From governance at lists.riseup.net Sun Sep 1 23:48:33 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Marilia Maciel (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 05:48:33 +0200 Subject: [governance] Registrations open for the online course: Artificial Intelligence: Technology, Governance, and Policy Frameworks In-Reply-To: References: <5d69198d.1c69fb81.53841.f691SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Dear all, Applications are open for the second edition of Diplo's online course on Artificial Intelligence until the *16th of September*. The course provides an interdisciplinary coverage of the topic, encompassing technical, political, legal, economic, security, and ethical issues related to AI. It will start on the 7th of October and will be conducted over a period of ten weeks. Detailed information can be found on the course webpage . You can contact me in case you have any questions. All the best, Marilia Is this email not displaying correctly? View this email in your browser Registrations open for the online course: Artificial Intelligence: Technology, Governance, and Policy Frameworks *Artificial intelligence has moved from the realm of science fiction into our everyday lives. But what is it, exactly, and how does it change the socio-economic landscape? What is at stake for governments, businesses, and citizens? * This course aims to provide in-depth knowledge that will enable participants to assess critically the consequences of AI and understand the opportunities and challenges it creates across a broad spectrum of areas, including the fields of policy and diplomacy. It provides an interdisciplinary coverage of the topic, encompassing technical, political, legal, economic, security, and ethical issues related to AI. By the end of the course, participants should be able to: - Explain what AI is from both technical and policy perspectives, elaborating on practical, philosophical, and ethical aspects. - Critically assess the impact of AI across several areas, including security, commerce and finance, human rights, decision-making, and job markets. - Analyse the emerging processes for the governance of AI and the challenges related to the implementation of principles such as transparency, accountability, and explainability. - Draft the key elements of a national or institutional AI strategy, encompassing overall goals, definition of strategic sectors for investment, an evaluation of the (national) regulatory environment, and guidelines for an ethical framework in the field of AI. - Explain the potential need for regulation of AI and the different approaches that could be adopted (legal, technical standards, social norms, economic incentives). - Map the relevant actors and forums for the discussion and governance of AI. - Reflect on whether and how AI could be beneficially employed in their fields of work. - Articulate a critical opinion on emerging issues, such as the impact of AI on the future of decision-making, and on democracy. 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URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Wed Sep 25 09:49:24 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Marilia Maciel (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 15:49:24 +0200 Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Elections 2019 - RESULTS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Congratulations to all candidates and to our new coordinators, Bruna and Sheetal. Big thanks to Ian and Tapani for their services to the community. All the best, Marilia On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 3:06 PM Peter Micek wrote: > Agreed, congratulations to Bruna and Sheetal, and thank you Imran for > running and continuing this important work! > Peter > > > On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 4:02 PM Jacob Odame-Baiden < > governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: > >> Congratulations to all of you! >> >> On Tue, 24 Sep 2019, 12:42 Ian Peter, wrote: >> >>> We are pleased to announce the results of the IGC Coordinator Elections, >>> which closed on September 23. >>> >>> The final votes were >>> >>> >>> Bruna Martins dos Santos – 89 votes >>> >>> Sheetal Kumar – 79 votes >>> >>> Imran Ahmed Shah – 51 votes >>> >>> >>> We therefore declare Bruna Martins dos Santos elected for a two year >>> term, and Sheetal Kumar for a one year term. Congratulations to all the >>> candidates and thanks for offering their services. Terms of office start >>> now. >>> >>> As a result of the elections, 148 people have declared themselves to be >>> members of the Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus: this includes 12 >>> who chose to vote “None of the Above”. The list of members is now available >>> at https://igcaucus.org/igc-members-september-2019/ >>> >>> Further details on the election process appear below. >>> >>> ELECTION PROCESS >>> >>> This election had to deal with the unusual circumstance of electing two >>> Coordinators, because of delays in holding previous elections. The results >>> get IGC back on track where elections become an annual event to elect one >>> Cordinator, who will work with the ongoing Cordinator who has not completed >>> their term. >>> >>> A total of 663 invitations to vote were sent: this was the total of >>> email addresses which had been on the IGC mailing list for more than 2 >>> months. Of this total, 148 voted: this was in line with or above >>> expectations, as many people on the list do not identify as civil society >>> members but have an interest in internet governance and like to follow >>> activities here (and others choose to have more than one email address on >>> list). By comparison, the number of voters in the last election where there >>> was more than one candidate and a vote took place was only 99. >>> >>> LimeSurvey software was used and adopted for election purposes. We wish >>> to acknowledge the help of a small group of testers who helped us to refine >>> the software – Norbert Bollow, Farzaneh Badii, Deirdre Williams, Peter >>> Akinremi Taiwo, Arsene Tungali, and Chris Prince Udochukwu Njọkụ. >>> >>> Invitations to vote were sent on September 11. A follow up email to >>> those who had not yet voted was sent on September 18. Other reminders were >>> posted on the IGC Caucus mailing list. Voting closed on September 23. >>> >>> The mailing process resulted in 14 bounced emails, including 7 auto >>> responses indicating that the mailing address was no longer in use: these >>> will be referred to the incoming coordinators to refine the list. >>> >>> One person accidentally voted twice using separate emails. One of these >>> votes was eliminated. >>> >>> The software required people to confirm their eligibility to vote by >>> answering four basic questions: >>> >>> a. that they identify as a member of civil society >>> >>> b. that they have been subscribed to IGC mailing list for more than 2 >>> months >>> >>> c. that they accept the IGC Charter >>> >>> d. that they have not already voted in this election (perhaps utilising >>> another email address) >>> >>> In addition to the 148 people who completed the voting process, an >>> additional 39 people who had commenced the process determined not to >>> continue before reaching the voting page. >>> >>> The system was not preferential. All votes for all candidates were of >>> equal value. >>> >>> All in all, we believe the process went smoothly, drew a good level of >>> participation, and helped strengthen IGC. This would not have happened >>> without the strong groundswell of involvement from many people, reflected >>> in the level of participation in voting and the overall interest in seeing >>> this occur in a timely fashion. It also could not have happened without the >>> strong preliminary work of the Tech Team, led by Imran Ahmed Shah, which >>> restored the website of IGC, creating the basic infrastructure that allowed >>> us to develop a voting system and conduct this exercise. They also deserve >>> your thanks. >>> >>> As determined in discussions including with the previous Coordinator, >>> voting totals for each candidate have been released, as well as names of >>> all those who voted and therefore are now members of IGC. In line with >>> general privacy and GDPR provisions, other details of voters (email >>> addresses etc) will not be released, not will details of who voted for >>> which candidates. The detailed voting slips will be kept for a period of >>> three months, or longer if necessary to resolve any appeals, and will then >>> be erased. The core of the voting software will be retained for possible >>> future use. >>> >>> >>> Ian Peter and Tapani Tarvainen >>> >>> Returning Officers >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> To unsubscribe: >>> List help: >>> >> --- >> To unsubscribe: >> List help: >> > > > -- > Peter Micek > General Counsel > Access Now | accessnow.org > RightsCon | rightscon.org > > Pronouns: He/Him > Tel: +1-888-414-0100 x709 > PGP: 0xA5BD70B0 > Fingerprint: 6CFE 8E9F ED8E 66B8 BE38 EA59 002C EEF5 A5BD 70B0 > > **Subscribe* to the Access Now Express > , our weekly newsletter on digital > rights > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -- *Marília Maciel* Digital Policy Senior Researcher, DiploFoundation WMO Building *|* 7bis, Avenue de la Paix *| *1211 Geneva - Switzerland *Tel *+41 (0) 22 9073632 *| * *Email*: *MariliaM at diplomacy.edu * *|** Twitter: * *@MariliaM* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Wed Sep 25 10:50:34 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne?= Tungali (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 16:50:34 +0200 Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Elections 2019 - RESULTS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear all, I would like to congratulate the newly elected leaders, Bruna and Sheetal and thank everyone involved in supporting this process, including Tapani and Ian. It is great, despite the delay in putting together these elections, that we have new legitimate leaders to lead us for the next year or so. I would like to thank Imran for stepping forward as a candidate but mostly to thank him for his work on the tech aspects. I would like to strongly urge Bruna and Sheetal to have him close to them as he will be able to help on the tech aspects of the IGC. It is important to have someone around with the knowledge and the willingness to help and I am hoping Imran will be available to help in that capacity, supporting the two co-cos. It has been a great privilege to serve the IGC in the past as Co-coordinator and I can only wish the newly elected officers all the luck. As always, they know they can count on former Co-cos whenever needed. Best regards, Arsene 2019-09-25 15:49 UTC+02:00, Marilia Maciel : > Congratulations to all candidates and to our new coordinators, Bruna and > Sheetal. Big thanks to Ian and Tapani for their services to the community. > All the best, > Marilia > > > On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 3:06 PM Peter Micek wrote: > >> Agreed, congratulations to Bruna and Sheetal, and thank you Imran for >> running and continuing this important work! >> Peter >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 4:02 PM Jacob Odame-Baiden < >> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: >> >>> Congratulations to all of you! >>> >>> On Tue, 24 Sep 2019, 12:42 Ian Peter, wrote: >>> >>>> We are pleased to announce the results of the IGC Coordinator >>>> Elections, >>>> which closed on September 23. >>>> >>>> The final votes were >>>> >>>> >>>> Bruna Martins dos Santos – 89 votes >>>> >>>> Sheetal Kumar – 79 votes >>>> >>>> Imran Ahmed Shah – 51 votes >>>> >>>> >>>> We therefore declare Bruna Martins dos Santos elected for a two year >>>> term, and Sheetal Kumar for a one year term. Congratulations to all the >>>> candidates and thanks for offering their services. Terms of office >>>> start >>>> now. >>>> >>>> As a result of the elections, 148 people have declared themselves to be >>>> members of the Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus: this includes >>>> 12 >>>> who chose to vote “None of the Above”. The list of members is now >>>> available >>>> at https://igcaucus.org/igc-members-september-2019/ >>>> >>>> Further details on the election process appear below. >>>> >>>> ELECTION PROCESS >>>> >>>> This election had to deal with the unusual circumstance of electing two >>>> Coordinators, because of delays in holding previous elections. The >>>> results >>>> get IGC back on track where elections become an annual event to elect >>>> one >>>> Cordinator, who will work with the ongoing Cordinator who has not >>>> completed >>>> their term. >>>> >>>> A total of 663 invitations to vote were sent: this was the total of >>>> email addresses which had been on the IGC mailing list for more than 2 >>>> months. Of this total, 148 voted: this was in line with or above >>>> expectations, as many people on the list do not identify as civil >>>> society >>>> members but have an interest in internet governance and like to follow >>>> activities here (and others choose to have more than one email address >>>> on >>>> list). By comparison, the number of voters in the last election where >>>> there >>>> was more than one candidate and a vote took place was only 99. >>>> >>>> LimeSurvey software was used and adopted for election purposes. We wish >>>> to acknowledge the help of a small group of testers who helped us to >>>> refine >>>> the software – Norbert Bollow, Farzaneh Badii, Deirdre Williams, Peter >>>> Akinremi Taiwo, Arsene Tungali, and Chris Prince Udochukwu Njọkụ. >>>> >>>> Invitations to vote were sent on September 11. A follow up email to >>>> those who had not yet voted was sent on September 18. Other reminders >>>> were >>>> posted on the IGC Caucus mailing list. Voting closed on September 23. >>>> >>>> The mailing process resulted in 14 bounced emails, including 7 auto >>>> responses indicating that the mailing address was no longer in use: >>>> these >>>> will be referred to the incoming coordinators to refine the list. >>>> >>>> One person accidentally voted twice using separate emails. One of these >>>> votes was eliminated. >>>> >>>> The software required people to confirm their eligibility to vote by >>>> answering four basic questions: >>>> >>>> a. that they identify as a member of civil society >>>> >>>> b. that they have been subscribed to IGC mailing list for more than 2 >>>> months >>>> >>>> c. that they accept the IGC Charter >>>> >>>> d. that they have not already voted in this election (perhaps utilising >>>> another email address) >>>> >>>> In addition to the 148 people who completed the voting process, an >>>> additional 39 people who had commenced the process determined not to >>>> continue before reaching the voting page. >>>> >>>> The system was not preferential. All votes for all candidates were of >>>> equal value. >>>> >>>> All in all, we believe the process went smoothly, drew a good level of >>>> participation, and helped strengthen IGC. This would not have happened >>>> without the strong groundswell of involvement from many people, >>>> reflected >>>> in the level of participation in voting and the overall interest in >>>> seeing >>>> this occur in a timely fashion. It also could not have happened without >>>> the >>>> strong preliminary work of the Tech Team, led by Imran Ahmed Shah, >>>> which >>>> restored the website of IGC, creating the basic infrastructure that >>>> allowed >>>> us to develop a voting system and conduct this exercise. They also >>>> deserve >>>> your thanks. >>>> >>>> As determined in discussions including with the previous Coordinator, >>>> voting totals for each candidate have been released, as well as names >>>> of >>>> all those who voted and therefore are now members of IGC. In line with >>>> general privacy and GDPR provisions, other details of voters (email >>>> addresses etc) will not be released, not will details of who voted for >>>> which candidates. The detailed voting slips will be kept for a period >>>> of >>>> three months, or longer if necessary to resolve any appeals, and will >>>> then >>>> be erased. The core of the voting software will be retained for >>>> possible >>>> future use. >>>> >>>> >>>> Ian Peter and Tapani Tarvainen >>>> >>>> Returning Officers >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> To unsubscribe: >>>> List help: >>>> >>> --- >>> To unsubscribe: >>> List help: >>> >> >> >> -- >> Peter Micek >> General Counsel >> Access Now | accessnow.org >> RightsCon | rightscon.org >> >> Pronouns: He/Him >> Tel: +1-888-414-0100 x709 >> PGP: 0xA5BD70B0 >> Fingerprint: 6CFE 8E9F ED8E 66B8 BE38 EA59 002C EEF5 A5BD 70B0 >> >> **Subscribe* to the Access Now Express >> >> , our weekly newsletter on digital >> rights >> --- >> To unsubscribe: >> List help: >> > > > -- > > *Marília Maciel* > Digital Policy Senior Researcher, DiploFoundation > > WMO Building *|* 7bis, Avenue de la Paix *| *1211 Geneva - Switzerland > *Tel *+41 (0) 22 9073632 *| * > *Email*: *MariliaM at diplomacy.edu * *|** Twitter: * > *@MariliaM* > -- ------------------------ **Arsène Tungali* * Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international *, CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, Tel: +243 993810967 (DRC) GPG: 523644A0 2015 Mandela Washington Fellow < http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html> (YALI) - ICANN GNSO Council Member Member. UN IGF MAG Member From governance at lists.riseup.net Wed Sep 25 11:10:58 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Bruna Martins dos Santos (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 12:10:58 -0300 Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Elections 2019 - RESULTS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear IGC, @Sheetal Kumar said it all in her thank you email but I wanted to send in my thank you notes to the list too :) First of all, I would like to thank you all for participating at this elections and for your trust and support. These past elections are only the beginning of our process of strengthening IGC and fostering civil society coordination in all IG issues. I guess that past this initial challenge, we can now focus on other much needed action points regarding our caucus such as the IGF Civil Society event at day zero and increasing CS coordination. Additionally, thanks to Imram as well, besides being a candidate he is also a key part of this team of individuals that have been fully dedicated to IGC in these past months with our website and mailing list. Looking forward to continue working with all of you! Best, Bruna Santos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Wed Sep 25 12:46:07 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (sivasubramanian muthusamy (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 22:16:07 +0530 Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Elections 2019 - RESULTS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Congratulations to you and Bruno and wishes to you both on the task of making the Civil Society Caucus strong in proportion to other stakeholder groups in IG. Sivasubramanian M On Wed, Sep 25, 2019, 8:41 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos < governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: > Dear IGC, > > @Sheetal Kumar said it all in her thank you > email but I wanted to send in my thank you notes to the list too :) > > First of all, I would like to thank you all for participating at this > elections and for your trust and support. These past elections are only the > beginning of our process of strengthening IGC and fostering civil society > coordination in all IG issues. 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Rossini, JD, LLM, MBA* > Founder and Principal > *iNOVA Partners * > *Skype:* carolina.rossini_2 | Twitter: @carolinarossini > https://www.linkedin.com/in/carolinarossini/ > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From peter at accessnow.org Thu Sep 26 09:27:51 2019 From: peter at accessnow.org (Peter Micek) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 16:27:51 +0300 Subject: [governance] IGF 2019 Civil society pre-event: planning and preparation In-Reply-To: References: <434332890.1489738.1568540267110@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi all, I would like to use about 5 minutes of the Day 0 meeting to discuss digital ID programmes, and update on the new #WhyID coalition and statement. The campaign asserts that digital ID programs must respect good governance, data privacy, and cybersecurity norms. These mandatory ID programmes are quickly being imposed without a chance for civil society input, and before asking whether and why we need them. If you'd like to get involved in the campaign, ping Naman Aggarwal (cc'd) at Access Now. Thanks, Peter On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 10:28 PM Kossi Amessinou < governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: > Dear all, > This charter > > is important for all but we can put also the african declaration (FR > , > EN > ) > on the table. > Thank you. > > Le mar. 24 sept. 2019 à 18:56, Nnenna Nwakanma < > governance at lists.riseup.net> a écrit : > >> I think the UN High-Level Panel Report on Digital Cooperation should be >> on the agenda. Not just feedback on the report, but anticipating CS >> engagement going forward. >> Following the Christchurch call a Charter >> >> was launched. I have also copied and posted what I think is an important >> Declaration of key governments. Simply put, we need to discuss how we >> respond to internet governance legislation and regulatory moves across the >> world. >> >> If all goes as planned, I will be in Berlin >> >> Best >> >> N >> ------ Forwarded Message -------- >> >> The following text is a joint statement affirmed by these countries: >> Australia, Belgium, Canada, Colombia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, >> Finland, France, Germany, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Japan, Latvia, >> Lithuania, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, the Republic of >> Korea, Romania, Slovakia, Spain, Sweden, the United Kingdom, and the United >> States. >> >> Begin Text: >> >> Joint Statement on Advancing Responsible State Behavior in Cyberspace >> >> Information technology is transforming modern life, driving innovation >> and productivity, facilitating the sharing of ideas, of cultures, and >> promoting free expression. Its benefits have brought the global community >> closer together than ever before in history. Even as we recognize the >> myriad benefits that cyberspace has brought to our citizens and strive to >> ensure that humanity can continue to reap its benefits, a challenge to this >> vision has emerged. State and non-state actors are using cyberspace >> increasingly as a platform for irresponsible behavior from which to target >> critical infrastructure and our citizens, undermine democracies and >> international institutions and organizations, and undercut fair competition >> in our global economy by stealing ideas when they cannot create them. >> >> Over the past decade, the international community has made clear that the >> international rules-based order should guide state behavior in cyberspace. >> UN member states have increasingly coalesced around an evolving framework >> of responsible state behavior in cyberspace (framework), which supports the >> international rules-based order, affirms the applicability of international >> law to state-on-state behavior, adherence to voluntary norms of responsible >> state behavior in peacetime, and the development and implementation of >> practical confidence building measures to help reduce the risk of conflict >> stemming from cyber incidents. All members of the United Nations General >> Assembly have repeatedly affirmed this framework, articulated in three >> successive UN Groups of Governmental Experts reports in 2010, 2013, and >> 2015. >> >> We underscore our commitment to uphold the international rules-based >> order and encourage its adherence, implementation, and further development, >> including at the ongoing UN negotiations of the Open Ended Working Group >> and Group of Governmental Experts. We support targeted cybersecurity >> capacity building to ensure that all responsible states can implement this >> framework and better protect their networks from significant disruptive, >> destructive, or otherwise destabilizing cyber activity. We reiterate that >> human rights apply and must be respected and protected by states online, as >> well as offline, including when addressing cybersecurity. >> >> As responsible states that uphold the international rules-based order, we >> recognize our role in safeguarding the benefits of a free, open, and secure >> cyberspace for future generations. When necessary, we will work together on >> a voluntary basis to hold states accountable when they act contrary to this >> framework, including by taking measures that are transparent and consistent >> with international law. There must be consequences for bad behavior in >> cyberspace. >> >> We call on all states to support the evolving framework and to join with >> us to ensure greater accountability and stability in cyberspace. >> >> End Text >> >> For further information, please contact the Office of the Coordinator for >> Cyber Issues at SCCI_Press at state.gov. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 4:59 PM Sheetal Kumar >> wrote: >> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> Thanks for these inputs! >>> >>> So far I've got that people are interested in discussing the following >>> topics: 1) cybercrime 2) ethics 3) sustainability. >>> >>> I suggest we together a small working group who has the capacity to >>> steer the organisation of the session in an inclusive way. If you're >>> interested in being part of that, if you could email Bruna and I we'll >>> start a dedicated thread to support the organisation of the event. The >>> smaller group will liaise with everyone once we have some initial ideas to >>> propose on how to organise the event. >>> >>> Hope that's ok? >>> >>> Best >>> Sheetal >>> >>> On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 16:22, "Michael J. Oghia" < >>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Bruna, all: >>>> >>>> Thanks for looping me in. I've been hoping for some time that more >>>> people throughout the IG community would see the value in discussing >>>> climate change and sustainability as it relates to our work. Indeed, many >>>> different groups and initiatives are working on it, albeit across sectors >>>> and stakeholder groups. >>>> >>>> It's a massive problem – and it's not just data centers, it's literally >>>> everything you can think of as it relates to technology. While Internet >>>> governance tends (or at least tries) to limit itself to discussions about >>>> processes or what's *on* the Internet, the fact is there are multiple >>>> ways that the IG community could address sustainability more broadly (see >>>> the EuroDIG 2017 session I >>>> organised, for instance). >>>> >>>> At the same time, IRPC is really spearheading this at the moment. I >>>> think it's more prudent to join with them in support to address how climate >>>> change and sustainability are, at the very core, human rights issues, as >>>> well as to limit redundancy. Instead of briefing everyone on the issue, for >>>> example, I'd happily give a webinar to anyone interested about the >>>> interconnections (but I've also written extensively about it). >>>> >>>> My suggestion is to support IRPC and leave the CS pre-event to strategy >>>> or another topic that isn't covered at all by the IGF (the workshops have a >>>> rather narrow focus this year, to put it diplomatic terms). >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> -Michael >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 3:02 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos < >>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Sheetal, >>>>> >>>>> Maybe its worth considering a discussion on climate change and >>>>> Internet Governance to our day zero meeting. This is something thats been >>>>> discussed at a different thread set at NCSG mailing list, but there seems >>>>> to be some interest to facilitate a discussion on these lines at the igf >>>>> and even require some policy outcome that would look to the matter. >>>>> >>>>> @Michael Oghia and @Nick Shorey Lists >>>>> have been starting this conversation at the >>>>> NSCG mailing list and I am cc'ing them here! >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Bruna >>>>> >>>>> Le dim. 15 sept. 2019 à 06:38, Amali De Silva < >>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> a écrit : >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Please include the teaching of ethics in a globally connected >>>>>> society >>>>>> … right thought for right action is never out of fashion , right >>>>>> planning for best action is good risk management … right attitude and >>>>>> compassion for human care …. >>>>>> Amali De SIlva-Mitchell >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On ‎Friday‎, ‎September‎ ‎13‎, ‎2019‎ ‎08‎:‎38‎:‎41‎ ‎AM‎ ‎PDT, Remmy >>>>>> Nweke wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Sheetal >>>>>> This is great thought. >>>>>> Although not sure of attending yet, I will like to be part of the >>>>>> planning team. >>>>>> Will like also to see issues on "Stereotyping of Cyber Crime and >>>>>> Effects on Developing Economies and Role of Civil Society." >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Remmy >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 12:57 AM Sheetal Kumar >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm getting in touch here about planning one of the civil society >>>>>> pre-events to the IGF session. It's called "Civil society coordination >>>>>> meeting (Global Partners Digital)" in the schedule but it is *not *a >>>>>> GPD event. I just applied for it, that's all. It's an event open to all >>>>>> civil society, and I would suggest that members of IGC should be actively >>>>>> involved in shaping its agenda. It's been moved to from to 13.30 - 15.30 >>>>>> pm following a request from the IGF Secretariat. >>>>>> >>>>>> When a few of us met on the sidelines of RightsCon earlier this year >>>>>> we suggested that the event could focus on sharing updates on key global >>>>>> processes and perhaps planning for how to input into them e.g: the High >>>>>> Level Panel, the UN First Committee processes on cyber and any others. And >>>>>> we could also discuss any matters pertaining to the IGC. >>>>>> >>>>>> As such, I would be grateful if you could share your views on the >>>>>> following >>>>>> >>>>>> - What topics and/or forums should we discuss at the civil society >>>>>> pre-event? >>>>>> - Would you like to discuss any topics related to IGC specifically? >>>>>> - How should we discuss these topics (presentations, or just open >>>>>> discussions) bearing in mind we have only 2 hours? >>>>>> - What outcome would you like to see from the pre-event? >>>>>> - Would you like to be involved in planning the event (this will >>>>>> require a dedication of a few hours over the next two months, I can't say >>>>>> how much) >>>>>> >>>>>> It would also be great if you could let me know if you're planning to >>>>>> be there. I know this is dependent on funding for many of us but if you can >>>>>> give an indication that would be great. >>>>>> >>>>>> Looking forward to hearing from you! >>>>>> >>>>>> Best >>>>>> Sheetal >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar* >>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL >>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL >>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514 | >>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 >>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31| >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> To unsubscribe: >>>>>> List help: >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> To unsubscribe: >>>>>> List help: >>>>>> --- >>>>>> To unsubscribe: >>>>>> List help: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos * >>>>> >>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos >>>>> @boomartins >>>>> >>>> --- >>>> To unsubscribe: >>>> List help: >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> *Sheetal Kumar* >>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL >>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL >>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514 | >>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603 >>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31| >>> >>> >>> --- >>> To unsubscribe: >>> List help: >>> >> --- >> To unsubscribe: >> List help: >> > > > -- > Dr AMESSINOU Kossi > Docteur en Sciences de l'Information et de la Communication > Téléphone: +229 95 19 67 02 > Whatsapp: +229 99 38 98 17 > Boîte Postale: 01BP7304 Cotonou - Bénin > Emails: kossi.amessinou at fgi.bj > kamessinou at gouv.bj > amessinoukossi at gmail.com > skype: amessinou | @amessinou | @bigf > http://www.facebook.com/amessinoukossi | > www.linkedin.com/pub/kossi-amessinou > Que Dieu vous bénisse | Dans le silence, Dieu nous parle! 