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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>McTim’s point about the IGF and handing over control to it
should be very well taken in that case. GAC’s increased involvement certainly didn’t
originate within ICANN – it originated in the governments that form GAC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>There is no shortage of ways civ soc can go into ICANN ..
industry led because industry seems to be the single largest participating
constituency in ICANN. There is a lot that civil society can, and must, do
within ICANN too.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>That ICANN seeks out people of a technical persuasion is mostly
self selection. If civil society goes in, and provides reasoned, cogent – and apolitical
– arguments, there’s no reason why these cant be taken forward. The problem so
far is that not all civil society people understand ICANN, or the issues that
ICANN governs – or at least, may not speak the same language.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It is this disconnect, this gap, that needs to be bridged first.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> suresh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Parminder
[mailto:parminder@itforchange.net] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 06, 2008 3:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> governance@lists.cpsr.org; 'Suresh Ramasubramanian'; 'Milton L
Mueller'; 'Jeremy Malcolm'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [governance] Re: [IGP-ANNOUNCE] IGP Alert: Reforming ICANN
Oversight: A Historic Opportunity<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Suresh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>I think we broadly agree the present DoC supervision is something
that should not carry on, and we should try to do some thing to change the situation.
The difference of view is about where this battle should be waged.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>>You need to lobby DoC, and you need to lobby within
ICANN. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>The present effort under discussion is aimed at the DoC. So it is
as per what you advise. And when you ask DoC to give up supervision it is
always wise to also say give it up to whom or what… and next to a ICANN
floating free from any political accountability (which is not acceptable to us)
the soft oversight by IGF looks like an constructive suggestion. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>As for lobbying within ICANN, a couple of issues.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>You may not be right to say that whatever changes in or about ICANN
will come from within ICANN. You are under-estimating the amount of increase of
power of GAC in ICANN, for instance, and where from these ‘changes’ arose, what
factors caused them. They aren’t from within ICANN. Though ICANN has gone down
the path of some reforms lately (also often triggered, if indirectly, by forces
outside it) if one seeks structural changes in ICANN one cant just rely on
persuasive forces aimed at structures of ICANN itself. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Now to explain briefly why do we seek structural and not merely
evolutionary changes. The new CEO rightly described ICANN during the Rio
meeting as an industry-led governance system. Well, I don’t like industry based
governance systems. Not for a phenomenon that is increasingly getting under the
skin of almost every social institution, and structurally transforming them.
For me it is a close equivalent to a pharma-industry led global health policy
systems. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>ICANN likes to tell everyone that it does only technical
coordination function. Now, if it does only that I have no interest in
participating and influencing its function. But all the political contestations
around it prove that its functions have great – present or future – political
implications. So, I cant participate in the so called stakeholder out-reach
systems of an organization that says that it does only technical functions and
correspondingly its outreach systems also mostly seek out people of technical
persuasions (the connection, to that extent, is obvious and fair). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Internet is a big social phenomenon with stakeholders in all
sectors, and they should be equally enabled to participate – ICANN system does
not reach out to them. It has constructed a somewhat dubious category of
Internet users which too it not what it is able to reach out to. And it
is very comfortable to reach out a largely technical community, which does not
challenge its structural basis, and have issues with it that are relatively
peripheral and contestations stays in these areas.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Do you think the largely technical community that interacts through
ICANN build stakeholder structures represent the width of the social
constituencies that are implicated in IG today – which is basically all people
of the world. Can you point to anyone who is not directly or indirectly
implicated by the structural changes caused by the Internet – which changes
themselves depend on how the basic internet platform develops? What are the
structures of participation of these people?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>And in this context, that I have drawn above, where is the
legitimacy of an continued industry-led governance system – I have deep
ideological problems with this neo-liberalization of every social system,
governance in this case - or even a technical community dominated
governance system, whose viewpoints are valid, but represent a very small
portion of the range of stakeholders implicated. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>A group of technical community members in their recent proposal (<a
href="http://intgovforum.org/forum/index.php?topic=419.0">http://intgovforum.org/forum/index.php?topic=419.0</a>)
for MAG renewal give a useful guideline “"AG members should be chosen on
the basis of how large and diverse a community they connect to (which is
different than "represent")." One can try and analyze how big
and diverse communities do the present ICANN out-reach / participation
structures connect to. I don’t see ICANN score well at all on this. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>I don’t think I would have persuaded you to my viewpoint, but you
may perhaps understand a little better. It is not as simple as you say, in
response to Jeanette’s email<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>>when
there is an existing structure and an existing path to change / alter
governance processes, trying to create a >whole new path isnt going to be
productive.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Parminder <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Suresh
Ramasubramanian [mailto:suresh@hserus.net] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 06, 2008 5:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> governance@lists.cpsr.org; 'Parminder'; 'Milton L Mueller'; 'Jeremy
Malcolm'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [governance] Re: [IGP-ANNOUNCE] IGP Alert: Reforming ICANN
Oversight: A Historic Opportunity</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Parminder, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I’m simply being realistic here. Do we expend all the
