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color=#0000ff>Max,</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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color=#0000ff>Maybe I'm missing it, but in what you've pointed to I don't see
where the issues which we have been discussing here around the rubric
"Right to the Internet" are included.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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class=869372905-30042008>MG</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Max Senges [mailto:maxsenges@gmail.com]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> April 29, 2008 10:34 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
governance@lists.cpsr.org; Jeanette Hofmann<BR><B>Cc:</B>
Parminder<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [governance] IGF workshops<BR><BR><SPAN
class=869372905-30042008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV></FONT>I also support all
4 proposals.<BR><BR>Regarding the Rights Agenda workshop, I'd like to share
that the IBR DC is preparing an additional workshop proposal which deals with
the practicalities of including Rights in Internet Governance. (<A
href="http://www.socialtext.net/internet-bill-of-rights/index.cgi?mainstreaming_human_rights_in_the_work_of_the_dynamic_coalitions">http://www.socialtext.net/internet-bill-of-rights/index.cgi?mainstreaming_human_rights_in_the_work_of_the_dynamic_coalitions</A>)<BR><BR>IMHO
the proposed workshop on the Agenda is meant to bring all the folks interested
in Rights together, map the field (synergies and hot topics) and start
working on a shared agenda.<BR><BR>Max<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Jeanette Hofmann
<jeanette@wzb.eu> wrote:<BR>
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yes to all 4 workshop proposals from me as well.<BR>I hope though that the
one on rights will be revised after the
submission.<BR>jeanette<BR><BR>shaila mistry wrote:<BR>
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<DIV class=Wj3C7c>"Yes" to all four workshops<BR>Shaila Rao
Mistry<BR><BR>*/Parminder <<A href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net"
target=_blank>parminder@itforchange.net</A>>/* wrote:<BR><BR><BR>
Hi all<BR><BR> Please find enclosed the full text of
four workshop proposals, that IGC<BR> proposes to sponsor at
the IGF, Hyderabad.<BR><BR> 1. The Transboundary Internet:
Jurisdiction, Control and Sovereignty<BR><BR> 2. The Future of
ICANN: After the JPA, What?<BR><BR> 3. A Rights Agenda for
Internet Governance<BR><BR> 4. The role and mandate of the
IGF<BR><BR><BR> These are being put for a 48 hour consensus
process. If a consensus or a<BR> rough consensus is made out,
these proposals will be submitted to<BR> the IGF<BR>
secretariat on the 30th, around 5 PM GMT.<BR><BR> Please
indicate a clear 'yes' or 'no' for forwarding these proposals,
as<BR> they stand...<BR><BR> While additional
comments justifying a yes or no vote may be made, they<BR>
should follow a clear unqualified 'yes' or 'no'.<BR><BR>
In fact such additional comments are welcome especially in case of
a<BR> 'no'<BR> vote, because it helps calling a
possible rough consensus, taking into<BR> consideration the
nature and the extent of dissent.<BR><BR> Thanks<BR><BR>
Parminder<BR>
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From: "Bret Fausett" <<A href="mailto:bfausett@internet.law.pro"
target=_blank>bfausett@internet.law.pro</A>><BR> To: <<A
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[governance] Workshop Proposal: Transboundary Internet<BR>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:57:53 +0530<BR><BR> All, below
is a draft workshop proposal that Meryem Marzouki, William
Drake, Ian Peter, Parminder Singh and I have been working on. We
plan to submit it by the deadline, but would like your input
and suggestions, on all aspects.<BR>
-- Bret<BR> - - - - - D R A F T - - - -
-<BR> 1. Name of proposed
workshop<BR> The Transboundary Internet: Jurisdiction, Control
and Sovereignty<BR> 2. Provide a concise
description of the proposed workshop theme including its
importance and relevance to the IGF.<BR> The Internet crosses
the boundaries of all nations and raises some unique
transboundary jurisdictional problems. The recent case of a
British citizen living in Spain, with Internet servers in the
Bahamas, selling holidays to Cuba, and having his domain name
impounded by a registrar located in the USA because it
appeared to break the US embargo against Cuba is one recent
case in point. Another landmark case was the French-US Yahoo!
case in 1999 dealing with sale of nazi memorabilia, but but
apart from these high profile content cases there are many
examples in other areas such as privacy, consumer issues,
cybercrime, and intellectual property.<BR> This workshop
will discuss the many implications of competing national
jurisdictions being projected into a globalized space where multiple
normative sources apply, such as political, legal, technical,
contractual, and behavioral regulations. Through practical
case studies, this workshop will look at the implications of
various approaches to resolving these issues and the
implications for Internet governance, international law,
national sovereignty, democracy, and human rights and
fundamental freedoms.<BR> The workshop also explores the
implications for Internet governance where no structures are
in place to deal with emerging issues, and how default
unilateral action in the absence of structural alternatives
can lead to de facto Internet governance.<BR> 3.