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I wish the new coordinators the best of luck with the revival of IGC Luca ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Luca Belli, PhD Professor of Internet Governance and Regulation, FGV Law School, Rio de Janeiro Chercheur Associé, Centre de Droit Public Comparé, Université Paris 2 www.cyberbrics.info | www.internet-governance.fgv.br @1lucabelli ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This message, as well as any attached document, may contain personal data and information that is confidential and privileged and is intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying or distribution of this email or attached documents, or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email by mistake. --------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [governance] IGC Coordinator Elections 2019 - RESULTS From: 'sivasubramanian muthusamy' Date: 9/25/19 12:46 pm To: 'Bruna Martins dos Santos' Cc: 'Arsène_Tungali' , 'Sheetal Kumar' , 'Marilia Maciel' , 'Peter Micek' , 'Jacob Odame-Baiden' , 'Ian Peter' , 'governance' Congratulations to you and Bruno and wishes to you both on the task of making the Civil Society Caucus strong in proportion to other stakeholder groups in IG. Sivasubramanian M On Wed, Sep 25, 2019, 8:41 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos wrote: Dear IGC, @Sheetal Kumar said it all in her thank you email but I wanted to send in my thank you notes to the list too :) First of all, I would like to thank you all for participating at this elections and for your trust and support. These past elections are only the beginning of our process of strengthening IGC and fostering civil society coordination in all IG issues. I guess that past this initial challenge, we can now focus on other much needed action points regarding our caucus such as the IGF Civil Society event at day zero and increasing CS coordination. Additionally, thanks to Imram as well, besides being a candidate he is also a key part of this team of individuals that have been fully dedicated to IGC in these past months with our website and mailing list. Looking forward to continue working with all of you! 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I find this *deeply problematic* and in violation of the fundamental principles of the multi-stakeholder model, namely the fact that it's meant to be inclusive and open to all. Has anyone encountered this problem in the past, either in the IG sector or another development sector? Does anyone have ideas for how it can be resolved? I'm well aware this is not the first instance of a Taiwanese national being excluded from participation in a global event, so perhaps this is a moot point and no one can help. Still, it still strikes me as incredibly unjust and unfair that regional politics would prevent individuals from attending the IGF. Best, -Michael __________________ Michael J. Oghia | Advocacy & Engagement Manager Global Forum for Media Development (GFMD ) Belgrade, Serbia | Twitter | LinkedIn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From parminder at itforchange.net Thu Sep 26 22:24:44 2019 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2019 07:54:44 +0530 Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Elections 2019 - RESULTS In-Reply-To: <20190926090532.2700328f4bbfc197480209526f2a1375.92db1d644a.mailapi@email07.godaddy.com> References: <20190926090532.2700328f4bbfc197480209526f2a1375.92db1d644a.mailapi@email07.godaddy.com> Message-ID: <056ed3c9-a832-39b3-7c19-6e16a0769673@itforchange.net> Congratulations to Bruna and Sheetal, and much thanks to Ian and Tapani ... parminder On 26/09/19 9:35 PM, LB at lucabelli.net wrote: > Congratulations to Sheetal and Bruna as well as to Tapani and Ian for > organising a very successful process! >   > I wish the new coordinators the best of luck with the revival of IGC >   > Luca >   >   > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *Luca Belli*, PhD > Professor of Internet Governance and Regulation, FGV Law School, Rio > de Janeiro  > Chercheur Associé, Centre de Droit Public Comparé, Université Paris 2 > www.cyberbrics.info | www.internet-governance.fgv.br > @1lucabelli > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >   >   > /CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE/ > /This message, as well as any attached document, may contain *personal > data* and information that is confidential and privileged and is > intended only for the use of the *addressee* named above. If you are > not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > disclosure, copying or distribution of this email or attached > documents, or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this > message or its attachments is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. > Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email > by mistake./ > >   >   >   > > --------- Original Message --------- > Subject: Re: [governance] IGC Coordinator Elections 2019 - RESULTS > From: 'sivasubramanian muthusamy' > Date: 9/25/19 12:46 pm > To: 'Bruna Martins dos Santos' > Cc: 'Arsène_Tungali' , 'Sheetal Kumar' > , 'Marilia Maciel' > , 'Peter Micek' , > 'Jacob Odame-Baiden' , 'Ian Peter' > , 'governance' > > Congratulations to you and Bruno and wishes to you both on the > task of making the Civil Society Caucus strong in proportion to > other stakeholder groups in IG. >   > Sivasubramanian M > > On Wed, Sep 25, 2019, 8:41 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos > > > wrote: > > Dear IGC,  >   > @Sheetal Kumar  said it all in > her thank you email but I wanted to send in my thank you notes > to the list too :) >   > First of all, I would like to thank you all for participating > at this elections and for your trust and support. These past > elections are only the beginning of our process of > strengthening IGC and fostering civil society coordination in > all IG issues. I guess that past this initial challenge, we > can now focus on other much needed action points regarding our > caucus such as the IGF Civil Society event at day zero and > increasing CS coordination.  >   > Additionally, thanks to Imram as well, besides being a > candidate he is also a key part of this team of individuals > that have been fully dedicated to IGC in these past months > with our website and mailing list. >   > Looking forward to continue working with all of you!  >   > Best,  > Bruna Santos  >   >   > --- > To unsubscribe: > > List help: > > --- To unsubscribe: List > help: > > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Fri Sep 27 01:31:01 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Hempal Shrestha (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2019 11:16:01 +0545 Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Elections 2019 - RESULTS In-Reply-To: <056ed3c9-a832-39b3-7c19-6e16a0769673@itforchange.net> References: <20190926090532.2700328f4bbfc197480209526f2a1375.92db1d644a.mailapi@email07.godaddy.com> <056ed3c9-a832-39b3-7c19-6e16a0769673@itforchange.net> Message-ID: Many thanks to Ian and Tapani for stewarding the entire process so effectively and Imran for technical support. Congratulations to all three candidates for proposing your candidacy for the role of co-coordinator and giving us a chance to reflect our support. Best wishes to Bruna and Sheetal for a great term under your coordination. As the Internet is being polarized and monopolized, may this caucus of civil society and community of practice under your leadership will keep the flag of openness and free Internet high. Kind regards, Hempal Shrestha Researcher | Lawyer | Trainer | Educator | Facilitator:- Consultant Information Technology, Law and Knowledge Management G.P.O Box: 5501, Kathmandu, Nepal Contact: +977-9851077031 | 9808166400 Mobile /Viber /Telegram /WhatsApp: +977-9851077031 Email: hempalshrestha at gmail.com | Skype: hempalshrestha On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 8:10 AM parminder wrote: > Congratulations to Bruna and Sheetal, and much thanks to Ian and Tapani > ... parminder > On 26/09/19 9:35 PM, LB at lucabelli.net wrote: > > Congratulations to Sheetal and Bruna as well as to Tapani and Ian for > organising a very successful process! > > I wish the new coordinators the best of luck with the revival of IGC > > Luca > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *Luca Belli*, PhD > Professor of Internet Governance and Regulation, FGV Law School, Rio de > Janeiro > Chercheur Associé, Centre de Droit Public Comparé, Université Paris 2 > www.cyberbrics.info | www.internet-governance.fgv.br > @1lucabelli > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE* > *This message, as well as any attached document, may contain personal data > and information that is confidential and privileged and is intended only > for the use of the addressee named above. 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URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Fri Sep 27 05:09:22 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Michael J. Oghia" (via governance Mailing List) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2019 11:09:22 +0200 Subject: [governance] IGF 2019 Civil society pre-event: planning and preparation In-Reply-To: References: <434332890.1489738.1568540267110@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi everyone, Nick, to clarify, I will never try to argue *against* speaking about climate change and sustainability, so if people really want to discuss that then great! This is a good suggestion as well. I'd be happy to do a webinar at some point (I already have the presentation and have delivered it before). Again, I won't discourage the pursuit of this topic. Let's see what others say, but know that I am flexible (topic-wide) regardless! Best, -Michael On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 11:03 AM Nick Shorey wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Thanks Bruna for linking me in, and I’m excited to read all the > interesting topics and activity that’s happening here! > > Regarding an agenda item on sustainability, I politely disagree with > Michael and suggest that we *do* have an agenda item on this topic, if > possible within the schedule. > > My reason being is that it appears there is a broad interest in this > topic, but that many people are not actually aware of all the activity that > is going on, in particular the work that IRPC has been doing. From a > personal standpoint, when I looked through the IGF schedule, it was not at > all obvious that the IRPC session would cover climate change. > > I’m sure I won’t be alone in this, so I reckon a brief agenda item - maybe > with Michael delivering an overview of the work that’s been taking place > and direct people where to engage - would be an excellent way to raise > awareness, build a groundswell of interest, and compliment the work of > other tracks by bringing more people into the fold and amplifying the > message. > > Michael maybe you could then follow this up with a webinar or something, > but I strongly believe there is real value to a brief agenda item > introducing the topic and current activities, and doing so in person to > build energy and focus, and so people can put a face to a name and have > someone they can also chat to during the margins of the event. > > Kind regards, > > Nick > > Nick Shorey > Phone: +44 (0) 7552 455 988 > Email: lists at nickshorey.com > Skype: nick.shorey > Twitter: @nickshorey > LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/nicklinkedin > Web: www.nickshorey.com > > > > > On 26 Sep 2019, at 16:35, Arzak Khan wrote: > > Dear Peter, > > I would like to be involved in the program and share my experiences. > > Best, > > Arzak > > Get Outlook for Android > ------------------------------ > *From:* governance-request at lists.riseup.net < > governance-request at lists.riseup.net> on behalf of Peter Micek < > peter at accessnow.org> > *Sent:* Thursday, September 26, 2019 6:27:51 PM > *To:* amessinoukossi at gmail.com > *Cc:* MYGMAIL ; Sheetal Kumar ; > Michael J. Oghia ; governance < > governance at lists.riseup.net>; Nick Shorey Lists ; > Naman Aggarwal > *Subject:* Re: [governance] IGF 2019 Civil society pre-event: planning > and preparation > > Hi all, > > I would like to use about 5 minutes of the Day 0 meeting to discuss > digital ID programmes, and update on the new #WhyID coalition and > statement. The campaign asserts that digital ID programs must respect good > governance, data privacy, and cybersecurity norms. These mandatory ID > programmes are quickly being imposed without a chance for civil society > input, and before asking whether and why we need them. > > If you'd like to get involved in the campaign, ping Naman Aggarwal (cc'd) > at Access Now. > > Thanks, > Peter > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 10:28 PM Kossi Amessinou < > governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: > >> Dear all, >> This charter >> >> is important for all but we can put also the african declaration (FR >> , >> EN >> ) >> on the table. >> Thank you. >> >> Le mar. 24 sept. 2019 à 18:56, Nnenna Nwakanma < >> governance at lists.riseup.net> a écrit : >> >>> I think the UN High-Level Panel Report on Digital Cooperation should be >>> on the agenda. Not just feedback on the report, but anticipating CS >>> engagement going forward. >>> Following the Christchurch call a Charter >>> >>> was launched. I have also copied and posted what I think is an important >>> Declaration of key governments. Simply put, we need to discuss how we >>> respond to internet governance legislation and regulatory moves across the >>> world. >>> >>> If all goes as planned, I will be in Berlin >>> >>> Best >>> >>> N >>> ------ Forwarded Message -------- >>> >>> The following text is a joint statement affirmed by these countries: >>> Australia, Belgium, Canada, Colombia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, >>> Finland, France, Germany, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Japan, Latvia, >>> Lithuania, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, the Republic of >>> Korea, Romania, Slovakia, Spain, Sweden, the United Kingdom, and the United >>> States. >>> >>> Begin Text: >>> >>> Joint Statement on Advancing Responsible State Behavior in Cyberspace >>> >>> Information technology is transforming modern life, driving innovation >>> and productivity, facilitating the sharing of ideas, of cultures, and >>> promoting free expression. Its benefits have brought the global community >>> closer together than ever before in history. Even as we recognize the >>> myriad benefits that cyberspace has brought to our citizens and strive to >>> ensure that humanity can continue to reap its benefits, a challenge to this >>> vision has emerged. State and non-state actors are using cyberspace >>> increasingly as a platform for irresponsible behavior from which to target >>> critical infrastructure and our citizens, undermine democracies and >>> international institutions and organizations, and undercut fair competition >>> in our global economy by stealing ideas when they cannot create them. >>> >>> Over the past decade, the international community has made clear that >>> the international rules-based order should guide state behavior in >>> cyberspace. UN member states have increasingly coalesced around an evolving >>> framework of responsible state behavior in cyberspace (framework), which >>> supports the international rules-based order, affirms the applicability of >>> international law to state-on-state behavior, adherence to voluntary norms >>> of responsible state behavior in peacetime, and the development and >>> implementation of practical confidence building measures to help reduce the >>> risk of conflict stemming from cyber incidents. All members of the United >>> Nations General Assembly have repeatedly affirmed this framework, >>> articulated in three successive UN Groups of Governmental Experts reports >>> in 2010, 2013, and 2015. >>> >>> We underscore our commitment to uphold the international rules-based >>> order and encourage its adherence, implementation, and further development, >>> including at the ongoing UN negotiations of the Open Ended Working Group >>> and Group of Governmental Experts. We support targeted cybersecurity >>> capacity building to ensure that all responsible states can implement this >>> framework and better protect their networks from significant disruptive, >>> destructive, or otherwise destabilizing cyber activity. We reiterate that >>> human rights apply and must be respected and protected by states online, as >>> well as offline, including when addressing cybersecurity. >>> >>> As responsible states that uphold the international rules-based order, >>> we recognize our role in safeguarding the benefits of a free, open, and >>> secure cyberspace for future generations. When necessary, we will work >>> together on a voluntary basis to hold states accountable when they act >>> contrary to this framework, including by taking measures that are >>> transparent and consistent with international law. There must be >>> consequences for bad behavior in cyberspace. >>> >>> We call on all states to support the evolving framework and to join with >>> us to ensure greater accountability and stability in cyberspace. >>> >>> End Text >>> >>> For further information, please contact the Office of the Coordinator >>> for Cyber Issues at SCCI_Press at state.gov. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 4:59 PM Sheetal Kumar >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear all, >>>> >>>> Thanks for these inputs! >>>> >>>> So far I've got that people are interested in discussing the following >>>> topics: 1) cybercrime 2) ethics 3) sustainability. >>>> >>>> I suggest we together a small working group who has the capacity to >>>> steer the organisation of the session in an inclusive way. If you're >>>> interested in being part of that, if you could email Bruna and I we'll >>>> start a dedicated thread to support the organisation of the event. The >>>> smaller group will liaise with everyone once we have some initial ideas to >>>> propose on how to organise the event. >>>> >>>> Hope that's ok? >>>> >>>> Best >>>> Sheetal >>>> >>>> On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 16:22, "Michael J. Oghia" < >>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Bruna, all: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for looping me in. I've been hoping for some time that more >>>>> people throughout the IG community would see the value in discussing >>>>> climate change and sustainability as it relates to our work. Indeed, many >>>>> different groups and initiatives are working on it, albeit across sectors >>>>> and stakeholder groups. >>>>> >>>>> It's a massive problem – and it's not just data centers, it's >>>>> literally everything you can think of as it relates to technology. While >>>>> Internet governance tends (or at least tries) to limit itself to >>>>> discussions about processes or what's *on* the Internet, the fact is >>>>> there are multiple ways that the IG community could address sustainability >>>>> more broadly (see the EuroDIG 2017 session >>>>> I organised, for instance). >>>>> >>>>> At the same time, IRPC is really spearheading this at the moment. I >>>>> think it's more prudent to join with them in support to address how climate >>>>> change and sustainability are, at the very core, human rights issues, as >>>>> well as to limit redundancy. Instead of briefing everyone on the issue, for >>>>> example, I'd happily give a webinar to anyone interested about the >>>>> interconnections (but I've also written extensively about it). >>>>> >>>>> My suggestion is to support IRPC and leave the CS pre-event to >>>>> strategy or another topic that isn't covered at all by the IGF (the >>>>> workshops have a rather narrow focus this year, to put it diplomatic >>>>> terms). >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> -Michael >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 3:02 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos < >>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Sheetal, >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe its worth considering a discussion on climate change and >>>>>> Internet Governance to our day zero meeting. This is something thats been >>>>>> discussed at a different thread set at NCSG mailing list, but there seems >>>>>> to be some interest to facilitate a discussion on these lines at the igf >>>>>> and even require some policy outcome that would look to the matter. >>>>>> >>>>>> @Michael Oghia and @Nick Shorey Lists >>>>>> have been starting this conversation at the >>>>>> NSCG mailing list and I am cc'ing them here! >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> Bruna >>>>>> >>>>>> Le dim. 15 sept. 2019 à 06:38, Amali De Silva < >>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> a écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please include the teaching of ethics in a globally connected >>>>>>> society >>>>>>> … right thought for right action is never out of fashion , right >>>>>>> planning for best action is good risk management … right attitude and >>>>>>> compassion for human care …. >>>>>>> Amali De SIlva-Mitchell >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On ‎Friday‎, ‎September‎ ‎13‎, ‎2019‎ ‎08‎:‎38‎:‎41‎ ‎AM‎ ‎PDT, >>>>>>> Remmy Nweke wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Sheetal >>>>>>> This is great thought. >>>>>>> Although not sure of attending yet, I will like to be part of the >>>>>>> planning team. >>>>>>> Will like also to see issues on "Stereotyping of Cyber Crime and >>>>>>> Effects on Developing Economies and Role of Civil Society." >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> Remmy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 12:57 AM Sheetal Kumar >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm getting in touch here about planning one of the civil society >>>>>>> pre-events to the IGF session. It's called "Civil society coordination >>>>>>> meeting (Global Partners Digital)" in the schedule but it is *not *a >>>>>>> GPD event. I just applied for it, that's all. It's an event open to all >>>>>>> civil society, and I would suggest that members of IGC should be actively >>>>>>> involved in shaping its agenda. It's been moved to from to 13.30 - 15.30 >>>>>>> pm following a request from the IGF Secretariat. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When a few of us met on the sidelines of RightsCon earlier this year >>>>>>> we suggested that the event could focus on sharing updates on key global >>>>>>> processes and perhaps planning for how to input into them e.g: the High >>>>>>> Level Panel, the UN First Committee processes on cyber and any others. And >>>>>>> we could also discuss any matters pertaining to the IGC. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As such, I would be grateful if you could share your views on the >>>>>>> following >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - What topics and/or forums should we discuss at the civil society >>>>>>> pre-event? >>>>>>> - Would you like to discuss any topics related to IGC specifically? >>>>>>> - How should we discuss these topics (presentations, or just open >>>>>>> discussions) bearing in mind we have only 2 hours? >>>>>>> - What outcome would you like to see from the pre-event? >>>>>>> - Would you like to be involved in planning the event (this will >>>>>>> require a dedication of a few hours over the next two months, I can't say >>>>>>> how much) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It would also be great if you could let me know if you're planning >>>>>>> to be there. I know this is dependent on funding for many of us but if you >>>>>>> can give an indication that would be great. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Looking forward to hearing from you! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best >>>>>>> Sheetal >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar* >>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL >>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL >>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514 | >>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 >>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31| >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe: >>>>>>> List help: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe: >>>>>>> List help: >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe: >>>>>>> List help: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos * >>>>>> >>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos >>>>>> @boomartins >>>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> To unsubscribe: >>>>> List help: >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> *Sheetal Kumar* >>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL >>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL >>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514 | >>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603 >>>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31| >>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> To unsubscribe: >>>> List help: >>>> >>> --- >>> To unsubscribe: >>> List help: >>> >> >> >> -- >> Dr AMESSINOU Kossi >> Docteur en Sciences de l'Information et de la Communication >> Téléphone: +229 95 19 67 02 >> Whatsapp: +229 99 38 98 17 >> Boîte Postale: 01BP7304 Cotonou - Bénin >> Emails: kossi.amessinou at fgi.bj >> kamessinou at gouv.bj >> amessinoukossi at gmail.com >> skype: amessinou | @amessinou | @bigf >> http://www.facebook.com/amessinoukossi | >> www.linkedin.com/pub/kossi-amessinou >> Que Dieu vous bénisse | Dans le silence, Dieu nous parle! 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It will honor 11 new inductees who have made historic contributions to the development and growth of the global Internet. VIEW ON LIVESTREAM: http" [image: livestream] The *2019 Internet Hall of Fame ceremony *, will be held today 27 September, 2019 in San Jose, Costa Rica,. It will honor 11 new inductees who have made historic contributions to the development and growth of the global Internet. VIEW ON LIVESTREAM: https://livestream.com/internetsociety/ihof2019 TWITTER: #IHOF2019 bit.ly/ihof2019 *I * *Permalink* https://isoc.live/11379/ -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ayden at ferdeline.com Sat Sep 28 05:55:17 2019 From: ayden at ferdeline.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ayden_F=C3=A9rdeline?=) Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2019 09:55:17 +0000 Subject: [governance] WEBCAST TODAY: Webinar: Are Organizations Ready for New #Privacy Regulations? @ISOC_OTA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Joly - I appreciate you streaming this, and this criticism is not directed towards you. However, this is a very low quality report which is not worth reading. I would not suggest anyone block time in their calendar to watch this webinar. The report lacks rigour and the key findings are not supported by the evidence that ISOC has published. There are a number of logical fallacies evident throughout the report and it has not even been proofread, as there are incomplete sentences and typos throughout. And there are some assertions in the report that might have been true or thought to have been true 20 years ago, but which are now out of date. Troublingly, I do not believe ISOC's own privacy policy would pass the pretty rudimentary criteria they have set here either. (And yet ISOC has made its own 'Honor Roll', and I cannot understand how this could possibly be the case, as their privacy policy is among the worst you could find - unclear, incomplete, and out of date.) I would love to see ISOC lead by example and improve its own privacy practices. But until it does, it might want to consult with some actual privacy experts when in the future it spends public interest money on privacy research. Because this is not a report that was ready to be published, and it should not have been published, in my opinion. Ayden Férdeline ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Thursday, 26 September 2019 19:12, Joly MacFie wrote: > This is under way. If you are late or miss it you can review on the livestream link. > > ISOC Live posted: "Today, Thursday 26 September 2019 at 1pm EDT (17:00 UTC) the Online Trust Alliance presents a Webinar: Are Organizations Ready for New Privacy Regulations? The 10th Online Trust Audit analyzed 29 variables in 1,200 privacy statements to determine how well" > > [livestream](https://livestream.com/internetsociety/otaprivacy)Today, Thursday 26 September 2019 at 1pm EDT (17:00 UTC) the [Online Trust Alliance](https://www.internetsociety.org/ota/) presents a [Webinar: Are Organizations Ready for New Privacy Regulations?](https://www.internetsociety.org/events/webinar-are-organizations-ready-for-new-privacy-regulations/) The 10th Online Trust Audit analyzed 29 variables in 1,200 privacy statements to determine how well they convey information to users. A [new report](https://www.internetsociety.org/privacystatements) takes another look at these privacy statements in the context of common themes across three global privacy regulations – the European Union’s General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), the California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA), and Canada’s Personal Information Protection and Electronic Documents Act (PIPEDA). The report revealed that many organizations’ privacy statements fail to meet common principles outlined in GDPR, CCPA, PIPEDA, including the user’s right to request information, right to understand how their data is being shared with third parties and the ability of that information to be deleted upon request. Join us for this public webinar to discuss the common themes across major privacy legislation and how organizations are preparing for these new laws. > > VIEW ON LIVESTREAM: https://livestream.com/internetsociety/otaprivacy > > REPORT: https://www.internetsociety.org/privacystatements > > TWITTER: @ISOC_OTA #privacy https://priv.sh/2KVzg36 > > Permalink > https://isoc.live/11376/ > > - > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast > -------------------------------------------------------------- > - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joly at punkcast.com Sat Sep 28 10:24:38 2019 From: joly at punkcast.com (Joly MacFie) Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2019 10:24:38 -0400 Subject: [governance] WEBCAST TODAY: AI Sustainable Development Summit 2019 #AISDG In-Reply-To: References: <151329629.11384.0@wordpress.com> Message-ID: #AIforgood. It's a thing. ISOC Live posted: "On 28 September 2019 the AI Sustainable Development Summit brings together in thought leaders and practitioners in AI and sustainable development. Participants will explore innovative solutions for the economic, social, and environmental challenges that e" [image: livestream] On *28 September 2019* the* AI Sustainable Development Summit * brings together in thought leaders and practitioners in AI and sustainable development. Participants will explore innovative solutions for the economic, social, and environmental challenges that encompass the 17 Sustainable Development Goals. Delegates include global policy leaders visiting New York City, technologists and businesses leveraging AI for social impact, researchers from leading universities and think tanks, as well as investors funding solutions to the world’s most pressing challenges. This event is part of the Industry Transition Program in the UNGA's *Climate Week NYC *. *VIEW ON LIVESTREAM: https://livestream.com/internetsociety/aisdg * *VIEW ON FACEBOOK: https://priv.sh/ooWNCmL * *PROGRAM: http://www.aisdg.com/ * *TWITTER: #AISDG https://priv.sh/DMUYXCH * *Permalink* https://isoc.live/11384/ -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Sat Sep 28 23:58:35 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Jahangir Hossain (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 09:58:35 +0600 Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Elections 2019 - RESULTS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Congratulations to all of you ! Regards, Jahangir On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 6:42 PM Ian Peter wrote: > We are pleased to announce the results of the IGC Coordinator Elections, > which closed on September 23. > > The final votes were > > > Bruna Martins dos Santos – 89 votes > > Sheetal Kumar – 79 votes > > Imran Ahmed Shah – 51 votes > > > We therefore declare Bruna Martins dos Santos elected for a two year term, > and Sheetal Kumar for a one year term. Congratulations to all the > candidates and thanks for offering their services. Terms of office start > now. > > As a result of the elections, 148 people have declared themselves to be > members of the Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus: this includes 12 > who chose to vote “None of the Above”. The list of members is now available > at https://igcaucus.org/igc-members-september-2019/ > > Further details on the election process appear below. > > ELECTION PROCESS > > This election had to deal with the unusual circumstance of electing two > Coordinators, because of delays in holding previous elections. The results > get IGC back on track where elections become an annual event to elect one > Cordinator, who will work with the ongoing Cordinator who has not completed > their term. > > A total of 663 invitations to vote were sent: this was the total of email > addresses which had been on the IGC mailing list for more than 2 months. Of > this total, 148 voted: this was in line with or above expectations, as many > people on the list do not identify as civil society members but have an > interest in internet governance and like to follow activities here (and > others choose to have more than one email address on list). By comparison, > the number of voters in the last election where there was more than one > candidate and a vote took place was only 99. > > LimeSurvey software was used and adopted for election purposes. We wish to > acknowledge the help of a small group of testers who helped us to refine > the software – Norbert Bollow, Farzaneh Badii, Deirdre Williams, Peter > Akinremi Taiwo, Arsene Tungali, and Chris Prince Udochukwu Njọkụ. > > Invitations to vote were sent on September 11. A follow up email to those > who had not yet voted was sent on September 18. Other reminders were posted > on the IGC Caucus mailing list. Voting closed on September 23. > > The mailing process resulted in 14 bounced emails, including 7 auto > responses indicating that the mailing address was no longer in use: these > will be referred to the incoming coordinators to refine the list. > > One person accidentally voted twice using separate emails. One of these > votes was eliminated. > > The software required people to confirm their eligibility to vote by > answering four basic questions: > > a. that they identify as a member of civil society > > b. that they have been subscribed to IGC mailing list for more than 2 > months > > c. that they accept the IGC Charter > > d. that they have not already voted in this election (perhaps utilising > another email address) > > In addition to the 148 people who completed the voting process, an > additional 39 people who had commenced the process determined not to > continue before reaching the voting page. > > The system was not preferential. All votes for all candidates were of > equal value. > > All in all, we believe the process went smoothly, drew a good level of > participation, and helped strengthen IGC. This would not have happened > without the strong groundswell of involvement from many people, reflected > in the level of participation in voting and the overall interest in seeing > this occur in a timely fashion. It also could not have happened without the > strong preliminary work of the Tech Team, led by Imran Ahmed Shah, which > restored the website of IGC, creating the basic infrastructure that allowed > us to develop a voting system and conduct this exercise. They also deserve > your thanks. > > As determined in discussions including with the previous Coordinator, > voting totals for each candidate have been released, as well as names of > all those who voted and therefore are now members of IGC. In line with > general privacy and GDPR provisions, other details of voters (email > addresses etc) will not be released, not will details of who voted for > which candidates. The detailed voting slips will be kept for a period of > three months, or longer if necessary to resolve any appeals, and will then > be erased. The core of the voting software will be retained for possible > future use. > > > Ian Peter and Tapani Tarvainen > > Returning Officers > > > > > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Fri Sep 6 04:00:02 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Remmy Nweke (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 09:00:02 +0100 Subject: [governance] Co coordinator elections - here are the candidates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Weldone to our returning officers. Nice to see interesting candidates. Good luck to them. Remmy On Thu, Sep 5, 2019, 9:41 PM Antonio Medina Gómez < governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: > Thank you Ian. > Antonio Medina Gómez > Asociación Colombiana de Usuarios de Internet > Celular 3223116317 > > > El jue., 5 sept. 2019 a las 14:58, ian.peter at ianpeter.com (< > ian.peter at ianpeter.com>) escribió: > >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> Nominations for the Co coordinator positions have now closed. There were >> four nominations during the period, but one (Olivier MJ Crepin LeBlond) >> declined. >> >> We are left then with a field of three candidates, who are (in no >> particular order) >> >> Sheetal Kumar >> Imran Ahmed Shah >> Bruna Martins dos Santos >> >> Over the next few days we will be formalising the confirmations and >> getting the voting papers ready - and candidates may provide on line an >> updated 300 word statement if they so wish which will be linked to on the >> ballot paper. The order of names on the ballot paper will be drawn from a >> hat:. >> >> You can expect to receive your individual ballot paper in a few days - I >> will notify the list at the time they are ready to be sent out so you can >> be sure to look out for it. >> >> Thank you to each of the candidates for volunteering to assist IGC in >> this way. >> >> >> Ian Peter and Tapani Tarvainen >> Returning Officers >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> To unsubscribe: >> List help: >> > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ian.peter at ianpeter.com Fri Sep 6 04:44:31 2019 From: ian.peter at ianpeter.com (ian.peter at ianpeter.com) Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2019 08:44:31 +0000 Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I wish there was an easy answer to this Michael. But as I understand it, we are dealing with a whole-of-UN problem, not just an IGF one. For whatever historic reasons, and they are to do with recognition of the Peoples Republic of China, Taiwan is not recognised by the UN as a nation state - although they would like to be and have a few allies pushing their cause. I believe it goes back to 1971. China's attitude has been "The United Nations is an international organization composed of sovereign states.Taiwan as a province of China is completely not qualified and has no right to participate in it. Due to the well-known reasons, the Taiwan authorities illegally usurped China's UN seat for as long as 22 years" (http://ae.china-embassy.org/eng/zt/twwt/t150866.htm) But having said that - others might be able to provide more background - since IGF is not a meeting of nation states, but also includes civil society and other stakeholders, one would think there might be a way around it. Yes, to register one needs a passport - maybe an ally of Taiwan would be prepared to issue passports or acceptab;e documents for Taiwanese citizens? I don't know how we could get around this, just brainstorming. In an ideal IGF, stateless people would have a voice and be able to attend, subject of course to standard security clearances. Maybe MAG could explore this? Ian Peter ------ Original Message ------ From: "Michael J. Oghia" To: "IGC" Sent: 6/09/2019 5:49:07 PM Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF >Hi everyone, > >I'd like to raise a serious concern I have regarding the IGF. A contact >of mine in Taiwan is having trouble registering for the IGF. She solely >has a Taiwanese passport, but the IGF, as a UN event, can only register >individuals who have a passport from a UN member state (of which Taiwan >is not a member). I checked with the IGF Secretariat, and >unfortunately, there's not much they can do about it. > >I know that the politics surrounding China and Taiwan are contentious, >however, this essentially means that she (and anyone else) from Taiwan >– more than 23.5 million people – are essentially barred from attending >the IGF if they don't have another passport. > >I find this deeply problematic and in violation of the fundamental >principles of the multi-stakeholder model, namely the fact that it's >meant to be inclusive and open to all. > >Has anyone encountered this problem in the past, either in the IG >sector or another development sector? Does anyone have ideas for how it >can be resolved? I'm well aware this is not the first instance of a >Taiwanese national being excluded from participation in a global event, >so perhaps this is a moot point and no one can help. Still, it still >strikes me as incredibly unjust and unfair that regional politics would >prevent individuals from attending the IGF. > >Best, >-Michael >__________________ > >Michael J. Oghia | Advocacy & Engagement Manager >Global Forum for Media Development (GFMD ) >Belgrade, Serbia | Twitter | >LinkedIn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Fri Sep 6 04:52:32 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Michael J. Oghia" (via governance Mailing List) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 10:52:32 +0200 Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Ian, Thanks so much for this thoughtful response, and indeed, I sent it in frustration. I realise, however, that this issue goes way beyond the IGF. Moreover, since a member of the Chinese government is a member of the MAG, I seriously doubt the MAG would even be open to discussing it. The point you raise about stateless individuals is an interesting one, though, as I don't know what the protocol is for that. Taiwan nationals clearly aren't stateless, though, so those are two separate points (regardless, I still recommend the IGF develop a procedure for including stateless individuals/groups). It seems this is an injustice that will have to pursue, and she can attend remotely if interested. Best, -Michael On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM ian.peter at ianpeter.com < ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote: > I wish there was an easy answer to this Michael. > > But as I understand it, we are dealing with a whole-of-UN problem, not > just an IGF one. For whatever historic reasons, and they are to do with > recognition of the Peoples Republic of China, Taiwan is not recognised by > the UN as a nation state - although they would like to be and have a few > allies pushing their cause. > > I believe it goes back to 1971. China's attitude has been "The *United > Nations* is an international organization composed of sovereign states. > *Taiwan* as a province of China is completely *not* qualified and *has no* right > to participate in it. Due to the well-known reasons, the *Taiwan* authorities > illegally usurped China's *UN* seat for as long as 22 years" ( > http://ae.china-embassy.org/eng/zt/twwt/t150866.htm) > > But having said that - others might be able to provide more background - > since IGF is not a meeting of nation states, but also includes civil > society and other stakeholders, one would think there might be a way > around it. Yes, to register one needs a passport - maybe an ally of Taiwan > would be prepared to issue passports or acceptab;e documents for Taiwanese > citizens? > > I don't know how we could get around this, just brainstorming. In an ideal > IGF, stateless people would have a voice and be able to attend, subject of > course to standard security clearances. Maybe MAG could explore this? > > > Ian Peter > > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Michael J. Oghia" > To: "IGC" > Sent: 6/09/2019 5:49:07 PM > Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF > > Hi everyone, > > I'd like to raise a serious concern I have regarding the IGF. A contact of > mine in Taiwan is having trouble registering for the IGF. She solely has a > Taiwanese passport, but the IGF, as a UN event, can only register > individuals who have a passport from a UN member state (of which Taiwan is > not a member). I checked with the IGF Secretariat, and unfortunately, > there's not much they can do about it. > > I know that the politics surrounding China and Taiwan are contentious, > however, this essentially means that she (and anyone else) from Taiwan – > more than 23.5 million people – are essentially barred from attending the > IGF if they don't have another passport. > > I find this *deeply problematic* and in violation of the fundamental > principles of the multi-stakeholder model, namely the fact that it's meant > to be inclusive and open to all. > > Has anyone encountered this problem in the past, either in the IG sector > or another development sector? Does anyone have ideas for how it can be > resolved? I'm well aware this is not the first instance of a Taiwanese > national being excluded from participation in a global event, so perhaps > this is a moot point and no one can help. Still, it still strikes me as > incredibly unjust and unfair that regional politics would prevent > individuals from attending the IGF. > > Best, > -Michael > __________________ > > Michael J. Oghia | Advocacy & Engagement Manager > Global Forum for Media Development (GFMD ) > Belgrade, Serbia | Twitter | LinkedIn > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tapani.tarvainen at effi.org Fri Sep 6 05:50:31 2019 From: tapani.tarvainen at effi.org (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 12:50:31 +0300 Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20190906095031.GB11102@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> Just a minor point but Taiwan is not the only country that isn't a member of the UN (others include Vatican, Palestine, Kosovo, Niue, Cook Islands at least). If someone wants to push this it might be better to frame it more generically rather being than just about Taiwan. Tapani On Sep 06 08:44, ian.peter at ianpeter.com (ian.peter at ianpeter.com) wrote: > I wish there was an easy answer to this Michael. > > But as I understand it, we are dealing with a whole-of-UN problem, > not just an IGF one. For whatever historic reasons, and they are to > do with recognition of the Peoples Republic of China, Taiwan is not > recognised by the UN as a nation state - although they would like to > be and have a few allies pushing their cause. > > I believe it goes back to 1971. China's attitude has been "The > United Nations is an international organization composed of > sovereign states.Taiwan as a province of China is completely not > qualified and has no right to participate in it. Due to the > well-known reasons, the Taiwan authorities illegally usurped China's > UN seat for as long as 22 years" > (http://ae.china-embassy.org/eng/zt/twwt/t150866.htm) > > But having said that - others might be able to provide more > background - since IGF is not a meeting of nation states, but also > includes civil society and other stakeholders, one would think there > might be a way around it. Yes, to register one needs a passport - > maybe an ally of Taiwan would be prepared to issue passports or > acceptab;e documents for Taiwanese citizens? > > I don't know how we could get around this, just brainstorming. In an > ideal IGF, stateless people would have a voice and be able to > attend, subject of course to standard security clearances. Maybe MAG > could explore this? > > > Ian Peter > > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Michael J. Oghia" > To: "IGC" > Sent: 6/09/2019 5:49:07 PM > Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF > > >Hi everyone, > > > >I'd like to raise a serious concern I have regarding the IGF. A > >contact of mine in Taiwan is having trouble registering for the > >IGF. She solely has a Taiwanese passport, but the IGF, as a UN > >event, can only register individuals who have a passport from a UN > >member state (of which Taiwan is not a member). I checked with the > >IGF Secretariat, and unfortunately, there's not much they can do > >about it. > > > >I know that the politics surrounding China and Taiwan are > >contentious, however, this essentially means that she (and anyone > >else) from Taiwan – more than 23.5 million people – are > >essentially barred from attending the IGF if they don't have > >another passport. > > > >I find this deeply problematic and in violation of the fundamental > >principles of the multi-stakeholder model, namely the fact that > >it's meant to be inclusive and open to all. > > > >Has anyone encountered this problem in the past, either in the IG > >sector or another development sector? Does anyone have ideas for > >how it can be resolved? I'm well aware this is not the first > >instance of a Taiwanese national being excluded from participation > >in a global event, so perhaps this is a moot point and no one can > >help. Still, it still strikes me as incredibly unjust and unfair > >that regional politics would prevent individuals from attending > >the IGF. > > > >Best, > >-Michael > >__________________ > > > >Michael J. Oghia | Advocacy & Engagement Manager > >Global Forum for Media Development (GFMD ) > >Belgrade, Serbia | Twitter | > >LinkedIn From governance at lists.riseup.net Fri Sep 6 05:56:58 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Fouad Bajwa (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 14:56:58 +0500 Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF In-Reply-To: <20190906095031.GB11102@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> References: <20190906095031.GB11102@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> Message-ID: Maybe use remote participation and express this concern collectively? On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 2:51 PM Tapani Tarvainen wrote: > Just a minor point but Taiwan is not the only country that isn't a > member of the UN (others include Vatican, Palestine, Kosovo, Niue, > Cook Islands at least). If someone wants to push this it might be > better to frame it more generically rather being than just about > Taiwan. > > Tapani > > On Sep 06 08:44, ian.peter at ianpeter.com (ian.peter at ianpeter.com) wrote: > > > I wish there was an easy answer to this Michael. > > > > But as I understand it, we are dealing with a whole-of-UN problem, > > not just an IGF one. For whatever historic reasons, and they are to > > do with recognition of the Peoples Republic of China, Taiwan is not > > recognised by the UN as a nation state - although they would like to > > be and have a few allies pushing their cause. > > > > I believe it goes back to 1971. China's attitude has been "The > > United Nations is an international organization composed of > > sovereign states.Taiwan as a province of China is completely not > > qualified and has no right to participate in it. Due to the > > well-known reasons, the Taiwan authorities illegally usurped China's > > UN seat for as long as 22 years" > > (http://ae.china-embassy.org/eng/zt/twwt/t150866.htm) > > > > But having said that - others might be able to provide more > > background - since IGF is not a meeting of nation states, but also > > includes civil society and other stakeholders, one would think there > > might be a way around it. Yes, to register one needs a passport - > > maybe an ally of Taiwan would be prepared to issue passports or > > acceptab;e documents for Taiwanese citizens? > > > > I don't know how we could get around this, just brainstorming. In an > > ideal IGF, stateless people would have a voice and be able to > > attend, subject of course to standard security clearances. Maybe MAG > > could explore this? > > > > > > Ian Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > > From: "Michael J. Oghia" > > To: "IGC" > > Sent: 6/09/2019 5:49:07 PM > > Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF > > > > >Hi everyone, > > > > > >I'd like to raise a serious concern I have regarding the IGF. A > > >contact of mine in Taiwan is having trouble registering for the > > >IGF. She solely has a Taiwanese passport, but the IGF, as a UN > > >event, can only register individuals who have a passport from a UN > > >member state (of which Taiwan is not a member). I checked with the > > >IGF Secretariat, and unfortunately, there's not much they can do > > >about it. > > > > > >I know that the politics surrounding China and Taiwan are > > >contentious, however, this essentially means that she (and anyone > > >else) from Taiwan – more than 23.5 million people – are > > >essentially barred from attending the IGF if they don't have > > >another passport. > > > > > >I find this deeply problematic and in violation of the fundamental > > >principles of the multi-stakeholder model, namely the fact that > > >it's meant to be inclusive and open to all. > > > > > >Has anyone encountered this problem in the past, either in the IG > > >sector or another development sector? Does anyone have ideas for > > >how it can be resolved? I'm well aware this is not the first > > >instance of a Taiwanese national being excluded from participation > > >in a global event, so perhaps this is a moot point and no one can > > >help. Still, it still strikes me as incredibly unjust and unfair > > >that regional politics would prevent individuals from attending > > >the IGF. > > > > > >Best, > > >-Michael > > >__________________ > > > > > >Michael J. Oghia | Advocacy & Engagement Manager > > >Global Forum for Media Development (GFMD ) > > >Belgrade, Serbia | Twitter | > > >LinkedIn > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -- Regards. -------------------------- Fouad Bajwa Public Policy Analyst Follow my Tweets: http://twitter.com/fouadbajwa My Blog: Internet's Governance: http://internetsgovernance.blogspot.