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<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;background:white;font-style:italic'>>>I
was telling to many people from developing countries who were fighting for
Internet governance: "Before you get the governance, get the Internet
first." </span></font></i><font size=2><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'>>Yes, that allows various
interests to give shape to the internet in a manner that is most advantageous
for commerce and government. After that any >process of debate on Governance
wouldn't be able to reverse the practices established<span style='background:
white'>. </span></span></font><font size=2><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Sivasubramanian,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> You make an important point. The above
assertion about focusing on getting the Internet before seeking a role in IG,
which seems to have some obvious force in its utter simplicity, has been much
abused in the IG space.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Many already entrenched in important positions
vis a vis IG have made this assertion often. I don’t know whether you followed
the clamor early last year when CIRs were sought to be discussed in the IGF, how
so many voices suddenly begun to claim that the IGF should be looking mostly at
the issue of spreading Internet access, and that the really disadvantaged
people weren’t really bothered with such IG issues at all. Such patronizing
and patently anti-democratic statements bothered some of us a lot.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>On the other hand, while admittedly the
situation regarding access to the Internet is really dismal in so many parts of
the world, what is unfortunate is that many people who seek to represent the
interests of disadvantaged groups themselves fall into the simplistic trap of
valorizing access and capacity building over IG. This represents the ‘basic
needs versus governance stakes and rights’ dilemma much discussed in development
literature. Both are important and as you say, if the disadvantaged groups do
not stake their rightful claim to IG now, soon it will be too late, and they
will be condemned to live with an Internet, and an information society, whose architecture
is already cast by the dominant market and statist interests.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Parminder <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Sivasubramanian
Muthusamy [mailto:isolatedn@gmail.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, November 09, 2008
1:42 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> governance@lists.cpsr.org;
Parminder<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b>
wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Gov 586] Re:ITU and
ICANN - a loveless forced marriage Re: [governance] ITU & ICANN in Cairo</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial'>Hello Wolfgang Kleinwaehter and All,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial'>Here are my comments on the Speech at
the ICANN Meeting in Cairo, 6 November 2008 by Hamadoun Toure, Secretary
General of the ITU. When I read what I wrote, I am surprised that some of these
comments sound intense. Part of what is written might not even be fair, but I
am posting it as written. Please take this sufficiently factored down, because
I was not there at Cairo to "feel" his speech. The comments are based
on my impressions from the speech transcript. It is based on the superficial
knowledge that the ITU places the interests of the Telecom companies and the
Governments paramount. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial'>Also, I have picked up portions of
the Secretary General's speech for comments. In this critique, what is missing
are positive remarks that are due. It is positive as a gesture on the part of
the ITU Secretary General to have extended an arm to work with ICANN and to
pronounce a desire to be committed to the mutli-stakeholder approach. But in
this message I have chosen to read between the lines of the Secretary General's
transcript, just to raise some points for discussion.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial'>Comments:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></font><i><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;
font-family:Arial;font-style:italic'>since 1865, since the creation of the
telegraph. And we are very proud of the way the organization has been able to
adapt itself over the years and decades and centuries, from telegraph to
telephone to teletypewriters, to radio and television. We are talking about
digital broadcasting now. And very soon, 3D television. We are talking about
the emergence of new technologies.</span></font></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>ITU adopts itself to
own all inter-human communication in any form.</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;background:white;font-style:italic'>I
was telling to many people from developing countries who were fighting for
Internet governance: "Before you get the governance, get the Internet
first." </span></font></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Yes, that allows
various interests to give shape to the internet in a manner that is most
advantageous for commerce and government. After that any process of debate on
Governance wouldn't be able to reverse the practices established<span
style='background:white'>. </span></span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><i><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;background:white;font-style:italic'>ICANN
is just ten years old but it's done a great job. </span></font></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Yes, ITU is older.