Provide the names and affiliations of the panellists you are
planning to invite. Describe the main actors in the field and
whether you have approached them about their willingness to
participate in proposed workshop.<BR> NB.
Workshop duration is 90mn, which means that we should have no more
than 6-7 panelists plus chair. This is a tentative list of
speakers.<BR> • Maud de Boer-Buquicchio,
Deputy Secretary General, The<BR> Council of
Europe<BR> • Manon Ress /James
Love, Knowledge Ecology<BR> International/CPTech,
USA<BR> • Meryem Marzouki, President,
European Digital Rights, Europe<BR> •
Bret A. Fausett, Internet law Attorney, Cathcart, Collins &
Kneafsey, LLP USA<BR> • Ian Peter,
Internet Analyst, Ian Peter and Associates,<BR>
Australia<BR> • William Drake,
Graduate Institute of International and<BR> Development
Studies, Switzerland<BR> Yet to be approached: other
identified experts with various perspectives on specific case
studies.<BR> Themes to be discussed by speakers:<BR>
• Liability and the principle of the country of
origin<BR> (off-line and on-line content):
Convention on Transfrontier television, Rome II, Convention
on TV without Frontiers,<BR> • Consumer
protection, contracts, etc.: Hague Convention,<BR> E-commerce
directive<BR> • Cybercrime:
The CoE Convention, its protocols and<BR> implementation
activities<BR> • Technical
and contractual means: ISP charters and hotlines,<BR> blocking
(cf. Pakistan case)<BR> •
Harmonization of national laws through intergovernmental<BR>
agreements<BR> 4. Provide the name
of the organizer(s) of the workshop and their affiliation to
various stakeholder groups. Describe how you will take steps
to adhere to the multi-stakeholder principle, geographical
diversity and gender balance.<BR> -
The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (Civil society)<BR>
- The Council of Europe – TBC
(Intergovernmental organization)<BR> -
European Digital Rights (Civil society)<BR> -
Knowledge Ecology International (KEI/CPTech) – TBC (Civil<BR>
society)<BR> - Ian Peter and
Associates – TBC (Private sector)<BR> Yet to be approached:
Some governments (e.g. France, USA, Netherlands, ...); other
intergovernmental organizations (e.g. OSCE, OCDE,...), other
private sector constituencies (e.g. ISP associations,
newspaper associations, registrars, search engine/social networking
companies, ...); other civil society
constituencies.<BR> 5. Does the proposed
workshop provide different perspectives on<BR> the
issues under discussion?<BR> Yes. Expertise is being
sought from various areas to provide a comprehensive coverage
of issues and perspectives involved (to be updated
later).<BR> 6. Please explain how the
workshop will address issues relating<BR> to
Internet governance and describe how the workshop conforms with the
Tunis Agenda in terms of substance and the mandate of the
IGF.<BR> The first and foremost need for global Internet
governance arrangements comes from the global,
cross-boundaries nature of the Internet. Issues with global
Internet governance are not only related to critical Internet
resources management, but also to the circulation of content
and data and to the protection of the general communications
infrastructure. Jurisdictions, control and sovereignty issues
are thus at the heart of global Internet governance
discussions. Given the difficulty to harmonize national
legislations, and given the issue of the competence of
jurisdictions, alternative methods to State regulations are
more and more considered, promoted and implemented. It is the
very aim of this workshop to explore and discuss these
alternatives.<BR> TA: Para 72(b)(c)(g)(i)(k)<BR>
7. List similar events you and/or any other IGF
workshops you<BR> have organized in the
past.<BR> The Civil,Society Internet Governance Caucus and
other sponsors have organized workshops at previous IGF
meetings (to be updated later)<BR> 8. Were
you part of organizing a workshop last year? Which one?<BR>
Did you submit a workshop report?<BR> Yes
(to be updated with list of previous workshops)<BR> 9.
