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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">George Sadowsky</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:george.sadowsky@attglobal.net] <br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Below is the combined list of a set of issues (from previous posts)
that Suresh an I seem to feel would be worthy of discussion, and better yet,
action, by members of the group. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>George: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>All of these issues are “worth discussing”
and acting on as Internet governance issues but not all of them are a good fit for
a global forum. The irony here is that you and one or two others are always
accusing this group of having its head in the clouds. And yet what you propose
below is a far, far more ambitious take on the IGF or IGC agenda than anything
anyone else here has proposed, except perhaps for IGP and APC. If we agree on
that larger view of IG, then great. Welcome to the club, maybe we should be
working more closely together and you should reassess your apparent assumption that
what goes on here is hostile to what you believe in.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Also, McTim and others are always asserting
that the caucus and IGF venues are discussing things when the real action is in
some other venue, such as the RIRs. And yet many of the issues you raise (see
comment below) are national regulatory issues or international trade in
services issues. Still, as the only integrated arena for putting those issues
together, I agree they should be discussed here.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You ask:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Are other members of this group mobilizing action in these directions?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Yes. Many of us already are discussing,
analyzing and working on these topics; e.g., you mention content filtering and
net neutrality and IGP has done both IGF workshops and published papers on
that. (Which Suresh, acting as always out of purely personal spite, dismisses).
You mention privacy and anonymity and the same applies. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So this sudden discovery of the Internet
governance agenda is a bit puzzling. Anyway, of course we and the IGF should be
discussing many of these topics. More specific comments below<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>* Last mile unbundling</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This is important, but it is a domestic
telecommunication policy issue. Please tell me how you think a group focused on
global governance can affect it. People who want highly involved discussions of
those issues can find them in any TPRC conference (<a
href="http://www.tprc.org/">www.tprc.org</a>) or International
Telecommunication Society (ITS) meeting (next one’s in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Montreal</st1:place></st1:City> this month). There are also
nationally focused media reform groups (I know most about ones in the <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region> of course)
that talk about such things. OECD is a big advocate of loop unbundling.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>* Monopoly internet service and its pitfalls<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This is important, too. It has some
connection to global governance because there is a WTO agreement on trade in
basic telecom services which includes Internet services. It calls for more open
and competitive service provision and openness to foreign ownership. Whether
national governments adhere to that treaty, however, depends on them. Among
some participants in civil society, however, there is a hostility to these
things as they are categorized as evil “neoliberalism.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>* Regulators who favor the government owned telco over private players<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ditto the points above. This is a WTO
issue, is it not? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>* Monopoly suppliers of international bandwidth who fleece local ISPs
(how many satellites or cables would the typical LDC have access to)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Are you proposing a new international
price regulation scheme? A new global antitrust enforcement scheme? Using the
WTO? Details, please? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>* Local ISPs who need capacity building to use their existing resources
(And who don't trust each other enough to peer at an exchange point)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=NormalDarkBlue><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Looks like a local issue to me.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>- Appropriate policies for consumer protection for Internet
transactions, both national an international<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Looks like something that would require a
new international treaty. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>- Fair and equitable licensing regimes for ISPs consistent with general
business licensing processes at the national level<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>As you say, a national issue<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>- Regulation that encourages, or better yet, requires cost based
pricing of Internet access<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hmmm, are you at all familiar with the
decades and wrangling over cost-based regulation of telecom facilities? Competition
has always proven to be a better method of reducing costs, and the imposition
of cost-based utility regulation schemes is almost always inimical to and inconsistent
with robust competition and open market entry. Also developing countries have
serious institutional capacity problems when a tiny regulatory agency tries to
set the prices and monitor the costs of a gigantic national telecom monopoly. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>- A level playing field between incumbent telcos and international
Internet gateway providers on the one hand and independent ISPs on the other hand<font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'>. </span></font>Ability of ISPs to form
their own international gateway connections<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Good ideas, all. Again, these are things
that are best pursued via free trade in services arrangements. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>- Issues of filtering content at the national level<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>IGP has proposed a global principle of Net
Neutrality that deals with this question. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>- Permissive policies for anonymous communication<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>- Acceptability of tools (such as encryption tools) for
protecting confidentiality of communication<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Good luck on that, the trend is in
precisely the opposite direction, This by the way is an issue that will impact
more and more on RIRs and addressing policy, because addresses are the way to
track people down. And tell me again where do you stand on the DNS Whois
debate? ;-) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>- Net neutrality with respect to traffic type, e.g. VoIP<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>See above <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>- Strong anti-spam legislation, effective implementation and vigorous
prosecution, including enabling national authorities<font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'> </span></font> through training and facilities the ability
to identify prosecute and convict spammers<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>More generally, attempts to secure the
Internet are attracting a lot of attention here and among civil society groups IGP
research and comment has been moving into those issues for some the past 18
months. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>these are issues that by and large unite civil society, the Internet
community, and the business community.<font color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I favor finding alliances with business
when possible. But this is not true of privacy (see 6 years of Whois debate, or
the attempts by brand owners to violate net neutrality by using ISPs to police
copyright). In general, your agenda overlooks one of the key drivers of global
IG policy and that is the battle over the exclusivity and scope of intellectual
property protection. There will be a fissure between CS and PS as long as
businesses are wiling to sacrifice individual rights for brand protection. But
yes, on issues of open and competitive service provision and free expression
and some privacy issues we should be able to find common ground with business.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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