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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Oh, I am not about to censor discussion of the issues at
all. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It is an interesting discussion – doing business, or not,
with Iran, Cuba and some other nations proscribed by the USG versus this case
here, which affects parties from totally unrelated nations that happen to host
their domain in the USA, with a US based registrar.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>There are also previous cases like wikileaks.org recently, and
well before that, Indymedia some years back. So this is not a very new
issue as such. It is a known issue, and one that would
probably persist even after the ITU, or the IGF, or the MAG, or whichever other
new three letter organization ends up running the show .. because of a simple
principle, sovereignity of a country. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>What you had was DoC contacting a US business (a registrar based
in the USA) and telling them about this issue, demanding a takedown. OK,
so some bureaucrat didn’t apply his mind very much to this case.
Point granted here. But that was a US bureaucrat sending a notice to a US based
company.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Addressing this first depends on the amount of spine that the
registrar actually has. And then needs to be addressed by this guy suing
the registrar + USG for this unintended extra territorial application of US law
(unless he sold a US citizen a vacation in cuba or something, but even then,
extra territorial).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>This at least can (and should) be challenged in court, as this
entity is arguably not doing business in a location that should be affected by
prohibitions on doing business with cuba.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> KovenRonald@aol.com
[mailto:KovenRonald@aol.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> governance@lists.cpsr.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [governance] A Wave of the Watch List, and Speech
Disappears<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Geneva","serif";
color:black'>Dear Suresh --<br>
<br>
Oh, dear, that comment does sound in and of itself like attempted censorship.<br>
<br>
The NYTimes article was interesting, news to me, and demonstrated (contrary to
what I had thought) that the USG has used its I'net oversight powers for a form
of censorship. I thought it was a perfectly valid piece of info to put on the
list, and certainly more interesting than a lot of the personal backbiting that
sometimes makes me want the list to just go away somewhere else.<br>
<br>
Best regards, Rony Koven</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>
<br>
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