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If someone wants to push this it might be >better to frame it more generically rather being than just about >Taiwan. > >Tapani > >On Sep 06 08:44, ian.peter at ianpeter.com (ian.peter at ianpeter.com) wrote: > >> I wish there was an easy answer to this Michael. >> >> But as I understand it, we are dealing with a whole-of-UN problem, >> not just an IGF one. For whatever historic reasons, and they are to >> do with recognition of the Peoples Republic of China, Taiwan is not >> recognised by the UN as a nation state - although they would like to >> be and have a few allies pushing their cause. >> >> I believe it goes back to 1971. China's attitude has been "The >> United Nations is an international organization composed of >> sovereign states.Taiwan as a province of China is completely not >> qualified and has no right to participate in it. Due to the >> well-known reasons, the Taiwan authorities illegally usurped China's >> UN seat for as long as 22 years" >> (http://ae.china-embassy.org/eng/zt/twwt/t150866.htm) >> >> But having said that - others might be able to provide more >> background - since IGF is not a meeting of nation states, but also >> includes civil society and other stakeholders, one would think there >> might be a way around it. Yes, to register one needs a passport - >> maybe an ally of Taiwan would be prepared to issue passports or >> acceptab;e documents for Taiwanese citizens? >> >> I don't know how we could get around this, just brainstorming. In an >> ideal IGF, stateless people would have a voice and be able to >> attend, subject of course to standard security clearances. Maybe MAG >> could explore this? >> >> >> Ian Peter >> >> >> >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Michael J. Oghia" >> To: "IGC" >> Sent: 6/09/2019 5:49:07 PM >> Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF >> >> >Hi everyone, >> > >> >I'd like to raise a serious concern I have regarding the IGF. A >> >contact of mine in Taiwan is having trouble registering for the >> >IGF. She solely has a Taiwanese passport, but the IGF, as a UN >> >event, can only register individuals who have a passport from a UN >> >member state (of which Taiwan is not a member). I checked with the >> >IGF Secretariat, and unfortunately, there's not much they can do >> >about it. >> > >> >I know that the politics surrounding China and Taiwan are >> >contentious, however, this essentially means that she (and anyone >> >else) from Taiwan – more than 23.5 million people – are >> >essentially barred from attending the IGF if they don't have >> >another passport. >> > >> >I find this deeply problematic and in violation of the fundamental >> >principles of the multi-stakeholder model, namely the fact that >> >it's meant to be inclusive and open to all. >> > >> >Has anyone encountered this problem in the past, either in the IG >> >sector or another development sector? Does anyone have ideas for >> >how it can be resolved? I'm well aware this is not the first >> >instance of a Taiwanese national being excluded from participation >> >in a global event, so perhaps this is a moot point and no one can >> >help. Still, it still strikes me as incredibly unjust and unfair >> >that regional politics would prevent individuals from attending >> >the IGF. >> > >> >Best, >> >-Michael >> >__________________ >> > >> >Michael J. Oghia | Advocacy & Engagement Manager >> >Global Forum for Media Development (GFMD ) >> >Belgrade, Serbia | Twitter | >> >LinkedIn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Fri Sep 6 06:02:22 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (chlebrum ." (via governance Mailing List) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 12:02:22 +0200 Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF In-Reply-To: <20190906095031.GB11102@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> References: <20190906095031.GB11102@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> Message-ID: FYI, Vatican and Palestine were present at the WSIS in Geneva in 2003 and 2005 in Tunis, they have been participating in the IGF since the beginning. It is impossible to follow an IGF in remote access, the most important being meetings with people around the booths and the many workshops, only the plenary discussions are recorded, right? Chantal Lebrument Courriel: c hlebrum at gmail.com Twitter: OpenRoot1 Le ven. 6 sept. 2019 à 11:51, Tapani Tarvainen a écrit : > Just a minor point but Taiwan is not the only country that isn't a > member of the UN (others include Vatican, Palestine, Kosovo, Niue, > Cook Islands at least). If someone wants to push this it might be > better to frame it more generically rather being than just about > Taiwan. > > Tapani > > On Sep 06 08:44, ian.peter at ianpeter.com (ian.peter at ianpeter.com) wrote: > > > I wish there was an easy answer to this Michael. > > > > But as I understand it, we are dealing with a whole-of-UN problem, > > not just an IGF one. For whatever historic reasons, and they are to > > do with recognition of the Peoples Republic of China, Taiwan is not > > recognised by the UN as a nation state - although they would like to > > be and have a few allies pushing their cause. > > > > I believe it goes back to 1971. China's attitude has been "The > > United Nations is an international organization composed of > > sovereign states.Taiwan as a province of China is completely not > > qualified and has no right to participate in it. Due to the > > well-known reasons, the Taiwan authorities illegally usurped China's > > UN seat for as long as 22 years" > > (http://ae.china-embassy.org/eng/zt/twwt/t150866.htm) > > > > But having said that - others might be able to provide more > > background - since IGF is not a meeting of nation states, but also > > includes civil society and other stakeholders, one would think there > > might be a way around it. Yes, to register one needs a passport - > > maybe an ally of Taiwan would be prepared to issue passports or > > acceptab;e documents for Taiwanese citizens? > > > > I don't know how we could get around this, just brainstorming. In an > > ideal IGF, stateless people would have a voice and be able to > > attend, subject of course to standard security clearances. Maybe MAG > > could explore this? > > > > > > Ian Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > > From: "Michael J. Oghia" > > To: "IGC" > > Sent: 6/09/2019 5:49:07 PM > > Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF > > > > >Hi everyone, > > > > > >I'd like to raise a serious concern I have regarding the IGF. A > > >contact of mine in Taiwan is having trouble registering for the > > >IGF. She solely has a Taiwanese passport, but the IGF, as a UN > > >event, can only register individuals who have a passport from a UN > > >member state (of which Taiwan is not a member). I checked with the > > >IGF Secretariat, and unfortunately, there's not much they can do > > >about it. > > > > > >I know that the politics surrounding China and Taiwan are > > >contentious, however, this essentially means that she (and anyone > > >else) from Taiwan – more than 23.5 million people – are > > >essentially barred from attending the IGF if they don't have > > >another passport. > > > > > >I find this deeply problematic and in violation of the fundamental > > >principles of the multi-stakeholder model, namely the fact that > > >it's meant to be inclusive and open to all. > > > > > >Has anyone encountered this problem in the past, either in the IG > > >sector or another development sector? Does anyone have ideas for > > >how it can be resolved? I'm well aware this is not the first > > >instance of a Taiwanese national being excluded from participation > > >in a global event, so perhaps this is a moot point and no one can > > >help. Still, it still strikes me as incredibly unjust and unfair > > >that regional politics would prevent individuals from attending > > >the IGF. > > > > > >Best, > > >-Michael > > >__________________ > > > > > >Michael J. Oghia | Advocacy & Engagement Manager > > >Global Forum for Media Development (GFMD ) > > >Belgrade, Serbia | Twitter | > > >LinkedIn > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tapani.tarvainen at effi.org Fri Sep 6 06:30:17 2019 From: tapani.tarvainen at effi.org (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 13:30:17 +0300 Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF In-Reply-To: References: <20190906095031.GB11102@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> Message-ID: <20190906103017.GC11102@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> Vatican and Palestine do have observer status in the UN even though they're not members, it may make a difference. And I'm pretty sure just about everyone in Vatican has also another passport, probably quite a few in Palestine as well. But still, appealing to them as precedent might be worth a shot. -- Tapani Tarvainen On Sep 06 12:02, chlebrum . (chlebrum at gmail.com) wrote: > FYI, Vatican and Palestine were present at the WSIS in Geneva in 2003 and > 2005 in Tunis, they have been participating in the IGF since the beginning. > It is impossible to follow an IGF in remote access, the most important > being meetings with people around the booths and the many workshops, only > the plenary discussions are recorded, right? > > Chantal Lebrument > Courriel: c hlebrum at gmail.com > Twitter: OpenRoot1 > > > Le ven. 6 sept. 2019 à 11:51, Tapani Tarvainen > a écrit : > > > Just a minor point but Taiwan is not the only country that isn't a > > member of the UN (others include Vatican, Palestine, Kosovo, Niue, > > Cook Islands at least). If someone wants to push this it might be > > better to frame it more generically rather being than just about > > Taiwan. > > > > Tapani > > > > On Sep 06 08:44, ian.peter at ianpeter.com (ian.peter at ianpeter.com) wrote: > > > > > I wish there was an easy answer to this Michael. > > > > > > But as I understand it, we are dealing with a whole-of-UN problem, > > > not just an IGF one. For whatever historic reasons, and they are to > > > do with recognition of the Peoples Republic of China, Taiwan is not > > > recognised by the UN as a nation state - although they would like to > > > be and have a few allies pushing their cause. > > > > > > I believe it goes back to 1971. China's attitude has been "The > > > United Nations is an international organization composed of > > > sovereign states.Taiwan as a province of China is completely not > > > qualified and has no right to participate in it. Due to the > > > well-known reasons, the Taiwan authorities illegally usurped China's > > > UN seat for as long as 22 years" > > > (http://ae.china-embassy.org/eng/zt/twwt/t150866.htm) > > > > > > But having said that - others might be able to provide more > > > background - since IGF is not a meeting of nation states, but also > > > includes civil society and other stakeholders, one would think there > > > might be a way around it. Yes, to register one needs a passport - > > > maybe an ally of Taiwan would be prepared to issue passports or > > > acceptab;e documents for Taiwanese citizens? > > > > > > I don't know how we could get around this, just brainstorming. In an > > > ideal IGF, stateless people would have a voice and be able to > > > attend, subject of course to standard security clearances. Maybe MAG > > > could explore this? > > > > > > > > > Ian Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > > > From: "Michael J. Oghia" > > > To: "IGC" > > > Sent: 6/09/2019 5:49:07 PM > > > Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF > > > > > > >Hi everyone, > > > > > > > >I'd like to raise a serious concern I have regarding the IGF. A > > > >contact of mine in Taiwan is having trouble registering for the > > > >IGF. She solely has a Taiwanese passport, but the IGF, as a UN > > > >event, can only register individuals who have a passport from a UN > > > >member state (of which Taiwan is not a member). I checked with the > > > >IGF Secretariat, and unfortunately, there's not much they can do > > > >about it. > > > > > > > >I know that the politics surrounding China and Taiwan are > > > >contentious, however, this essentially means that she (and anyone > > > >else) from Taiwan – more than 23.5 million people – are > > > >essentially barred from attending the IGF if they don't have > > > >another passport. > > > > > > > >I find this deeply problematic and in violation of the fundamental > > > >principles of the multi-stakeholder model, namely the fact that > > > >it's meant to be inclusive and open to all. > > > > > > > >Has anyone encountered this problem in the past, either in the IG > > > >sector or another development sector? Does anyone have ideas for > > > >how it can be resolved? I'm well aware this is not the first > > > >instance of a Taiwanese national being excluded from participation > > > >in a global event, so perhaps this is a moot point and no one can > > > >help. Still, it still strikes me as incredibly unjust and unfair > > > >that regional politics would prevent individuals from attending > > > >the IGF. > > > > > > > >Best, > > > >-Michael > > > >__________________ > > > > > > > >Michael J. Oghia | Advocacy & Engagement Manager > > > >Global Forum for Media Development (GFMD ) > > > >Belgrade, Serbia | Twitter | > > > >LinkedIn > > --- > > To unsubscribe: > > List help: > > From governance at lists.riseup.net Mon Sep 2 07:05:42 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne?= Tungali (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 13:05:42 +0200 Subject: [governance] Fwd: [Wg-oe] UNDESA Internship in the Secretariat of the Internet Governance Forum (IGF) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: FYI ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: UNOG-IGF Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 10:06:13 +0000 Subject: [Wg-oe] UNDESA Internship in the Secretariat of the Internet Governance Forum (IGF) To: UNOG-IGF This is a kind reminder that there is an open internship position of the United Nations Department of Economic and Social Affairs (UNDESA) at the Internet Governance Forum (IGF) Secretariat in Geneva, Switzerland. Interested stakeholders are invited to review the internship requirements at the IGF website: https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/undesa-internship-in-the-secretariat-of-the-internet-governance-forum-igf and submit their applications as soon as possible. Best regards, IGF Secretariat _______________________________________________ Wg-oe mailing list Wg-oe at intgovforum.org To unsubscribe or manage your options please go to http://intgovforum.org/mailman/listinfo/wg-oe_intgovforum.org -- ------------------------ **Arsène Tungali* * Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international *, CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, Tel: +243 993810967 (DRC) GPG: 523644A0 2015 Mandela Washington Fellow < http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html> (YALI) - ICANN GNSO Council Member Member. UN IGF MAG Member From governance at lists.riseup.net Fri Sep 6 06:28:46 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" (via governance Mailing List) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 11:28:46 +0100 Subject: [governance] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wonderful, thanks Sheetal. On Thu, 5 Sep 2019, 11:40 pm Sheetal Kumar, wrote: > Dear all, > > Thank you again to Deirdre for the nomination, and to the returning > officers for all their efforts so far. I include below my statement. > > *My name is Sheetal Kumar, and I’m based in London, UK where I’m a > Programme Lead at Global Partners Digital (GPD). I believe the role of IGC > coordinator requires enthusiasm, understanding of internet policy issues, > organisational and facilitation skills. At GPD, I have experience in > facilitating civil society engagement in internet policy and governance > spaces, including at the global level where I’ve been working on ensuring > greater openness, inclusivity and transparency for civil society engagement > in multistakeholder and multilateral processes. For example, I’ve supported > coordination of civil society in the WSIS+10 Review Process, and other > global processes including the ICDPPC, the G20, the UNHRC and more recently > the HLP and the UN First Committee. Currently, I lead a cybersecurity > capacity building programme which supports civil society organisations to > promote and protect human rights in relevant discussions at the national > and global levels. * > > > > *In addition, I represented Bestbits at the CSCG where I helped to > coordinate the involvement of the previous Bestbits network in the CSCG. > I’ve also been an active participant in the civil society pre-IGF > coordination mee*tings, *as well as a participant of the IGF and its > intersessional activities, most recently the BPF on cybersecurity.* > > > > *I’ve been helping to lead the discussions regarding the closure of > Bestbits and been involved in the related discussions regarding the IGC’s > revival. As the internet and digital technologies become increasingly > relevant, we need a coordinated and strong civil society presence which > meaningfully involves a diverse and wide range of voices more than ever. I > believe my experience in the field of internet policy, relationships with a > wide range of stakeholders in the community, and my facilitation of the > closing of Bestbits process, as well as my strong organisational skills > will support me to carry out a role as IGC coordinator. * > > > On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 at 00:06, ahmed eisa wrote: > >> Dear friends >> I support the nomination of Sheetal because she is one of the best active >> civil society I met and she deserve the nomination >> Ahmed eisa Sudan >> >> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 6:13 PM Sheetal Kumar >> wrote: >> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> Thank you to Deirdre for the nomination, and to others for their >>> expression of support so far. I appreciate the trust and support and I'll >>> send the 300 word statement as requested in the next week. >>> >>> Best wishes >>> Sheetal. >>> >>> On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 at 23:50, Remmy Nweke wrote: >>> >>>> Supported >>>> ____ >>>> REMMY NWEKE, mNGE, >>>> Lead Consulting Strategist/Group Executive Editor, >>>> DigitalSENSE Africa Media [*Multiple-award winning medium*] >>>> (DigitalSENSE Business News >>>> ; ITREALMS >>>> , NaijaAgroNet >>>> ) >>>> Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, >>>> Oshodi-Lagos >>>> M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms >>>> >>>> Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria >>>> >>>> >>>> *2020 Nigeria DigitalSENSE Forum on IG4D & Nigeria IPv6 Roundtable >>>> * >>>> JOIN us!! >>>> >>>> *Vice President, African Civil Society on the Information Society >>>> (ACSIS ) >>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>> *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and >>>> attachments are confidential and may also be privileged information. 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URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Fri Sep 6 07:11:19 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Nadira Alaraj (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 14:11:19 +0300 Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF In-Reply-To: <20190906095031.GB11102@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> References: <20190906095031.GB11102@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> Message-ID: Thanks to Michael for kicking of this discussion, and thanks to the insights of Ian and Tapani, In my case as Palestinian, I worked with the secretariat to add Palestine on the countries list because it was accepted as an observing country like the Vatican. If the Vatican is not listed then it seems no one followed on this issue. Earlier we used to apply as Jordanian because Palestinian in the West bank and Jerusalem are allowed to have a temporary Jordanian passport. Hence Ian's advise could work if the host country can issue this temporary passport, with limited timespan say one year. This is just an idea, Best wishes Nadira On Fri, Sep 6, 2019, 12:51 Tapani Tarvainen wrote: > Just a minor point but Taiwan is not the only country that isn't a > member of the UN (others include Vatican, Palestine, Kosovo, Niue, > Cook Islands at least). If someone wants to push this it might be > better to frame it more generically rather being than just about > Taiwan. > > Tapani > > On Sep 06 08:44, ian.peter at ianpeter.com (ian.peter at ianpeter.com) wrote: > > > I wish there was an easy answer to this Michael. > > > > But as I understand it, we are dealing with a whole-of-UN problem, > > not just an IGF one. For whatever historic reasons, and they are to > > do with recognition of the Peoples Republic of China, Taiwan is not > > recognised by the UN as a nation state - although they would like to > > be and have a few allies pushing their cause. > > > > I believe it goes back to 1971. China's attitude has been "The > > United Nations is an international organization composed of > > sovereign states.Taiwan as a province of China is completely not > > qualified and has no right to participate in it. Due to the > > well-known reasons, the Taiwan authorities illegally usurped China's > > UN seat for as long as 22 years" > > (http://ae.china-embassy.org/eng/zt/twwt/t150866.htm) > > > > But having said that - others might be able to provide more > > background - since IGF is not a meeting of nation states, but also > > includes civil society and other stakeholders, one would think there > > might be a way around it. Yes, to register one needs a passport - > > maybe an ally of Taiwan would be prepared to issue passports or > > acceptab;e documents for Taiwanese citizens? > > > > I don't know how we could get around this, just brainstorming. In an > > ideal IGF, stateless people would have a voice and be able to > > attend, subject of course to standard security clearances. Maybe MAG > > could explore this? > > > > > > Ian Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > > From: "Michael J. Oghia" > > To: "IGC" > > Sent: 6/09/2019 5:49:07 PM > > Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF > > > > >Hi everyone, > > > > > >I'd like to raise a serious concern I have regarding the IGF. A > > >contact of mine in Taiwan is having trouble registering for the > > >IGF. She solely has a Taiwanese passport, but the IGF, as a UN > > >event, can only register individuals who have a passport from a UN > > >member state (of which Taiwan is not a member). I checked with the > > >IGF Secretariat, and unfortunately, there's not much they can do > > >about it. > > > > > >I know that the politics surrounding China and Taiwan are > > >contentious, however, this essentially means that she (and anyone > > >else) from Taiwan – more than 23.5 million people – are > > >essentially barred from attending the IGF if they don't have > > >another passport. > > > > > >I find this deeply problematic and in violation of the fundamental > > >principles of the multi-stakeholder model, namely the fact that > > >it's meant to be inclusive and open to all. > > > > > >Has anyone encountered this problem in the past, either in the IG > > >sector or another development sector? Does anyone have ideas for > > >how it can be resolved? I'm well aware this is not the first > > >instance of a Taiwanese national being excluded from participation > > >in a global event, so perhaps this is a moot point and no one can > > >help. Still, it still strikes me as incredibly unjust and unfair > > >that regional politics would prevent individuals from attending > > >the IGF. > > > > > >Best, > > >-Michael > > >__________________ > > > > > >Michael J. Oghia | Advocacy & Engagement Manager > > >Global Forum for Media Development (GFMD ) > > >Belgrade, Serbia | Twitter | > > >LinkedIn > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Fri Sep 6 09:01:32 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Michael J. Oghia" (via governance Mailing List) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 15:01:32 +0200 Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF In-Reply-To: References: <20190906095031.GB11102@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> Message-ID: Hi everyone, Apologies in advance if I sound petulant. Hearing that she can't participate in person really made me angry and also feel helpless. I remember the words of Prof. Robin Kelley that he delivered at a guest lecture once, essentially that solidarity is standing up for injustice even if it doesn't impact you personally. Surely this is not the first time someone has been denied access to something solely because of the geographic lottery that is their birthplace. Anyways, thanks to everyone who chimed in about this. I already suggested remote participation to her. It seems that, as Nadira and others have suggested, that the case of the Vatican and especially Palestine are special. Also @Chantal – all IGF sessions are recorded (main sessions, DCs, BPFs, etc.), but many of the side meetings aren't – and honestly, those as with any conference, are often the most professionally meaningful. Have a good weekend all, -Michael On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 1:11 PM Nadira Alaraj wrote: > Thanks to Michael for kicking of this discussion, and thanks to the > insights of Ian and Tapani, > > In my case as Palestinian, I worked with the secretariat to add Palestine > on the countries list because it was accepted as an observing country like > the Vatican. If the Vatican is not listed then it seems no one followed on > this issue. > > Earlier we used to apply as Jordanian because Palestinian in the West bank > and Jerusalem are allowed to have a temporary Jordanian passport. Hence > Ian's advise could work if the host country can issue this temporary > passport, with limited timespan say one year. This is just an idea, > > Best wishes > Nadira > > On Fri, Sep 6, 2019, 12:51 Tapani Tarvainen > wrote: > >> Just a minor point but Taiwan is not the only country that isn't a >> member of the UN (others include Vatican, Palestine, Kosovo, Niue, >> Cook Islands at least). If someone wants to push this it might be >> better to frame it more generically rather being than just about >> Taiwan. >> >> Tapani >> >> On Sep 06 08:44, ian.peter at ianpeter.com (ian.peter at ianpeter.com) wrote: >> >> > I wish there was an easy answer to this Michael. >> > >> > But as I understand it, we are dealing with a whole-of-UN problem, >> > not just an IGF one. For whatever historic reasons, and they are to >> > do with recognition of the Peoples Republic of China, Taiwan is not >> > recognised by the UN as a nation state - although they would like to >> > be and have a few allies pushing their cause. >> > >> > I believe it goes back to 1971. China's attitude has been "The >> > United Nations is an international organization composed of >> > sovereign states.Taiwan as a province of China is completely not >> > qualified and has no right to participate in it. Due to the >> > well-known reasons, the Taiwan authorities illegally usurped China's >> > UN seat for as long as 22 years" >> > (http://ae.china-embassy.org/eng/zt/twwt/t150866.htm) >> > >> > But having said that - others might be able to provide more >> > background - since IGF is not a meeting of nation states, but also >> > includes civil society and other stakeholders, one would think there >> > might be a way around it. Yes, to register one needs a passport - >> > maybe an ally of Taiwan would be prepared to issue passports or >> > acceptab;e documents for Taiwanese citizens? >> > >> > I don't know how we could get around this, just brainstorming. In an >> > ideal IGF, stateless people would have a voice and be able to >> > attend, subject of course to standard security clearances. Maybe MAG >> > could explore this? >> > >> > >> > Ian Peter >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------ Original Message ------ >> > From: "Michael J. Oghia" >> > To: "IGC" >> > Sent: 6/09/2019 5:49:07 PM >> > Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF >> > >> > >Hi everyone, >> > > >> > >I'd like to raise a serious concern I have regarding the IGF. A >> > >contact of mine in Taiwan is having trouble registering for the >> > >IGF. She solely has a Taiwanese passport, but the IGF, as a UN >> > >event, can only register individuals who have a passport from a UN >> > >member state (of which Taiwan is not a member). I checked with the >> > >IGF Secretariat, and unfortunately, there's not much they can do >> > >about it. >> > > >> > >I know that the politics surrounding China and Taiwan are >> > >contentious, however, this essentially means that she (and anyone >> > >else) from Taiwan – more than 23.5 million people – are >> > >essentially barred from attending the IGF if they don't have >> > >another passport. >> > > >> > >I find this deeply problematic and in violation of the fundamental >> > >principles of the multi-stakeholder model, namely the fact that >> > >it's meant to be inclusive and open to all. >> > > >> > >Has anyone encountered this problem in the past, either in the IG >> > >sector or another development sector? Does anyone have ideas for >> > >how it can be resolved? I'm well aware this is not the first >> > >instance of a Taiwanese national being excluded from participation >> > >in a global event, so perhaps this is a moot point and no one can >> > >help. Still, it still strikes me as incredibly unjust and unfair >> > >that regional politics would prevent individuals from attending >> > >the IGF. >> > > >> > >Best, >> > >-Michael >> > >__________________ >> > > >> > >Michael J. Oghia | Advocacy & Engagement Manager >> > >Global Forum for Media Development (GFMD ) >> > >Belgrade, Serbia | Twitter | >> > >LinkedIn >> --- >> To unsubscribe: >> List help: >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sheetal at gp-digital.org Fri Sep 6 12:21:56 2019 From: sheetal at gp-digital.org (Sheetal Kumar) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 12:21:56 -0400 Subject: [governance] =?UTF-8?Q?Thoughts=3F_IGF=27s_Call_for_Feedback_to_t?= =?UTF-8?Q?he_High-Level_Panel_on_=E2=80=8EDigital_Cooperation_Report?= Message-ID: Dear all, Is anyone planning to provide an input into the IGF's consultation on the UN High Level Panel's recommendation 5 and the IGF Plus model? I've included the call below. Arsene shared it with the list a few weeks ago. In particular, are there any views among this group on the proposal for a "Global Commitment for ‎Digital Cooperation" and/or appointment of a Tech Envoy? Is this something we think as a civil society grouping we could get behind? Interested to hear your thoughts. Best Sheetal. One of the main sessions at the 14th IGF will be focused on Digital Cooperation and Internet Governance (scheduled for 26 November, 10:00-13:00 CEST, Main Hall). In preparation for this session, the *Call for Feedback to the High-Level Panel on **‎**Digital Cooperation Report's Recommendation 5 and the IGF Plus Model is now open*. Please review carefully the Report, especially the Recommendation 5 and the IGF Plus Model, and provide your written feedback by 30 September 2019 through the IGF website: https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/report-of-the-un-secretary-general%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%8Ehigh-level-panel-on-digital-cooperation. All received inputs will be synthesized in a written output document that will be posted in late October as an input to the above-mentioned main session during the 14th IGF in Berlin, where we will facilitate online as well as physical participation. -- *Sheetal Kumar* Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514 | PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31| -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Fri Sep 6 15:34:58 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Nnenna Nwakanma (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 19:34:58 +0000 Subject: [governance] =?UTF-8?Q?Thoughts=3F_IGF=27s_Call_for_Feedback_?= =?UTF-8?Q?to_the_High-Level_Panel_on_=E2=80=8EDigital_Cooperation_Report?