<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><SPAN style=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 21.3333px;"><B><FONT class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; font-weight: normal;"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000102">Raboy Marc posting </FONT></SPAN></FONT></B></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 21.3333px;"><I><FONT class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000102">Fri, 30 Sep 2005 10:31:19 –0400</FONT></SPAN></FONT></I></SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times-Italic" size="6"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 21.3333px;"><I><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#2F90FF"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#293EFF"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000102"><O:P style=""></O:P></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></I></SPAN></FONT></SPAN><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;tab-stops:28.0pt 56.0pt 84.0pt 112.0pt 140.0pt 168.0pt 196.0pt 224.0pt 3.5in 280.0pt 308.0pt 336.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><SPAN style=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 21.3333px;"><I><FONT class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000102">Re:</FONT></SPAN></FONT></I></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17.3333px;"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000102"> RE: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Canada's proposal on IG forum - its COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE</FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P><DIV style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Courier" size="5"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#2F90FF"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#293EFF"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000102"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17.3333px;"></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;tab-stops:28.0pt 56.0pt 84.0pt 112.0pt 140.0pt 168.0pt 196.0pt 224.0pt 3.5in 280.0pt 308.0pt 336.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><SPAN style=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17.3333px;"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000102">That said, the Canadian delegation can possibly be slightly swayed and brought closer by CS arguments.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#2F90FF"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#293EFF"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000102"><O:P style=""></O:P></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style=""><SPAN style=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17.3333px;"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Courier" size="5"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17.3333px;"></SPAN></FONT></SPAN><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;tab-stops:28.0pt 56.0pt 84.0pt 112.0pt 140.0pt 168.0pt 196.0pt 224.0pt 3.5in 280.0pt 308.0pt 336.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">I think this can very likely occur, and those of you “inside” the process should try it on for size with confidence.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"> </FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;tab-stops:28.0pt 56.0pt 84.0pt 112.0pt 140.0pt 168.0pt 196.0pt 224.0pt 3.5in 280.0pt 308.0pt 336.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">Particularly with respect to the need to separate technical management from policy, I think the Canadian position, as outlined in its comments on the July WGIG report, is more nuanced that the suggestion of intent to “weaken” implies.</FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;tab-stops:28.0pt 56.0pt 84.0pt 112.0pt 140.0pt 168.0pt 196.0pt 224.0pt 3.5in 280.0pt 308.0pt 336.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"> To focus on the Internet on its own terms, </FONT></SPAN><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">I’m going to re-state, I suspect quite undiplomatically, four rules of thumb that, from the broad discussion, I believe to be underpinning the CS position:</FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;tab-stops:28.0pt 56.0pt 84.0pt 112.0pt 140.0pt 168.0pt 196.0pt 224.0pt 3.5in 280.0pt 308.0pt 336.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">1.</FONT><SPAN style="font:7.0pt " times="" new="" roman""=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">All foreign policy is domestic policy</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"></FONT></SPAN></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;tab-stops:28.0pt 56.0pt 84.0pt 112.0pt 140.0pt 168.0pt 196.0pt 224.0pt 3.5in 280.0pt 308.0pt 336.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">2.</FONT><SPAN style="font:7.0pt " times="" new="" roman""=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">Trust no one</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"></FONT></SPAN></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;tab-stops:28.0pt 56.0pt 84.0pt 112.0pt 140.0pt 168.0pt 196.0pt 224.0pt 3.5in 280.0pt 308.0pt 336.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">3.</FONT><SPAN style="font:7.0pt " times="" new="" roman""=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">Follow the money</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"></FONT></SPAN></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;tab-stops:28.0pt 56.0pt 84.0pt 112.0pt 140.0pt 168.0pt 196.0pt 224.0pt 3.5in 280.0pt 308.0pt 336.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">4.</FONT><SPAN style="font:7.0pt " times="" new="" roman""=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">The Internet is neither global nor local. It’s distributed</FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;tab-stops:28.0pt 56.0pt 84.0pt 112.0pt 140.0pt 168.0pt 196.0pt 224.0pt 3.5in 280.0pt 308.0pt 336.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;tab-stops:28.0pt 56.0pt 84.0pt 112.0pt 140.0pt 168.0pt 196.0pt 224.0pt 3.5in 280.0pt 308.0pt 336.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">1.</FONT><SPAN style="font:7.0pt " times="" new="" roman""=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">All foreign policy is domestic policy: </FONT></SPAN><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">This applies to the EU just as much as it does to the USA.</FONT><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"> </FONT></SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">The problem is not “no one government.”</FONT><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"> </FONT></SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">It’s getting the roles of any and all governments correct in the mix.