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<div><font size="4">I hope nothing's crushed - because if I go back through archives there's all that good educational material from the documentation when at the last minute i couldn't go to Rio (siiiiiiiiiigh), but we interacted online in chat rooms and plenary sidebars. I thank you all for it and perhaps if you wish could put something together on the topic.</font></div>
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<div><font size="4">Warm regards,</font></div>
<div><font size="4">LDMF</font></div>
<div><font size="4">*Respectful Interfaces*.<br></font><br></div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Ken Lohento <<a href="mailto:klohento@panos-ao.org">klohento@panos-ao.org</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Hi<br><br>My two cents : I have to agree with Avri. To my knowledge the MAG didn't not take any decision to stop the OCDC (I can't remember neither any formal discussion about stopping a working group or DC). It's however true that some MAG members, who were members of this group, announced that they were leaving it (I understood they said it was not working properly).But there was no MAG decision about it.<br>
<br>Rgds<br><br>KL<br><br>Avri Doria a écrit :<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Hi,<br><br>I just wanted to point out a correction to Adam's original remark and hence to Jeremy's comment n it.<br>
<br>There never was a decision in Secretariat, nor any action, to remove the OCDC or to silence it in any way. Many of the members of the group did quit at one point, but as you will notice, the OCDC is still listed on the IGF's DC page: <a href="http://www.intgovforum.org/Dynamic%20Coalitions.php" target="_blank">http://www.intgovforum.org/Dynamic%20Coalitions.php</a> . Ie. "the MAG and Secretariat never stepped in." I would note that there have not been any postings in the OCDC (<a href="http://igf-online.net/" target="_blank">http://igf-online.net</a>) other then from Jeremy in a while.<br>
<br>To my knowledge, neither the OCDC nor the "IGF Remote Participation Working Group" mentioned by Ginger, have been barred from comment at any meeting. In fact the OCDC made a report in Rio which, if I recall, Jeremy read out <a href="http://www.intgovforum.org/Rio_Meeting/IGF2-ReportingBack-15NOV07.txt" target="_blank">http://www.intgovforum.org/Rio_Meeting/IGF2-ReportingBack-15NOV07.txt</a>, and comments from the IGF Remote Participation WG were read out in Geneva at the last consultations.<br>
<br>Ginger's group, btw, has not yet asked to be listed as one of the DCs. It is my assumption that if this group wishes to be listed as one of the DCs, it only needs to send information, in the same format as the other DCs, to the IGF office with the request.<br>
<br>a.<br><br>On 27 May 2008, at 22:20, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">On 27/05/2008, at 11:27 PM, Adam Peake wrote:<br></blockquote><br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><br></blockquote></blockquote><br>Jeremy, you and Kieren couldn't agree, had made no progress, your dynamic coalition (I was a member) was a mess. So the secretariat and MAG stepped in.<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"> First, this is the first public acknowledgment I've seen of the concerted back-room move to crush the Online Collaboration Dynamic Coalition, as part of which you and the other MAG members who had been members of its mailing list left en masse. It is a shame that you couldn't have been open about your intentions at the time.<br>
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