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I plan to. I received an invite, though. N On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 4:22 PM Sheetal Kumar wrote: > Dear all, > > Is anyone planning to provide an input into the IGF's consultation on the > UN High Level Panel's recommendation 5 and the IGF Plus model? I've > included the call below. Arsene shared it with the list a few weeks ago. > > In particular, are there any views among this group on the proposal for a > "Global Commitment for ‎Digital Cooperation" and/or appointment of a Tech > Envoy? Is this something we think as a civil society grouping we could get > behind? > > Interested to hear your thoughts. > > Best > Sheetal. > > One of the main sessions at the 14th IGF will be focused on Digital > Cooperation and Internet Governance (scheduled for 26 November, 10:00-13:00 > CEST, Main Hall). In preparation for this session, the *Call for Feedback > to the High-Level Panel on **‎**Digital Cooperation Report's > Recommendation 5 and the IGF Plus Model is now open*. > > > > Please review carefully the Report, especially the Recommendation 5 and > the IGF Plus Model, and provide your written feedback by 30 September 2019 > through the IGF website: > https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/report-of-the-un-secretary-general%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%8Ehigh-level-panel-on-digital-cooperation. > All received inputs will be synthesized in a written output document that > will be posted in late October as an input to the above-mentioned main > session during the 14th IGF in Berlin, where we will facilitate online as > well as physical participation. > > > -- > > > *Sheetal Kumar* > Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL > Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL > T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514 | > PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603 > DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31| > > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Fri Sep 6 23:07:13 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" (via governance Mailing List) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2019 04:07:13 +0100 Subject: [governance] =?UTF-8?Q?Thoughts=3F_IGF=27s_Call_for_Feedback_?= =?UTF-8?Q?to_the_High-Level_Panel_on_=E2=80=8EDigital_Cooperation_Report?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I plan to as well. On Fri, 6 Sep 2019, 8:35 pm Nnenna Nwakanma, wrote: > I plan to. > > I received an invite, though. > > N > > On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 4:22 PM Sheetal Kumar > wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> Is anyone planning to provide an input into the IGF's consultation on the >> UN High Level Panel's recommendation 5 and the IGF Plus model? I've >> included the call below. Arsene shared it with the list a few weeks ago. >> >> In particular, are there any views among this group on the proposal for a >> "Global Commitment for ‎Digital Cooperation" and/or appointment of a Tech >> Envoy? Is this something we think as a civil society grouping we could get >> behind? >> >> Interested to hear your thoughts. >> >> Best >> Sheetal. >> >> One of the main sessions at the 14th IGF will be focused on Digital >> Cooperation and Internet Governance (scheduled for 26 November, 10:00-13:00 >> CEST, Main Hall). In preparation for this session, the *Call for >> Feedback to the High-Level Panel on **‎**Digital Cooperation Report's >> Recommendation 5 and the IGF Plus Model is now open*. >> >> >> >> Please review carefully the Report, especially the Recommendation 5 and >> the IGF Plus Model, and provide your written feedback by 30 September 2019 >> through the IGF website: >> https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/report-of-the-un-secretary-general%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%8Ehigh-level-panel-on-digital-cooperation. >> All received inputs will be synthesized in a written output document that >> will be posted in late October as an input to the above-mentioned main >> session during the 14th IGF in Berlin, where we will facilitate online as >> well as physical participation. >> >> >> -- >> >> >> *Sheetal Kumar* >> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL >> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL >> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514 | >> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603 >> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31| >> >> >> --- >> To unsubscribe: >> List help: >> > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Sat Sep 7 01:01:50 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Michael J. Oghia" (via governance Mailing List) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2019 07:01:50 +0200 Subject: [governance] =?UTF-8?Q?Thoughts=3F_IGF=27s_Call_for_Feedback_?= =?UTF-8?Q?to_the_High-Level_Panel_on_=E2=80=8EDigital_Cooperation_Report?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Sheetal, all: I wasn't planning to, but I'd be happy to contribute toward a joint civil society statement (similar to our initial response to the consultation). I don't have anything particularly important or insightful to add to or comment on the report, but perhaps if we worked on a united position that reflected CS concerns, we could at least add our organisation (GFMD) to a list of signatories. Best, -Michael On Sat, Sep 7, 2019, 5:16 AM "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" < governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: > I plan to as well. > > On Fri, 6 Sep 2019, 8:35 pm Nnenna Nwakanma, > wrote: > >> I plan to. >> >> I received an invite, though. >> >> N >> >> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 4:22 PM Sheetal Kumar >> wrote: >> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> Is anyone planning to provide an input into the IGF's consultation on >>> the UN High Level Panel's recommendation 5 and the IGF Plus model? I've >>> included the call below. Arsene shared it with the list a few weeks ago. >>> >>> In particular, are there any views among this group on the proposal for >>> a "Global Commitment for ‎Digital Cooperation" and/or appointment of a Tech >>> Envoy? Is this something we think as a civil society grouping we could get >>> behind? >>> >>> Interested to hear your thoughts. >>> >>> Best >>> Sheetal. >>> >>> One of the main sessions at the 14th IGF will be focused on Digital >>> Cooperation and Internet Governance (scheduled for 26 November, 10:00-13:00 >>> CEST, Main Hall). In preparation for this session, the *Call for >>> Feedback to the High-Level Panel on **‎**Digital Cooperation Report's >>> Recommendation 5 and the IGF Plus Model is now open*. >>> >>> >>> >>> Please review carefully the Report, especially the Recommendation 5 and >>> the IGF Plus Model, and provide your written feedback by 30 September 2019 >>> through the IGF website: >>> https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/report-of-the-un-secretary-general%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%8Ehigh-level-panel-on-digital-cooperation. >>> All received inputs will be synthesized in a written output document >>> that will be posted in late October as an input to the above-mentioned main >>> session during the 14th IGF in Berlin, where we will facilitate online as >>> well as physical participation. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> *Sheetal Kumar* >>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL >>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL >>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514 | >>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603 >>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31| >>> >>> >>> --- >>> To unsubscribe: >>> List help: >>> >> --- >> To unsubscribe: >> List help: >> > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Sat Sep 7 05:09:56 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Imran Ahmed Shah (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2019 09:09:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [governance] Nomination Imran Ahmed Shah In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1032820704.3636000.1567847396742@mail.yahoo.com> Dear Colleagues at IGCaucus, Knowing that IG Caucus CS was formed in the context of the WSIS to promote global public interest objectives in Internet governance policy making, I joined IGC in 2009, contributed actively in discussions and had been contestant in 2011-13, 2012-14, 2014-16 coco elections. Most of the IGC member knows that I had been member of BestBits Steering Committee 2014-15 and 2017-18 and has been part of the closure team.  Now, I understand that IGC has to play its important role at 15+ Review Process of WSIS & UN IGF Renewal at the “75th Anniversary of The United Nations'" in 2020 having its agenda of Renewal and Innovation. Are you prepare for that...? Let's reorganize the IGC to cope with the upcoming challenges. With the same aim recently played an active role to revive IGC Website (which had been compromised/ hijacked since last 18 months). I am thankful to IGC ex-coordinators, who nominated me, believing that IGC needs some resource like me. I accepted nomination on 28-Aug and shared my biodata (also attached herewith) with Scrutineers/ Returning Officers on 03-Sep, however I was advised to share shorter form statement by 7-Sep. My 300 words statement for the election is as follows: = Statement Starts Here = My name is Imran Ahmed Shah, belong to Pakistan (AP Region), serving Civil Society as Public-Policy advocate, Private-Sector as Technologist since 1985. Participating, Representing National, Regional & Global platforms & forums related to Public-Policy/IG/IP/Info-Sec matters. Established ‘Linguistic Internet Council’ and ‘Urdu Internet Society’ platforms to unite ‘Linguistic User Communities’ to form ‘Internet Layers’ with excellence. Established ‘Youth/IGF Pakistan’ following WSIS Tunis agenda. Remain involved with UN-GAID, UNESCO-Conference "Connecting the Dots” and WSIS 10+ Review Process, supporting CS instance. Achievements including ‘Two-Letter limitation Removal for IDN-ccTLD’, ‘100% waiver for developing countries in FastTrack’, ۔پاکستان dot Pakistan IDN ccTLD Registry, gTLDs conflict-resolution at ICANN36 at Seoul, Securing ISLA-Awards for InfoSec Professionals at SecureAsia at Jakarta/Tokyo/Philippine, ISOCPakistan rejuvenation, workshops at APrIGF-2013 at Seoul/2014 at NewDelhi/2015 at Macau on ‘Governance for the Internet of Kids/Teenagers/Youngsters’. Got Patent US9,779,066B2; PUNYCODE Conversion System for IDN-cc/gTLDs.   = Motivation/ Reason =   Ex-Coordinators strongly believe that: The IGC needs some Technical Expertise, if it is to run smoothly. …. Imran has stepped smoothly, and as generously, into Jeremy’s place, in providing the technical backup to get the IGC up and running again. As well as this he brings a perception of IG from the non-anglophone developing world, which it is crucially important should be part of a Civil Society “voice”. (Deirdre Williams) “.. it is critical that the nominees have been members for at least several years ensuring they have IGC context. Being on the Technical Team with Imran, his Leadership, Alacrity and Efficiency in execution-of-duties not to mention his Collaborative-Nature has been nothing short of impressive. Imran, has institutional memory, leadership skills and the connections needed to take the IGC from the ashes to position it where it needs to be, not just collaborating with //groups but making the IGC visible in diverse-spaces and restoring its credibility”. (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro) = Statement Ends Here = I will submit required information to the Returning Office with in given time frame (and will also share with you). Once again thanking you for your trust. Best Regards Imran Ahmed Shah On Tuesday, 27 August 2019, 23:17:50 GMT+5, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote: I second this nomination and add that it is critical that the nominees have been members for at least over several years to ensure that they have context of the IGC. Being on the technical team with Imran, his leadership, alacrity and efficiency in execution of duties not to mention his collaborative nature has been nothing short of impressive. Sala On Tue, 27 Aug 2019, 7:12 pm Deirdre Williams, wrote: Imran Ahmed Shah Country of residence: Pakistan I nominate Imran Ahmed Shah to be one of twoco-coordinators for the Internet Governance Caucus (IGC). The IGC needs sometechnical expertise if it is to run smoothly. Jeremy Malcolm has generouslybeen providing that for years – he needs a break. Imran has stepped smoothly,and as generously, into Jeremy’s place, in providing the technical backup toget the IGC up and running again. As well as this he brings a perception ofinternet governance from the non-anglophone developing world, which it iscrucially important should be part of a civil society “voice”. Deirdre Williams-- “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979--- To unsubscribe: List help: --- To unsubscribe: List help: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Sat Sep 7 06:52:52 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Nicolas Fiumarelli (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2019 07:52:52 -0300 Subject: [governance] =?UTF-8?Q?Thoughts=3F_IGF=27s_Call_for_Feedback_?= =?UTF-8?Q?to_the_High-Level_Panel_on_=E2=80=8EDigital_Cooperation_Report?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've added comments since the beginning of the LACIGF 2.0 process in latinamerica (added also as comments on IGF* at the report) about a software that could help the multistakeholder process via classification of actors and topics in a very easy way (like the software used at netmundial but more complex) taking notes of every input/output in a national->regional->global way. Also I highlighted the importance of sessional discussion to provide a basis draft ever so in that sense the discussion never will start from scratch again. Work on the work already done is the key. And provide this "nested-comments and paragraphs" publicly. Waiting for the results of the process. And always open to collaborate in multistakeholder matter. Nicolas - Youth IGF Uruguay El sábado, 7 de septiembre de 2019, "Michael J. Oghia" < governance at lists.riseup.net> escribió: > Hi Sheetal, all: > > I wasn't planning to, but I'd be happy to contribute toward a joint civil > society statement (similar to our initial response to the consultation). I > don't have anything particularly important or insightful to add to or > comment on the report, but perhaps if we worked on a united position that > reflected CS concerns, we could at least add our organisation (GFMD) to a > list of signatories. > > Best, > -Michael > > On Sat, Sep 7, 2019, 5:16 AM "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" < > governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: > >> I plan to as well. >> >> On Fri, 6 Sep 2019, 8:35 pm Nnenna Nwakanma, >> wrote: >> >>> I plan to. >>> >>> I received an invite, though. >>> >>> N >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 4:22 PM Sheetal Kumar >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear all, >>>> >>>> Is anyone planning to provide an input into the IGF's consultation on >>>> the UN High Level Panel's recommendation 5 and the IGF Plus model? I've >>>> included the call below. Arsene shared it with the list a few weeks ago. >>>> >>>> In particular, are there any views among this group on the proposal for >>>> a "Global Commitment for ‎Digital Cooperation" and/or appointment of a Tech >>>> Envoy? Is this something we think as a civil society grouping we could get >>>> behind? >>>> >>>> Interested to hear your thoughts. >>>> >>>> Best >>>> Sheetal. >>>> >>>> One of the main sessions at the 14th IGF will be focused on Digital >>>> Cooperation and Internet Governance (scheduled for 26 November, 10:00-13:00 >>>> CEST, Main Hall). In preparation for this session, the *Call for >>>> Feedback to the High-Level Panel on **‎**Digital Cooperation Report's >>>> Recommendation 5 and the IGF Plus Model is now open*. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Please review carefully the Report, especially the Recommendation 5 and >>>> the IGF Plus Model, and provide your written feedback by 30 September 2019 >>>> through the IGF website: https://www.intgovforum.org/ >>>> multilingual/content/report-of-the-un-secretary-general% >>>> E2%80%99s-%E2%80%8Ehigh-level-panel-on-digital-cooperation. 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Tamanikaiwaimaro" (via governance Mailing List) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2019 12:41:40 +0100 Subject: [governance] Nomination Imran Ahmed Shah In-Reply-To: <1032820704.3636000.1567847396742@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1032820704.3636000.1567847396742@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks Imran, yes there is a lot of work ahead of us. On Sat, 7 Sep 2019, 10:10 am Imran Ahmed Shah, wrote: > Dear Colleagues at IGCaucus, > > Knowing that IG Caucus CS was formed in the context of the WSIS to promote > global public interest objectives in Internet governance policy making, I > joined IGC in 2009, contributed actively in discussions and had been > contestant in 2011-13, 2012-14, 2014-16 coco elections. Most of the IGC > member knows that I had been member of BestBits Steering Committee > 2014-15 and 2017-18 and has been part of the closure team. > > Now, I understand that *IGC has to play its important role at 15+ Review > Process of WSIS & UN IGF Renewal *at the *“75th Anniversary of The United > Nations'" in 2020* having its agenda of Renewal and Innovation. *Are you > prepare for that...?* Let's reorganize the IGC to cope with the upcoming > challenges. With the same aim recently *played an active role to revive > IGC Website* (which had been compromised/ hijacked since last 18 months). > > I am thankful to IGC ex-coordinators, who nominated me, believing that IGC > needs some resource like me. I accepted nomination on 28-Aug and shared my > biodata (also attached herewith) with Scrutineers/ Returning Officers on > 03-Sep, however I was advised to share shorter form statement by 7-Sep. > > My 300 words statement for the election is as follows: > > = Statement Starts Here = > > My name is Imran Ahmed Shah, belong to Pakistan (AP Region), serving Civil > Society as Public-Policy advocate, Private-Sector as Technologist since > 1985. Participating, Representing National, Regional & Global platforms & > forums related to Public-Policy/IG/IP/Info-Sec matters. > > Established ‘Linguistic Internet Council’ and ‘Urdu Internet Society’ > platforms to unite ‘Linguistic User Communities’ to form ‘Internet Layers’ > with excellence. > > Established ‘Youth/IGF Pakistan’ following WSIS Tunis agenda. > > Remain involved with UN-GAID, UNESCO-Conference "Connecting the Dots” and > WSIS 10+ Review Process, supporting CS instance. > > Achievements including ‘Two-Letter limitation Removal for IDN-ccTLD’, > ‘100% waiver for developing countries in FastTrack’, ۔پاکستان dot Pakistan > IDN ccTLD Registry, gTLDs conflict-resolution at ICANN36 at Seoul, Securing > ISLA-Awards for InfoSec Professionals at SecureAsia at Jakarta/Tokyo/Philippine, > ISOCPakistan rejuvenation, workshops at APrIGF-2013 at Seoul/2014 at NewDelhi > /2015 at Macau on ‘Governance for the Internet of Kids/Teenagers/Youngsters’. > > Got Patent US9,779,066B2; PUNYCODE Conversion System for IDN-cc/gTLDs. > > = Motivation/ Reason = > > Ex-Coordinators strongly believe that: > > *The IGC needs some Technical Expertise, if it is to run smoothly. …. > Imran has stepped smoothly, and as generously, into Jeremy’s place, in > providing the technical backup to get the IGC up and running again. As well > as this he brings a perception of IG from the non-anglophone developing > world, which it is crucially important should be part of a Civil Society > “voice”. (Deirdre Williams)* > > *“.. it is critical that the nominees have been members for at least > several years ensuring they have IGC context. Being on the Technical Team > with Imran, his Leadership, Alacrity and Efficiency in execution-of-duties > not to mention his Collaborative-Nature has been nothing short of > impressive. Imran, has institutional memory, leadership skills and the > connections needed to take the IGC from the ashes to position it where it > needs to be, not just collaborating with //groups but making the IGC > visible in diverse-spaces and restoring its credibility”. (Salanieta T. > Tamanikaiwaimaro)* > > = Statement Ends Here = > > I will submit required information to the Returning Office with in given > time frame (and will also share with you). > > Once again thanking you for your trust. > > Best Regards > > Imran Ahmed Shah > > > > On Tuesday, 27 August 2019, 23:17:50 GMT+5, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < > governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: > > > I second this nomination and add that it is critical that the nominees > have been members for at least over several years to ensure that they have > context of the IGC. > > Being on the technical team with Imran, his leadership, alacrity and > efficiency in execution of duties not to mention his collaborative nature > has been nothing short of impressive. > > Sala > > On Tue, 27 Aug 2019, 7:12 pm Deirdre Williams, < > governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: > > Imran Ahmed Shah > > Country of residence: Pakistan > > > I nominate Imran Ahmed Shah to be one of two co-coordinators for the > Internet Governance Caucus (IGC). The IGC needs some technical expertise if > it is to run smoothly. Jeremy Malcolm has generously been providing that > for years – he needs a break. Imran has stepped smoothly, and as > generously, into Jeremy’s place, in providing the technical backup to get > the IGC up and running again. As well as this he brings a perception of > internet governance from the non-anglophone developing world, which it is > crucially important should be part of a civil society “voice”. > Deirdre Williams > -- > “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William > Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Mon Sep 2 11:34:00 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Lee W McKnight (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 15:34:00 +0000 Subject: [governance] AI Sustainable Development Summit 2019 in NYC, 9.28 Message-ID: <0bf5d54decd44fcf816b8095d6d9e844@syr.edu> Hi, As some of you may be aware, the AI Sustainable Development Summit 2019 will be held in New York City on September 28th during the UNGA week. For more information or to register see: http://www.aisdg.com/ I don't think they currently have plans for Livestreaming the event. Hmm, I wonder whom I might ping to check on their interest and availability to help out...oh hi Joly ; ). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Sat Sep 7 10:04:54 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Carlos Vera (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2019 09:04:54 -0500 Subject: [governance] Nomination Imran Ahmed Shah In-Reply-To: <1032820704.3636000.1567847396742@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1032820704.3636000.1567847396742@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Dear Imran. Such a great motivation is needed here and everywhere. Thank you for this Carlos Vera Ecuador El 7 sep. 2019, a la(s) 04:09, Imran Ahmed Shah (via governance Mailing List) escribió: > Dear Colleagues at IGCaucus, > > Knowing that IG Caucus CS was formed in the context of the WSIS to promote global public interest objectives in Internet governance policy making, I joined IGC in 2009, contributed actively in discussions and had been contestant in 2011-13, 2012-14, 2014-16 coco elections. Most of the IGC member knows that I had been member of BestBits Steering Committee 2014-15 and 2017-18 and has been part of the closure team. > > Now, I understand that IGC has to play its important role at 15+ Review Process of WSIS & UN IGF Renewal at the “75th Anniversary of The United Nations'" in 2020 having its agenda of Renewal and Innovation. Are you prepare for that...? Let's reorganize the IGC to cope with the upcoming challenges. With the same aim recently played an active role to revive IGC Website (which had been compromised/ hijacked since last 18 months). > > I am thankful to IGC ex-coordinators, who nominated me, believing that IGC needs some resource like me. I accepted nomination on 28-Aug and shared my biodata (also attached herewith) with Scrutineers/ Returning Officers on 03-Sep, however I was advised to share shorter form statement by 7-Sep. > > My 300 words statement for the election is as follows: > > = Statement Starts Here = > > My name is Imran Ahmed Shah, belong to Pakistan (AP Region), serving Civil Society as Public-Policy advocate, Private-Sector as Technologist since 1985. Participating, Representing National, Regional & Global platforms & forums related to Public-Policy/IG/IP/Info-Sec matters. > > Established ‘Linguistic Internet Council’ and ‘Urdu Internet Society’ platforms to unite ‘Linguistic User Communities’ to form ‘Internet Layers’ with excellence. > > Established ‘Youth/IGF Pakistan’ following WSIS Tunis agenda. > > Remain involved with UN-GAID, UNESCO-Conference "Connecting the Dots” and WSIS 10+ Review Process, supporting CS instance. > > Achievements including ‘Two-Letter limitation Removal for IDN-ccTLD’, ‘100% waiver for developing countries in FastTrack’, ۔پاکستان dot Pakistan IDN ccTLD Registry, gTLDs conflict-resolution at ICANN36 at Seoul, Securing ISLA-Awards for InfoSec Professionals at SecureAsia at Jakarta/Tokyo/Philippine, ISOCPakistan rejuvenation, workshops at APrIGF-2013 at Seoul/2014 at NewDelhi/2015 at Macau on ‘Governance for the Internet of Kids/Teenagers/Youngsters’. > > Got Patent US9,779,066B2; PUNYCODE Conversion System for IDN-cc/gTLDs. > > = Motivation/ Reason = > > Ex-Coordinators strongly believe that: > The IGC needs some Technical Expertise, if it is to run smoothly. …. Imran has stepped smoothly, and as generously, into Jeremy’s place, in providing the technical backup to get the IGC up and running again. As well as this he brings a perception of IG from the non-anglophone developing world, which it is crucially important should be part of a Civil Society “voice”. (Deirdre Williams) > > “.. it is critical that the nominees have been members for at least several years ensuring they have IGC context. Being on the Technical Team with Imran, his Leadership, Alacrity and Efficiency in execution-of-duties not to mention his Collaborative-Nature has been nothing short of impressive. Imran, has institutional memory, leadership skills and the connections needed to take the IGC from the ashes to position it where it needs to be, not just collaborating with //groups but making the IGC visible in diverse-spaces and restoring its credibility”. (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro) > > = Statement Ends Here = > > I will submit required information to the Returning Office with in given time frame (and will also share with you). > > Once again thanking you for your trust. > > Best Regards > > Imran Ahmed Shah > > > > On Tuesday, 27 August 2019, 23:17:50 GMT+5, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote: > > > I second this nomination and add that it is critical that the nominees have been members for at least over several years to ensure that they have context of the IGC. > > Being on the technical team with Imran, his leadership, alacrity and efficiency in execution of duties not to mention his collaborative nature has been nothing short of impressive. > > Sala > > On Tue, 27 Aug 2019, 7:12 pm Deirdre Williams, wrote: > Imran Ahmed Shah > > Country of residence: Pakistan > > > > I nominate Imran Ahmed Shah to be one of two co-coordinators for the Internet Governance Caucus (IGC). The IGC needs some technical expertise if it is to run smoothly. Jeremy Malcolm has generously been providing that for years – he needs a break. Imran has stepped smoothly, and as generously, into Jeremy’s place, in providing the technical backup to get the IGC up and running again. As well as this he brings a perception of internet governance from the non-anglophone developing world, which it is crucially important should be part of a civil society “voice”. > > Deirdre Williams > -- > “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From iza at anr.org Sat Sep 7 10:10:34 2019 From: iza at anr.org (Izumi AIZU) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2019 23:10:34 +0900 Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF In-Reply-To: References: <20190906095031.GB11102@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> Message-ID: Dear Michale and all, IGF was initiated under the UN framework, and cannot go beyond that. Under the UN framework, every member state agreed to follow One China policy, no exception. Yes, those who are living in Taiwan and who do not have other passports than Taiwanese, are not allowed to participate in IGF, or any other UN hosted meetings. I do not like this, for sure. BUT, I don't see any other possibility, given the power politics around the UN system. IF she is comfortable in having another passport in addition to Taiwanese one, I think she could physically participation in IGF which is different from remote participation. It's her choice. Unless the whole Civil society, Private sector, and Technical Community, the major components of the multistakeholder composition of the IGF, all take this issue seriously in unison and challenge the government stakeholders, I think we cannot change the status quo situation. BUT honestly, I don't see the possibility. Again, I don't like it, but it is another de fact thing. Well, how about the Hong Kong situation? izumi 2019年9月6日(金) 22:02 "Michael J. Oghia" : > > Hi everyone, > > Apologies in advance if I sound petulant. Hearing that she can't participate in person really made me angry and also feel helpless. I remember the words of Prof. Robin Kelley that he delivered at a guest lecture once, essentially that solidarity is standing up for injustice even if it doesn't impact you personally. Surely this is not the first time someone has been denied access to something solely because of the geographic lottery that is their birthplace. > > Anyways, thanks to everyone who chimed in about this. I already suggested remote participation to her. It seems that, as Nadira and others have suggested, that the case of the Vatican and especially Palestine are special. > > Also @Chantal – all IGF sessions are recorded (main sessions, DCs, BPFs, etc.), but many of the side meetings aren't – and honestly, those as with any conference, are often the most professionally meaningful. > > Have a good weekend all, > -Michael > > > On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 1:11 PM Nadira Alaraj wrote: >> >> Thanks to Michael for kicking of this discussion, and thanks to the insights of Ian and Tapani, >> >> In my case as Palestinian, I worked with the secretariat to add Palestine on the countries list because it was accepted as an observing