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<DIV><SPAN class=285231014-13052007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Kieren </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=285231014-13052007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=285231014-13052007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
guess,there is an obvious question in light of what you admit following
CIRA, is a seriously flawed process.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=285231014-13052007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=285231014-13052007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Why
not postpone or cancel this one and set up a process that isn't
flawed, and that does follow the OECD guidelines? </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=285231014-13052007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=285231014-13052007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>This
would, I think, go quite some way to satisfying the concerns that you have
expressed about the possible nature of this discussion, fixing what might be a
very contentious (and even delegitimized) process, and responding to
the publicly expressed concerns of a very significant stakeholder
in ICANN i.e. CIRA. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=285231014-13052007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=285231014-13052007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>That
will take this process out of the realm of "trust me" and "we'll do better next
time", and into a framework of public accountability and widely
acceptable legitimacy.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=285231014-13052007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=285231014-13052007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>MG</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Kieren McCarthy
[mailto:kierenmccarthy@gmail.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> May 13, 2007 3:32
AM<BR><B>To:</B> governance@lists.cpsr.org; 'Michael
Gurstein'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [governance] ICANN RFC on its
performance<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I agree, I think
Bernie Turcotte’s response raises a very valid point and I will be pushing to
have the OECD principles he refers to adopted by ICANN in future
consultations. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Nonetheless, we do
have this RFC in progress and so my point and the reason for my post is to
encourage people to take it seriously. Put
simply:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: navy; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The RFC is serious – please
respond<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: navy; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I will – as general manager of
public participation – push to have this issue discussed
openly<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="COLOR: navy; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If people interact and there are
useful results, I will make sure that those views are heard at all
appropriate levels in ICANN<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT> </LI></OL>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">People complain ICANN
isn’t transparent or accountable enough. Well, I’ve just stated what I will
do, and I have just made myself directly accountable. Take me up on
it.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Kieren<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Michael
Gurstein [mailto:gurstein@gmail.com] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Saturday, May 12, 2007 11:19
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">governance@lists.cpsr.org</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [governance] ICANN RFC on
its performance</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In the context of
this discussion folks might be interested to take note of the comments made by
CIRA (the folks who look after the .ca domain) in response to the
ICANN questionnaire.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A
href="http://cira.ca/news-releases/201.html">http://cira.ca/news-releases/201.html</A></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">MG</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> William
Drake [mailto:drake@hei.unige.ch] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> May 12, 2007 11:26 AM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Governance<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [governance] ICANN RFC on
its performance</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi Kieren,<BR><BR>Just one
perhaps unusual (and given the comments that will probably ensue, somewhat
off topic) thought. You suggest that, “the idea of discussing ICANN at
the IGF is, I assume, in order to draw attention to the elements of the
ICANN model that people don’t think are working properly.” That’s one
idea, but there are other possibilities in such a dialogue, including
highlighting the bits that do work relatively well, and considering whether
these offer any generalizable lessons worth applying elsewhere. For
example, long ago and far away, the WGIG did a little exercise where we
tried to look at how some of the key organizations did or didn’t comply with
the WSIS principles. When we compared ITU and ICANN it became
immediately evident that the latter was more transparent and inclusively
participatory/multistakeholder, which made the notion of somehow
transferring functions to the ITU even more patently indefensible, and it
disappeared from the debate. Proponents of intergovernmental
‘oversight’ were then left to propose various sorts new councils etc. that
were plainly not going to go anywhere. <BR><BR>An instinctive ‘circle
the wagons’ response to proposals for mere discussion may be as contrary to
ICANN’s long-term interests as it is to preferences of ICANN’s critics.
Why not view this as an unique opportunity tell ICANN’s story and
carpe diem, rather than shutting it down? And BTW, while there are
undoubtedly people with grievances “that are rapidly becoming historical,”
that’s not what the caucus is proposing to talk about. We deleted the
history language long ago and suggested discussion of, “ICANN's status
as an international organization, its representation of various
constituencies and stakeholders, and the changing role of the GAC within
ICANN,” which are forward looking topics.<BR><BR>Best,<BR><BR>Bill<BR><BR>On
5/12/07 4:26 PM, "Kieren McCarthy" <kierenmccarthy@gmail.com>
wrote:</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I recognise that
raising this may be the online equivalent of throwing a lump of meat to a
pack of starving wolves, but then *<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">not
raising it</SPAN></B>* seemed more stupid to me because of the depth of
knowledge and expertise on this list.<BR> <BR>ICANN has put out a
Request for Comments on its performance. And since this list seems to
discuss little else, I really think you should review it and get involved.
