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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I rather hoped that you wouldn’t feel the
need to try to justify your rudeness <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Milton</st1:place></st1:City>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Well, in fact, you haven’t tried to
justify it, you have attempted to deflect attention from the words you wrote by
claiming that anyone that is offended by your comments is being overly
sensitive. And then suggested any effort to bring social norms to a discussion is
akin to censoring people.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Neither are true as you most likely know.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>But if you wish to raise what I felt was
an ad hominem attack, this is what you wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>“Apparently, your real job is not
promoting ‘public participation’ but promoting ‘public participation on terms
and conditions that ICANN's managers choose’.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Going back to my definition of rudeness: “The
deliberate use of provocative language intended to irritate or annoy an
individual; ascribing negative connotations to an individual without evidence
or reasoned analysis; mockery or dismissal of someone’s else’s honestly held
viewpoint.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Your sentence was deliberately provocative
– it applied I was following someone else’s agenda and as such I wasn’t being
straight with people. This can have no other effect except to irritate and
annoy me. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You ascribe negative connotations – that I
am someone acting as a conduit for others – with absolutely no evidence or
reasoned analysis. If you would care to talk to me or to others, you would
recognise that you could not be further from the truth when you imply that I am
following prescribed routes by senior executives in ICANN. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>And finally by implying that I am
following someone else’s agenda, you are dismissing the honestly held views I
express in my posts. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This isn’t me being overly sensitive –
this is you being dismissive and downright rude for no good reason. It
contributed nothing at all to the points under discussion and effectively
brought an end to what I thought was an interesting discussion. All I – and others
on this list – are asking for is some simple professional courtesy.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I should say that it really is not my
intention to pick on you in particular <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Milton</st1:place></st1:City>.
I only drew attention to your rude comment to Jacqueline because that was one
that had appeared just a few hours earlier and so it seemed particularly timely
as an example.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>There are others on this list that are
equally rude and dismissive. And I defy anyone to point to the benefit that has
ever been achieved by such rudeness. But I do think we would all benefit if
everyone became just a little bit more respectful of others’ views and
opinions.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Also, since people are taken with the
argument that claiming something is rude is somehow an attempt to avoid talking
about issues – then I actively encourage people to raise issues without being
rude, or without unfairly pre-defining the discussion, and see what the response
is.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If Milton, or Danny, or anyone else, wants
to post the exact same posts but without the personal insults and dismissive
attitude, then you will find I quite happily respond. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’m not sure it can be any clearer: don’t
be rude, don’t be personal; don’t be dismissive and we might start using the
significant intellect and experience of people on this list to get somewhere.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Kieren<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Milton L Mueller
[mailto:mueller@syr.edu] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, November 24, 2007
1:07 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> governance@lists.cpsr.org;
Kieren McCarthy<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [governance] Rudeness
tectics (was Re: Reinstate the Vote)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Kieren:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I agree that we need to avoid ad hominem
attacks. More about that later. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>But your example below is precisely what
people fear when there is talk of “moderation” of the list and an attempt to
enforce standards of civility. It can easily transform into the kind of
censorship Rony Koven is warning about. What I see in my response to Jacky is a
substantive discussion of, and disagreement about, the nature of global
democracy and the At Large. There is nothing personal about it. There may be
different styles of communication but that’s always going to be an issue in a
global forum combining different cultures. Fundamentally, we are having
political debates. Some of us believe that the stakes are high. Any attempt to
de-politicize these disagreements by calling one side “rude” is not any sort of
progress. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I have difficulty understanding how my
claim that a certain position is “more accurate” than Jacky’s view is
provocative or personalized. It simply calls to our attention a real and
important logical contradiction between those who (like Jacky) are claiming
that global voting for Board members is not in the interest of smaller
countries and the developing world, and those who believe that it would
significantly shift authority over global governance to them. I think Jacky’s
position is not correct. She no doubt thinks it is. I’m willing to hear more
about her position. It’s an important debate and it should not be disrupted or
pushed aside by overly sensitive claims of “rudeness.” Your claim basically
short-circuits that debate. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The same goes for an earlier comment you
tried to dismiss as “ad hominem.” I made a comparison between the China-imposed
electoral system in <st1:place w:st="on">Hong Kong</st1:place> and ICANN’s
so-called “bottom-up” consultative system. I cannot fathom how such a comment
was interpreted by you as “ad hominem.” It was about political structures; it
