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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>>if you're going to be late, i'd suggest you send the secretariat a
note to that effect.. i'm sure they'll understand<br>
<br>
>karen.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Thanks, Karen, I will be able to send three of them, and Milton will be
sending the post-JPA one. Parminder </span></font><font size=2 color=navy
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> karen banks
[mailto:karenb@gn.apc.org] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, April 30, 2008
2:16 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> governance@lists.cpsr.org;
Parminder<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [governance] IGF
workshops</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>hi parminder<br>
<br>
I think you should submit the prposals (as summarised below, with the noted
exception re the IGP led proposal)<br>
<br>
if you're going to be late, i'd suggest you send the secretariat a note to that
effect.. i'm sure they'll understand<br>
<br>
karen<br>
<br>
<br>
At 03:27 30/04/2008, you wrote:<br>
<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>Sorry, Bill and others who may have raised
points that I may have not been able to address. I am very busy in an ITfC
organized workshop on ICTs in Indian education policy in New delhi,
though I have dutifully kept an eye on all emails to the list. <br>
<br>
Aslo, as you will all understand, at this point of the consensus process, I
would not like to get into too many discussions </span></font><font size=2
color=navy face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;
color:navy'>J<br>
</span></font> <br>
<br>
However since Bill asks for some clarification before he could say yes or no
(though I note he has said yes to all in a later email) I thought I should
clarify.<br>
<br>
> ---so all aspects of IG to be viewed as rights issues, not just
access?), its connection to internationally agreed HR vs creating new rights,
etc. <br>
<br>
Yes, that how it is. <br>
<br>
<br>
Also I will clean up the proposals to my best ability, if the consensus is
reached, in the little time I will have today before submitting, but if I cant,
I think they will let us do it in the next 2-3 days, and that MAG wouldnt
start to see the proposals immediately. I will submit three proposals ands will
ask Milton to submit the post-JPA one, that is, to repeat, if the consensus
carries. <br>
<br>
Best Parminder <br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> William Drake [<a
href="mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch" eudora=autourl>
mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch</a>] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, April 28, 2008 10:56
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Singh, Parminder; Governance<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [governance] IGF
workshops<br>
</span></font> <br>
<font size=4><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>Hi Parminder,<br>
<br>
Thanks for this. If we could clarify something before having to say yes
or no, Id appreciate it.<br>
<br>
Is the idea that the IGC would be submitting only responses to the questions
that are supposed to be answered by 30 April, # 1, 2, 4 and 9? Of are you
thinking of plugging in all the material now at hand for all nine, irrespective
of what state its in and whether its ready for prime time? If
it is the latter, maybe others have a different view, but I wouldnt think
it would be a procedural violation of the consensus call to simply edit out
some of the various process comments being exchanged among WG members within
these docs, like NB. Workshop duration is 90mn, which means that we should
have no more than 6-7 panelists plus chair and it would be good to
have a government (or two) and an intergovermmental as co-sponsors - i would
propose the COE/UNESCO as possibilities - brazil, uk, australia, others?
and we need to work on thisk, but for sure it will if we get the right
people as speakers and lists of people/orgs that might (or might not) be
contacted about cosponsoring/speaking...etc. It would be odd to me anyway
to include such material in something that will be reviewed by the
MAG. <br>
<br>
<br>
A couple of substantive comments FWIW, which is not much I guess, given that
Ive missed the deadline.<br>
<br>
Im still having a hard time getting my head around the precise focus of
the rights proposal (What is lacking is a rights framework for Internet
governance that can address these issues and conflicts at each layer
of the Internet environment, from the critical Internet resources of
infrastructure and code through to the content and applications that they
support---so all aspects of IG to be viewed as rights issues, not just
access?), its connection to internationally agreed HR vs creating new rights,
etc. <br>
<br>
On the Fulfilling WS, I wonder how helpful it is to frame it in terms of this
binary: Some believe that there are elements of the IGF's mandate
that have been overlooked or minimised in its operation to date.
Others maintain, to the contrary, that the IGF must contain the
overreaching ambitions of those who would transform it from a non-binding
forum for discussion into something more.? Some MAGites et al
might read this as suggesting that those who think elements of the mandate have
been overlooked by definition want to transform it from a non-binding
forum, which is not representative of the range of views/options and could
set off alarm bells and bring us back to the pre-Rio worrying about this being
controversial etc. BTW, this needs to list at least one or two
cosponsors, no? Has the WG reached out to anyone?<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Bill<br>
<br>
On 4/28/08 6:21 PM, "Parminder" <parminder@itforchange.net>
wrote:<br>
<br>
Hi all<br>
<br>
Please find enclosed the full text of four workshop proposals, that IGC<br>
proposes to sponsor at the IGF, Hyderabad. <br>
<br>
1. The Transboundary Internet: Jurisdiction, Control and Sovereignty<br>
<br>
2. The Future of ICANN: After the JPA, What?<br>
<br>
3. A Rights Agenda for Internet Governance<br>
<br>
4. The role and mandate of the IGF<br>
<br>
<br>
These are being put for a 48 hour consensus process. If a consensus or a<br>
rough consensus is made out, these proposals will be submitted to the IGF<br>
secretariat on the 30th, around 5 PM GMT. <br>
<br>
Please indicate a clear 'yes' or 'no' for forwarding these proposals, as<br>
they stand...<br>
<br>
While additional comments justifying a yes or no vote may be made, they<br>
should follow a clear unqualified 'yes' or 'no'.<br>
<br>
In fact such additional comments are welcome especially in case of a 'no'<br>
vote, because it helps calling a possible rough consensus, taking into<br>
consideration the nature and the extent of dissent. <br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
Parminder <br>
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