We notice that the ITU has governed Communications around the world for over
143 years.</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;background:white;font-style:italic'>we
had a very successful WSIS. For the first time, a UN body was organizing a
summit, where you didn't have demonstrations outside. </span></font></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Business and
Government kept the Civil Society locked out in several international
conventions that were either in the Governments' Diplomatic Territory or
Business' Commercial Territory. The Internet is Civil Sphere and the
Governments were the latecomers. What ought to have been said here is that the
Civil Society included Government and Business and not vice versa. </span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-style:italic'><br>
</span></font></i><i><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;
font-family:Arial;background:white;font-style:italic'>Every time a Web browser
establishes a secure connection to a server, ITU's work on PKIs, public key
infrastructures, and encryption keys, is used. Our pioneering work on
electronic authentication enabled jurisdictions around the world to recognize
e-mail as legal documents and to give legal studies to electronic signatures. </span></font></i><font
size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial'><br>
</span></font><br>
<b><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;
font-weight:bold'>I can't help notice that most of the work that the ITU has
done relates to "authentication", "security" etc. to enable
"jurisdiction". Isn't the ITU working on making the Internet what it
is not?</span></font></b><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;
font-family:Arial'><br>
<i><span style='font-style:italic'><br>
<span style='background:white'>We [ITU and ICANN] just have to learn to know
each other better so that we can like each other and work together. And the
main reason why I'm here is that is my motto: "</span></span></i></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>This sounds
dangerous. The DOC-supervised ICANN and the inter-governmental ITU aligned
together !</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:Arial'><br>
<i><span style='background:white;font-style:italic'>IGF is just going around
and around, avoiding the topics, and becomes sometimes a waste of time. </span></i></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>I agree. I fully
agree. One reason is the limitation of the UN mandate to the IGF. IGF does not
even have recommendary 'powers' and the IGF process is in a sense a huge
distraction away from the policy changes and new Internet legislations that get
enacted in bits and pieces (leading to an untold comprehensive whole) in
different parts of the world - for e.g. the move by UK to direct ISPs to retain
traffic records for two years. IGF requires a complete re-redesign.</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><font size=1 color="#4c1130" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#4C1130;background:white;
font-style:italic'>Next year, ITU will</span></font></i><i><font size=1
color="#ff9900" face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;
color:#FF9900;background:white;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i><i><font
size=1 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;background:white;font-style:italic'>organize the World Policy
Forum, which addresses a number of Internet-related public-policy issues,
ranging from cybersecurity and data protection to multilingualism and the
ongoing development of Internet.</span></font></i><i><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;background:white;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold'>World
Policy Forum? For the ITU to psychologically claim its stake as the ICT
super-authority?</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><font size=1
color="#4c1130" face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;
color:#4C1130;background:white;font-style:italic'>I </span></font></i><i><font
size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;background:
white;font-style:italic'>hope you will not tell me here, "Don't talk about
Internet." .... we need to talk about it. And you shouldn't see us
as an enemy. I always said that I have enough on my plate in ITU and there is
no need to add more. </span></font></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>I don't get the
feeling that ITU is content with its sphere of influence.</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;background:white;font-style:italic'>If
you want an Internet connection for a business or a house, they will ask you
first if you have a telephone line. </span></font></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Why do I need an ITU
regulated and monitored phone line to qualify for Internet Access? Why isn't
the Community doing enough to bring in alternate technologies?</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'><br>
</span></font><i><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;
font-family:Arial;font-style:italic'>During the debates of the WSIS, when
people were talking about Internet governance, I was telling them, "Get
Internet first before you talk about getting the governance of it." I was
giving simple example, comparing Internet and telecommunications to trucks or
cars and highways. It's not because you own the highways that you're going to
own all the trucks or cars running on them, and certainly not the goods that
they are transporting, or vice versa. It's a simple analogy. </span></font></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Great. The road
analogy isn't all that perfect as an analogy for the Internet. I will let it go
to say that those who owns the roads get to decide who rides and who doesn't
and gets to decide what to charge as toll fee. </span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;
font-family:Arial;font-style:italic'><br>
.... the relationship between the Internet and the telecommunication world...
