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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Suresh<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think we broadly agree the present DoC
supervision is something that should not carry on, and we should try to do some
thing to change the situation. The difference of view is about where this
battle should be waged.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>>You need to
lobby DoC, and you need to lobby within ICANN. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The present effort under discussion is
aimed at the DoC. So it is as per what you advise. And when you ask DoC to give
up supervision it is always wise to also say give it up to whom or what…
and next to a ICANN floating free from any political accountability (which is
not acceptable to us) the soft oversight by IGF looks like an constructive
suggestion. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>As for lobbying within ICANN, a couple of
issues.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You may not be right to say that whatever
changes in or about ICANN will come from within ICANN. You are under-estimating
the amount of increase of power of GAC in ICANN, for instance, and where from
these ‘changes’ arose, what factors caused them. They aren’t
from within ICANN. Though ICANN has gone down the path of some reforms lately
(also often triggered, if indirectly, by forces outside it) if one seeks
structural changes in ICANN one cant just rely on persuasive forces aimed at
structures of ICANN itself. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Now to explain briefly why do we seek
structural and not merely evolutionary changes. The new CEO rightly described
ICANN during the Rio meeting as an industry-led governance system. Well, I
don’t like industry based governance systems. Not for a phenomenon that
is increasingly getting under the skin of almost every social institution, and
structurally transforming them. For me it is a close equivalent to a
pharma-industry led global health policy systems. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>ICANN likes to tell everyone that it does
only technical coordination function. Now, if it does only that I have no
interest in participating and influencing its function. But all the political
contestations around it prove that its functions have great – present or
future – political implications. So, I cant participate in the so called
stakeholder out-reach systems of an organization that says that it does only
technical functions and correspondingly its outreach systems also mostly seek
out people of technical persuasions (the connection, to that extent, is obvious
and fair). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Internet is a big social phenomenon with
stakeholders in all sectors, and they should be equally enabled to participate
– ICANN system does not reach out to them. It has constructed a somewhat
dubious category of Internet users which too it not what it is able to reach
out to. And it is very comfortable to reach out a largely technical
community, which does not challenge its structural basis, and have issues with
it that are relatively peripheral and contestations stays in these areas.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Do you think the largely technical
community that interacts through ICANN build stakeholder structures represent
the width of the social constituencies that are implicated in IG today –
which is basically all people of the world. Can you point to anyone who is not
directly or indirectly implicated by the structural changes caused by the
Internet – which changes themselves depend on how the basic internet
platform develops? What are the structures of participation of these people?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>And in this context, that I have drawn
above, where is the legitimacy of an continued industry-led governance system
– I have deep ideological problems with this neo-liberalization of every
social system, governance in this case - or even a technical community
dominated governance system, whose viewpoints are valid, but represent a very
small portion of the range of stakeholders implicated. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>A group of technical community members in
their recent proposal (<a
href="http://intgovforum.org/forum/index.php?topic=419.0">http://intgovforum.org/forum/index.php?topic=419.0</a>)
for MAG renewal give a useful guideline “"AG members should be chosen
on the basis of how large and diverse a community they connect to (which is
different than "represent")." One can try and analyze how big
and diverse communities do the present ICANN out-reach / participation
structures connect to. I don’t see ICANN score well at all on this.
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I don’t think I would have persuaded
you to my viewpoint, but you may perhaps understand a little better. It is not
as simple as you say, in response to Jeanette’s email<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>>when there is an existing structure and an
existing path to change / alter governance processes, trying to create a >whole
new path isnt going to be productive.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Parminder <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Suresh
Ramasubramanian [mailto:suresh@hserus.net] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, February 06, 2008
5:18 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> governance@lists.cpsr.org;
'Parminder'; 'Milton L Mueller'; 'Jeremy Malcolm'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [governance] Re:
[IGP-ANNOUNCE] IGP Alert: Reforming ICANN Oversight: A Historic Opportunity</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Parminder, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I’m simply
being realistic here. Do we expend all the energy of this group tilting
at a windmill that isn’t going to budge all that fast? And gets
moved by a completely different set of winds (aka a different set of
stakeholder communities that wield influence there)?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I’m an Indian,
and you raised the question of the freedom struggle. A whole lot of
people tried to beat the british using armed force – petty rulers, people
who shot a magistrate here, threw a bomb there etc .. did that help? It
was only when the Indian equivalent of civil society organized together into a
single party, with visible leaders and consensus (in this case, the Indian
National Congress) and got into the very system the British operated to govern
the country.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>In other words, you
wont be able to change this from outside, and won’t be able to change
this by operating within the IGF, or submitting petitions and releasing
position papers. You need to lobby DoC, and you need to lobby within
ICANN. Whatever change will take place in ICANN, whatever decisions on
ICANN’s governance get taken, will come from within ICANN and from within
DoC – you are not going to find it easy or possible to wrest
control from DoC and reassign it to IGF.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>ICANN is also,
e&oe DoC oversight, a largely open and stakeholder driven process.
