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A noteworthy remark. We have to be careful what we wish for in the name
of 'Right to the Internet' or 'Bill of Internet Right'.<br><br>
Best regards,<br>
Hakik<br><br>
At 11:04 AM 10/12/2008, Michael Gurstein wrote:<br>
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Thanks very much for this Jaco, a very very interesting (and probably
necessary) linkage between a "Right to the Internet" as
Parminder suggests is implied by the German program, and "An
Internet Bill of Rights" (A Bill of Internet Rights?)... especially
necessary in situations where a "Right to the Internet" becomes
a state imposed obligatory use of the Internet... (be careful what you
wish for ;-)</font><br>
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<font size=2 color="#0000FF">MG<br>
<br>
</font><font face="Tahoma" size=2>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b>From:</b> bill-</font><font size=2 color="#0000FF">
</font><font face="Tahoma" size=2>of-rights-bounces@ipjustice.org
[<a href="mailto:bill-of-rights-bounces@ipjustice.org" eudora="autourl">
mailto:bill-of-rights-bounces@ipjustice.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jaco
Aizenman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> October-12-08 2:44 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> governance@lists.cpsr.org; Ian Peter;
bill-of-rights@ipjustice.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Avri Doria<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bill-of-Rights] [governance] germany plans citizen
email<br><br>
</font>I can comment on what *already* happened in Costa Rica, where a
similar program was launched in 2000(*):<br><br>
Most people use not just the Government,
<a href="http://www.costarricense.cr">www.costarricense.cr</a> , but also
Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo or/and the work email.<br><br>
Tracking is a problem, but the problem applies not just for the public
sector providers but also for the private sector providers, which have
even much more pointers (email, searches, social sites, etc).<br><br>
Thatīs why it is perceived locally as a necessity and as a human right
having an Internet Bill of Rights (Law #15890, presented in
2004).<br><br>
(*) It was not just email, but:<br>
-Free access all over the country, including remote areas that
satellite access was used.<br>
-Free website.<br>
-The concept of universalizing virtual personality, including bank
accounts (Good for people in extreme poverty)) and others, which a a few
years later ended in the Congress with the virtual personality
fundamental right, <br><br>
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Ian Peter
<<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>
> wrote:<br>
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<dd>Comments below<br><br>
<dd>> -----Original Message-----<br>
<dd>> From: Avri Doria
[<a href="mailto:avri@psg.com" eudora="autourl">mailto:avri@psg.com</a>
]<br>
<dd>> Sent: 12 October 2008 10:02<br>
<dd>> To: Governance List<br>
<dd>> Subject: Re: [governance] germany plans citizen email<br>
<dd>><br>
<dd>><br>
<dd>> On 11 Oct 2008, at 01:38, Ian Peter wrote:<br><br>
<dd>Not be, I was quoting Johannes Ernst<br>
<dd>><br>
<dd>> > First you create a universal digital identifier for each
citizen<br>
<dd>> > that they have no control over (e.g. they can't have more
than one<br>
<dd>> > for different purposes, change it to something else, run it
on a<br>
<dd>> > different computer, decide not to show their name in it
etc.)<br>
<dd>> ><br>
<dd>><br>
<dd>><br>
<dd>> but would they be required to use t for anything other then
government<br>
<dd>> business? sure if they use it for other stuff then
tracking becomes<br>
<dd>> possible, but if it is just your gov't id used when doing
citizen stuff?<br>
<dd>><br>
<dd>> a.<br>
<dd>><br>
<dd>I don't know, I guess that's the sort of detail that's really needed
to<br>
<dd>evaluate this properly. But national ID schemes with attached data
matching<br>
<dd>capabilities are a privacy issue, and the US social security number
is a<br>
<dd>case in point.<br><br>
<br><br>
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