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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>On the substantive issues proposed for
main sessions at Hyderabad.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>One the first look none of the themes we
suggested are there. But since this is the first time IGF is going towards specific
topics, we can understand that there must have been a lot of unease among some,
and effort at not ruffling feathers etc…. So, I can still see that some of
the topics we want discussed can seem buried in the listed text…. I also
understand that there is going to be a further process of fine-tuning of these
topics – and we need to really be ready to influence that process in all
ways that we can. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Main sessions are under two overall themes<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>“Universalization of the Internet -
How to reach the next billion (alternate title: Expanding the Internet)”,
and, “Managing the Internet (alternate title: Using the Internet)”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Under
the “Universalization of the Internet’ are listed three possible
topics of discussion <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:ArialMT'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Low cost
sustainable access<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>:Multilingualization<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>:Implications
for development policy<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>And under
‘managing the Internet’<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Critical Internet resources<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Arrangements for Internet governance<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Global cooperation for Internet security
and stability<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I understand that these topics will be
further refined, so that we have the opportunity to turn them towards what we
want discussed. The summary does mention that<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Possible focused topics for “Critical
Internet resources” include:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>• Enabling growth and innovation<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>• Capacity building<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>• The role of public private
partnership in managing the Internet<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>• Transition from IPv4 to IPv6<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>• Governance issues in promoting the
adoption of IPv6<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>• Topics beyond IP addressing<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Going
back to the topics we suggested, ‘development agenda’ will have to
seek some toehold around the part on ‘implications for development policy’
( I know, Bill, your take is more global institutional) . Enhanced cooperation will
have to fit into ‘managing the Internet’ part, and in the same
topic (probably, the sub topic – arrangements for the Internet) the
issue of ‘transparency and participation’ in IG institutions. Network
neutrality doesn’t seem it can come in anywhere. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>There will be a lot of very hot
discussions and some degree of machination around what topics really make to
the IGF form this overall canvass, and there is a lot for all of us to do in
this regard.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>One can already see the battle-lines in
the way the main themes and possible alternatives are listed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>“Universalization of the Internet -
How to reach the next billion (alternate title: Expanding the Internet)”,
and, “Managing the Internet (alternate title: Using the Internet)”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>No prizes for guessing who was pushing for
what. Universalization of Internet is the social policy language, ‘how
to reach the next billion’ and ‘expanding the Internet’ are
market and business sector language….. Similarly, ‘managing the
Internet’ is a softer version of ‘governance of the Internet’
and ‘using the Internet’ (no idea what it could mean) is an
effort to escape discussing policy and governance angles of the Internet. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Parminder <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Parminder
[mailto:parminder@itforchange.net] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, March 01, 2008
1:25 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> governance@lists.cpsr.org;
'Robin Gross'; 'Ian Peter'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [governance] Summary
Report of IGF MAG available</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>More analysis on the MAG summary report<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The best part is that they have agreed to
discuss focused specific issues – I think that is a big step forward. We now
have something at the IGF. Issues can keep changing, and we can have a better
set next year, till we are clear that we need specific issues of public policy
importance to discus at the IGF. The issues chosen this year are also closer to
being clear public policy issues, so that’s a great gain as well. (more
comments on these mentioned issues later)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Equally important, there is a new category
of ‘ main workshops’ that will be linked to the main sessions, and
be on topics chosen by the MAG, though organized by different set of
stakeholders. So this is the category of workshops, as we asked for, which will
be relatively tightly managed, and along with the main session serve the
purpose of giving directions to global Internet public polices…… At
some later stage a separate outcome document on each of the choosen specific
topic, though not mentioned in the present summary, will not be a difficult
next step. So, we are making progress. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think I read Nitin’s summing up
right – he seemed inclined to go towards specific topics, but was non
committal on WGs….. Well, we can keep that for the next time…. (MAG
members, was there any discussion on WGs at all)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>One of the biggest gains also is the
acceptance to make the ‘taking stock and way forward session’ as a
review of IGF vis a vis its mandate<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>“</span></font><font
face=ArialMT><span style='font-family:ArialMT'>The “Taking Stock and the
Way Forward” session could include an evaluation of the IGF in regard to
