<div>Dear Parminder,</div>
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 11/9/05, <b class="gmail_sendername">Parminder</b> <<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">parminder@itforchange.net</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><br>Any agency finally has to be<br>located in one country or the other - and therefore has to have a host
<br>country arrangement.<br></blockquote></div>
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<div>I would just like to mention that the World Wide Web Consortium that handles standard setting for the Web around Tim Berners-Lee has no single location and no structure but uses multiple HOST ENTITIES agreements (not host countries).
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<div>The initial setting up of W3C was done through three separate agreements : with MIT, with INRIA in France and Keio University in Japan. It is now hosted by MIT (US), ERCIM (France) and Keio (Japan, with 15 offices around the world. More information at :
<a href="http://www.w3.org/Consortium/">http://www.w3.org/Consortium/</a></div>
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<div>I know some actors resent the relatively closed nature of the W3C (a Consortium) that constrast with the open nature of IETF. But for the discussion at stake, the example shows that innovations can also exist in structures. The only solution to any international problem is not the UN model of one Agency in one country with diplomats attending meetings. More lightweight and distributed frameworks can be imagined and work effectively. As a matter of fact, had ICANN be set up in a more distributed manner in the first place - or at least have evolved in the first years or its existence - many of the symbolically-loaded problems we are facing today would probably have been reduced.
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<div>But the whole discussion within WSIS never mentions the W3C. Probably because they did not participate. As a matter of fact, during a discussion a few months ago, Jean-François Abramatic, who was the first Chairman of W3C, told me that the W3C could not be accredited as a CS entity to WSIS precisely because it was not a formal structure. They found it so ironic that they decided not to participate, even under the umbrella of another accredited entity.
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<div>My two cents</div>
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<div>Bertrand <br><br> </div>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><br><br>Parminder<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:governance-bounces@lists.cpsr.org">
governance-bounces@lists.cpsr.org</a><br>[mailto:<a href="mailto:governance-bounces@lists.cpsr.org">governance-bounces@lists.cpsr.org</a>] On Behalf Of Adam Peake<br>(<a href="mailto:ajp@glocom.ac.jp">ajp@glocom.ac.jp</a>
)<br>Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 10:19 PM<br>To: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a><br>Subject: [governance] more Re: Ideas that this mailing list has agreed to<br><br>And this is OK, or not acceptable:
<br><br>"Appropriate commitments by a host government should provide<br>privileges and immunities to ICANN to ensure that it is able to<br>provide global service in accordance with its bylaws and mission. Such<br>binding commitments should ensure that:
<br><br>* decisions taken by ICANN cannot be overturned by any single government;<br>* all countries and stakeholders have the opportunity to access the<br>resources managed by ICANN and its related entities;<br>* ICANN is able to enter into commercial and other agreements in
<br>keeping with requirements of its bylaws and mission, enabling it to<br>provide and receive DNS services globally, and<br>* all stakeholders have the opportunity to participate in ICANN's<br>Internet governance processes, without being affected by the policies
<br>of any single government."<br><br>(I would like to change "host government", best to remove all<br>suggestion of a host country agreement which I believe would be a<br>problematic term for many governments.)
<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Adam<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>governance mailing list<br><a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a><br><a href="https://ssl.cpsr.org/mailman/listinfo/governance">
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