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<p class=MsoPlainText><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><font size=2
color=blue face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>Milton</span></font></st1:place></st1:City><font
color=blue><span style='color:blue'>,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>>> Parminder I think it's healthy for
you, especially, to be confronted with >>some honest and well-considered
challenges to your ideological viewpoints.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>I have no problem with ideological debates,
in fact I have been asking for them on this list. The issue here started with
your impatience with Meryem's mention of some ideological issues.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>>>I don't understand the relevance of
this. You don't need to introduce <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>>>ideological debates about what
"rights" are in order to justify a role <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>>>for HR>>>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>And then, your pictorial treatment of the
right to development would have brought strong reactions from anyone involved
in the theory and practice of development. If you still think my reaction was
too strong, picture making similar derogatory statements on this list on issues
like MSP, or right to privacy, and wait for reactions. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>>>Let's be clear. Development is a
good thing. The issue is how to get there. I am challenging the notion that
asserting >>a "right to development" contributes to development
in any meaningful way.>>>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>How to get it there – yes,
that’s the question, and in development thinking the role of state is
considered very important for this purpose. This directly implicates the issue
of strong obligations on the state, which brings in the language of rights.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>Political thinking is evolutionary - and
new issues get cast in terms of rights. The right to development is now an
accepted formulation of a set of obligations of various actors - chiefly the
state, but also various inter-state mechanisms(that’s why I used the term
'global systems'). So I really do not understand what problem you have with
casting such development obligations on the political actors in strong terms
(as rights). You really didn’t clarify that. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>And I don’t see why I need to begin a
discourse on this list on the 'right to development' which is a well theorized
subject. But since you have raised issues like moral posturing, lack of clarity
of thinking etc, and challenged whether anyone can translate this concept of
'right to development' into something real and discrete, let me try to answer
you briefly on these issues. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>Looking at the examples of what you think
could be construed 'legitimately' as rights, I am inclined to see that you
mostly consider 'negative rights' as acceptable but not so the 'positive
rights'...... And this conception has to do with the political ideology of what
one thinks is the legitimate role of the state. It is difficult to get into a
debate here on this other than to mention that 'development' thinking
necessarily sees much greater positive intervention by the state than such a
restrictive conception of rights and the role of the state allows. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>>> Please tell me, if someone in a
poor country, say <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Sudan</st1:place></st1:country-region>,
petitions a nation state (or something as vague as a "global system")
for their "right to development" what are they petitioning for? who
will give it to them?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>Now, I can understand where your above
conception comes from - you understand development in terms of macro level
economic growth - so you find it silly for someone to do something like try to
enforce a right that her economy should grow at, say, 8 percent. If you have
referred to the literature on the concept of development, or even to the
conception of right to development (that Meryem pointed you to) you will have
seen that the concept of development goes much beyond macro level economic
growth. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>>> Perhaps you could give me a
specific example of how a right to development would be claimed, adjudicated
and enforced. I suspect you will have a difficult time.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>Contrary to what you suspect it is not at
all difficult task. For anyone who as much as reads the daily newspaper in
India knows that at least three distinct 'rights' have been decreed officially
in India, over just the last two years. Right to information, right to
education, and right to work. All these are 'positive rights', with strong
‘development’ implications, and cast strong and enforceable
obligations on the state.(and if you want further details on how these rights
are claimed and enforced, I can share them with you.)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>And all these rights can be directly
derived from the broad language of the 'right to development' as adopted by the
international community..... <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>And these rights have followed strong
advocacy and grassroots movements, and represent important milestones for
development ideology (before you trash them again, please relate these 'rights'
to the similar obligations that almost all 'welfare states' of the North
already fulfill.) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>While arranging rights neatly into
generational categories do serve some analytical purposes, I do not completely
accept the hierarchy implied in saying that the second and third generation
rights came into being in order to create conditions for fulfillment of the
first generation rights. There is a big debate in development theory about how
such perspectives may have differing validities in cases of extreme poverty,
which is still very widespread. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>The use of the 'rights' terminology in new
areas represents political evolution of our civilization, and new concepts and
descriptions in this area - like the right to development - often represent
elaborations upon, as well as an additions to, what was included in the earlier
generation of rights.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>'Rights' also signify some significant
areas/ issues on which a widespread acceptance and relative unanimity (at least
in principle) of the world community is achieved. Still, I am not averse to an
honest and open discussion of even these issues, but the manner in which the
'right to development' was rubbished offhand by you, represents to me a great
insensitivity. (like your comment – “Or is the right to development
just a request for a bag of cash?”)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>Could you have spoken about the human
rights of political freedom, personal liberty etc in a similar fashion??<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>A ‘rights’ based language also
helps open up new spaces for strengthening political claims – and such
claims often arise in CS spaces. WSIS was characterized with CS claims for a
set of ‘communication rights’. While such claims may need to go
through some evolutionary changes, and adjustments, CS spaces are generally
associated with such progressive notions and advocacies. That was the reason
for my wonderment on regressive debates on right to development on this list. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>I am also laboring these points because
they have direct relevance to the mandate and future of this caucus. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>Clarity on such basic political
orientations is necessary to build the context of what really are we seeking
here from our engagements with IG. Whether a positive interventionist role of
global IG structures for using the power of Internet technologies to further
development is strongly sought by the civil society constituency represented on
this list is an issue that needs to be clarified. And whether such a role will
be sought on terms of charity and moral appeals, or of self-interest based
negotiations (if you do so and so it will also be useful to you in such and
such manner), or as a matter of right of the under-developed and disadvantaged
communities and groups (as a part of their ‘right to development’)
is an important political issue in IG. This caucus needs to have its position
clear on this. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>>>>If you want to claim the mantle
of "civil society" you'd better get used to the idea that _real_ CS
