<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV>Kieren:</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I'm quite surprised by you response.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>First - define people... An selected elite who actually know about IG issues, speak english and have access to the internet - or the "whole world" ?</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Pro-active engagement, consultation and - dialogue - with those voices missing from the discussion is much needed. While this space can provide a valuable venue for discussion - it can not be seen as the sole authoritative space in IG. Different cultures have different modes of expression. While some may feel quite comfortable posting on a public list - it is likely not the case for the majority. </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>What spaces do exist for dialogue, discussion and debate. hmm.. IGF perhaps?</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>regards</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Robert</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On 5-Oct-07, at 12:19 PM, Kieren McCarthy wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"> <O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"> <O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"> <DIV class="Section1"><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I agree with Ray on this, but I would like to know *<B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">why</SPAN></B>* people aren’t involving themselves in the open fora specifically constructed to gather the sort of input that they claiming is lacking.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P><BR></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></O:SMARTTAGTYPE></O:SMARTTAGTYPE></O:SMARTTAGTYPE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"><O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"><O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"><DIV class="Section1"><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">There is a surprising lack of candour about the realities of the situation considering the passion that exists out there.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></O:SMARTTAGTYPE></O:SMARTTAGTYPE></O:SMARTTAGTYPE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>