And they are condemned to work together. It's a condemned marriage. So better
enjoy it. If you know that you're not going to get divorced in any case because
you're condemned to live together, you better find a way to enjoy each other,
and have kids in the process.</span></font></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>The Internet CAN
technically divorce the telecoms or even scale up to include telecoms services
as part of the internet. It is a condemned marriage alright, but if one partner
is too difficult and drives the other to the wall, a divorce isn't technically
infeasible.</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;font-style:italic'>It has been alleged
in some corners of the ITU that ITU wishes to govern the Internet. And I have
specifically said that I categorically deny that. </span></font></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>When someone in
government or someone connected to government "denies" something, it
is always true. </span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial'>And I say today again to you, it is
not the case. My intention as Secretary-General of ITU is not to govern the
Internet. But we need to work together, because there are developing countries
that are in need of access. At the end of this year, we'll have four billion
mobile telephones in the world. While we try to bridge the gap in telephony, we
have to ensure that no new gap is created in Internet and no new gap is created
in broadband for us to help other sectors to meet the Millennium Development
Goals. Therefore, there is a need for these two societies to work together.
Almost half of the people in this room are very active participants in the ITU.
And, therefore, I think there is room for us to know each other and to
understand.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial'>ITU's role as a multilateral forum
for debate is to serve as a source of impartial expert information and
guidance, just as we have done for nearly 145 years. We strive to help all
parties work together to clarify the issues and build consensus on the most
effective ways of promoting the evolution and uptake of this powerful resource.
And we have that capability. We are proud of that culture. It's the only
organization where you will have countries that are at war on other fronts, are
supporting each other with common resolutions, without the people supporting
those resolutions being fired. I'm proud to say that we are the only
organization where you have Iran supporting "his friends", I quote,
of the United States, or vice versa and the people who have supported that are
still alive. It happens on a daily basis. We never had any Palestinian-Israeli
crisis inside the ITU. They share spectrums. So we are in a position to work
with everyone, because we have a technical approach to issues. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Impressive. But
aren't you bidding to take over the internet by saying all this ?</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:Arial;font-style:italic'><br>
ITU is also actively encouraging the industry-wide move to IPv6. Again, looking
on the Web all of last week, I've seen numerous attacks on the ITU for having pronounced
the world IPv6.This is a concern for all of us. Every mobile phone will have an
IP address, every fridge, every car, it's an inevitable thing. </span></font></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>What concerns me is
the fact that IPV6 seems to have obviated (or made impossible) Network Address
Translation. This means that everything that I ever say on the Internet is
linked to my unique, unchangeable IPV6 address. My computer has an unchanging,
permanent IPV6 address. My refrigerator and my MP4 player will have a traceable
IPV6 address. Where is my privacy? Perhaps I will be able to borrow my
refrigerator's IPV6 address to send an email to my top secret girl friend and
in case my wife gets hold of that message I could blame it on the refrigerator?
(this comment in particular without in-depth knowledge of the technical
architecture of IPV6) </span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial'>In 2005, WSIS mandated ITU to take a
lead role in building confidence and security in the use of ICTs. I put in
place a high-level expert group last year to study the issue and report to the
council, with the final report this year. We are gaining a momentum as we move
steadily towards agreements on an international set of principles and
best-practice approaches that countries around the world can follow to promote
cybersecurity.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;
font-family:Arial'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Security concerns are center stage on the ITU
agenda, pushing the need to build (user) Confidence out of view. What has ITU
done on the privacy front, to protest against legislations such as directives
by UK to ISPs to retain email logs for two years or directives by governments
to facilitate recording of mobile phone conversations? </span></b></span></font>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;font-style:italic'>Estonian network
was down for two days. .. And during the uprising between Georgia and Russia,
we have noticed a large number of botnets or cyber attacks between the two
countries. That is scary. ...</span></font></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Thank you for
drawing attention to the fact that it is sometimes Governments that cause or
engineer some of the major cyber incidents?</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;font-style:italic'>Our children, who
spend most of their time in cyberspace, are not taught the basic behaviours in
the cyberspace. When they go out in the street, we tell them, "Be careful.
