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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi Jaco<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks for your support for the FoE Project, and congratulations
on the progress that you’ve made in Costa Rica around the ‘virtual
personality’ right. I think in English it’s more commonly referred
to as the right to privacy online/ the right to protect ‘digital identity’?
Yes, I do think that the recent developments in German law are very positive
and important. This process of adapting national legislation and
constitutional protections to the internet age is incredibly important to watch
and for rights activists to be involved in. Germany’s constitutional
court has addressed directly the complications of balancing privacy rights with
notions of the ‘public interest’ (eg security) – I think it would
be great to have someone who was involved in the process on the IGF panel
concerning cyber-security and trust.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Regarding how this relates to the FoE project – in our
framework we would see introducing protections for digital identity and privacy
in national law as a way for governments to uphold the principle concerning
privacy. Privacy is obviously a key principle, with an intimate relationship
to freedom of expression.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Lisa<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Jaco Aizenman
[mailto:skorpio@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 12 August 2008 02:32<br>
<b>To:</b> Lisa Horner<br>
<b>Cc:</b> governance@lists.cpsr.org; bill-of-rights@ipjustice.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bill-of-Rights] Rights in IG research<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Dear Lisa,<br>
<br>
Thank you for the FoE link, which is very impressive and I support. Let
me know if I can help in any way the FoE from Costa Rica.<br>
<br>
Please also note that a new virtual personality fundamental right is
complementary to FoE, and can enhance even more the FoE initiative. Of course
it has to be done in the right way....<br>
<br>
If Constitutional Courts worldwide will have a clear and good virtual
personality fundamental right (Internet rights) it will be much easier to
implement fully the FoE initiative and vice versa.<br>
<br>
Donī t you like or support the first, worldwide, "internet right",
made a few months ago by the German Constitutional Court?.<br>
<br>
Thanks a lot for your time.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Jaco<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 5:31 AM, Lisa Horner <<a
href="mailto:lisa@global-partners.co.uk">lisa@global-partners.co.uk</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Hi Max and all</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Thanks for your interest in
what we're doing. I'm equally interested in your work and in exploring
potentials for collaboration. Maybe we could start a 'research ideas' and
'research in progress' page on the bill of rights wiki?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Apologies in advance for the
length of this email – those who aren't interested can delete email or go
into skim-read mode now!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>The research we're doing is as
part of the ongoing Freedom of Expression Project. I think I've mentioned
before that we're working with 6 key partner organizations in different
countries to develop policy principles that, if adhered to, would shape a
global communications environment that would support human rights and a 'public
interest' communications environment. They address issues spanning
infrastructure, code and content. The latest draft of the principles is
available and open for comment at <a
href="http://www.freedomofexpression.org.uk/resources/public+interest+principles+for+the+networked+communications+environment"
target="_blank">http://www.freedomofexpression.org.uk/resources/public+interest+principles+for+the+networked+communications+environment</a>.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>The principles and values that
they express are purposefully broad so that they can be tailored to specific
contexts. The idea is for them to provide an overarching framework for
policy discussion and advocacy at different scales. For example, our
project partners are currently working to elaborate what they might mean in different
country contexts, and this in turn will provide the foundations for policy
work. A major aim is to identify spaces where different stakeholders can
agree that they share certain values and principles, and work to shape policy
accordingly.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>We have been working to base
all of our work so far in international human rights standards, in particular
freedom of expression, the right to culture and the right to participation in
government. We've taken an expansive definition of freedom of expression
that many (but not all) human rights institutions and lawyers around the world
take. This includes positive dimensions of freedom of expression,
including the notion that governments are responsible for putting the necessary
structures/infrastructures in place for the right to be realized.
Incidentally, that's why I don't believe that we need to be advocating for new
rights such as the right to the internet or to communication. The
sentiments and demands expressed by these 'new' rights are already contained
within the human rights system. In my opinion, our energy should be
focused on further developing and upholding what we have already, for example,
further embedding expansive definitions of freedom of expression in rights and
policy institutions. And, as Anriette and Milton importantly pointed out,
in furthering/developing understanding about what international rights
standards and compliance with them actually means in practice.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>The research that I referred to
before is intended to contribute to this effort, illustrating how an expansive
definition of freedom of expression is being supported in contemporary legal
and philosophical thought and case law, and identifying areas where further
work needs to be done. It is taking our policy principles framework as a
starting point, ensuring that it is firmly rooted in the international human
rights system. In this way, if the framework was used as a basis for
policy discussion, human rights standards would effectively be 'mainstreamed'
within the discussions.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Whilst I'm sure some would make
the argument that these aren't IG issues, we hope that we're making a positive
contribution towards ensuring that the 'shared norms and principles that shape
the use and evolution of the internet' are rooted in human rights
