Hello William Drake,<br><br>I did not notice that Dr Govind's name and contact info was listed in the public web. Yes, it is more appropriate for any one to contact him directly.<br><br>Sivasubramanian Muthusamy<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:44 PM, William Drake <span dir="ltr"><william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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Hi Sivasubramanian,<div><br></div><div>I don't know if the government monitors this list. But when I wrote to Dr. Govind I described the sorts of problems people were experiencing around the world (reported here and elsewhere) and got the impression that only the MAG list discussion of problems was on the radar. So I'm not sure I'd recommend people bringing their problems to this list in the hope the government will read it and take action. Since he's listed on a public website as being available to help, I'd think it more efficient for anyone having trouble to reach out to him directly. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Bill</div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><div><br><div><div>On Nov 6, 2008, at 3:57 PM, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><br> Hello William Drake,<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:04 PM, William Drake <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch" target="_blank">william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div> Hi,<div><br></div><div>Glad to know that he has publicly offered to help. Markus gave me his details but I didn't know he was open to any and all inquiries. For most people this really shouldn't be necessary, the IGF registration and invite letter on the web is supposed to suffice, but it may be that people from some particular countries or whatever need more targeted assistance.</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br><br>This thread "Visas for India" is likely to be on the watch list of the Government of India as it has acted on the earlier issues raised in this thread. Anyone from any country in need of "more targeted assistance" could perhaps come to this thread and bring it up here for possible immediate attention by the Ministry of Information Technology and the Ministry of External Affairs (VISA issues are universal - every country's visa practices have some imperfection or another, so <br>
a discussion on India VISA issues might not be considered an embarrassment).<br><br>Also, as could be inferred from Parminder's message on what to do if the registration form does not work, Dr Govind would be in a position to pay specific attention to these issues. Such cases that require "more targeted assistance" could also be brought to the notice of Dr Govind at drgovind at nic dot in .<br>
<br>This is just a guess that I am making with not much a direct connection to have authentic information about how it all works.<br><br>Sivasubramanian Muthusamy<br><br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div></div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Bill</div><div><div></div><div><div><br><div><div>On Nov 6, 2008, at 1:09 PM, Parminder wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"> <div><p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">As per MAG discussions and also IGF website FAQs (new addition) if the IGF registration does not work, one has to write to Dr Govind at drgovind[at]<a href="http://nic.in" target="_blank">nic.in</a>. To quote 'you will need to provide your full name, nationality, profession and passport number'.</span></font></p>
<div><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font><br></div><p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Parminder </span></font></p>
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<div> <div style="text-align: center;" align="center"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <hr align="center" size="2" width="100%"> </span></font></div><p><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> karen banks [<a href="mailto:karenb@gn.apc.org" target="_blank">mailto:karenb@gn.apc.org</a>] <br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, November 04, 2008 3:39 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a>; William Drake; <a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a>; Parminder<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [governance] visas for india?</span></font></p> </div><div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font><br></div><p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">hi bill<br>
<br> Who did the letter for you?<br> <br> karen<br> <br> At 19:51 03/11/2008, William Drake wrote:<br> <br> </span></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Hi,<br> <br> I went today and was told all is in order and I can pick up <br>
tomorrow. The interventions from Markus, Shanker/MAG, and folks here <br> seem to have made a difference. However, I was still asked to bring <br> an invite letter from the government, which I had, but shouldn't have <br>
needed. I hope more consulates will read the fax correctly, that <br> registration alone is sufficient.<br> <br> Bill<br> <br> On Nov 3, 2008, at 11:24 AM, Parminder wrote:<br> <br> <br> </span></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><br>
The enclosed Govt of India's fax to all its missions abroad requesting<br> gratis visa to be granted to all registered IGF participants is now <br> posted<br> at <a href="http://igf2008.in/Travel.aspx" target="_blank">http://igf2008.in/Travel.aspx</a>.<br>
<br> Parminder<br> <br> <br> </span></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">-----Original Message-----<br> From: Roland Perry [<a href="mailto:roland@internetpolicyagency.com" target="_blank"> mailto:roland@internetpolicyagency.com</a>]<br>
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 1:02 PM<br> To: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a><br> Subject: Re: [governance] visas for india?<br> <br> In message<br> <<a href="mailto:fecfce260810311534v6c0f2380vef650e448b5014f8@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">fecfce260810311534v6c0f2380vef650e448b5014f8@mail.gmail.com</a>>, at<br>
04:04:48 on Sat, 1 Nov 2008, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy<br> <<a href="mailto:isolatedn@gmail.com" target="_blank">isolatedn@gmail.com</a>> writes<br> <br> </span></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">As a person living in India, I sent a note to the Government of <br>
India<br> to take note of this discussion four days ago and the Ministry of<br> Information Technology was prompt to send a reply to say "I think <br> the<br> Visa issue stands resolved."<br> <br> The Government of India might already have taken steps to ensure <br>
that<br> participants do not have problems with VISAs to visit India to <br> attend<br> the IGF. Perhaps it takes just a little more time for the steps <br> taken<br> by GOI on this issue to take effe</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><br> Thank you for your efforts, and those of the organisers and Indian<br> Government, in this regard. I understand that a copy of the<br> "instructions to Indian Missions Abroad" will be available on the <br>
host<br> country website soon, which will confirm the gratis-Visa arrangements<br> including the status of the registration confirmation as an <br> invitation.<br> --<br> Roland Perry<br> ____________________________________________________________<br>
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