was not about you. Unless you mean that you will interpret any political
criticism of your employer as a personal insult. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>“Ad hominem” means that the argument
relates “to the man [person]”. My arguments are not about personalities. They
are about ideas and principles. From my point of view, both you and Jacky are
fun and interesting people. No reason and intention to attack either of you
personally. Frankly, I am not the least interested in personalities,
practically to a fault. You have seen me agree with you online (something that
has of course never been reciprocated) and you will see me disagree when our
ideas differ. The same can occur with any other person on the list. That’s all
it’s about. This is to be contrasted with, e.g., Suresh, almost all of whose
comments about me are motivated entirely by personal animosity and have zero
substance (e.g., I am “full of bile”). Which brings us to another point: sure,
in the heat of debate I may stray over the line and offend people once in a
while. Let me know when I do that. But if you want to be credible when you do,
try applying the same standards to Veni and Alejandro and Suresh and all
others. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Kieren McCarthy</st1:PersonName> [mailto:kierenmccarthy@gmail.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, November 23, 2007
1:18 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> governance@lists.cpsr.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [governance] Rudeness
tectics (was Re: Reinstate the Vote)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>> </span></font>i think defining
rudeness will be as difficult as defining morality.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think you’re spreading too far afield
with this approach, Avri.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I would define rudeness in the context
that I was complaining about as:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>“The deliberate use of provocative
language intended to irritate or annoy an individual; ascribing negative
connotations to an individual without evidence or reasoned analysis; mockery or
dismissal of someone’s else’s honestly held viewpoint.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think it is fine to refer to
individuals’ comments and suggestions, and it is also fine to disagree with
them – in fact, that is exactly what works best with these sorts of
discussions. As an example of what I think is fair comment, I will refer to a
comment inserted by <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Milton</st1:City></st1:place>
this morning as a perfect example of the sort of rudeness that this list could
well do without.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In response to a Jacqueline comment, <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Milton</st1:City></st1:place> responded:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>“</span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Well, all I
can say is that the reason most American business people are terrified of such voting
is that they conclude (more accurately than you, I am afraid) that such a
mechanism would empower the "new Internet world" of tens of millions
of Chinese and Indians and, in relative terms, erode their current power. ”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The “more accurately than you, I am
afraid” was deliberately provocative, added nothing to the discussion, came
with no evidence or reasoned analysis, and both mocked Jacqueline and dismissed
her honestly held viewpoint.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It has no place in reasonable discussions.
Which is a shame because <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Milton</st1:City></st1:place>
then went on to raise some interesting ideas about ALSes which I personally
would be happy to discuss but which I won’t respond to because of the
unpleasantness earlier in the email.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Kieren<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Avri Doria</st1:PersonName> [mailto:avri@psg.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, November 23, 2007
8:57 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Internet Governance Caucus<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [governance] Rudeness
tectics (was Re: Reinstate the Vote)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On 23 nov 2007, at 08.09, Norbert Bollow wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=1 face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:Helvetica'>Given that the use of rudeness
tectics against specific people with</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=1 face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:Helvetica'>the goal of reducing their
ability to effectively communicate their</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=1 face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:Helvetica'>viewpoints is a significant
problem in internet-based group</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=1 face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:Helvetica'>dosucssions, I would suggest that
it should be considered part of the</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=1 face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:Helvetica'>substance of internet governance
discussions to figure out how this</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=1 face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:Helvetica'>problem should be addressed.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>i think defining rudeness will be as difficult as defining morality.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>we would also need to study the use of accusations of rudeness<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>in their tactical role in internet discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>while i do think it would make for a interesting academic exercise and
if<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>i can find a student who also thinks it a cool subject would try to<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>support that research, i am not sure that it is quite ready to be
considered<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>a substantive part of the Internet Governance debate.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>a.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>ps, was this rude?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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