USAtizens also sounds good;)<br>As for the visa - that's something which, I hope, some of the US citizens experienced when entering Brazil - I guess their fingerprints were collected; same with my multiple-entry US visa. It is interesting that for some the fact that the US is the only major country, where less people have traveled to in 2006, compared to previous year, is not a good example how far away they are from the real problems.
<br>Just an example, which Larry Lessig gave 2 years ago in Bulgaria; he visited my country first time in 1980 or so. At the border they asked him to take everything out of his pockets, and asked him where is he going, and why.
<br>Today in the USA they take everything out of your pockets way before you land in the country, and even your shoes off. Then they take your fingerprints (and if you say "no", they will simply send you back), and then they may let you in the country.
<br><br>But at the same time, with one of the good working international tools, as is the Internet, some have ideas how to "fix it". And they just don't hear the other people, who try to humbly tell them there are more important issues in the world of the Internet than ICANN.
<br>Not only that; they even can tell you what you should be doing, and would not listen to you at all. And if you dare to defend your position, you will be blamed for all sins that exist, and may be for some new ones. <br>
<br>The country (US) needs a change, and perhaps we, who are not US-citizens, have to try to help, as long as what happens there influences many other countries. Educate people on this list, educate politicians, and make sure they listen. Without being rude, of course, no need of rude language like some of the non-US politicians use when refer to the US. Nobody wants to be insulted and I guess we don't want to insult, too.
<br><br>It would be good to see this, and think about it: <a href="http://blog.veni.com/?p=377">http://blog.veni.com/?p=377</a> and <a href="http://blog.veni.com/?p=375">http://blog.veni.com/?p=375</a><br><br>enjoy!<br><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 23, 2007 12:33 PM, Jacqueline A. Morris <<a href="mailto:jam@jacquelinemorris.com">jam@jacquelinemorris.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Exactly</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">And this discussion doesn't get our internet access pricing
changed from 256k down/56k up for US$100/month to something more
affordable and useful. But conversations with people in other parts of the
world who have been or currently are dealing with the same issue are very
useful – we get best practices, we get information to use in the
discussions at home and regionally. That's valuable to me, not
spending time arguing about who is on the Board of one of the many IGOs
that deal with various Internet issues and how they get there. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">BTW - I prefer Avri's term – Usians for
citizens of the USA - as a native of Central America, I am an American,
but I still need a visa to set foot in the USA. </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Wingdings; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">J</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Jacqueline</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> Veni Markovski
[mailto:<a href="mailto:veni@veni.com" target="_blank">veni@veni.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 23, 2007 13:24<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a>; Jacqueline A. Morris<div class="Ih2E3d"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [governance] Reinstate the Vote</div></span></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">Hi, Jacqueline, </p>
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<p>On Nov 23, 2007 12:04 PM, Jacqueline A. Morris <<a href="mailto:jam@jacquelinemorris.com" target="_blank">jam@jacquelinemorris.com</a>> wrote:</p>
<p>that I and the people I work with at home have a lot of
things to do that<br>
are not at all linked to a global vote in which our concerns will be a<br>
minority and won't impact our primary issues either.</p>
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<br>
There's another good proverb on that issue, "he whose belly is full,
believes not him who is fasting." <br>
For some of the Americans the issues about the Internet are related to
something, which some of them believe, is related to power. For the other
Netizens - we care about the price at which we get our Internet connection,
about the freedom of access, freedom of speech, etc. <br>
But some of the Americans, who take so many things for granted, just because
they happen to be born in the USA, we need to just try to educate them about
"the other world". <br>
<br>
I say "some of the Americans", because obviously not all of them are
like that (thanks, God!), but it is interesting that those are quite vocal,
while the others stay quiet. <br>
<br>
veni</p></div></div><div class="Ih2E3d">
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