country like the Vatican. If the Vatican is not listed then it seems no one followed on this issue. >> >> Earlier we used to apply as Jordanian because Palestinian in the West bank and Jerusalem are allowed to have a temporary Jordanian passport. Hence Ian's advise could work if the host country can issue this temporary passport, with limited timespan say one year. This is just an idea, >> >> Best wishes >> Nadira >> >> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019, 12:51 Tapani Tarvainen wrote: >>> >>> Just a minor point but Taiwan is not the only country that isn't a >>> member of the UN (others include Vatican, Palestine, Kosovo, Niue, >>> Cook Islands at least). If someone wants to push this it might be >>> better to frame it more generically rather being than just about >>> Taiwan. >>> >>> Tapani >>> >>> On Sep 06 08:44, ian.peter at ianpeter.com (ian.peter at ianpeter.com) wrote: >>> >>> > I wish there was an easy answer to this Michael. >>> > >>> > But as I understand it, we are dealing with a whole-of-UN problem, >>> > not just an IGF one. For whatever historic reasons, and they are to >>> > do with recognition of the Peoples Republic of China, Taiwan is not >>> > recognised by the UN as a nation state - although they would like to >>> > be and have a few allies pushing their cause. >>> > >>> > I believe it goes back to 1971. China's attitude has been "The >>> > United Nations is an international organization composed of >>> > sovereign states.Taiwan as a province of China is completely not >>> > qualified and has no right to participate in it. Due to the >>> > well-known reasons, the Taiwan authorities illegally usurped China's >>> > UN seat for as long as 22 years" >>> > (http://ae.china-embassy.org/eng/zt/twwt/t150866.htm) >>> > >>> > But having said that - others might be able to provide more >>> > background - since IGF is not a meeting of nation states, but also >>> > includes civil society and other stakeholders, one would think there >>> > might be a way around it. Yes, to register one needs a passport - >>> > maybe an ally of Taiwan would be prepared to issue passports or >>> > acceptab;e documents for Taiwanese citizens? >>> > >>> > I don't know how we could get around this, just brainstorming. In an >>> > ideal IGF, stateless people would have a voice and be able to >>> > attend, subject of course to standard security clearances. Maybe MAG >>> > could explore this? >>> > >>> > >>> > Ian Peter >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ------ Original Message ------ >>> > From: "Michael J. Oghia" >>> > To: "IGC" >>> > Sent: 6/09/2019 5:49:07 PM >>> > Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF >>> > >>> > >Hi everyone, >>> > > >>> > >I'd like to raise a serious concern I have regarding the IGF. A >>> > >contact of mine in Taiwan is having trouble registering for the >>> > >IGF. She solely has a Taiwanese passport, but the IGF, as a UN >>> > >event, can only register individuals who have a passport from a UN >>> > >member state (of which Taiwan is not a member). I checked with the >>> > >IGF Secretariat, and unfortunately, there's not much they can do >>> > >about it. >>> > > >>> > >I know that the politics surrounding China and Taiwan are >>> > >contentious, however, this essentially means that she (and anyone >>> > >else) from Taiwan – more than 23.5 million people – are >>> > >essentially barred from attending the IGF if they don't have >>> > >another passport. >>> > > >>> > >I find this deeply problematic and in violation of the fundamental >>> > >principles of the multi-stakeholder model, namely the fact that >>> > >it's meant to be inclusive and open to all. >>> > > >>> > >Has anyone encountered this problem in the past, either in the IG >>> > >sector or another development sector? Does anyone have ideas for >>> > >how it can be resolved? I'm well aware this is not the first >>> > >instance of a Taiwanese national being excluded from participation >>> > >in a global event, so perhaps this is a moot point and no one can >>> > >help. Still, it still strikes me as incredibly unjust and unfair >>> > >that regional politics would prevent individuals from attending >>> > >the IGF. >>> > > >>> > >Best, >>> > >-Michael >>> > >__________________ >>> > > >>> > >Michael J. Oghia | Advocacy & Engagement Manager >>> > >Global Forum for Media Development (GFMD ) >>> > >Belgrade, Serbia | Twitter | >>> > >LinkedIn >>> --- >>> To unsubscribe: >>> List help: > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: -- >> Izumi Aizu << Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita, Japan www.anr.org From governance at lists.riseup.net Sat Sep 7 14:02:19 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" (via governance Mailing List) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2019 19:02:19 +0100 Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The IGF in Geneva had an all Taiwanese panel but they were brought in under South American PRUNOG. The Chinese went ballistic of course and it was all over the media. Some of us who were in the room captured it on video on our phones but I have deleted my archives. Needless to say this was aired by Ji on the MAG so it should be on record somewhere. They can only register as Chinese Taipei but the person you should ask is Wu from the NRO who is from Taiwan. Will ask him. On Fri, 6 Sep 2019, 8:49 am "Michael J. Oghia", wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'd like to raise a serious concern I have regarding the IGF. A contact of > mine in Taiwan is having trouble registering for the IGF. She solely has a > Taiwanese passport, but the IGF, as a UN event, can only register > individuals who have a passport from a UN member state (of which Taiwan is > not a member). I checked with the IGF Secretariat, and unfortunately, > there's not much they can do about it. > > I know that the politics surrounding China and Taiwan are contentious, > however, this essentially means that she (and anyone else) from Taiwan – > more than 23.5 million people – are essentially barred from attending the > IGF if they don't have another passport. > > I find this *deeply problematic* and in violation of the fundamental > principles of the multi-stakeholder model, namely the fact that it's meant > to be inclusive and open to all. > > Has anyone encountered this problem in the past, either in the IG sector > or another development sector? Does anyone have ideas for how it can be > resolved? I'm well aware this is not the first instance of a Taiwanese > national being excluded from participation in a global event, so perhaps > this is a moot point and no one can help. Still, it still strikes me as > incredibly unjust and unfair that regional politics would prevent > individuals from attending the IGF. > > Best, > -Michael > __________________ > > Michael J. Oghia | Advocacy & Engagement Manager > Global Forum for Media Development (GFMD ) > Belgrade, Serbia | Twitter | LinkedIn > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From woody at pch.net Sat Sep 7 14:22:12 2019 From: woody at pch.net (Bill Woodcock) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2019 11:22:12 -0700 Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Estonian E-citizenships, perhaps? Doesn’t solve the problem, but it’s a work-around. -Bill > On Sep 6, 2019, at 01:52, Michael J. Oghia (via governance Mailing List) wrote: > > Hi Ian, > > Thanks so much for this thoughtful response, and indeed, I sent it in frustration. I realise, however, that this issue goes way beyond the IGF. Moreover, since a member of the Chinese government is a member of the MAG, I seriously doubt the MAG would even be open to discussing it. > > The point you raise about stateless individuals is an interesting one, though, as I don't know what the protocol is for that. Taiwan nationals clearly aren't stateless, though, so those are two separate points (regardless, I still recommend the IGF develop a procedure for including stateless individuals/groups). > > It seems this is an injustice that will have to pursue, and she can attend remotely if interested. > > Best, > -Michael > > >> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM ian.peter at ianpeter.com wrote: >> I wish there was an easy answer to this Michael. >> >> But as I understand it, we are dealing with a whole-of-UN problem, not just an IGF one. For whatever historic reasons, and they are to do with recognition of the Peoples Republic of China, Taiwan is not recognised by the UN as a nation state - although they would like to be and have a few allies pushing their cause. >> >> I believe it goes back to 1971. China's attitude has been "The United Nations is an international organization composed of sovereign states.Taiwan as a province of China is completely not qualified and has no right to participate in it. Due to the well-known reasons, the Taiwan authorities illegally usurped China's UN seat for as long as 22 years" (http://ae.china-embassy.org/eng/zt/twwt/t150866.htm) >> >> But having said that - others might be able to provide more background - since IGF is not a meeting of nation states, but also includes civil society and other stakeholders, one would think there might be a way around it. Yes, to register one needs a passport - maybe an ally of Taiwan would be prepared to issue passports or acceptab;e documents for Taiwanese citizens? >> >> I don't know how we could get around this, just brainstorming. In an ideal IGF, stateless people would have a voice and be able to attend, subject of course to standard security clearances. Maybe MAG could explore this? >> >> >> Ian Peter >> >> >> >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Michael J. Oghia" >> To: "IGC" >> Sent: 6/09/2019 5:49:07 PM >> Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> I'd like to raise a serious concern I have regarding the IGF. A contact of mine in Taiwan is having trouble registering for the IGF. She solely has a Taiwanese passport, but the IGF, as a UN event, can only register individuals who have a passport from a UN member state (of which Taiwan is not a member). I checked with the IGF Secretariat, and unfortunately, there's not much they can do about it. >>> >>> I know that the politics surrounding China and Taiwan are contentious, however, this essentially means that she (and anyone else) from Taiwan – more than 23.5 million people – are essentially barred from attending the IGF if they don't have another passport. >>> >>> I find this deeply problematic and in violation of the fundamental principles of the multi-stakeholder model, namely the fact that it's meant to be inclusive and open to all. >>> >>> Has anyone encountered this problem in the past, either in the IG sector or another development sector? Does anyone have ideas for how it can be resolved? I'm well aware this is not the first instance of a Taiwanese national being excluded from participation in a global event, so perhaps this is a moot point and no one can help. Still, it still strikes me as incredibly unjust and unfair that regional politics would prevent individuals from attending the IGF. >>> >>> Best, >>> -Michael >>> __________________ >>> >>> Michael J. Oghia | Advocacy & Engagement Manager >>> Global Forum for Media Development (GFMD) >>> Belgrade, Serbia | Twitter | LinkedIn > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Sat Sep 7 14:35:26 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (farzaneh badii (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2019 14:35:26 -0400 Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: E-citizenship doesnt give you a passport to travel. The only solution is to get rid of the concept of nation states and treat people as people and not clans. On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 2:23 PM Bill Woodcock wrote: > Estonian E-citizenships, perhaps? > > Doesn’t solve the problem, but it’s a work-around. > > > -Bill > > > On Sep 6, 2019, at 01:52, Michael J. Oghia (via governance Mailing List) < > governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: > > Hi Ian, > > Thanks so much for this thoughtful response, and indeed, I sent it in > frustration. I realise, however, that this issue goes way beyond the IGF. > Moreover, since a member of the Chinese government is a member of the MAG, > I seriously doubt the MAG would even be open to discussing it. > > The point you raise about stateless individuals is an interesting one, > though, as I don't know what the protocol is for that. Taiwan nationals > clearly aren't stateless, though, so those are two separate points > (regardless, I still recommend the IGF develop a procedure for including > stateless individuals/groups). > > It seems this is an injustice that will have to pursue, and she can attend > remotely if interested. > > Best, > -Michael > > > On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM ian.peter at ianpeter.com < > ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote: > >> I wish there was an easy answer to this Michael. >> >> But as I understand it, we are dealing with a whole-of-UN problem, not >> just an IGF one. For whatever historic reasons, and they are to do with >> recognition of the Peoples Republic of China, Taiwan is not recognised by >> the UN as a nation state - although they would like to be and have a few >> allies pushing their cause. >> >> I believe it goes back to 1971. China's attitude has been "The *United >> Nations* is an international organization composed of sovereign states. >> *Taiwan* as a province of China is completely *not* qualified and *has >> no* right to participate in it. Due to the well-known reasons, the >> *Taiwan* authorities illegally usurped China's *UN* seat for as long as >> 22 years" (http://ae.china-embassy.org/eng/zt/twwt/t150866.htm) >> >> But having said that - others might be able to provide more background - >> since IGF is not a meeting of nation states, but also includes civil >> society and other stakeholders, one would think there might be a way >> around it. Yes, to register one needs a passport - maybe an ally of Taiwan >> would be prepared to issue passports or acceptab;e documents for Taiwanese >> citizens? >> >> I don't know how we could get around this, just brainstorming. In an >> ideal IGF, stateless people would have a voice and be able to attend, >> subject of course to standard security clearances. Maybe MAG could explore >> this? >> >> >> Ian Peter >> >> >> >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Michael J. Oghia" >> To: "IGC" >> Sent: 6/09/2019 5:49:07 PM >> Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> I'd like to raise a serious concern I have regarding the IGF. A contact >> of mine in Taiwan is having trouble registering for the IGF. She solely has >> a Taiwanese passport, but the IGF, as a UN event, can only register >> individuals who have a passport from a UN member state (of which Taiwan is >> not a member). I checked with the IGF Secretariat, and unfortunately, >> there's not much they can do about it. >> >> I know that the politics surrounding China and Taiwan are contentious, >> however, this essentially means that she (and anyone else) from Taiwan – >> more than 23.5 million people – are essentially barred from attending the >> IGF if they don't have another passport. >> >> I find this *deeply problematic* and in violation of the fundamental >> principles of the multi-stakeholder model, namely the fact that it's meant >> to be inclusive and open to all. >> >> Has anyone encountered this problem in the past, either in the IG sector >> or another development sector? Does anyone have ideas for how it can be >> resolved? I'm well aware this is not the first instance of a Taiwanese >> national being excluded from participation in a global event, so perhaps >> this is a moot point and no one can help. Still, it still strikes me as >> incredibly unjust and unfair that regional politics would prevent >> individuals from attending the IGF. >> >> Best, >> -Michael >> __________________ >> >> Michael J. Oghia | Advocacy & Engagement Manager >> Global Forum for Media Development (GFMD ) >> Belgrade, Serbia | Twitter | LinkedIn >> >> >> --- > To unsubscribe: > > List help: > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -- Farzaneh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julf at julf.com Sun Sep 8 10:32:42 2019 From: julf at julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2019 16:32:42 +0200 Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7ff06d11-7903-f41e-4cc7-60980e74771a@julf.com> On 07-09-19 20:35, farzaneh badii (via governance Mailing List) wrote: > E-citizenship doesnt give you a passport to travel. The only solution is > to get rid of the concept of nation states and treat people as people > and not clans. Hear hear! This is also just one more example of the problems with the UN model (basically assuming we are all "subjects" of nation states, and adequately represented by our (elected or not) noble rulers. Julf From governance at lists.riseup.net Mon Sep 9 00:06:05 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Bruna Martins dos Santos (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 01:06:05 -0300 Subject: [governance] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear all, Once again I would like to thank Michael for the nomination. My candidate statement follows below: I am Bruna Santos, and am currently based in Brasilia, Brazil. I have been working with Internet Governance related discussions since 2009 when I started my engagement with IGC while a student and intern at the Brazilian Ministry of Foreign affairs. Nowadays I hold the position of Policy and Advocacy Analyst at Coding Rights, a brazilian NGO working in the intersection of Internet and Human Rights. Since joining Coding Rights I have been responsible for where I am responsible for our engagement with other stakeholders and participation in policy making processes, including our participation on the elaboration of the Brazilian Data Protection Law and the Brazilian DPA. Most of my professional experience - whether at the brazilian government or currently within Coding Rights - entailed activities that fostered the importance of Stakeholder coordination and learning to value different perspectives. Apart from Coding Rights, I am also the current elected chair of the Non-Commercial Users Constituency at ICANN, a very relevant space por civil society interaction with the policy making processes regarding generic domain names. Important to mention that my term as one of the IGC co-coordinators has just ended and I would love if Im given the chance of another term to continue actively supporting the efforts regarding taking IGC back to its relevant place of a real caucus that enables civil society interaction and coordination to the most diverse subjects regarding the internet. I have also been involved in the discussions regarding the closure of Best Bits and IGC revival from the very beginning and I believe my advocacy experience in the field of Internet Policy would be relevant for our Caucus next steps. Best, Bruna Le jeu. 5 sept. 2019 à 17:02, Bruna Martins dos Santos < bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> a écrit : > Dear Michael, > > First of all I would like to thank you for the nomination! Its been a > pleasure to know and work with you for these past years. > > Secondly, I would like to accept the nomination to run for one of the > Co-coordinators. I am very fond of the work we've been doing in order to > revive IGC and I would like to continue contributing to that. In that sense > I will submit my statement to the list soon. > > Best Regards, > bruna > > Le mer. 28 août 2019 à 09:56, "Michael J. Oghia" < > governance at lists.riseup.net> a écrit : > >> Thank you for this Ian, I look forward to hearing from Bruna, as well as >> the other nominees to see if they accept. >> >> Best, >> -Michael >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 10:36 AM ian.peter at ianpeter.com < >> ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Michael, >>> >>> Bruna as the standing co ordinator announced the election and call for >>> nominations. That is normal practice. It is perfecly proper for her to >>> serve a second term if she accepts your nomination, and if that is the >>> will of the voters. >>> >>> From this point on the conduct of the election and resulting >>> announcement is in the hands of the two returning officers, Tapani >>> Tarvainen and myself, so there is no conflict of interest. >>> >>> Just making sure that is clear. >>> >>> >>> Ian Peter >>> >>> ------ Original Message ------ >>> From: "Michael J. Oghia" >>> To: "CWCS" >>> Sent: 28/08/2019 6:25:39 PM >>> Subject: Re: [governance] Nomination >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> It was brought to my attention that Bruna is currently overseeing the >>> election, so I'm not sure if her nomination can stand without a proper >>> election committee or some kind of policy. >>> >>> I guess the first and simplest thing to ask is: Bruna, are you >>> interested in accepting the nomination? If so, we can discuss further. If >>> not, it's a moot point. >>> >>> Best, >>> -Michael >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 6:50 AM Michael J. Oghia >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Bruna Santos >>>> >>>> Country of residence: Brazil >>>> >>>> Country of origin: Brazil >>>> >>>> I'd like to I nominate Bruna Santos to be one of two co-coordinators >>>> for the Internet Governance Caucus (IGC). Ever since I met Bruna at ICANN >>>> 58 in Copenhagen, I've witnessed her dedication to and engagement in civil >>>> society coordination throughout the IG space. From her leadership within >>>> the NCUC, to helping to co-organise various civil society meetings (such as >>>> at IGF 2018) and assisting with getting the IGC/Best Bits merger through, I >>>> am confident that Bruna will do well in the post if elected. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> -Michael Oghia >>>> >>>> --- >> To unsubscribe: >> List help: >> > > > -- > *Bruna Martins dos Santos * > > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos > @boomartins > -- *Bruna Martins dos Santos * Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos @boomartins -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Mon Sep 9 05:34:06 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" (via governance Mailing List) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 10:34:06 +0100 Subject: [governance] 42nd Session of the UN Human Rights Council is in session Message-ID: Egypt is currently speaking. 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If you have more than one email address on the IGC list, you will probably receive multiple messages: so if you know that is the case, you might like to advise us now as to which email address you would prefer. When you do receive the email, it will include a link specific to your email address inviting you to vote. Voting is for people who identify as civil society and meet the basic conditions to be an IGC member. So before you get to vote, you will be asked some basic questions about your status. If you know you are not a civil society member, or if you have received another email asking you to vote, you can just ignore the email if you like. Or you can proceed to the questions which will verify your entitlement to vote. If you are entitled to vote, we strongly encourage you to do so, as it is only by voting that you can be a member of the IGC. When you have answered the qualifying questions, you will be taken to a page which lists the three candidates, and also the additional option “none of the above”. You can vote validly by selecting one candidate, two candidates, or “none of the above”. (The “none of the above” option exists so that, if you have no preference among the candidates, you can still register a valid vote this way and thereby be registered as a member of IGC). When you have done this, you will be asked to confirm your choice – and that's it! Shortly after that you will receive a letter confirming that you have voted: and if for any reason you made a mistake, that letter contains a link where you can go back on line and change your choices (only the last vote you do will count). HOW VOTING WORKS After voting has closed, the Returning Officers will verify the votes received and announce the results. Please note that if you vote for two candidates, this records a vote of equal value for each candidate selected: this is not a preferential voting system. When you receive your voting email, we think you will find the process very straight forward and easy to follow (thanks in no small part to the small group of list members who assisted us with testing and refining the software!) But if there are any problems – you can always start again, and additionally we are here to help if you have any problems. That's the basics of the process – we will let you know again when we have sent the voting emails so you can check and make sure yours has arrived. We look forward to your participation in this important election for IGC. Ian Peter and Tapani Tarvainen Returning Officers. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you do not >receive the message, you may want to check your junk email or spam >filters in case your software has filtered the message from this mass >mailing. Also – if you have been on the mailing list for less than 2 >months, you may not receive the email. > >If you have more than one email address on the IGC list, you will >probably receive multiple messages: so if you know that is the case, >you might like to advise us now as to which email address you would >prefer. > >When you do receive the email, it will include a link specific to your >email address inviting you to vote. > >Voting is for people who identify as civil society and meet the basic >conditions to be an IGC member. So before you get to vote, you will be >asked some basic questions about your status. If you know you are not a >civil society member, or if you have received another email asking you >to vote, you can just ignore the email if you like. Or you can proceed >to the questions which will verify your entitlement to vote. > >If you are entitled to vote, we strongly encourage you to do so, as it >is only by voting that you can be a member of the IGC. > >When you have answered the qualifying questions, you will be taken to a >page which lists the three candidates, and also the additional option >“none of the above”. You can vote validly by selecting one candidate, >two candidates, or “none of the above”. (The “none of the above” option >exists so that, if you have no preference among the candidates, you can >still register a valid vote this way and thereby be registered as a >member of IGC). > >When you have done this, you will be asked to confirm your choice – and >that's it! Shortly after that you will receive a letter confirming that >you have voted: and if for any reason you made a mistake, that letter >contains a link where you can go back on line and change your choices >(only the last vote you do will count). > >HOW VOTING WORKS > >After voting has closed, the Returning Officers will verify the votes >received and announce the results. Please note that if you vote for two >candidates, this records a vote of equal value for each candidate >selected: this is not a preferential voting system. > >When you receive your voting email, we think you will find the process >very straight forward and easy to follow (thanks in no small part to >the small group of list members who assisted us with testing and >refining the software!) But if there are any problems – you can always >start again, and additionally we are here to help if you have any >problems. > >That's the basics of the process – we will let you know again when we >have sent the voting emails so you can check and make sure yours has >arrived. > >We look forward to your participation in this important election for >IGC. > > > > > >Ian Peter and Tapani Tarvainen > >Returning Officers. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ian.peter at ianpeter.com Mon Sep 2 18:21:04 2019 From: ian.peter at ianpeter.com (ian.peter at ianpeter.com) Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2019 22:21:04 +0000 Subject: [governance] REMINDER - [Call for candidates] IGC Co-Coordinators election Message-ID: Just a reminder that nominations for co-coordinators of IGC close in a few days, at 1200UTC on September 5. Details are below, and self nominations are fine. It is good for IGC members to know that there are people willing to put in the effort to help IGC, and in that respect, the more nominations the better! Shortly after nominations close we will publish a list of those nominated. Candidates will be asked to confirm their availability if they have not already done so, and will have the opportunity to provide an updated 300 word statement to inform voters. Please give this some thought over the next day or so, your efforts might make a major difference in helping IGC to be more effective. Ian Peter ANNOUNCEMENT MESSAGE Dear IGC, Following up on our elections discussions, I would like to kickstart this process by announcing thatnominations are now open until September 5 for the two vacancies for IGC Co coordinators. Self nominations, and nomination of others who you feel would be suitable, are equally encouraged. We advise you to check if a person is willing to stand before nominating them: however in any case confirmation by candidates will be necessary by the close of nominations to confirm their willingness to stand to the mailing list. Nominations are made by a posting to the IGC Mailing List. Please make the subject of your posting: NOMINATION - (name of candidate). And should be accompanied by a 300 word statement which should include full name, country of residence and origin, work/involvement with IGF/IGC/civil society activities, and reasons why the person nominated would be a good Co-ordinator for IGC. If this information is not supplied at the time of nomination, a short period of time will be made available at the end of the nomination period to supply this information before voting commences. The voting process is planned to begin on September 10th, after nominations have been made and all statements are available. More information about this process will be made available on list before that date. Two candidates will be elected – one for a two year term, and one for a one year term. The Scrutineers and Returning Officers for the election are Ian Peter and Tapani Tarvainen. They will be pleased to answer queries on list as the process develops. The following information has been shared on this very mailing list before, but for any further reference, this is our elections timeline: Nominations - August 22nd until September 5th Candidates acceptance and Statement submission - September 9th Voting period - from 10th to September 23rd Election results announcement - September 29th Please nominate now, and before September 5. A strong leadership team is vital to the success of IGC, and your involvement in this process will be greatly appreciated. