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<p class=MsoNormal dir=LTR><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Robert Guerra said:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal dir=LTR><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold'>1. I'm curious if an analysis has
been done on the comments posted on this thread to date - specifically the
gender, linguistic diversity and regional breakdown of who is posting, and the
positions being put forward.<br>
<br>
</span></font></b><b><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;font-weight:bold'><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal dir=LTR><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ginger says:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal dir=LTR><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>That would be very
interesting. I don’t know how valuable, or of what use, but it would sure
be interesting. So might a chart showing who knows whom, and what previous
relationships they have had.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal dir=LTR><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal dir=LTR><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Robert Guerra said:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal dir=LTR><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold'>though a select few seem to be
posting far too often, others - seem to quiet. As this seems an important
topic, let's make sure that all members of this list - be encouraged, and given
the chance to comment.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal dir=LTR><b><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;font-weight:bold'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal dir=LTR><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ginger says:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal dir=LTR><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think each person posts
as often as they see fit, by their own criteria, and that there is no “too
often” or “too quiet”. Some of us are, ok, some would say, “lurking”—but
I would say watching and learning. I am observing discussions by people I have
read, seen on panels and agreed or disagreed with. It is interesting to
contrast prepared presentations to these impromptu behind-the-scenes
conversations. But I would say these are discussions that are sometimes challenging
to really understand and digest, much less join. Discussion lists can be a
spectator sport </span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Wingdings><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy'>J</span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> as well as online learning.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal dir=LTR><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal dir=LTR><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Saludos (Greetings, in
Spanish)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal dir=LTR><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ginger<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal dir=LTR><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=ES
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>De:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=ES style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
Robert Guerra [mailto:lists@privaterra.info] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Enviado el:</span></b> Lunes, 02 de Junio de
2008 08:50 a.m.<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Para:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">governance@lists.cpsr.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Asunto:</span></b> Re: [governance] Re:
Nomcom and conflict of interest</span></font><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal dir=LTR style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Having followed this
thread I have a couple of comments:<br>
<br>
1. I'm curious if an analysis has been done on the comments posted on this
thread to date - specifically the gender, linguistic diversity and regional
breakdown of who is posting, and the positions being put forward.<br>
<br>
though a select few seem to be posting far too often, others - seem to quiet.
As this seems an important topic, let's make sure that all members of this list
- be encouraged, and given the chance to comment. <br>
<br>
<br>
2. In my view - RIRs should be included as a full member in our IGC
discussions.<br>
<br>
<br>
During phase II of WSIS as well as post-wsis, i have had the chance to better
appreciate the role and contribution played by Regional Internet Registries (RIR's)
in the IG discussions. Two particularly, i followed closely - that being LACNIC
& ARIN.<br>
<br>
LACNIC's role in engaging a wide set of stakeholders in the latin american
& Carribean region is to be commended. They are a very active stakeholder
in the LAC region, and contribute to the regional (mostly spanish &
portuguese) IG list. From what colleagues in the region tell me - they
are quite respected and seen as a good example of facilitator, one that brings
different stakeholders together.<br>
<br>
Having an actor such is this active and involved in the IGC, in my opinion - is
much needed. In my view, the decision weither or not it should have full
representation on this list (and structures it creates) should be determined
not by those unfamiliar with its work - but instead from CS from the LAC
region. When consulting views from the LAC region - one will find much
support, and this should be taken into consideration by those who seem to post
ad-nausem about this topic.<br>
<br>
In terms of comments about ARIN , I have the upmost respect for them - Ray and
others - as well. The comments I mention about LACNIC, equally apply. But, I
will add some additional comments - that being commending ARIN for their
outreach and engagement at the recent NTEN conference in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">New Orleans</st1:place></st1:City>. Sharing information
about IG and engaging non-profits, and the public at large is a role - all of
us should be be doing - but, few are. ARIN's efforts in this regard is to be
commended.<br>
<br>
As someone from the NA region - who knows their their consultation and PDP are
truly bottom up - would recommend their full member of this caucus.<br>
<br>
Thus - of the two RIR's that I know - seem to have the processes and track
record of effectively engaging the public and CS . Simply ignoring the fact, is
not recognizing the hundreds of voices who speak at their public meetings.<br>
<br>
<br>
RIR's in my view - bring a value, experience and knowledge of their regions to
the IG discussion table. Their consultation processes are open, and in many
ways represent far more "CS" then many on list. To simple ignore
their role or importance - is just wrong. It my opinion, to summarily
dismiss their role, importance and exclude them as a full member of this caucus
- would be a strategic mistake.<br>
<br>
regards<br>
<br>
Robert<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal dir=LTR><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
<<a href="mailto:suresh@hserus.net">suresh@hserus.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal dir=LTR><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Rui Correia [02/06/08 14:19 +0200]:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal dir=LTR><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>20 pages??? writing 20 pages??? you must be judging
others by your own<br>
verbal incontinence. Unless necessary - eg, for academic purposes - I<br>
can say anything I need to say in less than 50 words.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal dir=LTR><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I believe my last email was addressed to Parminder,
not you.<br>
<br>
I've already said what I need to say. If a few people on the list
"fail" to<br>
understand them and keep making the same wrong arguments, I have, perforce,<br>
to repeat myself.<br>
<br>
srs<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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