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<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>As
I said, if they have CS cred, and CS backgrounds, they are CS, period –
whoever their employer may be.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Deliberately
exclusionary language and positions like this are completely against the letter
and the spirit of the charter. Besides, such language serves to deprive you
of a major asset – a large majority of CS just don’t have the
necessary technical awareness to meaningfully participate in these
discussions. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>By
alienating these people (and quite a few of them, such as Kieren, have solid CS
cred behind them), you are robbing yourself of some of your best and most
potent advocates.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Which
is why I have, so frequently, called for DIPLO and other organizations to
empower and facilitate bridge courses for CS to meaningfully participate
in these discussions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> suresh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Guru [mailto:guru@itforchange.net] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 26, 2008 12:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> governance@lists.cpsr.org; Suresh Ramasubramanian<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Rui Correia'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [governance] Mercenaries on the list<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:5.25pt'><span style='font-family:"Book Antiqua","serif"'>Suresh<br>
<br>
Repeatedly on this list, I (and Parminder and others) have sought the
definition of the 'technical community'. This term is being used ambiguously to
reflect two different ideas:<br>
<br>
a. people who have technical expertise - such as yourself, McTim, Carlos, Izumi
etc etc<br>
b. Organizations that are currently performing Internet
Administration/Governance (who we termed as IAB in a earlier discussion on the
list) - which basically implies the people who represent them </span><br>
<br>
I don't think it is anyones case that the first group is to be completely kept
out of CS. If that is what you are implying in your mail below, that is the
position of Parminder and Milton , then I suggest that it is a
misrepresentation.<br>
<br>
On the other hand, wrt IAB, the position of IGC is clear. See the the Civil
Society Internet Governance Caucus’s Inputs for the Open IGF
Consultations, Geneva, 26th February, 2008 - <a
href="http://www.igcaucus.org/IGC%20-%20MAG%20Rotation.pdf">http://www.igcaucus.org/IGC%20-%20MAG%20Rotation.pdf</a><br>
<br>
"We agree that the organizations having an important role in Internet
administration and the development of Internet-related technical standards
should continue to be represented in the MAG. However, their representation
should not be at the expense of civil society participation".<br>
<br>
As I mentioned in my previous mail, IGC selects members for the CS quota. Hence
it seems clear to me that IABs (being people who represent IABs) cannot seek
representation in MAG through IGC / with IGC endorsement.<br>
<br>
Guru<o:p></o:p></p>
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