<BR> <BR>Taking my newly acquired ICANN hat off for a second, the idea
of discussing ICANN at the IGF is, I assume, in order to draw attention to
the elements of the ICANN model that people don’t think are working
properly. There are some genuine grievances there and it’s understandable
that people would wish them raised at the Internet Governance Forum. I would
argue however that most of these grievances are rapidly becoming historical,
and that is the reason why the IGF will likely not discuss
them.<BR> <BR>For those people that are driven solely by a desire to
improve the Internet and its functioning – and I think it’s a real shame
that you can’t simply assume that – one of the most effective ways of doing
that will be to work within ICANN’s self-changing processes.
<BR> <BR>ICANN hat back on (yes, it was off for that last paragraph).
The RFC is out there for public comment. It is structured around a series of
questions about how ICANN is doing and how it has done (I will list them
below). <BR> <BR>I am ICANN’s general manager of public participation.
That means I consider it *<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">my
job</SPAN></B>* to encourage participation and input from the Internet
community. I also consider it my job to make sure that input is heard at the
relevant levels within ICANN.<BR> <BR>I am sure this post will attract
the usual personal insults but my record stands for itself when it comes to
publicly raising issues in this field. I would request that people make use
of that.<BR> <BR>Let me make it quite plain though, the RFC is not
about rolling out the usual fantasies about how ICANN can be restructured,
or moaning about something that happened three or more years ago. As far as
ICANN is concerned, those days are over and now it is all about getting the
job done. So any feedback that focuses on helping ICANN get the job done
will be gratefully received. Plus feedback on recent changes in ICANN – if
ICANN is going along the right path. Do provide your views with as many
facts as possible. They will be listened to.<BR> <BR>If you do not want
to provide this sort of feedback, for whatever reason, then please do not
waste your time and mine writing a diatribe and then expect it to be
included in discussions. You can continue trying to get your issues raised
outside ICANN. For those that want to provide ICANN with a helpful outside
perspective however, please do respond.<BR> <BR>The deadline is 5 June.
If there is enough material on ICANN’s sites on 6 June (note: not on this
governance mailing list – I will not be considering material in response to
this post) to justify it, I will put in a request for a meeting at San Juan
where we can discuss this topic openly and freely and I’ll stick myself in
as the organiser. I will then produce a report on what is discussed and I
will make sure that everyone in ICANN knows about it, from the receptionist
to the CEO. But that’s only if the material is useful and if there is enough
of it. If it is, as I fear it will be, the usual rants with a smattering of
other comments, I have plenty of other things to take up my
time.<BR> <BR>So, that RFC:<BR> <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt">As part of an ongoing interest in
continuous improvement, ICANN is seeking community feedback about its
performance. <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt">All responses are welcome. Targeted
comments regarding several areas of performance, which have been drawn from
the ICANN Strategic Plan, are of particular
interest:</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<LI class=MsoNormal
style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt">Is ICANN
becoming more transparent, accessible and accountable? What improvements
have been observed and what still needs to be done?</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p>
<LI class=MsoNormal
style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt">Has ICANN
improved its operational performance? What improvements have been observed
and what still needs to be done?</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p>
<LI class=MsoNormal
style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt">Has ICANN
improved its performance in the development of Policy? What improvements
have been observed and what still needs to be done?</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p>
<LI class=MsoNormal
style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt">Has ICANN
increased international participation? What improvements have been
observed and what still needs to be done?</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p>
<LI class=MsoNormal
style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt">Have there
been improvements in participation and in efficiency of the ICANN
multi-stakeholder model? What more needs to be done?</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p>
<LI class=MsoNormal
style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt">What plans
and actions have been observed that position ICANN for more comprehensive
transition of the technical coordination of the Internet’s system of
unique identifiers. What more needs to be done?</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p>
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style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt">What
improvements have been made in dispute resolution and the application of
fairness and equity in the management of complaints and other mechanisms
of review that are available? These include the work of the
reconsideration committee, the Ombudsman and independent
review.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></LI></UL>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9.5pt">Comments will be received at <A
href="http://forum.icann.org/lists/performance-2007/">http://forum.icann.org/lists/performance-2007/</A>
until June 5, 2007 and should be sent to:
performance-2007@icann.org.<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR> <BR>You
can see this announcement here: <A
href="http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-08may07.htm">http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-08may07.htm</A><BR> <BR>I
have also put up a blog post about it (open to comments) here: <A
href="http://blog.icann.org/?p=125">http://blog.icann.org/?p=125</A><BR> <BR>And
I have created a page on the Public Participation site (wide open and proud
of it) here: <A
href="http://public.icann.org/issues/performance">http://public.icann.org/issues/performance</A><BR> <BR>Feel
free to discuss freely on the Public Participation site. If you want a
chatroom for it, just ask. If you want a structured forum page for it, just
ask.<BR> <BR>And please do spread the news of this RFC as far and as
wide as you can.<BR> <BR> <BR>Cheers. See you all in <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Geneva</st1:place></st1:City> in a few
weeks.<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR>Kieren<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR> <BR>Kieren
McCarthy<BR>General manager of public participation,
ICANN<BR> <BR>kieren.mccarthy@icann.org<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> </SPAN></FONT><FONT
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