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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Let me expand on that a bit.  And on the mistakes in this
process that led to what I would describe as having some positive outcomes but
several that are decidedly less than optimal<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Ignoring “reachable” goals and getting fired up with
a zeal to overturn an existing system and substitute your own –
especially where that existing system is much more multistakeholder than you
imagine it is, was not the way to go about this at all.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>What all went wrong?  Plenty.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>      
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Expecting any incumbent stakeholders, especially governments, to
marginalize or dilute their own stakes was  naïve – the “Reconstituting
MAG” part of this discussion<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>       </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Even
worse were the attempts to alienate and exclude of your natural allies –
the “technical community” that some of you continue to deny even
exists as a stakeholder group.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b.<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>      </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>A
certain lack of familiarity with technical issues – for which that bridge
course between policy and tech that Izumi san and I were discussing, would
certainly help as well<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>      
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>An even worse mistake was allowing a larger theme of Internet
governance to get compressed into a demand of governance and oversight (even
soft oversight) over ICANN (and I think, implied, over the RIRs) was a huge
blunder<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>       </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Especially
when there are ample opportunities for change, and for consensus development,
within ICANN, and even more so within the RIRs – which are entirely
member driven in terms of operations and governance.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b.<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>      </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You’d
have been much better served actively participating in ICANN’s NCUC (as
well as the various other ICANN constituencies that other people here belong
to), and in the RIR public comment and consensus processes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>c.<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>       </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>A
major problem – at least in my view - is that a substantial part of this
ended up getting based on the IGP paper, and its associated baggage of petty politics
and rivalries spread over the best part of a decade now.  At least, some of the
ideas there got weeded out (thanks, Bill Drake, Adam Peake etc)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>In short, civil society just barely escaped shooting themselves in
the foot out there at the IGF.   Now, after having pointed this out all along,
I will resist the temptation to simply sit back and say “I told you so”. 
Please, repeat please, participate in the very processes you’re trying to
supplant.   And please please remember that “the technical community”
is on your side.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Right now, instead of shooting yourself in the foot, you do have
a foot in the door, a foot that you need to supplement with another foot in the
place where the real work will actually take place – the current
structure (ICANN, RIRs, etc).<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>                suresh<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Suresh
Ramasubramanian [mailto:suresh@hserus.net] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, March 01, 2008 1:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> governance@lists.cpsr.org; 'Parminder'; 'Robin Gross'; 'Ian Peter'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [governance] Summary Report of IGF MAG available<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>.. and did you by any chance expect anything different even if
you had noisily and stridently demanded it?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Parminder
[mailto:parminder@itforchange.net] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, March 01, 2008 12:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> governance@lists.cpsr.org; 'Robin Gross'; 'Ian Peter'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [governance] Summary Report of IGF MAG available<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>An unnecessary semantics of what would a bureau mean took away all
the energy though those who called for a self-empowered MAG said a few times
that there is no insistence on the name ‘bureau’ and whatever goes
with it… So now you have your MAG which is government loaded because we
ourselves colluded in handing over all powers to the UN SG office… No
point ruing it.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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