energy of this group tilting at a windmill that isn’t going to budge all that
fast? And gets moved by a completely different set of winds (aka a
different set of stakeholder communities that wield influence there)?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I’m an Indian, and you raised the question of the freedom
struggle. A whole lot of people tried to beat the british using armed
force – petty rulers, people who shot a magistrate here, threw a bomb there etc
.. did that help? It was only when the Indian equivalent of civil society
organized together into a single party, with visible leaders and consensus (in
this case, the Indian National Congress) and got into the very system the
British operated to govern the country.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>In other words, you wont be able to change this from outside,
and won’t be able to change this by operating within the IGF, or submitting
petitions and releasing position papers. You need to lobby DoC, and you
need to lobby within ICANN. Whatever change will take place in ICANN,
whatever decisions on ICANN’s governance get taken, will come from within ICANN
and from within DoC – you are not going to find it easy or possible to
wrest control from DoC and reassign it to IGF.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>ICANN is also, e&oe DoC oversight, a largely open and
stakeholder driven process. There, just like IGF and elsewhere, those
stakeholders who have enough stake in ICANN to invest time, people and money to
participate actively in it get their views pushed forward ahead of civ soc
views. It doesn’t help that civ soc has pitifully inadequate
representation there.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>In other words, talking wont help. Position papers, PhD
theses etc wont help either. And nor will all the discussion help if it
goes on in the IGF. Taking this battle into ICANN and into lobbying DoC
is what is going to help.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>
suresh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Parminder
[mailto:parminder@itforchange.net] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Suresh Ramasubramanian'; governance@lists.cpsr.org; 'Milton L
Mueller'; 'Jeremy Malcolm'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [governance] Re: [IGP-ANNOUNCE] IGP Alert: Reforming ICANN
Oversight: A Historic Opportunity<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Suresh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>></span><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> There’s no meaningful
consensus likely to be achieved, especially with politically charged proposals<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>But before we explore what CAN happen, the issue is what are OUR
political views on this matter. Which way WE want it to go. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>> </span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>DoC
isn’t going to give up oversight, no matter what kind of pipe dream proposals
emanate from IGF, IGP etc<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>The prior issue still remains whether you/ we are a part of that
‘pipe-dream’ or not. Are you happy with DoC’s oversight ? Lets state our
political priorities upfront rather than put up the smokescreen of what may or
may not ‘practically’ happen. (That’s often the obvious viewpoint/ strategy of
those happy with the status quo.) And if we don’t have any political views on
this matter at all let that be stated too…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Civil society advocacy is having political views and fighting for
them… do you think developed countries are going to increase development aid to
close to 1 percent of their GDP, are they going to agree to
development-friendly trade policy, will they allow public domain to proliferate
in face of IP-fueled economic growth plans, would they accept disproportionate
(fairly so) emission control norms for themselves………………..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>So, why is civil society ever even bothering with these issue or
pipe dreams…. You are an Indian, what would you have thought of all efforts of
freedom fighters in early decades of the last century… pipe dreams?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>So before we speak about what may happen lets know what do you/ we
want…. And if we just don’t bother say that as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>When you speak of ‘</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>extraordinarily vocal sections of civ
soc’ </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>I do not know</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>whom do you speak of and why would you want them to be less vocal.
I thought IGC tries to provide space and possibilities for a greater voice for
civil society. Or do you mean ONLY some sections of CS are ‘extra-ordinarily’
vocal, in that case which are these sections of the CS whose voice you think
gets suppressed in the process, and which you may want to promote. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>So, in the context of the present thread of discussion, it is isn’t
enough to make the observation ‘there isn’t any IGF’. We need also to state if
we really want any IGF as such, and if so what IGF. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Parminder <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Suresh
Ramasubramanian [mailto:suresh@hserus.net] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 06, 2008 4:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> governance@lists.cpsr.org; 'Parminder'; 'Milton L Mueller'; 'Jeremy
Malcolm'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [governance] Re: [IGP-ANNOUNCE] IGP Alert: Reforming ICANN
Oversight: A Historic Opportunity</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>There isn’t any “IGF” as such – only some extraordinarily vocal
sections of civ soc, some sections of government (which may be a bit different,
in some cases, from the GAC regulars), some industry etc. Yes there’d be
a substantial cross section of these that are active in ICANN, but ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>There’s no meaningful consensus likely to be achieved,
especially with politically charged proposals<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>DoC isn’t going to give up oversight, no matter what kind of
pipe dream proposals emanate from IGF, IGP etc<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Parminder
[mailto:parminder@itforchange.net] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> governance@lists.cpsr.org; 'Milton L Mueller'; 'Jeremy Malcolm'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [governance] Re: [IGP-ANNOUNCE] IGP Alert: Reforming ICANN
Oversight: A Historic Opportunity<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>So which is this IGF that wont like an
ICANN accountable to it.... and why ?????<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>This
is a set of probing questions. And if Jeremy's observation be true, would it
not signify a captured institution. I am not jumping to any conclusions (as
yet) but drawing implications from some elements of this discussion, which
probably will provoke more debate in this important area.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Parminder
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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