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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As for the bigger question about how to handle such issues in the future, I'm open to ideas though as it is a UN event, I'm not sure we have many options. Best, -Michael On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 4:33 PM Johan Helsingius wrote: > On 07-09-19 20:35, farzaneh badii (via governance Mailing List) wrote: > > E-citizenship doesnt give you a passport to travel. The only solution is > > to get rid of the concept of nation states and treat people as people > > and not clans. > > Hear hear! This is also just one more example of the problems with > the UN model (basically assuming we are all "subjects" of nation > states, and adequately represented by our (elected or not) noble > rulers. > > Julf > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tapani.tarvainen at effi.org Mon Sep 9 07:57:36 2019 From: tapani.tarvainen at effi.org (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 14:57:36 +0300 Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20190909115736.GB12163@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> I don't think the issue here is travel: Taiwanese passport is good enough to travel almost everywhere, it's just not accepted for IGF registration. Actually I find it curious that a passport is required at all for IGF. After all quite a few people could travel to Berlin without one: not only all Germans but everybody in the Schengen zone as well. Although the guidelines only talk about "picture ID", even if the account creation form wants passport... has anybody tried to use another type of ID? (Yeah, getting rid of nation states would solve this problem. I fear we won't get it done in time for this year's IGF though.) Tapani On Sep 07 14:35, farzaneh badii (governance at lists.riseup.net) wrote: > E-citizenship doesnt give you a passport to travel. The only solution is to > get rid of the concept of nation states and treat people as people and not > clans. > > On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 2:23 PM Bill Woodcock wrote: > > > Estonian E-citizenships, perhaps? > > > > Doesn’t solve the problem, but it’s a work-around. > > > > > > -Bill > > > > > > On Sep 6, 2019, at 01:52, Michael J. Oghia (via governance Mailing List) < > > governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: > > > > Hi Ian, > > > > Thanks so much for this thoughtful response, and indeed, I sent it in > > frustration. I realise, however, that this issue goes way beyond the IGF. > > Moreover, since a member of the Chinese government is a member of the MAG, > > I seriously doubt the MAG would even be open to discussing it. > > > > The point you raise about stateless individuals is an interesting one, > > though, as I don't know what the protocol is for that. Taiwan nationals > > clearly aren't stateless, though, so those are two separate points > > (regardless, I still recommend the IGF develop a procedure for including > > stateless individuals/groups). > > > > It seems this is an injustice that will have to pursue, and she can attend > > remotely if interested. > > > > Best, > > -Michael > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM ian.peter at ianpeter.com < > > ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote: > > > >> I wish there was an easy answer to this Michael. > >> > >> But as I understand it, we are dealing with a whole-of-UN problem, not > >> just an IGF one. For whatever historic reasons, and they are to do with > >> recognition of the Peoples Republic of China, Taiwan is not recognised by > >> the UN as a nation state - although they would like to be and have a few > >> allies pushing their cause. > >> > >> I believe it goes back to 1971. China's attitude has been "The *United > >> Nations* is an international organization composed of sovereign states. > >> *Taiwan* as a province of China is completely *not* qualified and *has > >> no* right to participate in it. Due to the well-known reasons, the > >> *Taiwan* authorities illegally usurped China's *UN* seat for as long as > >> 22 years" (http://ae.china-embassy.org/eng/zt/twwt/t150866.htm) > >> > >> But having said that - others might be able to provide more background - > >> since IGF is not a meeting of nation states, but also includes civil > >> society and other stakeholders, one would think there might be a way > >> around it. Yes, to register one needs a passport - maybe an ally of Taiwan > >> would be prepared to issue passports or acceptab;e documents for Taiwanese > >> citizens? > >> > >> I don't know how we could get around this, just brainstorming. In an > >> ideal IGF, stateless people would have a voice and be able to attend, > >> subject of course to standard security clearances. Maybe MAG could explore > >> this? > >> > >> > >> Ian Peter > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------ Original Message ------ > >> From: "Michael J. Oghia" > >> To: "IGC" > >> Sent: 6/09/2019 5:49:07 PM > >> Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF > >> > >> Hi everyone, > >> > >> I'd like to raise a serious concern I have regarding the IGF. A contact > >> of mine in Taiwan is having trouble registering for the IGF. She solely has > >> a Taiwanese passport, but the IGF, as a UN event, can only register > >> individuals who have a passport from a UN member state (of which Taiwan is > >> not a member). I checked with the IGF Secretariat, and unfortunately, > >> there's not much they can do about it. > >> > >> I know that the politics surrounding China and Taiwan are contentious, > >> however, this essentially means that she (and anyone else) from Taiwan – > >> more than 23.5 million people – are essentially barred from attending the > >> IGF if they don't have another passport. > >> > >> I find this *deeply problematic* and in violation of the fundamental > >> principles of the multi-stakeholder model, namely the fact that it's meant > >> to be inclusive and open to all. > >> > >> Has anyone encountered this problem in the past, either in the IG sector > >> or another development sector? Does anyone have ideas for how it can be > >> resolved? I'm well aware this is not the first instance of a Taiwanese > >> national being excluded from participation in a global event, so perhaps > >> this is a moot point and no one can help. Still, it still strikes me as > >> incredibly unjust and unfair that regional politics would prevent > >> individuals from attending the IGF. > >> > >> Best, > >> -Michael > >> __________________ > >> > >> Michael J. Oghia | Advocacy & Engagement Manager > >> Global Forum for Media Development (GFMD ) > >> Belgrade, Serbia | Twitter | LinkedIn > >> > >> > >> --- > > To unsubscribe: > > > > List help: > > > > --- > > To unsubscribe: > > List help: > > > -- > Farzaneh From governance at lists.riseup.net Mon Sep 9 08:11:11 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (farzaneh badii (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 08:11:11 -0400 Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF In-Reply-To: <20190909115736.GB12163@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> References: <20190909115736.GB12163@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> Message-ID: You have to identify your nationality on the form to register. Last time I checked Taiwan wasn't listed. Also not all passports arecprvileged enough to just pop into another country with without a visa. So I wonder if they'd even get a visa letter.. Maybe if they are physically in the host city ... But if not ... On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 7:58 AM Tapani Tarvainen wrote: > I don't think the issue here is travel: Taiwanese passport is good > enough to travel almost everywhere, it's just not accepted for IGF > registration. > > Actually I find it curious that a passport is required at all for IGF. > After all quite a few people could travel to Berlin without one: not > only all Germans but everybody in the Schengen zone as well. > > Although the guidelines only talk about "picture ID", even if the > account creation form wants passport... has anybody tried to use > another type of ID? > > (Yeah, getting rid of nation states would solve this problem. I fear > we won't get it done in time for this year's IGF though.) > > Tapani > > On Sep 07 14:35, farzaneh badii (governance at lists.riseup.net) wrote: > > > E-citizenship doesnt give you a passport to travel. The only solution is > to > > get rid of the concept of nation states and treat people as people and > not > > clans. > > > > On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 2:23 PM Bill Woodcock wrote: > > > > > Estonian E-citizenships, perhaps? > > > > > > Doesn’t solve the problem, but it’s a work-around. > > > > > > > > > -Bill > > > > > > > > > On Sep 6, 2019, at 01:52, Michael J. Oghia (via governance Mailing > List) < > > > governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Ian, > > > > > > Thanks so much for this thoughtful response, and indeed, I sent it in > > > frustration. I realise, however, that this issue goes way beyond the > IGF. > > > Moreover, since a member of the Chinese government is a member of the > MAG, > > > I seriously doubt the MAG would even be open to discussing it. > > > > > > The point you raise about stateless individuals is an interesting one, > > > though, as I don't know what the protocol is for that. Taiwan nationals > > > clearly aren't stateless, though, so those are two separate points > > > (regardless, I still recommend the IGF develop a procedure for > including > > > stateless individuals/groups). > > > > > > It seems this is an injustice that will have to pursue, and she can > attend > > > remotely if interested. > > > > > > Best, > > > -Michael > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM ian.peter at ianpeter.com < > > > ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote: > > > > > >> I wish there was an easy answer to this Michael. > > >> > > >> But as I understand it, we are dealing with a whole-of-UN problem, not > > >> just an IGF one. For whatever historic reasons, and they are to do > with > > >> recognition of the Peoples Republic of China, Taiwan is not > recognised by > > >> the UN as a nation state - although they would like to be and have a > few > > >> allies pushing their cause. > > >> > > >> I believe it goes back to 1971. China's attitude has been "The *United > > >> Nations* is an international organization composed of sovereign > states. > > >> *Taiwan* as a province of China is completely *not* qualified and *has > > >> no* right to participate in it. Due to the well-known reasons, the > > >> *Taiwan* authorities illegally usurped China's *UN* seat for as long > as > > >> 22 years" (http://ae.china-embassy.org/eng/zt/twwt/t150866.htm) > > >> > > >> But having said that - others might be able to provide more > background - > > >> since IGF is not a meeting of nation states, but also includes civil > > >> society and other stakeholders, one would think there might be a way > > >> around it. Yes, to register one needs a passport - maybe an ally of > Taiwan > > >> would be prepared to issue passports or acceptab;e documents for > Taiwanese > > >> citizens? > > >> > > >> I don't know how we could get around this, just brainstorming. In an > > >> ideal IGF, stateless people would have a voice and be able to attend, > > >> subject of course to standard security clearances. Maybe MAG could > explore > > >> this? > > >> > > >> > > >> Ian Peter > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ------ Original Message ------ > > >> From: "Michael J. Oghia" > > >> To: "IGC" > > >> Sent: 6/09/2019 5:49:07 PM > > >> Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF > > >> > > >> Hi everyone, > > >> > > >> I'd like to raise a serious concern I have regarding the IGF. A > contact > > >> of mine in Taiwan is having trouble registering for the IGF. She > solely has > > >> a Taiwanese passport, but the IGF, as a UN event, can only register > > >> individuals who have a passport from a UN member state (of which > Taiwan is > > >> not a member). I checked with the IGF Secretariat, and unfortunately, > > >> there's not much they can do about it. > > >> > > >> I know that the politics surrounding China and Taiwan are contentious, > > >> however, this essentially means that she (and anyone else) from > Taiwan – > > >> more than 23.5 million people – are essentially barred from attending > the > > >> IGF if they don't have another passport. > > >> > > >> I find this *deeply problematic* and in violation of the fundamental > > >> principles of the multi-stakeholder model, namely the fact that it's > meant > > >> to be inclusive and open to all. > > >> > > >> Has anyone encountered this problem in the past, either in the IG > sector > > >> or another development sector? Does anyone have ideas for how it can > be > > >> resolved? I'm well aware this is not the first instance of a Taiwanese > > >> national being excluded from participation in a global event, so > perhaps > > >> this is a moot point and no one can help. Still, it still strikes me > as > > >> incredibly unjust and unfair that regional politics would prevent > > >> individuals from attending the IGF. > > >> > > >> Best, > > >> -Michael > > >> __________________ > > >> > > >> Michael J. Oghia | Advocacy & Engagement Manager > > >> Global Forum for Media Development (GFMD ) > > >> Belgrade, Serbia | Twitter | > LinkedIn > > >> > > >> > > >> --- > > > To unsubscribe: > > > > > > List help: > > > > > > --- > > > To unsubscribe: > > > List help: > > > > > -- > > Farzaneh > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -- Farzaneh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tapani.tarvainen at effi.org Mon Sep 9 08:13:45 2019 From: tapani.tarvainen at effi.org (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 15:13:45 +0300 Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF In-Reply-To: References: <7ff06d11-7903-f41e-4cc7-60980e74771a@julf.com> Message-ID: <20190909121345.GC12163@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> On Sep 09 13:41, "Michael J. Oghia" (governance at lists.riseup.net) wrote: > I passed on all the updates to my friend, and I think she will participate > remotely. As for the bigger question about how to handle such issues in the > future, I'm open to ideas though as it is a UN event, I'm not sure we have > many options. Given the guidelines say "a picture ID issued by a national authority of a state recognised by the United Nations" and it does not need to be a valid travel document, all we need is to get some UN-recognised state to issue IDs to people from non-UN member countries. For example the host country could issue custom ID cards just for the purpose. Or any other country willing to annoy China. Some 20 or so UN members do have diplomatic relations with Taiwan. Perhaps one of those would be willing to help (they just might if Taiwanese government hinted there'd be more foreign aid in the way). It would be really interesting to have IGF in one of those... -- Tapani Tarvainen From governance at lists.riseup.net Mon Sep 9 08:22:01 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Nadira Alaraj (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 15:22:01 +0300 Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF In-Reply-To: References: <20190909115736.GB12163@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> Message-ID: A very sad case, "As of January 11, 2011, *Taiwan*-passport holders *do* not *need a visa* to enter the countries of the Schengen Agreement as a tourist or for business purposes, provided that no employment is taken. *Germany* is part of the Schengen-area. ... Nationals from other countries residing in *Taiwan* might *require a visa* to enter *Germany*.Jan 18, 2018" So assuming Taiwanese are in Berlin, they're not allowed to the IGF meeting because they can't register themselves. Must move forward with Farzi's suggestion to get rid of nation states. On Mon, Sep 9, 2019, 15:11 farzaneh badii wrote: > You have to identify your nationality on the form to register. Last time I > checked Taiwan wasn't listed. Also not all passports arecprvileged enough > to just pop into another country with without a visa. So I wonder if they'd > even get a visa letter.. Maybe if they are physically in the host city ... > But if not ... > > On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 7:58 AM Tapani Tarvainen > wrote: > >> I don't think the issue here is travel: Taiwanese passport is good >> enough to travel almost everywhere, it's just not accepted for IGF >> registration. >> >> Actually I find it curious that a passport is required at all for IGF. >> After all quite a few people could travel to Berlin without one: not >> only all Germans but everybody in the Schengen zone as well. >> >> Although the guidelines only talk about "picture ID", even if the >> account creation form wants passport... has anybody tried to use >> another type of ID? >> >> (Yeah, getting rid of nation states would solve this problem. I fear >> we won't get it done in time for this year's IGF though.) >> >> Tapani >> >> On Sep 07 14:35, farzaneh badii (governance at lists.riseup.net) wrote: >> >> > E-citizenship doesnt give you a passport to travel. The only solution >> is to >> > get rid of the concept of nation states and treat people as people and >> not >> > clans. >> > >> > On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 2:23 PM Bill Woodcock wrote: >> > >> > > Estonian E-citizenships, perhaps? >> > > >> > > Doesn’t solve the problem, but it’s a work-around. >> > > >> > > >> > > -Bill >> > > >> > > >> > > On Sep 6, 2019, at 01:52, Michael J. Oghia (via governance Mailing >> List) < >> > > governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: >> > > >> > > Hi Ian, >> > > >> > > Thanks so much for this thoughtful response, and indeed, I sent it in >> > > frustration. I realise, however, that this issue goes way beyond the >> IGF. >> > > Moreover, since a member of the Chinese government is a member of the >> MAG, >> > > I seriously doubt the MAG would even be open to discussing it. >> > > >> > > The point you raise about stateless individuals is an interesting one, >> > > though, as I don't know what the protocol is for that. Taiwan >> nationals >> > > clearly aren't stateless, though, so those are two separate points >> > > (regardless, I still recommend the IGF develop a procedure for >> including >> > > stateless individuals/groups). >> > > >> > > It seems this is an injustice that will have to pursue, and she can >> attend >> > > remotely if interested. >> > > >> > > Best, >> > > -Michael >> > > >> > > >> > > On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM ian.peter at ianpeter.com < >> > > ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote: >> > > >> > >> I wish there was an easy answer to this Michael. >> > >> >> > >> But as I understand it, we are dealing with a whole-of-UN problem, >> not >> > >> just an IGF one. For whatever historic reasons, and they are to do >> with >> > >> recognition of the Peoples Republic of China, Taiwan is not >> recognised by >> > >> the UN as a nation state - although they would like to be and have a >> few >> > >> allies pushing their cause. >> > >> >> > >> I believe it goes back to 1971. China's attitude has been "The >> *United >> > >> Nations* is an international organization composed of sovereign >> states. >> > >> *Taiwan* as a province of China is completely *not* qualified and >> *has >> > >> no* right to participate in it. Due to the well-known reasons, the >> > >> *Taiwan* authorities illegally usurped China's *UN* seat for as long >> as >> > >> 22 years" (http://ae.china-embassy.org/eng/zt/twwt/t150866.htm) >> > >> >> > >> But having said that - others might be able to provide more >> background - >> > >> since IGF is not a meeting of nation states, but also includes civil >> > >> society and other stakeholders, one would think there might be a way >> > >> around it. Yes, to register one needs a passport - maybe an ally of >> Taiwan >> > >> would be prepared to issue passports or acceptab;e documents for >> Taiwanese >> > >> citizens? >> > >> >> > >> I don't know how we could get around this, just brainstorming. In an >> > >> ideal IGF, stateless people would have a voice and be able to attend, >> > >> subject of course to standard security clearances. Maybe MAG could >> explore >> > >> this? >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Ian Peter >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> ------ Original Message ------ >> > >> From: "Michael J. Oghia" >> > >> To: "IGC" >> > >> Sent: 6/09/2019 5:49:07 PM >> > >> Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF >> > >> >> > >> Hi everyone, >> > >> >> > >> I'd like to raise a serious concern I have regarding the IGF. A >> contact >> > >> of mine in Taiwan is having trouble registering for the IGF. She >> solely has >> > >> a Taiwanese passport, but the IGF, as a UN event, can only register >> > >> individuals who have a passport from a UN member state (of which >> Taiwan is >> > >> not a member). I checked with the IGF Secretariat, and unfortunately, >> > >> there's not much they can do about it. >> > >> >> > >> I know that the politics surrounding China and Taiwan are >> contentious, >> > >> however, this essentially means that she (and anyone else) from >> Taiwan – >> > >> more than 23.5 million people – are essentially barred from >> attending the >> > >> IGF if they don't have another passport. >> > >> >> > >> I find this *deeply problematic* and in violation of the fundamental >> > >> principles of the multi-stakeholder model, namely the fact that it's >> meant >> > >> to be inclusive and open to all. >> > >> >> > >> Has anyone encountered this problem in the past, either in the IG >> sector >> > >> or another development sector? Does anyone have ideas for how it can >> be >> > >> resolved? I'm well aware this is not the first instance of a >> Taiwanese >> > >> national being excluded from participation in a global event, so >> perhaps >> > >> this is a moot point and no one can help. Still, it still strikes me >> as >> > >> incredibly unjust and unfair that regional politics would prevent >> > >> individuals from attending the IGF. >> > >> >> > >> Best, >> > >> -Michael >> > >> __________________ >> > >> >> > >> Michael J. Oghia | Advocacy & Engagement Manager >> > >> Global Forum for Media Development (GFMD ) >> > >> Belgrade, Serbia | Twitter | >> LinkedIn >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> --- >> > > To unsubscribe: > > > > >> > > List help: >> > > >> > > --- >> > > To unsubscribe: >> > > List help: >> > > >> > -- >> > Farzaneh >> --- >> To unsubscribe: >> List help: >> > -- > Farzaneh > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tapani.tarvainen at effi.org Mon Sep 9 08:48:27 2019 From: tapani.tarvainen at effi.org (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 15:48:27 +0300 Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF In-Reply-To: References: <20190909115736.GB12163@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> Message-ID: <20190909124826.GD12163@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> Actually you do not need to identify your nationality, you only need to specify the origin of your passport. And that could be challenged on the grounds that guidelines do not insist on people having a passport. After all technical limitations on the website can't override actual policy. I think they just might give in on that if someone wanted to attend with a credible reason for not having a passport but had another type of picture ID. They guidelines also state that the IGF welcomes "the participation of all stakeholders..." and "participant status shall be provided to any individual who fulfills the requirements" without any qualification as to nationality that I can see. And Taiwanese can enter Germany with their own passport, without even needing a visa. So if a Taiwanese had a picture ID issued by a state recognised by UN they should be able to attend. I presume "recognized" there includes observer countries like Palestine and Vatican (which, incidentally, maintains diplomatic relations with Taiwan). Hmm. Tapani On Sep 09 08:11, farzaneh badii (farzaneh.badii at gmail.com) wrote: > You have to identify your nationality on the form to register. Last time I > checked Taiwan wasn't listed. Also not all passports arecprvileged enough > to just pop into another country with without a visa. So I wonder if they'd > even get a visa letter.. Maybe if they are physically in the host city ... > But if not ... > > On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 7:58 AM Tapani Tarvainen > wrote: > > > I don't think the issue here is travel: Taiwanese passport is good > > enough to travel almost everywhere, it's just not accepted for IGF > > registration. > > > > Actually I find it curious that a passport is required at all for IGF. > > After all quite a few people could travel to Berlin without one: not > > only all Germans but everybody in the Schengen zone as well. > > > > Although the guidelines only talk about "picture ID", even if the > > account creation form wants passport... has anybody tried to use > > another type of ID? > > > > (Yeah, getting rid of nation states would solve this problem. I fear > > we won't get it done in time for this year's IGF though.) > > > > Tapani > > > > On Sep 07 14:35, farzaneh badii (governance at lists.riseup.net) wrote: > > > > > E-citizenship doesnt give you a passport to travel. The only solution is > > to > > > get rid of the concept of nation states and treat people as people and > > not > > > clans. > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 2:23 PM Bill Woodcock wrote: > > > > > > > Estonian E-citizenships, perhaps? > > > > > > > > Doesn’t solve the problem, but it’s a work-around. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 6, 2019, at 01:52, Michael J. Oghia (via governance Mailing > > List) < > > > > governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Ian, > > > > > > > > Thanks so much for this thoughtful response, and indeed, I sent it in > > > > frustration. I realise, however, that this issue goes way beyond the > > IGF. > > > > Moreover, since a member of the Chinese government is a member of the > > MAG, > > > > I seriously doubt the MAG would even be open to discussing it. > > > > > > > > The point you raise about stateless individuals is an interesting one, > > > > though, as I don't know what the protocol is for that. Taiwan nationals > > > > clearly aren't stateless, though, so those are two separate points > > > > (regardless, I still recommend the IGF develop a procedure for > > including > > > > stateless individuals/groups). > > > > > > > > It seems this is an injustice that will have to pursue, and she can > > attend > > > > remotely if interested. > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > -Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM ian.peter at ianpeter.com < > > > > ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> I wish there was an easy answer to this Michael. > > > >> > > > >> But as I understand it, we are dealing with a whole-of-UN problem, not > > > >> just an IGF one. For whatever historic reasons, and they are to do > > with > > > >> recognition of the Peoples Republic of China, Taiwan is not > > recognised by > > > >> the UN as a nation state - although they would like to be and have a > > few > > > >> allies pushing their cause. > > > >> > > > >> I believe it goes back to 1971. China's attitude has been "The *United > > > >> Nations* is an international organization composed of sovereign > > states. > > > >> *Taiwan* as a province of China is completely *not* qualified and *has > > > >> no* right to participate in it. Due to the well-known reasons, the > > > >> *Taiwan* authorities illegally usurped China's *UN* seat for as long > > as > > > >> 22 years" (http://ae.china-embassy.org/eng/zt/twwt/t150866.htm) > > > >> > > > >> But having said that - others might be able to provide more > > background - > > > >> since IGF is not a meeting of nation states, but also includes civil > > > >> society and other stakeholders, one would think there might be a way > > > >> around it. Yes, to register one needs a passport - maybe an ally of > > Taiwan > > > >> would be prepared to issue passports or acceptab;e documents for > > Taiwanese > > > >> citizens? > > > >> > > > >> I don't know how we could get around this, just brainstorming. In an > > > >> ideal IGF, stateless people would have a voice and be able to attend, > > > >> subject of course to standard security clearances. Maybe MAG could > > explore > > > >> this? