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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=843333206-05082007><FONT face=Arial
size=4>Dear Kwasi,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=843333206-05082007><FONT face=Arial
size=4>Well I am not sure, but something like:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=843333206-05082007><FONT face=Arial
size=4>Accessible and affordable programs?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=843333206-05082007><FONT face=Arial
size=4>Or:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=843333206-05082007><FONT face=Arial
size=4>Closing the ICT divide for PWD (persons with
disabilities)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=4></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=843333206-05082007><FONT face=Arial
size=4>Maybe Hiroshi has something better and shorter?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=4></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=843333206-05082007><FONT face=Arial
size=4>Yours</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=843333206-05082007><FONT face=Arial
size=4>Kicki </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P align=left><SPAN lang=sv><FONT face=Arial size=4>Kicki
Nordström<BR>Synskadades Riksförbund (SRF)</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=sv><FONT
face=Arial size=4>World Blind Union (WBU)<BR>122 88 Enskede<BR>Sweden<BR>Tel:
+46 (0)8 399 000<BR>Fax: +46 (0)8 725 99 20<BR>Cell: +46 (0)70 766 18
19<BR>E-mail: <A
href="mailto:kicki.nordstrom@srfriks.org">kicki.nordstrom@srfriks.org</A>
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<P><FONT size=4><FONT face=Arial>kicki.nordstrom@telia.com (private)</FONT>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>Från:</B> kwasi boakye-akyeampong
[mailto:kboakye1@yahoo.co.uk] <BR><B>Skickat:</B> den 2 augusti 2007
20:23<BR><B>Till:</B> governance@lists.cpsr.org; Kicki Nordström;
hkawa@attglobal.net<BR><B>Ämne:</B> Re: VB: SV: [governance] Fundamentally
broken design of society<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Hello Hiroshi,<BR><BR>Do you accept to co-ordinate things? What would
the name of the task force be?<BR><BR>Kicki, what name would you
propose?<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Kwasi<BR><BR><B><I>Kicki Nordström
<kicki.nordstrom@srfriks.org></I></B> wrote:
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">Dear
Hiroshi and all,<BR><BR>I am very thankful to Hiroshi Kawamura to volunteer to
lead a small group within the Governance network, on finding solutions on how
we could:<BR><BR>1. Make for instance Microsoft interested in a real effort to
cooperate with programmers who are specialists on adaptive applications and
application programs for persons with disabilities<BR>2. Make sure that the
costs for applications to other "commonly" used programs are integrated in the
price of those programs and do not carry extra costs for persons with
disabilities.<BR>3. How to get persons with disabilities from developing
countries able to access computer and free software with
applications.<BR><BR>Could this be the first task for a small working group on
this subject? <BR>All the best<BR>Kicki <BR><BR><BR>Kicki
Nordström<BR>Synskadades Riksförbund (SRF) <BR>World Blind Union (WBU)<BR>122
88 Enskede<BR>Sweden<BR>Tel: +46 (0)8 399 000<BR>Fax: +46 (0)8 725 99
20<BR>Cell: +46 (0)70 766 18 19<BR>E-mail: kicki.nordstrom@srfriks.org
<BR><BR>kicki.nordstrom@telia.com (private) <BR><BR><BR>-----Ursprungligt
meddelande-----<BR>Från: Hiroshi Kawamura [mailto:hkawa@attglobal.net]
<BR>Skickat: den 1 augusti 2007 22:05<BR>Till: Kicki Nordström; kwasi
boakye-akyeampong; governance@lists.cpsr.org<BR>Ämne: Re: SV: [governance]
Fundamentally broken design of society<BR><BR>Dear Kicky:<BR><BR>Nice to hear
from you always.<BR>Yes, the subject being discussed is exactly what I am
concerned.<BR>I am interested to join the list to share what we are doing and
thinking.<BR><BR>Best<BR><BR>Hiroshi<BR><BR>----- Original Message
-----<BR>From: "Kicki Nordström" <KICKI.NORDSTROM@SRFRIKS.ORG><BR>To: "kwasi
boakye-akyeampong" <KBOAKYE1@YAHOO.CO.UK>; <GOVERNANCE@LISTS.CPSR.ORG><BR>Cc:
<HKAWA@ATTGLOBAL.NET><BR>Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 8:51 PM<BR>Subject:
SV: SV: [governance] Fundamentally broken design of society<BR><BR><BR>Dear
Kwasi<BR><BR>Your comment and interest is very much appreciated. I hope
someone would like to lead such a group as I am unable to take on more right
now. However, I would very much like to be part of a group if someone is
