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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Izumi, you may find this paper interesting
in this respect<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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href="http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0710/presentations/Bush-v6-op-reality.pdf">http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0710/presentations/Bush-v6-op-reality.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Its from Randy Bush, very much an IETF
stalwart and true believer – there is a lot more elsewhere on this
problem and various specific aspects of it, but this is a good starting point.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'>Randy Bush has compared the IPv6 rollout (starting from 1995) with the
war in Iraq - “no transition plan, declared victory before the hard
part started, no real long term plan, no realistic estimation of costs, no
support for the folk on the front lines [and continual declaration that]
victory will be next month” –<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Izumi AIZU
[mailto:iza@anr.org] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 21 February 2008 03:21<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> governance@lists.cpsr.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [governance] IPv4-v6 -
"coexistence" not transition - operational issues surfacing</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>At the Delhi ICANN
meeting, I had a lot of conversation on how to deal with<br>
the depletion of remaining IPv4 address pool. Many experts in the technical<br>
community are now saying that IPv4 based network will not go away in<br>
the near future, if not forever, and therefore there is a need to ensure<br>
the coexistence and interoperability of the IPv4 and IPv6 networks and<br>
their applications.<br>
<br>
This may pose a serious challenge. As there do not seem sufficient works<br>
to examine if all IPv4 based network applications, including firewalls or<br>
network management tools, are interoperable with IPv4 based networks.<br>
<br>
We/they had focused too much on the "allocation" of IPv4 and/or v6,
but<br>
now the focus should shift to "network operation" - of both v4 and
v6.<br>
<br clear=all>
At ICANN ALAC, we have started a policy working group on this issue,<br>
and we are going to work on more. It still looks like a very technical issue,<br>
but the more I hear from various experst, the wider and deeper problems<br>
look like to exist. And this is very much a user issue and public policy
matters<br>
that we should care about.<br>
<br>
If you are interested, please see the following page.<br>
<br>
<a
href="https://st.icann.org/ipv6-migration/index.cgi?at_large_ipv4_to_ipv6_migration_policy">https://st.icann.org/ipv6-migration/index.cgi?at_large_ipv4_to_ipv6_migration_policy</a><br>
<br>
There is a very good presentation prepared by the Japanese government,<br>
with their findings from the Working Group.<br>
<br>
It's abit lengthy, and PDF link, but worth to look at.<br>
<a
href="https://st.icann.org/data/workspaces/ipv6-migration/attachments/at_large_ipv4_to_ipv6_migration_policy:20080213104747-1-18800/files/IPV6%20MIC%20Dec%202007.pdf">https://st.icann.org/data/workspaces/ipv6-migration/attachments/at_large_ipv4_to_ipv6_migration_policy:20080213104747-1-18800/files/IPV6%20MIC%20Dec%202007.pdf</a><br>
<br>
best,<br>
<br>
izumi<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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