is vast and >>diverse - ideologically as well as culturally, politically,
etc. >>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>While the manner in which IG and the
development connection will be interpreted in specific contexts is an issue
that is open to debate and contestation, for me the overall issue of the
whether the governance of the Internet will pro-actively be used to promote
development and the ‘right to development’ (as adopted by the
international community, and as it works out in various local contexts) is not
negotiable. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>I hope I have made my position clear. I
request you also to make your position clear on the IG and development
connection. This debate is important for the IG caucus. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>Parminder <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>PS: I also want to make it clear once more
– because I expect a typical response to this demand for putting IG in
the development context – that by this demand we do not mean that the IG
Forum should be used as another good place for open ended discussion on IPR,
open source, community networks etc. That will be quite wasteful, and
that’s not what is being demanded here. A development agenda in IG means
that all issues of IG must be seen and judged from the perspective of
development – and if you like, in terms of ‘right to development’
– and this should remain a strong focus of CS involved in the IG, and of
the IGF. And we need not repeat the debates and arguments here about how no
technology and no techno-social phenomenon is neutral in terms of its
‘developmental’ impact. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Milton Mueller [mailto:Mueller@syr.edu] <br>
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:25 PM<br>
To: parminder@itforchange.net; governance@lists.cpsr.org; marzouki@ras.eu.org<br>
Subject: Re: [governance] right to development, the structure of IGCand IG
issues for march deadline<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>>>> "Parminder"
<parminder@itforchange.net> 3/7/2006 4:14 AM >>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Milton</st1:place></st1:City>,
I am sorry to say this, but your rubbishing of the 'right to<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>>development' is alarming for someone
who often leads CS interventions <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>>in IG consultations. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>Parminder I think it's healthy for you,
especially, to be confronted with some honest and well-considered challenges to
your ideological viewpoints. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>Let's be clear. Development is a good
thing. The issue is how to get there. I am challenging the notion that
asserting a "right to development" contributes to development in any
meaningful way. I haven't heard any convincing arguments from you to the
contrary, yet. And -- sorry -- I am not going to let you substitute moral
posturing for clear thinking. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>>And ideological debates are not
un-necessary - they are the very basis of<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>>what we are doing here. The
de-politicizing of IG debates is the reason of<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>>much of the exclusion (or keeping away)
of many actors from these lists/<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>>discussion spaces. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>My friend, we are having an ideological
debate, right now. And it is you who are attempting to short-circuit serious
debate by implying that my comments are outside the proper bounds of civil
society discourse. By all means, let us have an ideological debate. Don't accuse
me of being the obstacle.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>>And the right of development should be
'enforceable' by individuals and<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>>communities against all kinds of
political entities - from nation states, to<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>>global systems. That was what we have
been trying to do at WSIS, but you<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>>seem to have very different views.....<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>Perhaps you could give me a specific
example of how a right to development would be claimed, adjudicated and
enforced. I suspect you will have a difficult time. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>I understand what it means when, e.g.,
indigenous people claim that their lands should not be expropriated or
polluted, but these are not "development rights" but simple
assertions of property rights. I understand what enforcing such a right would
mean: return of the lands to their rightful owners/stewards, or cessation of
the pollution, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>I understand what it means when people
claim that they should not be imprisoned for political dissent, or held in
jails without due process, habeus corpus and other well-established procedural
rights. I understand what enforcing such a right would mean: release from
prison; avoidance of interference with their expression, adherence to
procedural standards, etc. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>I understand what it means when people
claim that protecting copyright or patent rights are inimical to the
development of certain LDCs. I understand the counter-claims as well (that
failure to protect those rights will reduce investment in technology). Whatever
side you take on that question, framing the issue as a debate over
"rights" makes sense, and it is clear how the rights would be
asserted and enforced. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>Please tell me, if someone in a poor
country, say <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Sudan</st1:place></st1:country-region>,
petitions a nation state (or something as vague as a "global system")
for their "right to development" what are they petitioning for? who
will give it to them? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>Is it a change in the government's monetary
policy? An increase or decrease in the state's budget or debt? More investment
in education? or should that money be placed in science and technology? Are
they saying that the current pricing of energy should be changed? Up or
down--which price movement will have better long-term consequences for the
development of the economy? All such changes would affect a society's
development. All would interact in complex ways. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>Or is the right to development just a
request for a bag of cash? Is that all you mean? If so, is that really
"development," or just a static transfer of wealth? If you give the bag
of cash to that person, what about the other 800 million people who'd also like
one? Where does the cash come from? What other activities, investments, people
will it be taken away from? Are you sure you have enough to supply alll the
claimed "development" rights? What if some of the people who get the
bag of cash handle it unwisely? Do they get to petition for another one, based
on their right to development? How will the people who saved theirs and made it
grow react to that? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>Really, I am quite curious to learn more
about how a "right to development" is articulated, claimed and
enforced. Perhaps you can fill me in with some specifics. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>>What is it that we really share to be
working as a group. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>>At no other CS forum or grouping at
global advocacy level have I <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>>seen such a lack of clarity on the bare
minimum basic unifying ideological <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>>issues. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>If you want to claim the mantle of
"civil society" you'd better get used to the idea that _real_ CS is
vast and diverse - ideologically as well as culturally, politically, etc. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>Dr. Milton Mueller<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on"><font
size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:blue'>Syracuse</span></font></st1:PlaceName><font color=blue><span
style='color:blue'> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">School</st1:PlaceType></span></font></st1:place><font color=blue><span
style='color:blue'> of Information Studies<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>http://www.digital-convergence.org<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>http://www.internetgovernance.org<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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