There, just like IGF and elsewhere, those stakeholders who have enough stake in
ICANN to invest time, people and money to participate actively in it get their
views pushed forward ahead of civ soc views. It doesn’t help that
civ soc has pitifully inadequate representation there.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>In other words,
talking wont help. Position papers, PhD theses etc wont help
either. And nor will all the discussion help if it goes on in the
IGF. Taking this battle into ICANN and into lobbying DoC is what is
going to help.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>
suresh<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Parminder
[mailto:parminder@itforchange.net] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, February 06, 2008
12:38 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'Suresh Ramasubramanian';
governance@lists.cpsr.org; 'Milton L Mueller'; 'Jeremy Malcolm'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [governance] Re:
[IGP-ANNOUNCE] IGP Alert: Reforming ICANN Oversight: A Historic Opportunity<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Suresh<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:0in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>></span></font><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'> There’s no meaningful consensus likely to be
achieved, especially with politically charged proposals<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>But before we explore what CAN happen, the
issue is what are OUR political views on this matter. Which way WE want it to
go. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:0in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>> </span></font><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'>DoC isn’t going to give up oversight, no matter
what kind of pipe dream proposals emanate from IGF, IGP etc<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The prior issue still remains whether you/
we are a part of that ‘pipe-dream’ or not. Are you happy with
DoC’s oversight ? Lets state our political priorities upfront rather than
put up the smokescreen of what may or may not ‘practically’ happen.
(That’s often the obvious viewpoint/ strategy of those happy with the
status quo.) And if we don’t have any political views on this matter at
all let that be stated too…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Civil society advocacy is having political
views and fighting for them… do you think developed countries are going
to increase development aid to close to 1 percent of their GDP, are they going
to agree to development-friendly trade policy, will they allow public domain to
proliferate in face of IP-fueled economic growth plans, would they accept
disproportionate (fairly so) emission control norms for
themselves………………..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So, why is civil society ever even
bothering with these issue or pipe dreams…. You are an Indian, what would
you have thought of all efforts of freedom fighters in early decades of the
last century… pipe dreams?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So before we speak about what may happen
lets know what do you/ we want…. And if we just don’t bother say
that as well.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>When you speak of ‘</span></font><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'>extraordinarily vocal sections of civ soc’ </span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>I do not know</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>whom do you speak of and why would you want them to be less vocal.
I thought IGC tries to provide space and possibilities for a greater voice for
civil society. Or do you mean ONLY some sections of CS are
‘extra-ordinarily’ vocal, in that case which are these sections of
the CS whose voice you think gets suppressed in the process, and which you may
want to promote. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So, in the context of the present thread
of discussion, it is isn’t enough to make the observation ‘there
isn’t any IGF’. We need also to state if we really want any IGF as
such, and if so what IGF. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Parminder <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Suresh
Ramasubramanian [mailto:suresh@hserus.net] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, February 06, 2008
4:39 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> governance@lists.cpsr.org; 'Parminder';
'Milton L Mueller'; 'Jeremy Malcolm'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [governance] Re:
[IGP-ANNOUNCE] IGP Alert: Reforming ICANN Oversight: A Historic Opportunity</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>There isn’t
any “IGF” as such – only some extraordinarily vocal sections
of civ soc, some sections of government (which may be a bit different, in some
cases, from the GAC regulars), some industry etc. Yes there’d be a
substantial cross section of these that are active in ICANN, but ..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'>There’s no meaningful consensus likely to be
achieved, especially with politically charged proposals<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
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size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'>DoC isn’t going to give up oversight, no matter
what kind of pipe dream proposals emanate from IGF, IGP etc<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Parminder
[mailto:parminder@itforchange.net] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, February 06, 2008
12:03 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> governance@lists.cpsr.org;
'Milton L Mueller'; 'Jeremy Malcolm'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [governance] Re:
[IGP-ANNOUNCE] IGP Alert: Reforming ICANN Oversight: A Historic Opportunity<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>So
which is this IGF that wont like an ICANN accountable to it.... and why ?????<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>This is a set of probing
questions. And if Jeremy's observation be true, would it not signify a captured
institution. I am not jumping to any conclusions (as yet) but drawing
implications from some elements of this discussion, which probably will provoke
more debate in this important area.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Parminder <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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