its mandate”</span></font><font size=2 face=ArialMT><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:ArialMT'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>A big step forward building on IGC’s
workshop of the last year….. I think it is obvious that IGC will get to
organize a ‘main workshop’ on the mandate issue again, and that can
play an important role in the evaluation of IGF in the main session of
‘taking stock and the way forward’. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I have some comments on the specific
topics as chosen by the MAG, but that in the next email<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Parminder
[mailto:parminder@itforchange.net] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, March 01, 2008
12:56 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> governance@lists.cpsr.org;
'Robin Gross'; 'Ian Peter'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [governance] Summary
Report of IGF MAG available</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Our original draft statement did say
clearly that governments are over-represented, and that this should be
corrected. But there was advice on the list against saying so… which
later extended to that we should not say anything about any other group’s
representation and just say CS is under-represented. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Not that things would have changed if we
had said so, but it is important for CS to be upfront and say these things when
the occasion arises and not pussyfoot as we often tend to do. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We can still write to them that gov
representation is steadily climbing though many different means, and this
is a cause of concern etc…Let them not do anything about this, but
let them know that’s what we think…..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Can MAG members tell us if the issue of
co-chair was discussed in the MAG. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The worst part is that where the summary
talks about 50 percent gov representation it says <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face=ArialMT><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:ArialMT'>“However, the group was informed that the current
balance in the MAG, of 50% of its members<u1:p></u1:p> proposed by
governments and 50% by other stakeholder groups, would be maintained.<u1:p></u1:p>”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Note the part ‘the group was
informed’… what does that mean!! Who informed the group. Rest of
the summary is written in form of what the group itself seem to have deliberated
and decided… but this is about something the group having been told
… BY WHOM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Can the MAG members who were present in
Geneva shed some light on it? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Also those among us who have been of the
opinion that MAG should stay as purely an advisory body to UN SG, and have no
substantive identity / authority of its own, would note that we can keep
expecting more and more of these diktats from unknown quarters, which none of
us can ever even reach out to, much less influence… Putting too much
faith in one person, Nitin Desai, who as SG’s Special Advisor, we
may think has the greater influence on SG’s decisions has limits, and may
backfire when there is a change in guard. In any case there are many others who
have great influence with SG’s office and that is showing…. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In not calling for a more independent MAG,
CS has lost a major opportunity. Now it may be too late to even call for it. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>An unnecessary semantics of what would a
bureau mean took away all the energy though those who called for a self-empowered
MAG said a few times that there is no insistence on the name
‘bureau’ and whatever goes with it… So now you have your MAG
which is government loaded because we ourselves colluded in handing over all
powers to the UN SG office… No point ruing it. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Robin Gross
[mailto:robin@ipjustice.org] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, March 01, 2008
6:38 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> governance@lists.cpsr.org; Ian
Peter<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [governance] Summary
Report of IGF MAG available</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>This point concerns me also. And especially when the "special
advisors" are added into the mix, there is an even higher percentage of
govt representation. For example there are 4 representatives from the Russian
govt listed as special advisors. I'm not sure why a non-host country would need
such disproportionate influence in the process. But I wasn't able to go to
Geneva to participate in the meetings, so I don't have a good sense as to
whether such a high percentage of govt representation of the MAG is a fait de
complis or can be challenged. I'd be curious to hear what the MAG members who
were in Geneva think about this.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
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color:navy'><u1:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PostalCode"><u1:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"><u1:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="country-region"><u1:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"><u1:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="Street"><u1:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"><u1:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="address"><u1:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName">The
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text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face=ArialMT><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
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balance in the MAG, of 50% of its members<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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by governments and 50% by other stakeholder groups, would be maintained.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 01 March 2008 04:36<br>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [governance] Summary
Report of IGF MAG available</span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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Summary report of the Multi-Stakeholder Advisory Group meeting in <st1:city u2:st="on"><st1:place u2:st="on">Geneva</st1:place></st1:city>
this week is on the IGF website:<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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