</FONT><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"> </FONT></SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">As things stand now, governments and “blocks” of governments are the risk and the problem, not the answer.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"></FONT></SPAN></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;tab-stops:28.0pt 56.0pt 84.0pt 112.0pt 140.0pt 168.0pt 196.0pt 224.0pt 3.5in 280.0pt 308.0pt 336.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">2.</FONT><SPAN style="font:7.0pt " times="" new="" roman""=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">Trust no one: </FONT></SPAN><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">The one thing that must survive intact beyond the WSIS process is Internet Protocol.</FONT><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"> </FONT></SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">In the long run, do we trust that the USA or markets will insure this?</FONT><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"> </FONT></SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">No. Alternatively, do we trust that any particular UN agency will do this? No.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"></FONT></SPAN></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;tab-stops:28.0pt 56.0pt 84.0pt 112.0pt 140.0pt 168.0pt 196.0pt 224.0pt 3.5in 280.0pt 308.0pt 336.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">3.</FONT><SPAN style="font:7.0pt " times="" new="" roman""=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">Follow the money: </FONT></SPAN><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">The ITU remains afterall primarily an organization of the telecom authorities of nation states.</FONT><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"> </FONT></SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">In many states, telecom revenue, and the political power that it represents, is one of the largest foreign exchange cash cows.</FONT><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"> </FONT></SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">If the real purpose of regulation is to keep the foreign exchange revenue stream flowing, bye-bye Internet!</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"></FONT></SPAN></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;tab-stops:28.0pt 56.0pt 84.0pt 112.0pt 140.0pt 168.0pt 196.0pt 224.0pt 3.5in 280.0pt 308.0pt 336.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">4.</FONT><SPAN style="font:7.0pt " times="" new="" roman""=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">The Internet is neither global nor local. It’s distributed: </FONT></SPAN><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">I can illustrate what this means by paraphrasing the WGIG Internet Governance Definition, leaving out the list of actors with its implications of a separation of roles:</FONT></SPAN></P><DIV class="MsoBodyText"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">“Internet governance is the development and application of shared principles, norms, rules, decision-making procedures, and programmes that shape the evolution and use of the Internet. “</FONT></DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;tab-stops:28.0pt 56.0pt 84.0pt 112.0pt 140.0pt 168.0pt 196.0pt 224.0pt 3.5in 280.0pt 308.0pt 336.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"> </FONT></SPAN><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">We know that the key word in that definition is “shared.”</FONT><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"> </FONT></SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">In our assessment of any forums or mechanisms, we need to ask ourselves, is that word "shared" still there?</FONT><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"> </FONT></SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">If it is, then we’re still on the middle ground.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"></FONT></SPAN></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;tab-stops:28.0pt 56.0pt 84.0pt 112.0pt 140.0pt 168.0pt 196.0pt 224.0pt 3.5in 280.0pt 308.0pt 336.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;tab-stops:28.0pt 56.0pt 84.0pt 112.0pt 140.0pt 168.0pt 196.0pt 224.0pt 3.5in 280.0pt 308.0pt 336.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">In summary, CS still risks contributing to the evisceration of the Internet by:</FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;tab-stops:28.0pt 56.0pt 84.0pt 112.0pt 140.0pt 168.0pt 196.0pt 224.0pt 3.5in 280.0pt 308.0pt 336.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"> </FONT></SPAN><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">a.</FONT><SPAN style="font:7.0pt " times="" new="" roman""=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">Because of getting sidetracked by certain “global” political sensitivities , inadvertently supporting the EU’s attempt to use to gain ground over a USA that it sees as badly self-wounded in its future trading relationships with developing countries, or …</FONT></SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;tab-stops:28.0pt 56.0pt 84.0pt 112.0pt 140.0pt 168.0pt 196.0pt 224.0pt 3.5in 280.0pt 308.0pt 336.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">b.</FONT><SPAN style="font:7.0pt " times="" new="" roman""=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN style=""><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"> </FONT></SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">Allowing some UN “mechanism” to turn Internet governance over to a cacophony of the interests of nation states.</FONT></SPAN></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0px;"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"> </FONT><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">If the overall Canadian position isn’t yet pointing to some effective middle ground that governs the Internet according to its functions, according to its “use,” then what is?</FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;tab-stops:28.0pt 56.0pt 84.0pt 112.0pt 140.0pt 168.0pt 196.0pt 224.0pt 3.5in 280.0pt 308.0pt 336.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"> </FONT></SPAN><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">Garth Graham</FONT></SPAN></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;tab-stops:28.0pt 56.0pt 84.0pt 112.0pt 140.0pt 168.0pt 196.0pt 224.0pt 3.5in 280.0pt 308.0pt 336.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><SPAN style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">T</FONT></SPAN>elecommunities Canada</P></BODY></HTML>