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Hi <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; ">Jean-Louis,</span><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px;">Sorry, I don't recall your comments at Eurodig, maybe I was emailing or something at the time. But I agree with you that the ITU/CS interface, or rather the lack thereof, urgently needs attention, especially since there is at least nominally a review underway in ITU and it'd be good to be useful to the friendly governments that asked for it. I've raised the matter a number of times on gov list over the years, suggested interested people collaborate, but never managed to stir much interest in this or the ITU more generally. If Toure's rather provocative speech in Cairo has changed the landscape and people are now concerned about what governments, telcos et al are up to in ITU, great. I'd of course be happy to talk to you about this stuff, but I don't think the two of us alone can do anything that would matter to ITU, the only thing that might resonate is a collective engagement.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px;">Best,</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px;">Bill</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px;"><br></span></font><div><div>On Nov 18, 2008, at 10:12 PM, jlfullsack wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Hi Bill</font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">I beg your pardon for butting in with a personel reminding :</font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">During the the Eurodig session at Strasbourg you mentioned some concerns about the ITU, especially in the field of CS friendliness or inclusion. During the following discussion I expressed my readiness to join you for looking more closely on different issues regarding CS participation in its working and other hot issues concerning this UN agency, as to draw up some recommendations for the future EURDIC ou whichever MS discussion on IG or general international institutions' governance. Would you be so kind for answering if you agree on this personal proposal. It's possible for me to stay a couple of days in the Geneva area.</font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">All the best</font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Jean-Louis Fullsack</font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Have a look to our website <a href="http://www.csdptt.org">www.csdptt.org</a> where you'll find an article (in french) entitled 'L'UIT : la vieille dame des télécommunications' which best reflects my own experience with, and opinion about, the ITU </font></div> <blockquote style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div> <div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a title="william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch" href="mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch">William Drake</a> </div> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="governance@lists.cpsr.org" href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">Governance</a> </div> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 18, 2008 2:28 AM</div> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [governance] IGF, Hyderabad</div> <div><br></div>Hi, <div><br></div> <div>The 2nd sounds right, we should meet as early as possible in the week, but after GigaNet would be problematic.</div> <div><br></div> <div>Best,</div> <div><br></div> <div>BD</div> <div><br></div> <div><br> <div> <div>On Nov 9, 2008, at 4:08 PM, Parminder wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <blockquote type="cite"><o:smarttagtype name="City" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><o:smarttagtype name="PersonName" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><o:smarttagtype name="place" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" downloadurl="http://www.5iantlavalamp.com/"><o:smarttagtype name="country-region" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" downloadurl="http://www.5iantlavalamp.com/"><o:smarttagtype name="address" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" downloadurl="http://www.5iamas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><o:smarttagtype name="Street" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" downloadurl="http://www.5iantlavalampft-com:office:smarttags"><!--[if !mso]> <STYLE>st1\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#ieooui) } </STYLE> <![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext="edit"> <o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--> <div class="Section1"><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">There is a giganet business meeting on 1<sup>st</sup> evening 17 to 1830 hours.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Can we then agree to meet on 2<sup>nd</sup> – 1730 to 1930. Know it is a bit late but there isn’t any other opportunity IGC gets to meet, other than at IGFs. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <div style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: blue 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align="center"><font face="Times New Roman" color="black" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext"> <hr tabindex="-1" align="center" width="100%" size="2"> </span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Ian Peter [<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com">mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>] <br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, November 09, 2008 12:03 PM<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a><br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</span></b> RE: [governance] IGF, Hyderabad</span></font><font color="black"><span style="COLOR: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" color="black" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Either date works for me – early evening to allow those who want to take a meal together afterwards would probably suit best.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; 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COLOR: navy">Australia</span></font></st1:place></st1:country-region><font color="navy"><span style="COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoAutoSig"><font face="Times New Roman" color="navy" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Tel (+614) 1966 7772 or (+612) 6687 0773<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoAutoSig"><font face="Times New Roman" color="navy" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">www.ianpeter.com<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoAutoSig"><font face="Times New Roman" color="navy" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <div style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: blue 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align="center"><font face="Times New Roman" color="black" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext"> <hr tabindex="-1" align="center" width="100%" size="2"> </span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Parminder [<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">mailto:parminder@itforchange.net</a>] <br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b> 09 November 2008 17:26<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span></b> 'Ian Peter'; <st1:personname w:st="on"><a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a></st1:personname><br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</span></b> [governance] IGF, <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Hyderabad</st1:place></st1:city></span></font><font color="black"><span style="COLOR: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" color="black" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ian<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">After posting a report on IGC at the IGF, the customary IGC meeting at IGF was the next thing I was going to suggest. How does the evening of 1<sup>st</sup> (eve of IGF) or 2<sup>nd</sup> (day 1 of the IGF) sound to all those who will be attending.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I also was not seeking a statement from the IGC on the way IGF should evolve, only seeking to orient the group towards starting to engage with this issue. We have a workshop on this issue at the IGF, and IGF review process kind of starts from IGF, <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Hyderabad</st1:place></st1:city>, onwards.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I agree with what you say, Ian, on starting the election process.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Parminder <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div></div></div></o:smarttagtype></o:smarttagtype></o:smarttagtype></o:smarttagtype></o:smarttagtype></o:smarttagtype></blockquote></div></div><div> <br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><hr><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div>____________________________________________________________<br>You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<br> <a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a><br>To be removed from the list, send any message to:<br> <a href="mailto:governance-unsubscribe@lists.cpsr.org">governance-unsubscribe@lists.cpsr.org</a><br><br>For all list information and functions, see:<br> <a href="http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance">http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">***********************************************************</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">William J. 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