[governance] IGC Coordinator Relections - Reminder - Votes Closing in a few days

Peter H. Hellmonds peter.hellmonds at hellmonds.eu
Mon Sep 23 03:46:48 EDT 2019


+1

I have also been a WSIS participant from the beginning. While I primarily associate myself with the business community, I have a track record of working across all stakeholder groups. I don’t think it appropriate for me to engage in the voting process, but would like to stay as a friend of civil society on the list.

Best regards,

Peter

peter.hellmonds at hellmonds.net


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> On 23. Sep 2019, at 06:36, Amali De Silva (via governance Mailing List) <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I am a non voter and have been part of the WSIS process since its inception
> The choice not to vote is a democratic right in many countries
> Please continue to include all nonvoters and voters on equal terms for the future
> Thank you
> Amali De Silva - Mitchell 
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On ‎Sunday‎, ‎September‎ ‎22‎, ‎2019‎ ‎04‎:‎47‎:‎36‎ ‎AM‎ ‎PDT, Jean F. Quéralt <JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all.
> 
> Just for the interest of clarification I didn't feel there was any intention to "purge" per se. I was more trying to point out to that "loophole" (for lack of a better word on my part - English not being my first language) as at least all those who joined from BB recently would be in that particular situation.
> 
> As you mention, it would be a good conversation to look into during a Charter revision.
> 
> All is good :-)
> 
> Best,
> Jean
> 
> On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 5:11 PM Tapani Tarvainen <tapani.tarvainen at effi.org> wrote:
> Hi Jean,
> 
> My apologies for being unclear.
> 
> When I said we have no such plans I meant literally just that - I did
> not intend to imply that anything like that had been considered or
> should or even could be planned. I was just replying to Michael who
> seemed to think it might be possible. Indeed what you correctly
> observe about new members makes it clear that such a purge would not
> be possible.
> 
> In any case I am not in any position to remove anyone from the list
> even if wanted to. I'm now only concerned with the elections and apart
> from recording who voted and who didn't I'm not going to make any
> distinctions between list members.
> 
> But as your and Michael's questions indicate, it might be good if our
> charter was clearer on this point, distinguishing between new members
> (who are planning to vote as soon as they can) and observers (who can't
> or don't want to vote). But that's just a note for a possible future
> charter revision.
> 
> I hope this clarifies the situation.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Tapani
> 
> On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 03:16:08PM +0800, Jean F. Quéralt (JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org) wrote:
> > 
> > Dear Tapani,
> > 
> > Your message raised doubts in me.
> > 
> > >From my understanding from previous messages on this
> > subject, eligible voters had a number of conditions to fulfil; one of them
> > being the time they've joined the list.
> > That makes the case that, inevitably, you'll have members of the list that
> > can't be voters. I am one of those as I joined the list during the BB
> > merging, less than 2 months ago. So I am a member of the list and can't
> > (won't) vote.
> > 
> > I hear you when you say "no plans to purge non-voters"... the question that
> > comes to my mind is how to avoid that status to being with since all
> > newcomers will have that 2-months "waiting/vetting" time before being able
> > to vote?
> > Anything I am missing?
> > 
> > Best,
> > Jean
> > 
> > PS: Also read Ian's message on the matter. Just thinking the "limbo status"
> > should be identified and addressed if necessary.
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 5:14 PM Tapani Tarvainen <tapani.tarvainen at effi.org>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Dear Michael,
> > >
> > > IGC Charter is a bit unclear about this but practice has long been
> > > that it is perfectly fine to be on the mailing list without being a
> > > (voting) member of the IGC.
> > >
> > > It might be useful to clarify that and the terminology, such people
> > > could be called "observers" or something like that, but I'll leave it
> > > to our future co-coordinators to deal with.
> > >
> > > In any case we have now no plans purge non-voters from the list.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Tapani
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sep 20 09:58, Michael ILISHEBO (governance at lists.riseup.net) wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear Ian,
> > > >
> > > > As a friend of the Civil Society and one from Government, I am ineligible
> > > > to VOTE but would like to remain a member of this mailing list.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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