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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I love this jargon. “Revenue based
community micro-enterprises.” Some of us call that “small business.” I do _<i><span
style='font-style:italic'>not</span></i>_ wish to enter into any debate about
the group’s CS credentials or eligibility, it’s fine with me. But you gotta
love this.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Michael Gurstein
[mailto:gurstein@gmail.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:53
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">governance@lists.cpsr.org</st1:PersonName>;
'Parminder'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [governance] NOMCOM -
MAG</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Based on what Rudi has said below and what
I understand about the role of Warnets in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Indonesia</st1:place></st1:country-region> (a rather unique hybrid
of a cybercafe and a telecentre) I would guess that both he and his association
would qualify as CS (they operate as revenue
based community micro-enteprises...</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Parminder
[mailto:parminder@itforchange.net] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> March 25, 2008 6:22 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">governance@lists.cpsr.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [governance] NOMCOM - MAG</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks a lot, Rudi. We do need more people
to volunteer, and especially from different parts of the world, which may
currently be under-represented. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>However, I am not clear about your
self-declaration which mentions both private sector and NGO.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>To be a full member of the IGC one has to
self-declare oneself as a civil society person. Such full membership is
necessary to hold caucus appointments, like being on the nomcom. And as
understood by us, civil society stands in some kind of a distinction vis a vis
governments and governance institutions on one hand, and private / business
sector on the other. This distinction for us is most valid from the point of
view of the principal political identity and representation a person brings in
vis a vis IG policies and advocacy, the arena of activity of this caucus.
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So responding to way you have proposed
your volunteer-ship as ‘from Indonesia private sector’ I must seek this
clarification from you whether you affirm yourself to be civil society person,
and representing public interest, and not private and/or business interests,
individually or in aggregation, in terms of your engagement with IG issues. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I am sorry if this appears a bit
complicated, and I am happy to give any clarification on this list, or offlist,
i.e. in response to an email send to my id alone. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks and Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Parminder <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
rusdiah@rad.net.id [mailto:rusdiah@rad.net.id] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, March 22, 2008
12:00 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">governance@lists.cpsr.org</st1:PersonName>;
karen banks<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">governance@lists.cpsr.org</st1:PersonName>;
Rudi Vansnick<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Rudi Rusdiah - APW - <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Indonesia</st1:place></st1:country-region>
[governance] NOMCOM - MAG </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I am willing to volunteer from Indonesia Private Sector (NGO) :<br>
<br>
Rudi Rusdiah<br>
Association of <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Community</st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Internet</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Center</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>
- APWKomitel (Asosiasi Pengusaha Warnet)<br>
( http://www.apwkomitel.org , community mailing list:
apwkomitel@yahoogroups.com (3,000 members) )<br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Jakarta</st1:City> , <st1:country-region
w:st="on">Indonesia</st1:country-region></st1:place><br>
GSM: +6281 677 4203<br>
Fax: +6221 7507545<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
> hi<br>
> <br>
> as per email parminder, i'm available for nomcom<br>
> <br>
> karen<br>
> <br>
> At 01:25 20/03/2008, Rudi Vansnick wrote:<br>
>>I'm willing to serve in the nomcom.<br>
>><br>
>>Rudi Vansnick<br>
>>President - CEO Internet Society <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Belgium</st1:place></st1:country-region> vzw<br>
>>Board member ISOC-ECC Barcelona-Spain<br>
>>EURALO board member<br>
>>/Dendermondesteenweg 143 - B-9070 Destelbergen<br>
>><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Belgium</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
>>GSM: +32 (0)475 28 16 32<br>
>>Tel: +32 (0)70 77 39 39/<br>
>>http://www.isoc.be<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>Parminder schreef:<br>
>>><br>
>>>Hi All<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>>I request urgent submission of names by those ready to volunteer<br>
>>>for the noncom. We need 25 names to do a random selection of 5, and<br>
>>>we have till now only a couple. Pl do it today, preferably.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>>We need to have a nomcom as soon as possible.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>>Meanwhile the discussion on the issue of how and why of rotation<br>
>>>can go on, and the nomcom can pick up the sense of the group from<br>
>>>these discussions, and if they wish engage directly with the group<br>
>>>for clarifications. Meanwhile, I will try to evoke discussions on<br>
>>>key issues and information that are important for the nomcom to<br>
>>>achieve its purpose.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>>Parminder<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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