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<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Nyangkwe Agien said:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>“For the reason of national interests today the
financial<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>flows go mainly to Asian and African countries almost
ignoring poverty,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>civil war and the <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>question
of failing states in <st1:place w:st="on">Latin America</st1:place>. Looking<o:p></o:p></span></b></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><b><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>on the positive aspect: <u>Latin
American governments have to resolve their<o:p></o:p></u></span></font></b></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><b><u><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>problems on their own or with
regional support which is definitely<o:p></o:p></span></font></u></b></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><b><u><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>better than waiting for someone to
fix the problem.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></u></b></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><b><u><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'><o:p><span style='text-decoration:
none'> </span></o:p></span></font></u></b></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Excellent insight into <st1:place w:st="on">Latin
America</st1:place>!! Observing the international IG policy processes, I see
this coming into play as well. Since the problems in <st1:place w:st="on">Africa</st1:place>
are critical, attention is deservingly turned to that area. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>However, unfortunately, we in <st1:place w:st="on">Latin
America</st1:place> are not always managing to solve our problems, nor take
our place in international processes. Sometimes for lack of education, skills
and readiness—including political will—we simply step back and
ignore the problems, until they become emergencies. Somewhat like untrained
teenagers, intelligent and capable, but out on their own a bit too soon. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>I don’t have any solutions or insights—except
to watch <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Brazil</st1:place></st1:country-region>,
which seems to be leading the way. But I appreciated your comment too much to
just let it slip by. Thanks. Anyone else have ideas on this?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Saludos,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Ginger<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><b><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><b><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=ES
style='font-size:10.0pt'>-----Mensaje original-----<br>
De: Nyangkwe Agien Aaron [mailto:nyangkweagien@gmail.com] <br>
Enviado el: Viernes, 20 de Junio de 2008 05:35 a.m.<br>
Para: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">governance@lists.cpsr.org</st1:PersonName>;
Daniel Oppermann<br>
Asunto: Re: [governance] Re: Does Africa Need Help?</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Daniel<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>You hit the nail at th right point.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Aaron<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>On 6/19/08, Daniel Oppermann
<dan.oppermann@gmail.com> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> I understood Stephane's comment in a different
way. To me it seems that<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> he put the finger on the fact that Northern (or
Western or<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> industrialized) countries do not spend money on
development politics<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> just because they are "nice" but
because it serves their own interests.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Development politics started during the Cold War
to make sure who is on<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> your side. For the reason of national interests
today the financial<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> flows go mainly to Asian and African countries
almost ignoring poverty,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> civil war and the question of failing states in <st1:place
w:st="on">Latin America</st1:place>. Looking<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> on the positive aspect: Latin American
governments have to resolve their<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> problems on their own or with regional support
which is definitely<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> better than waiting for someone to fix the
problem.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Here is an interesting paper about the
effectiveness of aid politics:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> http://www.iadb.org/IDBDocs.cfm?docnum=1158725<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> David Goldstein schrieb:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> > Stephane's comment is just like saying all
African governments are<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> incompetent and corrupt. It's partly true, it's
changing, but definitely not<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> always the case.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> ><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> ><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> > ----- Original Message ----<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> > From: Stephane Bortzmeyer
<bortzmeyer@internatif.org><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> > To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">governance@lists.cpsr.org</st1:PersonName>;
Nyangkwe Agien Aaron<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> <nyangkweagien@gmail.com><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> > Sent: Thursday, 19 June, 2008 7:53:05 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> > Subject: [governance] Re: Does Africa Needs
Help?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> ><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> ><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> ><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> > > Some recipient governments grasp
exactly what donors want to hear,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> > > readily agreeing to 'capacity building'
programmes emphasising<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> > > increased accountability. They
dutifully echo the donor's jargon,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> > > while laughing behind our backs, and
flicking through the latest<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> > > Mercedes catalogue for their new
ministerial limousine.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> > ><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> > ><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> ><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> > A long paper to avoid the obvious
conclusion: aid is not intended to<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> > help the local people but to subsidize
northern industries such as<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> > Mercedes (as in the above example) or Cisco
(to take a example closer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText dir=LTR><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> > from our field). That way, most aid will
come back to the North.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>Coach of <st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">ASAFE
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