<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi,<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Thanks for your suggestion.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>As I mentioned earlier, the reason I was making my suggestion was because I thought that the IGC was in a transition state that required re-organization. I also indicated that I would only be willing to take the role if there was consensus on the proposal for ways to move ahead.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I do not believe that the status quo in the IGC is workable, and I don't believe that the old way of picking coordinators works. True I was asking for consensus on a transition role in order to facilitate reorganization but I was not asking to be chosen coordinator in the old way of acclimation. That is why I put forward a proposal that required full consensus before I wouls assume the role of coordinator.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>But I accept that other participants have a different viewpoint. As several have indicated already there is a preference for picking 2 co-coordinators and moving forward as we have in the past, I take that to mean that there is not consensus on the suggestion I offered and that there is not a strong feeling that we need to reorganize before we can move ahead. </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I accept that and might even accept Bill as an IGC coordinator in your sort of proposal - assuming it finds consensus. I am not, however, interested in serving in that circumstance and decline participation in any slate of co-cos. I also do not think that having a discussion between Bill and myself is the way to resolve the identity and methods of the IGC.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>At this point, I think it is important for the IGC to figure out what, if anything, we can reach consensus on.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>thanks</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>a.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On 22 apr 2006, at 11.48, David Allen wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <DIV><FONT size="2"><DIV style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><FONT face="Arial" size="3">Let me make a suggestion here.</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><O:P><FONT face="Arial" size="3"> </FONT></O:P></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><FONT face="Arial" size="3">If the caucus can declare a coordinator by acclamation (or consensus or whatever set of words fit), then it can do so for co-coordinators.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In fact, co-coordinators would seem most suited to the circumstances.</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><O:P><FONT face="Arial" size="3"> </FONT></O:P></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><FONT face="Arial" size="3">Co-coordinators are in the (brief) tradition of the caucus.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If one person is to be selected in a special way, certainly two can be selected.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>With this as the tradition it seems we even need the balance of co-coordinators, if there is to be special consensus selection.</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><O:P><FONT face="Arial" size="3"> </FONT></O:P></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><FONT face="Arial" size="3">But far and away most important, there is already a proposal before the caucus, requesting two people to take the helm at this special moment:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Avri and Bill.</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><O:P><FONT face="Arial" size="3"> </FONT></O:P></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><FONT face="Arial" size="3">I am traveling and unable to search my archive. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But I know there is one post already, asking Bill and Avri to step forward.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I am all but certain there is more than one post.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The proposition is on the table, and the suggestion here only reminds us.</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><O:P><FONT face="Arial" size="3"> </FONT></O:P></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><FONT face="Arial" size="3">Then the caucus does not have immediately to adopt provisions such as staggered terms or nominating committees and elections.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We see, in posts just the last little bit, there are natural questions raised to discuss these matters.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Instead, Avri and Bill can have a productive dialog between themselves, and with the caucus, to reach considered conclusions.</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><O:P><FONT face="Arial" size="3"> </FONT></O:P></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><FONT face="Arial" size="3">For instance, continuity for the caucus seems to turn more on cohesion in the group, than on mechanisms such as staggered terms.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But such structural arrangements might still be helpful (or not).<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Two people, to whom the caucus has already turned, can see that discussion through, to an effective conclusion.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If there turns out to be a need to stagger remaining terms of these two consensus coordinators, that can be sorted out too.</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><O:P><FONT face="Arial" size="3"> </FONT></O:P></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><FONT face="Arial" size="3">Likewise the selection process to be used later can get suitable consideration. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But especially, a host of other matters that shape cohesion and effectiveness will have the benefit of two whom the caucus has already turned to.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As discussed by others, this is a special time when the caucus might outfit itself to be an effective partner in the IGF and other, related governance pursuits.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The caucus can, and it seems is well advised to, take advantage of the leadership of two it has already identified.</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><O:P><FONT face="Arial" size="3"> </FONT></O:P></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><FONT face="Arial" size="3">Then Avri especially is due very special thanks, for bootstrapping such a desirable outcome.</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><O:P><FONT face="Arial" size="3"> </FONT></O:P></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><FONT face="Arial" size="3">David</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">governance mailing list</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="https://ssl.cpsr.org/mailman/listinfo/governance">https://ssl.cpsr.org/mailman/listinfo/governance</A></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>