" target="_blank">www.csdptt.org</a> where
you'll find an article (in french) entitled 'L'UIT : la vieille dame des
télécommunications' which best reflects my own experience with, and opinion
about, the ITU </span></font></p>
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<p><b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;">To:</span></font></b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> <a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org" title="governance@lists.cpsr.org" target="_blank">Governance</a>
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<p><b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></font></b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> Tuesday, November
18, 2008 2:28 AM</span></font></p>
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<p><b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></font></b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> Re: [governance]
IGF, Hyderabad</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Hi, </span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The 2nd sounds right, we should meet as early as possible in the week,
but after GigaNet would be problematic.</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">On Nov 9, 2008, at 4:08 PM, Parminder wrote:</span></font></p>
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<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">There is a giganet business meeting on 1<sup>st</sup> evening
17 to 1830 hours.</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Can we then agree to meet on 2<sup>nd</sup> –
1730 to 1930. Know it is a bit late but there isn't any other
opportunity IGC gets to meet, other than at IGFs. </span></font></p>
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<p><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> Ian Peter [<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" target="_blank">mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>]
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, November 09, 2008
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: [governance] IGF,
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<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Either date works for me – early evening to
allow those who want to take a meal together afterwards would probably suit
best.</span></font></p>
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Peter</span></font></p>
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<p><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> Parminder [<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" target="_blank">mailto:parminder@itforchange.net</a>] <br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> 09 November 2008 17:26<br>
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<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Ian</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">After posting a report on IGC at the IGF, the
customary IGC meeting at IGF was the next thing I was going to suggest. How
does the evening of 1<sup>st</sup> (eve of IGF) or 2<sup>nd</sup> (day 1 of the
IGF) sound to all those who will be attending.</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">I also was not seeking a statement from the IGC on the
way IGF should evolve, only seeking to orient the group towards starting to
engage with this issue. We have a workshop on this issue at the IGF, and IGF
review process kind of starts from IGF, Hyderabad,
onwards.</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">I agree with what you say, Ian, on starting the
election process.</span></font></p>
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