Under which of the five IGF themes does the proposal
fall<BR> under ?<BR> •
Managing the Internet (Using the Internet)<BR> •
Arrangements for Internet governance<BR> - - - - - D R
A F T - - - - -<BR>
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From: "Milton L Mueller" <<A href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu"
target=_blank>mueller@syr.edu</A>><BR> To: <<A
href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org"
target=_blank>governance@lists.cpsr.org</A>><BR> Subject:
[governance] Internationalization Workshop<BR> Date: Sat, 26
Apr 2008 01:42:02 +0530<BR><BR><BR> Here is the proposal as it
now stands. Note that after two requests we<BR> are still
waiting for volunteers/interested parties from this list.<BR>
1. Name of proposed workshop The Future of ICANN: After
the JPA, What?<BR> 2. Provide a concise
description of the proposed workshop theme<BR> including its
importance and relevance to the IGF.<BR> ICANN, which
coordinates and sets policy for the global domain name<BR>
system (DNS) and IP addressing, is linked to the US
Government<BR> through a<BR> Joint Project
Agreement (JPA) that expires in September 2009. The JPA<BR>
and its renewal process provides what, during WSIS, became known
as<BR> "political oversight" over ICANN. The US government
says that it is<BR> committed to "completing the transition"
to private sector coordination<BR> of the Domain Name System,
which implies an expiration of the JPA.<BR> During the recent
mid-term review, ICANN made it clear that it also<BR> strongly
supports an end to the JPA. ICANN's call was supported by some<BR>
stakeholders, but others expressed concerns about ensuring
its<BR> accountability without some kind of governmental
oversight.<BR> This panel is designed to provide a careful and
balanced exploration of<BR> whether ICANN is ready to be free
of US government oversight, and if so<BR> what kind of
external oversight - if any - should replace it. Panelists<BR>
will be encouraged to provide specific models for ICANN's status
and<BR> various oversight models and offer practical
suggestions on how to make<BR> changes in the current
situation. Advocates of retaining the status quo<BR> will also
be represented. 3. Provide the names and
affiliations of the panellists you are<BR> planning<BR>
to invite. Describe the main actors in the field and whether you
have<BR> you approached them about their willingness to
participate in proposed<BR> workshop.
ICANN: Peter Dengate Thrush<BR> IGP: Milton
Mueller<BR> Dr. Vladimir V. Sokolov, Moscow State University,
Deputy Director,<BR> International Institute for<BR>
Government of Canada<BR> Michael Palage, Attorney and
former ICANN Board member<BR> Nashwa Abdel Baki, Egyptian
Universities Network (EUN)<BR> <civil society
representative selected by IGC><BR> Internet Society -
either Stefano Trumpy or Lynn St. Amour<BR> Milton
Mueller<BR> Professor, Syracuse University School of
Information Studies<BR> XS4All Professor, Delft University of
Technology<BR> ------------------------------<BR>
Internet Governance Project:<BR> <A
href="http://internetgovernance.org"
target=_blank>http://internetgovernance.org</A><BR>
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From: "karen banks" <<A href="mailto:karenb@gn.apc.org"
target=_blank>karenb@gn.apc.org</A>><BR> To: <<A
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[governance] IGC workshop: A rights agenda for Internet<BR>
Governance<BR> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:41:15
+0530<BR><BR> Dear all<BR><BR> A working group
comprised of the following folk have worked hard to<BR> draft
a proposal on:<BR><BR> A rights agenda for internet
goernance<BR><BR> The working group included : Michael
Gurstein, Parminder Jeet<BR> Singh, Lisa Horner,
Konstantinos Komaitis, Vittorio Bertola, Robin<BR> Gross,
Robert Guerra, rafik dammak, linda misek-falkoff and myself.<BR>
I believe posts were also shared from time to time with the bill
or<BR> rights coalition. (colleagues - please clarify any
omissions i may<BR> have made in that list..)<BR><BR>
It was a very interesting drafting process, and we fully
realise<BR> that this is a complex and challenging topic to
bring to the IGF<BR> Table - but we are convinced that it is
not only relevant to the IGF<BR> Mandate, but central to the
mandate and the long term impact of the<BR> IGF
process.<BR><BR> Please review the attached draft - we look
forward to your comments<BR> in relation to<BR><BR>
- the substantive sections (q2 and q6)<BR> - ideas for
