<div dir="ltr">dear lisa and all<br><br>Lisa wrote:<br>
> We've just commissioned some research into how policy principles based<br>
> around notions such as net neutrality, interoperability, universal<br>
> access and content diversity can be rooted in the international human<br>
> rights system which will hopefully yield some interesting insights...<br><br>that sounds very interesting. Stanford lawschool's Center for Internet and Society has offered to collaborate by contributing research and i agreed to frame research opportunities/themes for student projects to be taken up in the fall. <br>
<br>It would be great to team up or at least be aware of all the other research undertaken to better understand a Rights based approach to IG.<br><br>Lisa could you share a bit more info about Global Partners research? <br>
<br>Everybody else doing research work in this area is very much invited to get in touch so we can ensure we complement, share and avoid duplication <br><br>best<br>max<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 5:37 AM, Anriette Esterhuysen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anriette@apc.org">anriette@apc.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hallo all<br>
<br>
Lisa, you are correct in that the SA Human Rights Commission is the appropriate<br>
institution to deal with this. In fact they deal with hate speech issues quite often.<br>
<br>
They are under-resourced, but they do do excellent work. Here is their URL<br>
<a href="http://www.sahrc.org.za/sahrc_cms/publish/cat_index_26.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.sahrc.org.za/sahrc_cms/publish/cat_index_26.shtml</a><br>
<br>
Draft hate speech legislation has been before parlaiment a few times here in South<br>
Africa. I am not sure what the status is. If I remember correctly the draft bill was badly<br>
not well conceived and very controversial.<br>
<br>
I certainly think that making a formal complaint to the HRC (human rights<br>
commission) would the way to start if the intension is to create public awareness of<br>
the issue.<br>
<br>
It will also drive lots of traffic to the site.... which is less desirable. Personally, Rui, I<br>
would just ignore it.<br>
<br>
Lisa, I completely agree with you about the relationship between rights and internet<br>
governance. Sadly I think that we have lost ground since WSIS. As you say there is a<br>
lot of work to be done to get beyond rights rhetoric and to work out what the<br>
implementable rights-based public policy principles are that we can work with on<br>
specific issues, e.g. those you mention, for example net-neutrality. APC tries to adopt<br>
this approach in our access work.<br>
<br>
I also think that the mainstream human rights movement has not engaged this terrain<br>
enough, altough there are exceptions.<br>
<br>
Anriette<br>
<br>
<br>
Date sent: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 12:09:58 +0100<br>
From: "Lisa Horner" <<a href="mailto:lisa@global-partners.co.uk">lisa@global-partners.co.uk</a>><br>
To: <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a>>,<br>
"Rui Correia" <<a href="mailto:correia.rui@gmail.com">correia.rui@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: RE: [governance] Taking down a site [was: beijing ticket scam]<br>
Send reply to: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a>,"Lisa Horner" <lisa@global-<br>
<a href="http://partners.co.uk" target="_blank">partners.co.uk</a>><br>
<br>
> Echoing Ian, I wonder if it would be worth filing a complaint with the<br>
> South African Human Rights Commission? The SA bill of rights states<br>
> that freedom of expression doesn't extend to "advocacy of hatred that<br>
> is based on race, ethnicity, gender or religion, and that constitutes<br>
> incitement to cause harm." Is this supported by any other legislation<br>
> in SA?<br>
><br>
> So many of our discussions around internet governance issues can be<br>
> approached from a rights perspective, but human rights lawyers and<br>
> institutions are usually absent from the debate. Human rights and<br>
> their associated tools and mechanisms are arguably one of the only<br>
> global governance institutions that is 'thickening' in the current age<br>
> of 'globalisation'. Human rights approaches also have an inbuilt<br>
> framework for balancing out tensions between different rights and<br>
> responsibilities. However, there's still a lot of work to be done in<br>
> bringing them up to date and ensuring that they're capable of dealing<br>
> with new issues, including those relating to freedom of expression and<br>
> the internet. I wonder if engaging directly with national human<br>
> rights institutions is one way of starting that process?<br>
><br>
> In a way, this is linked to Anriette's comment that many new campaigns<br>
> around rights are a-historical. Similarly, I think that they should<br>
> be rooted in, or at least have a firm understanding of, existing human<br>
> rights institutions, both formal and informal and at all scales.<br>
> We've just commissioned some research into how policy principles based<br>
> around notions such as net neutrality, interoperability, universal<br>
> access and content diversity can be rooted in the international human<br>
> rights system which will hopefully yield some interesting insights...<br>
><br>
> Any thoughts?<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Lisa<br>
<br>
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