<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">I'm subscribed to the coalition list , and don't think i've seen any postings in a while.<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>perhaps i'm not on the list. must check..<BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>regards,</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Robert</DIV><DIV>---</DIV><DIV>Robert Guerra <<A href="mailto:rguerra@privaterra.org">rguerra@privaterra.org</A>></DIV><DIV>Managing Director, Privaterra</DIV><DIV>Tel +1 416 893 0377</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On 13-Feb-07, at 4:05 PM, David Allen wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <DIV>Here's a post prepared late in the session, on this subject. (The opening paras ping from comments made earlier in the session. Incidentally, only VLC would pull in the stream for any period of time.)</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite" cite="">We were tempted to take advantage of asynchronous options, with a Geneva morning the middle of the night here. Yes, in remote participation, time differences are one of the differences.</BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite" cite=""><BR> And we would take a static connection any time - static, anyway, if it didn't constantly ask to be re-started. Ain't technology wonderful?! Especially when it is still a little bit a beta release.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite" cite="">To be a little more serious: We suggest serious thinking about what real participation is possible, when participants are remote. To listen, and even watch (if the link stays up), is a pleasure. It is a different matter when it comes to making an intervention in the meeting. Or, when it comes to (wanting to) talk to colleagues in the corridor.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite" cite="">Two-way video is an established tool today - and with bandwidth, even easy to do. But that is a step beyond where we are in IGF infrastructure. And many would-be remote participants will not have the bandwidth.</BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite" cite=""><BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite" cite="">If we do not go to two-way video - and I would be surprised if we do - we suggest serious thought about our expectations for remote participation and just how to configure it.</BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>What we actually can enable, for participation, is going to be a useful topic.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>I expect most are aware that Jeremy Malcolm, with Kieren McCarthy, have got a dynamic coalition on the subject <A href="http://igf2006.info/wiki/IGF-OCDC">http://igf2006.info/wiki/IGF-OCDC</A> intended to be hands-on and helpful. Kieren presented on the coalition, the first comments in the afternoon.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>David</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>At 3:19 PM -0500 2/13/07, John Mathiason wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite" cite="">I also tried to get the video of the afternoon session but got an error message (bad request). It would be important to fix these glitches before Rio. I agree with the other posters that if we can make the IGF connected (and this may require different software than was used), we have a reasonable chance of engaging stakeholders who can't afford to travel.</BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite" cite=""><BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite" cite="">Regards,</BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite" cite=""><BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite" cite="">John<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite" cite="">On Feb 13, 2007, at 10:31 AM, Izumi AIZU wrote:</BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite" cite=""><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite" cite="">Dear Nitin and all IGFers,<BR> <BR> Congratulations for all of you who are now in Geneva at<BR> IGF consulation meeting and I appreciate your effort<BR> to extend the meeting in the remote participation<BR> channel.<BR> <BR> However, sorry to say, that the quality of the webcast<BR> is far from pragmatic, the voice was cut so often that<BR> it is not possible to keep the concentration and<BR> make good understandings of what is going on.<BR> <BR> I don't mean this is sort of criticism, but just a reality<BR> check. 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