panellists and main actors in the field (q3)<BR> - ideas for 2
or 3 additional co-sponsors (q4)<BR> - your thoughts on which
theme(s) the proposal best fits with - i<BR> would say it's an
'missing' crosscut ;)<BR><BR> we'll take a round of comments
til end monday (april 28th) and take<BR> it from
there..<BR><BR> thanks everyone<BR><BR> karen (for
michael, parminder and the working
group)<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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From: "Jeremy Malcolm" <<A href="mailto:Jeremy@Malcolm.id.au"
target=_blank>Jeremy@Malcolm.id.au</A>><BR> To: <<A
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[governance] Workshop proposal: The Role and Mandate of the IGF<BR>
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:48:37 +0530<BR><BR> A small
working group comprising Lee McKnight, Karen Banks, Baudouin
Schombe and myself was recently convened by Parminder to work on a
proposal for a workshop for Hyderabad on "The Role and
Mandate of the IGF".<BR> Whilst not everyone in
the working group has had the time to consider this text
(which myself, Baudouin and Parminder contributed to), it is
presented now due to pressure of time, since the approval of the
caucus is required before 30 April.<BR> Please
send comments on the draft proposal to the list as soon as
possible. Thank you!<BR> --- begins ---<BR>
Title of the Workshop: 'The role and mandate of the IGF'<BR>
Civil Society Internet Caucus held a workshop on the same theme,
'The role and mandate of the IGF', at IGF, Rio. A report of
this first workshop is found athttp://<A
href="http://intgovforum.org/Rio_event_report.php"
target=_blank>intgovforum.org/Rio_event_report.php</A>?<BR>
mem=30. It was driven by an identification of a need for regular
self-<BR> appraisal of the IGF vis-à-vis its mandated role.
Such a 'periodic review' is also required by the Tunis Agenda
(paragraph 73 b). Consequently, the caucus proposes to hold a
workshop with the same title during IGF, Hyderabad.<BR>
The role and mandate of the Internet Governance Forum were set out
in general terms at the World Summit on the Information
Society, particularly in paragraph 72 of the Tunis Agenda.
However since the conclusion of the World Summit,
various interpretations of this general statement of the
IGF's role and mandate have been put forward and continue to
be debated amongst its stakeholders. Some believe that
there are elements of the IGF's mandate that have been overlooked
or minimised in its operation to date. Others maintain, to the
contrary, that the IGF must contain the overreaching
ambitions of those who would transform it from a non-binding
forum for discussion into something more.<BR>
Since IGF, Hyderabad, represents the midpoint in the initial 5 year
term of the IGF after which the whole IGF process is sought
to be reviewed. It will be pertinent at this midpoint
to<BR> (1) review how the IGF has
fared till now vis-à-vis its TA mandate, and whether any
structure and/or substance corrections are needed for the
remaining part of its initial 5 year mandate<BR> (2)
what are the emerging views on post-2010 arrangements
for the IGF, if one is at all needed.<BR> There
has been unmistakable improvements in the IGF format and
substance since its first meeting whether it has been to include
topics earlier considered too controversial (CIRs for Rio) or
more focused discussions on specific issues (as per tentative
program for Hyderabad). The directions of these changes
vis-à-vis fulfillment of the mandate of the IGF may also be
an important issue of discussion. Since paragraph 73 also
speaks about a 'decentralized structure' it will also be
worth exploring how can the IGF be decentralized beyond the
present structure of a single annual event, perhaps by exploring
IGF like structures at the regional and national levels (which will
inter aliafulfill part of the requirements of paragraph 80)
and working group working on important issues contributing to
the proceedings of the annual event.<BR> --
Jeremy Malcolm LLB (Hons) B Com<BR> Internet and
Open Source lawyer, IT consultant, actor<BR> host -t NAPTR
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meant to tell mankind . . . to attempt a quixotic adventure with no
resources<BR>beyond their native strength and sagacity. I had done it myself
and found not<BR>only that the pearl of great price was worth far more than I
possessed, but that<BR>the very perils and privations of the Quest were
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