<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>hi,<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><DIV><DIV>On 7 nov 2005, at 03.04, Parminder wrote:</DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; ">But that precisely is the big question. We cant say we have done everything else, only this little detail is left. The whole issue of political oversight hinges on sorting this question. Please see my other mail on this issue to the IG list. We cant submit a CS position without sorting out and agreeing on this ‘mother of issues’.</SPAN><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; ">If we can agree on having a legitimate political body do the external oversight, after it is taken away from the US – then I am in complete agreement with all the text in the draft on the needed reform in ICANN…..</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>I think this is exactly the point we cannot come to agreement on. We have those who insist on no government external oversight, those who are willing to allow some government over sight as peers to other stakeholders, and those who would hand full political oversight over to governments or inter-governmental organizations. I do not believe we can resolve that issue and don't think we can make any recommendations on it.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I did have the hope, that perhaps we could agree on the degree and form of external political oversight without needing to actually decide on who would wield it.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Additionally, I don't see how it can be taken away from the USG except by creation of a new domain name system. For the current DNS, I think we need to find a solution that they can accept aand willingly hand over control to. I think that this real-politic has to constrain the solution space we explore.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>a.</DIV></BODY></HTML>