Don't talk to strangers, don't accept candy from someone you don't know. It
could be a drug that could kill you." But they're out there in cyberspace
without telling them what to do or how to behave. </span></font></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Yes, we will make
them paranoid.</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;
font-family:Arial;font-style:italic'><br>
The potential of the Internet to accelerate social and economic development in
the world's poorest regions is perhaps its greatest asset. I hope you will
support ITU in our ongoing effort to see that everyone everywhere has a chance
to benefit from that potential for the betterment of our planet, and for
humankind, for all humankind.</span></font></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sounds rhetorical.</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;font-style:italic'>We will never
counter terrorism if we don't have a harmonized way of tracing back the IP
address. .</span></font></i><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
7.5pt;font-family:Arial'>..</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>How would I trust
the Law and Order agencies to restrict use of these technologies only against
terrorists and criminals and not against the unsuspecting citizens ?</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;
font-family:Arial;font-style:italic'>ZAHID JAMIL, DNS Resolution Center
Pakistan:</span></font></i> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial'>I am a lawyer from Pakistan. Your
Excellency, I heard you talk about the important role that ITU can play in
everything from IPv6, the coordination of the IP-based networks, cybersecurity,
privacy, data protection, cybersecurity, cyberterrorism, multilingualism, IDNs,
a whole bunch of things. My only question is, to what extent do you think ITU
would have any restrictions, because it seems it would probably become the
regulator in convergence of everything. So is there a limitation you can see as
far as the ITU's scope?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Touche</span></font></b><font
size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial'>'</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;font-style:italic'>WOLFGANG
KLEINWÄCHTER, University of Aarhus</span></font></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial'>what is the future of civil society
in the ITU? ITU has nearly 200 member states and more than 700 private sector
members. When civil society becomes an equal partner in this setting?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Is it really
possible to believe that the Civil Society would be represented at the ITU so
broadly as to balance the 191 member srates and 700 private sector companies?
ITU is ITU. It could come to the IGF to represent business and government. If
Civil Society focuses its effort on getting better represented at the ITU, some
day the IGF could become a part of the ITU.</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;font-style:italic'>HAMMADOUN TOURE,
Secretary General of the ITU</span></font></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;font-style:italic'>Government is in an
advisory role. Advisory role! You advise me and I am free to take your advice? </span></font></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold'>Advice
from Government always comes with the subtle posture of "It is just
an advice or a suggestion, but remember where it comes from"</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;font-style:italic'>During the WSIS
process, we had a problem that some member states have genuinely raised. We
have countries like China. During a PrepCom in Japan we spent three days out of
four not working because there were some so-called civil society, NGO that were
government officials from Taiwan. The Chinese delegation came with their photos
and information on them from the Web that they are government officials, and
they registered as NGOs. It's a problem.</span></font></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Thank you for
bringing that up. This is really an issue about how the Civil Society is
constituted at least in parts. We need to clean up a little bit.</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-style:italic'>HAMMADOUN
TOURE, Secretary General of the ITU</span></font></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;font-style:italic'>Now, let's be clear.