facilitating the inputs.<BR><BR>I copy this to Hiroshi and hope he will join a
group together with some of us to look into recommendations of how we can
support accessible ICT for all persons without extra costs for
some!<BR><BR>warm regards<BR>Kicki<BR><BR><BR>Kicki Nordström<BR>Synskadades
Riksförbund (SRF)<BR>World Blind Union (WBU)<BR>122 88
Enskede<BR>Sweden<BR>Tel: +46 (0)8 399 000<BR>Fax: +46 (0)8 725 99 20<BR>Cell:
+46 (0)70 766 18 19<BR>E-mail:
kicki.nordstrom@srfriks.org<BR><BR>kicki.nordstrom@telia.com
(private)<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>________________________________<BR><BR>Från:
kwasi boakye-akyeampong [mailto:kboakye1@yahoo.co.uk]<BR>Skickat: den 31 juli
2007 20:06<BR>Till: governance@lists.cpsr.org; Kicki Nordström<BR>Ämne: Re:
SV: [governance] Fundamentally broken design of society<BR><BR><BR>Norbert,
Kikki,<BR><BR>I'd be part of any such initiative if you'd take it up. It will
be an opportunity for me to learn. Until Kikki threw the disability angle to
the digital divide debate, I, personally, had not given it much consideration
since it is something that is (if I'm not exagerating) totally ignored in the
developing world. I can at least say that for my country
Ghana.<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Kwasi<BR><BR>Kicki Nordström
<KICKI.NORDSTROM@SRFRIKS.ORG>wrote:<BR><BR>Dear Norbert.,<BR><BR>Maybe you are
absolutely right, we the civil society have to show the way forward! A group
of people could be assigned to discuss this matter, and there are, I think, a
network of persons with disabilities, linked to this list, (I hope) and we may
have just to address this network to put a group together?! Others may be
interested as well and should be welcome.<BR><BR>The group I am thinking of
was created at the first WSIS and with its side event, we have continued to
work on the resolution we adopted, wishing a ICT society open for ALL! The
resolution was further developed in Tunis at the second phase of WSIS and the
disability Forum hold the second side event.<BR><BR>I really hope something
will happen now so as we can move this issue a bit further!<BR><BR>Thanks
Norbert., for your good initiative, do you mind to take the
lead?<BR>Yours<BR>Kicki<BR><BR>Kicki Nordström<BR>Synskadades Riksförbund
(SRF)<BR>World Blind Union (WBU)<BR>122 88 Enskede<BR>Sweden<BR>Tel: +46 (0)8
399 000<BR>Fax: +46 (0)8 725 99 20<BR>Cell: +46 (0)70 766 18 19<BR>E-mail:
kicki.nordstrom@srfriks.org<BR><BR>kicki.nordstrom@telia.com
(private)<BR><BR><BR>-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----<BR>Från: Norbert Bollow
[mailto:nb@bollow.ch]<BR>Skickat: den 31 juli 2007 18:23<BR>Till:
governance@lists.cpsr.org<BR>Ämne: [governance] Fundamentally broken design of
society<BR><BR>Dear Kicki,<BR>I very strongly agree with your assertion that
the real problem lies with a fundamentally broken design of
society!<BR><BR>(Note: The following sentence is perhaps a bit complicated,
but it can be safely ignored by all but the most pedantic of readers.<BR>In
the above statement, I understand "design of society" to mean both the
currently existing system by means of which society as a whole is composed out
of a very large number of sub-systems, as well the way in which the decisions
are made by means of which society as a whole is allowed
to<BR>evolve.)<BR><BR>Now the question arises, how can this fundamental
brokenness be fixed?<BR><BR>Certainly it is not possible for society as a
whole to get fixed all at once!<BR><BR>So the best that can be done, in my
opinion, is to start small, get a small but diverse group of people together
(electronically, by means of a mailing<BR>list) who agree on wanting to figure
out how a subsystem of society can be constructed which avoids the kind of
fundamental "design of society" flaws that result in the production of
_disabling_ software. I'm sure that when we figure out how to produce, within
such a subsystem of society, computer software which is not disabling but
rather empowering for everyone, that kind of software is going to be a
commercial success also with the large number of computer users who are not
particularly interested in "design of society" problems.<BR><BR>What do you
think?<BR><BR>Gruss,<BR>Norbert.<BR><BR><BR>--<BR>Norbert Bollow
http://Norbert.ch<BR>Präsident der Swiss Internet User Group SIUG
http://SIUG.ch Die SIUG engagiert sich für den Schutz der Privatsphäre und
dafür, dass auch in Zukunft das Internet auf offenen Standards
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