standards. These are the most widely accepted and acknowledged ethical
standards in the world, which (in reference to earlier conversations) is why it
makes sense to us to work with them and build on them, rather than try to
reinvent or disregard them. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I'll leave it there for now,
but I'm interested to hear anybody's thoughts on the work we're doing,
and am keen to explore opportunities to collaborate on further research
on any of these issues.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Many thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Lisa</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'> <a href="mailto:bill-of-rights-bounces@ipjustice.org" target="_blank">bill-of-rights-bounces@ipjustice.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:bill-of-rights-bounces@ipjustice.org" target="_blank">bill-of-rights-bounces@ipjustice.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Max Senges<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 06 August 2008 17:36<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a>;
Anriette Esterhuysen; <a href="mailto:bill-of-rights@ipjustice.org"
target="_blank">bill-of-rights@ipjustice.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Bill-of-Rights] Rights in IG research</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>dear lisa and all<br>
<br>
Lisa wrote:<br>
> We've just commissioned some research into how policy principles based<br>
> around notions such as net neutrality, interoperability, universal<br>
> access and content diversity can be rooted in the international human<br>
> rights system which will hopefully yield some interesting insights...<br>
<br>
that sounds very interesting. Stanford lawschool's Center for Internet and
Society has offered to collaborate by contributing research and i agreed to
frame research opportunities/themes for student projects to be taken up in the
fall. <br>
<br>
It would be great to team up or at least be aware of all the other research
undertaken to better understand a Rights based approach to IG.<br>
<br>
Lisa could you share a bit more info about Global Partners research? <br>
<br>
Everybody else doing research work in this area is very much invited to get in
touch so we can ensure we complement, share and avoid duplication <br>
<br>
best<br>
max<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 5:37 AM, Anriette Esterhuysen <<a
href="mailto:anriette@apc.org" target="_blank">anriette@apc.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Hallo all<br>
<br>
Lisa, you are correct in that the SA Human Rights Commission is the appropriate<br>
institution to deal with this. In fact they deal with hate speech issues quite
often.<br>
<br>
They are under-resourced, but they do do excellent work. Here is their
URL<br>
<a href="http://www.sahrc.org.za/sahrc_cms/publish/cat_index_26.shtml"
target="_blank">http://www.sahrc.org.za/sahrc_cms/publish/cat_index_26.shtml</a><br>
<br>
Draft hate speech legislation has been before parlaiment a few times here in
South<br>
Africa. I am not sure what the status is. If I remember correctly the
draft bill was badly<br>
not well conceived and very controversial.<br>
<br>
I certainly think that making a formal complaint to the HRC (human rights<br>
commission) would the way to start if the intension is to create public
awareness of<br>
the issue.<br>
<br>
It will also drive lots of traffic to the site.... which is less desirable.
Personally, Rui, I<br>
would just ignore it.<br>
<br>
Lisa, I completely agree with you about the relationship between rights and
internet<br>
governance. Sadly I think that we have lost ground since WSIS. As you say
there is a<br>
lot of work to be done to get beyond rights rhetoric and to work out what the<br>
implementable rights-based public policy principles are that we can work with
on<br>
specific issues, e.g. those you mention, for example net-neutrality. APC
tries to adopt<br>
this approach in our access work.<br>
<br>
I also think that the mainstream human rights movement has not engaged this
terrain<br>
enough, altough there are exceptions.<br>
<br>
Anriette<br>
<br>
<br>
Date sent: Wed, 6 Aug 2008
12:09:58 +0100<br>
From: "Lisa
Horner" <<a href="mailto:lisa@global-partners.co.uk" target="_blank">lisa@global-partners.co.uk</a>><br>
To: <<a
href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a>>,<br>
"Rui Correia" <<a
href="mailto:correia.rui@gmail.com" target="_blank">correia.rui@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: RE:
[governance] Taking down a site [was: beijing ticket scam]<br>
Send reply to: <a
href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a>,"Lisa
Horner" <lisa@global-<br>
<a href="http://partners.co.uk" target="_blank">partners.co.uk</a>><br>
<br>
> Echoing Ian, I wonder if it would be worth filing a complaint with the<br>
> South African Human Rights Commission? The SA bill of rights states<br>
> that freedom of expression doesn't extend to "advocacy of hatred that<br>
> is based on race, ethnicity, gender or religion, and that constitutes<br>
> incitement to cause harm." Is this supported by any other legislation<br>
> in SA?<br>
><br>
> So many of our discussions around internet governance issues can be<br>
> approached from a rights perspective, but human rights lawyers and<br>
> institutions are usually absent from the debate. Human rights and<br>
> their associated tools and mechanisms are arguably one of the only<br>
> global governance institutions that is 'thickening' in the current age<br>
> of 'globalisation'. Human rights approaches also have an inbuilt<br>
> framework for balancing out tensions between different rights and<br>
> responsibilities. However, there's still a lot of work to be done in<br>
> bringing them up to date and ensuring that they're capable of dealing<br>
> with new issues, including those relating to freedom of expression and<br>
> the internet. I wonder if engaging directly with national human<br>
> rights institutions is one way of starting that process?<br>
><br>
> In a way, this is linked to Anriette's comment that many new campaigns<br>
> around rights are a-historical. Similarly, I think that they should<br>
> be rooted in, or at least have a firm understanding of, existing human<br>
> rights institutions, both formal and informal and at all scales.<br>
> We've just commissioned some research into how policy principles based<br>
> around notions such as net neutrality, interoperability, universal<br>
> access and content diversity can be rooted in the international human<br>
> rights system which will hopefully yield some interesting insights...<br>
><br>
> Any thoughts?<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Lisa<br>
<br>
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Association for Progressive Communications<br>
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