Government cannot get into individual people's privacy. </span></font></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=1 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Please, don't. </span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
</span></font><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:
Arial'>...... <i><span style='font-style:italic'> I'm telling you my
intention is not, from ITU, to try and take over Internet. </span></i><br>
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>When someone in government or someone from an
inter-governmental organization talks of an absence of an intention, there is
always an intention. <br>
<br>
Sivasubramanian Muthusamy</span></b></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Parminder <<a
href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" target="_blank">parminder@itforchange.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>>Interested in analysis of how we can avoid this. Certainly
some parties wish to avoid meaningful discussion, and are we diplomatically
sweeping under the carpet >all the important issues (lest anyone take
offence?)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Ian, you point to an important issue, and danger.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Some of us have been arguing for long that the IGF is civil
society's best bet in many ways. It is a new-age organization that is
relatively representative of people and groups across the world, and still has
been able to maintain some distance from strong statist control on the one side
and corporate control on the other. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>However, many others in the civil society, including within
the IGC, have been over-cautious in putting our weight behind strengthening the
IGF in all ways that we can – whether the issue has been of some
substantive (and not merely advisorial) capacity of the core IGF group
(currently named MAG) or doing substantive inter-sessional work and giving some
kind of real, if non-binding, outputs on key IG issues. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>I think that we as a group may need to revisit our positions
on this issue, or al least discuss them to see if new directions need to be
taken in view of current and emergent realities. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>It is a fact that the IGF may be in real trouble, and in the
danger of being sidelined as an annual conference that no one of any real
importance takes any note of. We must review what would it mean in terms of
civil society and progressive interests. In light of such a review we may need
to have clearer common positions of how we want to engage with the IGF, and how
we want to see it evolve. Such a review is an even more urgent imperative in
view of the forthcoming process of IGF review which will start in earnest
immediately after the IGF, Hyderabad. What gets said and discussed at Hyderabad
may have some important implications for this review.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Parminder </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
href="mailto:gov-bounces@wsis-gov.org" target="_blank">gov-bounces@wsis-gov.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:gov-bounces@wsis-gov.org" target="_blank">gov-bounces@wsis-gov.org</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ian Peter<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, November 09, 2008
11:02 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a>;
'Dr. Francis MUGUET'<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> 'WSIS Civil Soc. WG on
Information Networks Governance'<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> [Gov 586] Re:ITU
and ICANN - a loveless forced marriage Re: [governance] ITU & ICANN in
Cairo</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>The telling statement from ITU being "I am personally of the
opinion that the IGF is continuously going round in circles and avoiding issues
– it is becoming more and more a waste of time."</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>Interested in analysis of how we can avoid this. Certainly some
parties wish to avoid meaningful discussion, and are we diplomatically sweeping
under the carpet all the important issues (lest anyone take offence?)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>My fear here is that the outcomes if IGF doesn't succeed in
addressing the real issues are worse than those if it does succeed.
Balkanisation or globalisation? Take your pick….</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:navy'>Ian Peter</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Dr. Francis MUGUET [mailto:<a
href="mailto:muguet@mdpi.net" target="_blank">muguet@mdpi.net</a>] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 09 November 2008 15:44<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a>;
Wolfgang<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> WSIS Civil Soc. WG on
Information Networks Governance<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> ITU and ICANN – a
loveless forced marriage Re: [governance] ITU & ICANN in Cairo</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>Dear Wolfgang<br>
<br>
Interesting to notice a press analysis of Touré's speech, most notably about
the IGF.<br>
<br>
The statement from Touré has not been unnoticed.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><i><font size=1 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-style:italic'>Coming back to what we do with ICANN, we also
participate actively in the work of Internet Governance Forum, which was
established as the result of the multistakeholder deliberations at the WSIS. I
personally believe that the IGF is just going around and around, avoiding the
topics, and becomes sometimes a waste of time. We need to address issues
frankly and try to solve them. And that's why I thought I should be here to
talk to you here, so that we learn to know each other better. Next year, ITU
will organize the World Policy Forum, which addresses a number of
Internet-related public-policy issues, ranging from cybersecurity and data
protection to multilingualism and the ongoing development of Internet. I hope
you will not tell me here, "Don't talk about Internet." It's an issue
for everyone.</span></font></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><br>
<br>
Best Francis<br>
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<a href="http://www.heise-online.co.uk/news/print/111914" target="_blank">http://www.heise-online.co.uk/news/print/111914</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>7 November 2008, 12:30</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<h1><b><font size=6 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
