<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 5/31/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Karl Auerbach</b> <<a href="mailto:karl@cavebear.com">karl@cavebear.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>I tend to feel rather uncomfortable with your formulation because it<br>doesn't seem to include people.</blockquote><div><br><br>Agreed <br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
For example, your formulation excludes me.</blockquote><div><br>and me <br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">As you know, I do not believe that any aggregation - whether we call it
<br>a corporation, a government, a "stakeholder", an NGO, or "civil society"<br>- ought not to have automatic recognition as being anything more than a<br>convenient means for people to aggregate their individual opinions and
<br>views.<br><br>It is always useful to hear the opinions expressed via these aggregates.<br> And it is true that many, perhaps most, people will chose (usually<br>through inaction) to let some aggregate express an opinion on their behalf.
<br><br>But when it comes down making choices and measuring "consensus" (or some<br>other more concrete measure), in other words when it comes to counting<br>noses, we ought to count real noses on real people and not some
<br>hypothetical and arbitrary notion that these aggregations actually speak<br>with authority.</blockquote><div><br><br>Absolutely! <br></div><br></div>-- <br>Cheers,<br><br>McTim<br>$ whois -h <a href="http://whois.afrinic.net">
whois.afrinic.net</a> mctim<br>