<div>Greetings and a question, info will be much appreciated.</div>
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<div>As just one person, but perhaps the question holds across the list to some extent, I would very much like to participate, contribute here to the fullest of capacity. But the nominations / elections are not as clear to me as might be. So asking your patience and forbearance ahead of time ... can you please clarify.</div>
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<div>When we are nominated for something I consider it gracious to then step aside and not ask for another role. But it is many months now since acknowledging the honor of the GAID C.S. Nomination, with others. then ... apparent silence. A bit embarrassing, but not the worse calamity of course.</div>
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<div>Meanwhile, one does not ask for more opportunities.</div>
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<div>So.. is this group separate (that is distinguished from) the C.S. nominations e.g. to the GAID? Was that something different, and WSIS related, but is not this group WSIS related?</div>
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<div>Clarifications appreciated; see you again soon here, and add me to active participant committees etc. as you may see fit.</div>
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<div>:) LDMF.<br><br> </div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 4/15/08, <b class="gmail_sendername">Parminder</b> <<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">parminder@itforchange.net</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><br><br>Wolfgang<br><br>As a practice we shd and follow the principle that old appointments stay<br>till new ones are in place. There are admin problems, and associated<br>
problems of adequate dynamism of the group, which does delay appointments.<br>But we are in a formative period and should accept this looseness/<br>flexibility to the extent this in inevitable.<br><br>So, Vittorio is still a co-coordinator, though I can understand his<br>
reluctance of doing much beyond an announced period of end of coordinator<br>ship which thought the charter says should end around June, we find it more<br>convenient to end it with the annual IGF (though never formally decided, so<br>
open to comments).<br><br>The main problem with voting for new coordinator to replace Vittorio has<br>been (1) non availability of online voting system used the last time, which<br>now has been solved (2) the problem, which I have tried to discuss here<br>
earlier, of who is qualified as a voter.<br><br>The IGC charter says membership consists of those who have endorsed the<br>charter. Now, we have a list of those who voted in the charter vote, but<br>still not the names of those 3 who voted against the charter at that time.<br>
So we really do not have the list of charter endorsees. Those who would have<br>joined IGC later may never have considered the option, may not know if it,<br>of endorsing the charter.<br><br>Though in the case of a few scores who joined after I sent out an invite<br>
earlier this year, I clearly asked them about charter endorsement, and we<br>have a separate list of those among them who have endorsed the charter. But<br>they all in any case are still not eligible to vote.<br><br>As for the situation with the last elections, I quote my email of 24th<br>
March, also enclosed, where I had solicited members views on the voting<br>rights issue.<br><br>"The ballot for the co-coordinator election of 2006 carried a proviso that<br>"by voting you affirm that you consider yourself a Civil Society participant<br>
of the Internet Governance Caucus""<br><br>"I am trying to obtain the full list of those who voted in this election.<br>However I still wonder if an affirmation, that too only by implication and<br>not as a forthright statement, of being a 'CS participant of IGC' itself can<br>
mean that one has endorsed the charter. It is likely that someone who does<br>enter into discussion on the list, but does not mean to endorse the charter<br>can say yes to this proviso and proceed to vote. And not be dishonest or<br>
untruthful in doing so."<br><br>(ends)<br><br>So, what I now propose for the coordinator elections to send an email to all<br>those on the IGC since exactly 2 months from with something like<br><br>"This is to prepare a voting list for the election of co-coordinator of IGC.<br>
The charter of the IGC at<br><a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/IGC-charter_final-061014.html">http://www.igcaucus.org/IGC-charter_final-061014.html</a> lays down that the<br>membership of IG consists of those who have endorsed the IGC charter. If you<br>
endorse the IGC charter pleas cut paste the following lines and reply to<br>this email.<br><br>"I have read the IGC charter at .... and endorse it". With your full name<br>appended to this.<br><br>We will prepare a voting list of all who reply in say 10 days, and a ballot<br>
will be sent to all of them and they given a week to vote.<br><br>As you know we have two candidates, David Goldstein and Ian Peter.<br><br>Please comment within the next 4 days if this process is fine with you. Also<br>give your suggestions etc. Avri has offered to help me with this process,<br>
and we will commence it sometime next week.<br><br>Parminder<br><br>Avri - on your email on appeals committee, we will put one together after<br>this election, but as I said till a new one comes in we still go to the old<br>
one for all purposes, including coordinator recall, and that it stays live.<br><br><br><br><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: Kleinwächter, Wolfgang<br>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de">wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de</a>]<br>
> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 11:54 PM<br>> To: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a>; Parminder; Jeanette Hofmann;<br>> <a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a><br>
> Subject: AW: [governance] rights based approach to the Internet<br>><br>> BTW, if I remember correctly, we always had to co-chairs: YJ and me,<br>> Jenatte and Adama. And we had Parminder and Vittorio. Did Vittorio resign<br>
> officially?<br>><br>> wolfgang<br>><br>><br>> ________________________________<br>><br>> Von: Parminder [mailto:<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">parminder@itforchange.net</a>]<br>> Gesendet: Mo 14.04.2008 19:45<br>
> An: 'Jeanette Hofmann'; <a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a><br>> Betreff: RE: [governance] rights based approach to the Internet<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> > Since this list has been extraordinary belligerent from day one,<br>
> > wouldn't agree on any other chair either, in fact had problems finding<br>> > people volunteering for this job, we should stop this discussion and<br>> > hope that those who are willing to coordinate this huddle don't run<br>
> > away. Amen.<br>><br>> Hi Jeanette<br>><br>> That's rather ungratifying a reason for keeping me a coordinator :). On<br>> the<br>> other hand, I can assure you I am nowhere close to running away. Parminder<br>
><br>> > -----Original Message-----<br>> > From: Jeanette Hofmann [mailto:<a href="mailto:jeanette@wzb.eu">jeanette@wzb.eu</a>]<br>> > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 11:08 PM<br>> > To: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a>; McTim<br>
> > Cc: Milton L Mueller; Suresh Ramasubramanian<br>> > Subject: Re: [governance] rights based approach to the Internet<br>> ><br>> > Since this list has been extraordinary belligerent from day one,<br>
> > wouldn't agree on any other chair either, in fact had problems finding<br>> > people volunteering for this job, we should stop this discussion and<br>> > hope that those who are willing to coordinate this huddle don't run<br>
> > away. Amen.<br>> ><br>> > McTim wrote:<br>> > > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu">mueller@syr.edu</a>><br>> > wrote:<br>> > >><br>
> > >> > -----Original Message-----<br>> > >> > From: Suresh Ramasubramanian [mailto:<a href="mailto:suresh@hserus.net">suresh@hserus.net</a>]<br>> > >> > disrespect to his CS credentials, or his excellent work in IT For<br>
> > >> Change,<br>> > >> > he recuse himself from his role as coordinator, and coordination<br>> be<br>> > >> taken<br>> > >> > over by Bill Drake, Adam, Meryem, Jeanette Hoffman or some others<br>
> on<br>> > >> the<br>> > >> > list.<br>> > >><br>> > >> I'm not sure whether this was a serious suggestion, but if so it is<br>> > >> highly inappropriate for you to try to leverage minor quibbles over<br>
> a<br>> > >> workshop into a coup. Parminder is our elected coordinator and shall<br>> > >> remain so until we have another election.<br>> > ><br>> > > Or a recall (according to the charter).<br>
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