24.0pt;color:black'>ITU and ICANN – a loveless forced marriage</span></font><o:p></o:p></b></h1>
<p><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>ITU Secretary General Hamadoun Touré has called for better
collaboration between the <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>International
Telecommunication Union[1]</span></b> (ITU) and the <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers[2]</span></b>
(ICANN). "Our members have unnecessarily attacked and criticised each
other and I think we should put an end to that," said Touré on Thursday at
the 33rd ICANN meeting in Cairo. According to Touré, the two organisations need
to get to know each other better and learn to love each other, as
telecommunications and the internet are ultimately condemned to a "forced
marriage".</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>Despite the outstretched hand, the ITU Secretary General did not
spare the criticism in his first appearance at an ICANN meeting. Touré made it
clear to the assembled experts that he saw his organisation as playing the
dominant role in the forced marriage and made his opinion of the other party
clear – provocatively describing ICANN's Governmental Advisory Committee
as purely cosmetic.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>The depth of the chasm between the two – the UN
organisation, which has its roots in the telecommunications world, and the
quasi-internet-regulator ICANN – was stressed by a series of further
statements in the half-hour talk given by the head of the ITU. Touré repeatedly
spoke of the "war" between the two organisations. According to Touré,
who was elected in 2006, "The best way to win a war, is to prevent
it."</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>In the course of his 'marriage proposal', he referred extensively
to the ITU's outstanding role. Key topics for his organisation, he noted,
include the internationalisation of domains, something with which ICANN is
currently engaged, the <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>transition to IPv6[3]</span></b>,
standardisation for the all-IP <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Next
Generation Network[4]</span></b> (NGN), cyber-security, the fight against
online terrorism and child protection online.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>Touré rejected concerns that the ITU was appointing itself as
global regulator of internet resources and processes, "The ITU has clear
boundaries. We do not perform the operative business." However, he
underlined the organisation's demand, set out in its <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>Cybersecurity Agenda[5]</span></b>, to be responsible for a global
framework in the fight against online terrorism and criminality. He also
defended the controversial <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>IP traceback[6]</span></b>
standard proposal. "There is not one country which isn't doing it, it's
just that each country is doing it differently," said Touré.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>Touré also rejected criticism that the ITU operates behind closed
doors. He stated that the organisation has around 700 sector members from the
telecommunications industry and also admits NGOs as members. Touré also praised
the ITU's openness – a nod to the <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>World
Summit on the Information Society[7]</span></b> (WSIS). The summit, organised
under ITU auspices, is, according to Touré, the first UN summit at which civil
society has also been invited to sit at the table, rather than demonstrating
outside.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>In the same breath, Touré expressed strong criticism of the <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>Internet Governance Forum[8]</span></b> (IGF), which
was called into being by the WSIS, "I am personally of the opinion that
the IGF is continuously going round in circles and avoiding issues – it
is becoming more and more a waste of time." Therefore, the ITU is planning
a global forum for internet policy next year as a rival event.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>Touré also fired a further undiplomatic broadside at the work
performed by governments within ICANN. "The Governmental Advisory
Committee is ICANN's weak point," said Touré. His criticism was directed
at the advisory function of the Governmental Advisory Committee (GAC) in
developing rules for the domain name system. "If someone gives me advice,
I am free to take it or leave it." The ICANN's GAC is therefore nothing
more than "cosmetic", noted Touré forthrightly.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>In a short statement following Touré's speech, the Brazilian
government representative on the GAC demanded, in the name of his and the
Argentinian government, the "strengthening of the GAC". Latvian
diplomat Janis Karklins, re-elected as GAC chairman, by contrast noted that the
ITU and ICANN operated according to very different political models, "From
the viewpoint of an international organisation, the ICANN model may appear
weak, because governments are merely advisory, whilst in an international
organisation they run the show." ICANN is, he opined, based on the novel
idea of collaboration between interested parties. He noted that both models
have their advantages and disadvantages, and that governments need to learn to
operate within both models. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>(<i><span style='font-style:italic'>Monika Ermert</span></i>)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>(<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>lghp[9]</span></b>)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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[1] <a href="http://www.itu.int/" target="_blank">http://www.itu.int/</a><br>
[2] <a href="http://www.icann.org" target="_blank">http://www.icann.org</a><br>
[3] <a
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[4] <a
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[5] <a href="http://www.itu.int/osg/csd/cybersecurity/gca/"
target="_blank">http://www.itu.int/osg/csd/cybersecurity/gca/</a><br>
[6] <a
href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10040152-38.html" target="_blank">http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10040152-38.html</a><br>
[7] <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WSIS" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WSIS</a><br>
[8] <a href="http://www.intgovforum.org/" target="_blank">http://www.intgovforum.org/</a><br>
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