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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Bertrand de La
Chapelle [mailto:bdelachapelle@gmail.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, December 03, 2007
10:45 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">governance@lists.cpsr.org</st1:PersonName>;
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Milton L Mueller</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [governance] Drop
ALAC altogether??</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
 w:st="on"><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Milton</span></font></st1:City></st1:place>,
two questions :<br>
<br>
- when you say "non-commercial users" in NCUC, do you still mean
"non-commercial domain owners" or "general internet users"
?<font color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The
former, as NCUC is currently chartered. NCUC is NOT a substitute for
“enfranchising” “general internet users.” <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>      </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]>regarding
constituencies, you mention their supposed "relatively homogeneous
interests" (or something like it). Does that mean that you consider
constituencies within ICANN as being a way to structure interest groups ?<font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Yes. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>      </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]>And
does not this lead to the "siloed" approach that I have often
described as one of the major limitations in ICANN's PDP (in the gNSO in particular,
hence the proposal to move to a working group model) ?<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>No.
Voting, the exercise of authoritative decision making power, must be based in
some way on balanced representation. The _<i><span style='font-style:italic'>development</span></i>_
of policy, on the other hand, can be more open and flexible and conduicted in
working groups. But in the final analysis there must be some kind of
authoritative decision making.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>By the
way, just to have some fun with you in your current incarnation as govt
representative, would you say that one-country, one-vote representation in the
GAC leads to “major limitations in GAC’s policy development process”? Perhaps
GAC working groups should be “open” – especially since the Board seems to pay
more attention to them than to the GNSO these days? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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