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<div>This point concerns me also. And especially when the "special advisors" are added into the mix, there is an even higher percentage of govt representation. For example there are 4 representatives from the Russian govt listed as special advisors. I'm not sure why a non-host country would need such disproportionate influence in the process. But I wasn't able to go to Geneva to participate in the meetings, so I don't have a good sense as to whether such a high percentage of govt representation of the MAG is a fait de complis or can be challenged. I'd be curious to hear what the MAG members who were in Geneva think about this.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Robin</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><br><div><div>On Feb 29, 2008, at 12:39 PM, Ian Peter wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PostalCode"> <o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"> <o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="country-region"> <o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"> <o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="Street"> <o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"> <o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="address"> <o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"> <!--[if !mso]> <style> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } </style> <![endif]--> <div class="Section1"><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">The most telling point here appears to be<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><font size="2" face="ArialMT"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:ArialMT">>However, the group was informed that the current balance in the MAG, of 50% of its members<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="ArialMT"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:ArialMT">>proposed by governments and 50% by other stakeholder groups, would be maintained.</span></font><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Is there any way to challenge whether 50% government is really multistakeholder?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <div><p class="MsoAutoSig"><font size="3" color="navy" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy">Ian Peter<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoAutoSig"><font size="3" color="navy" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy">Ian Peter and Associates Pty Ltd<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoAutoSig"><font size="3" color="navy" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy">PO Box <st1:address w:st="on"><st1:street w:st="on">10670 Adelaide St</st1:street> <st1:city w:st="on">Brisbane</st1:city></st1:address> 4000<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoAutoSig"><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><font size="3" color="navy" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; 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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> Robin Gross [<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">mailto:robin@ipjustice.org</a>] <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> 01 March 2008 04:36<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <st1:personname w:st="on"><a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a></st1:personname>; <a href="mailto:a2k-igf@ipjustice.org">a2k-igf@ipjustice.org</a>; <a href="mailto:Openstds@ipjustice.org">Openstds@ipjustice.org</a>; <a href="mailto:bill-of-rights@ipjustice.org">bill-of-rights@ipjustice.org</a>; <a href="mailto:privacy-coalition@lists.apc.org">privacy-coalition@lists.apc.org</a><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [governance] Summary Report of IGF MAG available</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt"><br> Summary report of the Multi-Stakeholder Advisory Group meeting in <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Geneva</st1:place></st1:city> this week is on the IGF website:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt"> <a href="http://www.intgovforum.org/Feb_igf_meeting/MAG.Summary.28.02.2008.v1.pdf">http://www.intgovforum.org/Feb_igf_meeting/MAG.Summary.28.02.2008.v1.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt">Info on rotation of MAG members and plans for <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Hyderabad</st1:place></st1:city> in the report.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt"><br> <br> </span></font><span class="apple-style-span"><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p> <span style="orphans: 2;text-align:auto;widows: 2;-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; 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