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Ian Peter > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ------ Original Message ------ > > > >> From: "Michael J. Oghia" > > > >> To: "IGC" > > > >> Sent: 6/09/2019 5:49:07 PM > > > >> Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF > > > >> > > > >> Hi everyone, > > > >> > > > >> I'd like to raise a serious concern I have regarding the IGF. A > > contact > > > >> of mine in Taiwan is having trouble registering for the IGF. She > > solely has > > > >> a Taiwanese passport, but the IGF, as a UN event, can only register > > > >> individuals who have a passport from a UN member state (of which > > Taiwan is > > > >> not a member). I checked with the IGF Secretariat, and unfortunately, > > > >> there's not much they can do about it. > > > >> > > > >> I know that the politics surrounding China and Taiwan are contentious, > > > >> however, this essentially means that she (and anyone else) from > > Taiwan – > > > >> more than 23.5 million people – are essentially barred from attending > > the > > > >> IGF if they don't have another passport. > > > >> > > > >> I find this *deeply problematic* and in violation of the fundamental > > > >> principles of the multi-stakeholder model, namely the fact that it's > > meant > > > >> to be inclusive and open to all. > > > >> > > > >> Has anyone encountered this problem in the past, either in the IG > > sector > > > >> or another development sector? Does anyone have ideas for how it can > > be > > > >> resolved? I'm well aware this is not the first instance of a Taiwanese > > > >> national being excluded from participation in a global event, so > > perhaps > > > >> this is a moot point and no one can help. Still, it still strikes me > > as > > > >> incredibly unjust and unfair that regional politics would prevent > > > >> individuals from attending the IGF. > > > >> > > > >> Best, > > > >> -Michael > > > >> __________________ > > > >> > > > >> Michael J. Oghia | Advocacy & Engagement Manager > > > >> Global Forum for Media Development (GFMD ) > > > >> Belgrade, Serbia | Twitter | > > LinkedIn > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> --- > > > > To unsubscribe: > > > > > > > > List help: > > > > > > > > --- > > > > To unsubscribe: > > > > List help: > > > > > > > -- > > > Farzaneh > > --- > > To unsubscribe: > > List help: > > > -- > Farzaneh From governance at lists.riseup.net Mon Sep 9 09:17:17 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (farzaneh badii (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 09:17:17 -0400 Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF In-Reply-To: <20190909124826.GD12163@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> References: <20190909115736.GB12163@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> <20190909124826.GD12163@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> Message-ID: Tapani Any person who holds a passport from a non-UN member state and do not have another passport (Chinese or American or European) cannot register and participate at the UN. Been a known problem. Yes you need to specify the country which has issued your passport. Taiwan is not among the countries listed to choose from because of the UN policy. If you can't register you can't go. And it's not only about Taiwan. And UN rules unfortunately overcome IGF rules. It's a UN conference, UN protocol. On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 8:49 AM Tapani Tarvainen wrote: > Actually you do not need to identify your nationality, you only > need to specify the origin of your passport. > > And that could be challenged on the grounds that guidelines do not > insist on people having a passport. After all technical limitations on > the website can't override actual policy. I think they just might give > in on that if someone wanted to attend with a credible reason for not > having a passport but had another type of picture ID. > > They guidelines also state that the IGF welcomes "the participation of > all stakeholders..." and "participant status shall be provided to any > individual who fulfills the requirements" without any qualification as > to nationality that I can see. > > And Taiwanese can enter Germany with their own passport, without > even needing a visa. > > So if a Taiwanese had a picture ID issued by a state recognised by UN > they should be able to attend. I presume "recognized" there includes > observer countries like Palestine and Vatican (which, incidentally, > maintains diplomatic relations with Taiwan). > > Hmm. > > Tapani > > On Sep 09 08:11, farzaneh badii (farzaneh.badii at gmail.com) wrote: > > > You have to identify your nationality on the form to register. Last time > I > > checked Taiwan wasn't listed. Also not all passports arecprvileged enough > > to just pop into another country with without a visa. So I wonder if > they'd > > even get a visa letter.. Maybe if they are physically in the host city > ... > > But if not ... > > > > On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 7:58 AM Tapani Tarvainen < > tapani.tarvainen at effi.org> > > wrote: > > > > > I don't think the issue here is travel: Taiwanese passport is good > > > enough to travel almost everywhere, it's just not accepted for IGF > > > registration. > > > > > > Actually I find it curious that a passport is required at all for IGF. > > > After all quite a few people could travel to Berlin without one: not > > > only all Germans but everybody in the Schengen zone as well. > > > > > > Although the guidelines only talk about "picture ID", even if the > > > account creation form wants passport... has anybody tried to use > > > another type of ID? > > > > > > (Yeah, getting rid of nation states would solve this problem. I fear > > > we won't get it done in time for this year's IGF though.) > > > > > > Tapani > > > > > > On Sep 07 14:35, farzaneh badii (governance at lists.riseup.net) wrote: > > > > > > > E-citizenship doesnt give you a passport to travel. The only > solution is > > > to > > > > get rid of the concept of nation states and treat people as people > and > > > not > > > > clans. > > > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 2:23 PM Bill Woodcock wrote: > > > > > > > > > Estonian E-citizenships, perhaps? > > > > > > > > > > Doesn’t solve the problem, but it’s a work-around. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 6, 2019, at 01:52, Michael J. Oghia (via governance Mailing > > > List) < > > > > > governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ian, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks so much for this thoughtful response, and indeed, I sent it > in > > > > > frustration. I realise, however, that this issue goes way beyond > the > > > IGF. > > > > > Moreover, since a member of the Chinese government is a member of > the > > > MAG, > > > > > I seriously doubt the MAG would even be open to discussing it. > > > > > > > > > > The point you raise about stateless individuals is an interesting > one, > > > > > though, as I don't know what the protocol is for that. Taiwan > nationals > > > > > clearly aren't stateless, though, so those are two separate points > > > > > (regardless, I still recommend the IGF develop a procedure for > > > including > > > > > stateless individuals/groups). > > > > > > > > > > It seems this is an injustice that will have to pursue, and she can > > > attend > > > > > remotely if interested. > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > -Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM ian.peter at ianpeter.com < > > > > > ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> I wish there was an easy answer to this Michael. > > > > >> > > > > >> But as I understand it, we are dealing with a whole-of-UN > problem, not > > > > >> just an IGF one. For whatever historic reasons, and they are to do > > > with > > > > >> recognition of the Peoples Republic of China, Taiwan is not > > > recognised by > > > > >> the UN as a nation state - although they would like to be and > have a > > > few > > > > >> allies pushing their cause. > > > > >> > > > > >> I believe it goes back to 1971. China's attitude has been "The > *United > > > > >> Nations* is an international organization composed of sovereign > > > states. > > > > >> *Taiwan* as a province of China is completely *not* qualified and > *has > > > > >> no* right to participate in it. Due to the well-known reasons, the > > > > >> *Taiwan* authorities illegally usurped China's *UN* seat for as > long > > > as > > > > >> 22 years" (http://ae.china-embassy.org/eng/zt/twwt/t150866.htm) > > > > >> > > > > >> But having said that - others might be able to provide more > > > background - > > > > >> since IGF is not a meeting of nation states, but also includes > civil > > > > >> society and other stakeholders, one would think there might be a > way > > > > >> around it. Yes, to register one needs a passport - maybe an ally > of > > > Taiwan > > > > >> would be prepared to issue passports or acceptab;e documents for > > > Taiwanese > > > > >> citizens? > > > > >> > > > > >> I don't know how we could get around this, just brainstorming. In > an > > > > >> ideal IGF, stateless people would have a voice and be able to > attend, > > > > >> subject of course to standard security clearances. Maybe MAG could > > > explore > > > > >> this? > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Ian Peter > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> ------ Original Message ------ > > > > >> From: "Michael J. Oghia" > > > > >> To: "IGC" > > > > >> Sent: 6/09/2019 5:49:07 PM > > > > >> Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF > > > > >> > > > > >> Hi everyone, > > > > >> > > > > >> I'd like to raise a serious concern I have regarding the IGF. A > > > contact > > > > >> of mine in Taiwan is having trouble registering for the IGF. She > > > solely has > > > > >> a Taiwanese passport, but the IGF, as a UN event, can only > register > > > > >> individuals who have a passport from a UN member state (of which > > > Taiwan is > > > > >> not a member). I checked with the IGF Secretariat, and > unfortunately, > > > > >> there's not much they can do about it. > > > > >> > > > > >> I know that the politics surrounding China and Taiwan are > contentious, > > > > >> however, this essentially means that she (and anyone else) from > > > Taiwan – > > > > >> more than 23.5 million people – are essentially barred from > attending > > > the > > > > >> IGF if they don't have another passport. > > > > >> > > > > >> I find this *deeply problematic* and in violation of the > fundamental > > > > >> principles of the multi-stakeholder model, namely the fact that > it's > > > meant > > > > >> to be inclusive and open to all. > > > > >> > > > > >> Has anyone encountered this problem in the past, either in the IG > > > sector > > > > >> or another development sector? Does anyone have ideas for how it > can > > > be > > > > >> resolved? I'm well aware this is not the first instance of a > Taiwanese > > > > >> national being excluded from participation in a global event, so > > > perhaps > > > > >> this is a moot point and no one can help. Still, it still strikes > me > > > as > > > > >> incredibly unjust and unfair that regional politics would prevent > > > > >> individuals from attending the IGF. > > > > >> > > > > >> Best, > > > > >> -Michael > > > > >> __________________ > > > > >> > > > > >> Michael J. 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On Mon, 9 Sep 2019, 11:38 am Ian Peter, wrote: > > one more piece of information I forgot to include: > > The candidate with the most votes gets elected for a two year term, and > the candidate with the second most votes for a one year term. This puts the > election of co coordinators back into sync. > > In the event of a tie, the length of terms will be decided by the toss of > a coin. > > Ian > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Ian Peter" > To: "governance" > Sent: 9/09/2019 8:21:53 PM > Subject: [governance] Important Information re Upcoming Election > > Dear IGC List member, > > Within the next 48 hours you can expect to receive an email inviting you > to vote in the IGC Co coordinator elections for 2019. We will notify you > again when the messages are dispatched. If you do not receive the message, > you may want to check your junk email or spam filters in case your software > has filtered the message from this mass mailing. 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On Saturday, 7 September 2019, 19:05:15 GMT+5, Carlos Vera wrote: Dear Imran. Such a great motivation is needed here and everywhere.  Thank you for this Carlos VeraEcuador El 7 sep. 2019, a la(s) 04:09, Imran Ahmed Shah (via governance Mailing List) escribió: Dear Colleagues at IGCaucus, Knowing that IG Caucus CS was formed in the context of the WSIS to promote global public interest objectives in Internet governance policy making, I joined IGC in 2009, contributed actively in discussions and had been contestant in 2011-13, 2012-14, 2014-16 coco elections. Most of the IGC member knows that I had been member of BestBits Steering Committee 2014-15 and 2017-18 and has been part of the closure team.  Now, I understand that IGC has to play its important role at 15+ Review Process of WSIS & UN IGF Renewal at the “75th Anniversary of The United Nations'" in 2020 having its agenda of Renewal and Innovation. Are you prepare for that...? Let's reorganize the IGC to cope with the upcoming challenges. With the same aim recently played an active role to revive IGC Website (which had been compromised/ hijacked since last 18 months). I am thankful to IGC ex-coordinators, who nominated me, believing that IGC needs some resource like me. I accepted nomination on 28-Aug and shared my biodata (also attached herewith) with Scrutineers/ Returning Officers on 03-Sep, however I was advised to share shorter form statement by 7-Sep. My 300 words statement for the election is as follows: = Statement Starts Here = My name is Imran Ahmed Shah, belong to Pakistan (AP Region), serving Civil Society as Public-Policy advocate, Private-Sector as Technologist since 1985. Participating, Representing National, Regional & Global platforms & forums related to Public-Policy/IG/IP/Info-Sec matters. Established ‘Linguistic Internet Council’ and ‘Urdu Internet Society’ platforms to unite ‘Linguistic User Communities’ to form ‘Internet Layers’ with excellence. Established ‘Youth/IGF Pakistan’ following WSIS Tunis agenda. Remain involved with UN-GAID, UNESCO-Conference "Connecting the Dots” and WSIS 10+ Review Process, supporting CS instance. Achievements including ‘Two-Letter limitation Removal for IDN-ccTLD’, ‘100% waiver for developing countries in FastTrack’, ۔پاکستان dot Pakistan IDN ccTLD Registry, gTLDs conflict-resolution at ICANN36 at Seoul, Securing ISLA-Awards for InfoSec Professionals at SecureAsia at Jakarta/Tokyo/Philippine, ISOCPakistan rejuvenation, workshops at APrIGF-2013 at Seoul/2014 at NewDelhi/2015 at Macau on ‘Governance for the Internet of Kids/Teenagers/Youngsters’. Got Patent US9,779,066B2; PUNYCODE Conversion System for IDN-cc/gTLDs.   = Motivation/ Reason =   Ex-Coordinators strongly believe that: The IGC needs some Technical Expertise, if it is to run smoothly. …. Imran has stepped smoothly, and as generously, into Jeremy’s place, in providing the technical backup to get the IGC up and running again. As well as this he brings a perception of IG from the non-anglophone developing world, which it is crucially important should be part of a Civil Society “voice”. (Deirdre Williams) “.. it is critical that the nominees have been members for at least several years ensuring they have IGC context. Being on the Technical Team with Imran, his Leadership, Alacrity and Efficiency in execution-of-duties not to mention his Collaborative-Nature has been nothing short of impressive. Imran, has institutional memory, leadership skills and the connections needed to take the IGC from the ashes to position it where it needs to be, not just collaborating with //groups but making the IGC visible in diverse-spaces and restoring its credibility”. (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro) = Statement Ends Here = I will submit required information to the Returning Office with in given time frame (and will also share with you). Once again thanking you for your trust. Best Regards Imran Ahmed Shah On Tuesday, 27 August 2019, 23:17:50 GMT+5, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote: I second this nomination and add that it is critical that the nominees have been members for at least over several years to ensure that they have context of the IGC. Being on the technical team with Imran, his leadership, alacrity and efficiency in execution of duties not to mention his collaborative nature has been nothing short of impressive. Sala On Tue, 27 Aug 2019, 7:12 pm Deirdre Williams, wrote: Imran Ahmed Shah Country of residence: Pakistan I nominate Imran Ahmed Shah to be one of twoco-coordinators for the Internet Governance Caucus (IGC). The IGC needs sometechnical expertise if it is to run smoothly. Jeremy Malcolm has generouslybeen providing that for years – he needs a break. Imran has stepped smoothly,and as generously, into Jeremy’s place, in providing the technical backup toget the IGC up and running again. As well as this he brings a perception ofinternet governance from the non-anglophone developing world, which it iscrucially important should be part of a civil society “voice”. Deirdre Williams-- “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979--- To unsubscribe: List help: --- To unsubscribe: List help: --- To unsubscribe: List help: --- To unsubscribe: List help: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tapani.tarvainen at effi.org Tue Sep 10 14:26:44 2019 From: tapani.tarvainen at effi.org (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2019 21:26:44 +0300 Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF In-Reply-To: References: <20190909115736.GB12163@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> <20190909124826.GD12163@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> Message-ID: <20190910182644.GA16941@tarvainen.info> Hi Farzaneh, I'm not disagreeing with you insofar as current situation is in practice. But I'm trying to look at it at another angle. Human-made rules are not carved in stone, not even UN ones, and there's no explicit, all-encompassing rule in the UN saying a passport is needed at all UN events, even if it is currently common practice. Or if there is (I'd love a pointer) exceptions have been made before. And, Lessig to the contrary notwithstanding, web forms are not law and they can be worked around if there's a good case for it and enough political will. For UN rules if any are political, not technical. Now I don't expect that'll happen in this case, certainly not this year. But making an effort, even if a small one, might nudge things a little in the right direction. And when everything is said and done, I tend to think it'd be just a smidgen easier to make UN relax its rules than your (admittedly preferable) solution of abolishing nation states. :-) Cheers, Tapani On Mon, Sep 09, 2019 at 09:17:17AM -0400, farzaneh badii (governance at lists.riseup.net) wrote: > > Tapani > > Any person who holds a passport from a non-UN member state and do not have > another passport (Chinese or American or European) cannot register and > participate at the UN. Been a known problem. Yes you need to specify the > country which has issued your passport. Taiwan is not among the countries > listed to choose from because of the UN policy. If you can't register you > can't go. And it's not only about Taiwan. And UN rules unfortunately > overcome IGF rules. It's a UN conference, UN protocol. > > On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 8:49 AM Tapani Tarvainen > wrote: > > > Actually you do not need to identify your nationality, you only > > need to specify the origin of your passport. > > > > And that could be challenged on the grounds that guidelines do not > > insist on people having a passport. After all technical limitations on > > the website can't override actual policy. I think they just might give > > in on that if someone wanted to attend with a credible reason for not > > having a passport but had another type of picture ID. > > > > They guidelines also state that the IGF welcomes "the participation of > > all stakeholders..." and "participant status shall be provided to any > > individual who fulfills the requirements" without any qualification as > > to nationality that I can see. > > > > And Taiwanese can enter Germany with their own passport, without > > even needing a visa. > > > > So if a Taiwanese had a picture ID issued by a state recognised by UN > > they should be able to attend. I presume "recognized" there includes > > observer countries like Palestine and Vatican (which, incidentally, > > maintains diplomatic relations with Taiwan). > > > > Hmm. > > > > Tapani > > > > On Sep 09 08:11, farzaneh badii (farzaneh.badii at gmail.com) wrote: > > > > > You have to identify your nationality on the form to register. Last time > > I > > > checked Taiwan wasn't listed. Also not all passports arecprvileged enough > > > to just pop into another country with without a visa. So I wonder if > > they'd > > > even get a visa letter.. Maybe if they are physically in the host city > > ... > > > But if not ... > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 7:58 AM Tapani Tarvainen < > > tapani.tarvainen at effi.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I don't think the issue here is travel: Taiwanese passport is good > > > > enough to travel almost everywhere, it's just not accepted for IGF > > > > registration. > > > > > > > > Actually I find it curious that a passport is required at all for IGF. > > > > After all quite a few people could travel to Berlin without one: not > > > > only all Germans but everybody in the Schengen zone as well. > > > > > > > > Although the guidelines only talk about "picture ID", even if the > > > > account creation form wants passport... has anybody tried to use > > > > another type of ID? > > > > > > > > (Yeah, getting rid of nation states would solve this problem. I fear > > > > we won't get it done in time for this year's IGF though.) > > > > > > > > Tapani > > > > > > > > On Sep 07 14:35, farzaneh badii (governance at lists.riseup.net) wrote: > > > > > > > > > E-citizenship doesnt give you a passport to travel. The only > > solution is > > > > to > > > > > get rid of the concept of nation states and treat people as people > > and > > > > not > > > > > clans. > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 2:23 PM Bill Woodcock wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Estonian E-citizenships, perhaps? > > > > > > > > > > > > Doesn’t solve the problem, but it’s a work-around. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 6, 2019, at 01:52, Michael J. Oghia (via governance Mailing > > > > List) < > > > > > > governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ian, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks so much for this thoughtful response, and indeed, I sent it > > in > > > > > > frustration. I realise, however, that this issue goes way beyond > > the > > > > IGF. > > > > > > Moreover, since a member of the Chinese government is a member of > > the > > > > MAG, > > > > > > I seriously doubt the MAG would even be open to discussing it. > > > > > > > > > > > > The point you raise about stateless individuals is an interesting > > one, > > > > > > though, as I don't know what the protocol is for that. Taiwan > > nationals > > > > > > clearly aren't stateless, though, so those are two separate points > > > > > > (regardless, I still recommend the IGF develop a procedure for > > > > including > > > > > > stateless individuals/groups). > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems this is an injustice that will have to pursue, and she can > > > > attend > > > > > > remotely if interested. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > -Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM ian.peter at ianpeter.com < > > > > > > ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> I wish there was an easy answer to this Michael. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> But as I understand it, we are dealing with a whole-of-UN > > problem, not > > > > > >> just an IGF one. For whatever historic reasons, and they are to do > > > > with > > > > > >> recognition of the Peoples Republic of China, Taiwan is not > > > > recognised by > > > > > >> the UN as a nation state - although they would like to be and > > have a > > > > few > > > > > >> allies pushing their cause. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I believe it goes back to 1971. China's attitude has been "The > > *United > > > > > >> Nations* is an international organization composed of sovereign > > > > states. > > > > > >> *Taiwan* as a province of China is completely *not* qualified and > > *has > > > > > >> no* right to participate in it. Due to the well-known reasons, the > > > > > >> *Taiwan* authorities illegally usurped China's *UN* seat for as > > long > > > > as > > > > > >> 22 years" (http://ae.china-embassy.org/eng/zt/twwt/t150866.htm) > > > > > >> > > > > > >> But having said that - others might be able to provide more > > > > background - > > > > > >> since IGF is not a meeting of nation states, but also includes > > civil > > > > > >> society and other stakeholders, one would think there might be a > > way > > > > > >> around it. Yes, to register one needs a passport - maybe an ally > > of > > > > Taiwan > > > > > >> would be prepared to issue passports or acceptab;e documents for > > > > Taiwanese > > > > > >> citizens? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I don't know how we could get around this, just brainstorming. In > > an > > > > > >> ideal IGF, stateless people would have a voice and be able to > > attend, > > > > > >> subject of course to standard security clearances. Maybe MAG could > > > > explore > > > > > >> this? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Ian Peter > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> ------ Original Message ------ > > > > > >> From: "Michael J. Oghia" > > > > > >> To: "IGC" > > > > > >> Sent: 6/09/2019 5:49:07 PM > > > > > >> Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Hi everyone, > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I'd like to raise a serious concern I have regarding the IGF. A > > > > contact > > > > > >> of mine in Taiwan is having trouble registering for the IGF. She > > > > solely has > > > > > >> a Taiwanese passport, but the IGF, as a UN event, can only > > register > > > > > >> individuals who have a passport from a UN member state (of which > > > > Taiwan is > > > > > >> not a member). I checked with the IGF Secretariat, and > > unfortunately, > > > > > >> there's not much they can do about it. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I know that the politics surrounding China and Taiwan are > > contentious, > > > > > >> however, this essentially means that she (and anyone else) from > > > > Taiwan – > > > > > >> more than 23.5 million people – are essentially barred from > > attending > > > > the > > > > > >> IGF if they don't have another passport. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I find this *deeply problematic* and in violation of the > > fundamental > > > > > >> principles of the multi-stakeholder model, namely the fact that > > it's > > > > meant > > > > > >> to be inclusive and open to all. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Has anyone encountered this problem in the past, either in the IG > > > > sector > > > > > >> or another development sector? Does anyone have ideas for how it > > can > > > > be > > > > > >> resolved? I'm well aware this is not the first instance of a > > Taiwanese > > > > > >> national being excluded from participation in a global event, so > > > > perhaps > > > > > >> this is a moot point and no one can help. Still, it still strikes > > me > > > > as > > > > > >> incredibly unjust and unfair that regional politics would prevent > > > > > >> individuals from attending the IGF. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Best, > > > > > >> -Michael > > > > > >> __________________ > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Michael J. Oghia | Advocacy & Engagement Manager > > > > > >> Global Forum for Media Development (GFMD ) > > > > > >> Belgrade, Serbia | Twitter | > > > > LinkedIn > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> --- > > > > > > To unsubscribe: > > > > > > > > > > > > List help: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > To unsubscribe: > > > > > > List help: > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Farzaneh > > > > --- > > > > To unsubscribe: > > > > List help: > > > > > > > -- > > > Farzaneh > > --- > > To unsubscribe: > > List help: > > > -- > Farzaneh > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: -- Tapani Tarvainen From governance at lists.riseup.net Wed Sep 4 16:43:58 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Deirdre Williams (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 16:43:58 -0400 Subject: [governance] " ... the disabling fragmentation within civil society ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Since this problem has presented itself to IGC s well, there may be interest in this project. Deirdre --------- Forwarded message --------- Da: Great Transition Network Risposta: Data: martedì 3 settembre 2019 17:44 A: Roberto Savio Oggetto: Farewell to the WSF? (GTN Discussions) From Paul Raskin [praskin at tellus.org] ---------------------------------------------------------- [*Note that this is being resent due to a glitch in the first email.]* Dear GTN, Since 2001, the World Social Forum has served as civil society’s answer to the World Economic Forum, the annual powwow in Davos of the masters of the neoliberal universe. Over the years, the WSF has brought together hundreds of thousands of activists to meet, network, and reenergize commitments. It has stood as a tangible expression of the diffuse but vibrant “alter globalization” community, and a source of hope for the emergence of a systemic global movement. At the same time, the WSF has mirrored the movement’s immaturity. Most significantly, the disabling fragmentation within civil society has been reflected in the forest of separate tents that spring up at Forums, each devoted to specific issues and grievances, with little exploration of common visions, positions, and coordination mechanisms. More prosaically, the logistical chaos that has plagued Forums and frustrated attendees symbolizes the underdeveloped organizational capacity of the “movement of movements.” Now, as these deficits take their toll and the times change, the WSF seems to be losing momentum and relevance. So it’s timely to critically reflect on its achievements and whether the WSF, itself, needs a Great Transition. Our September GTN Discussion—*FAREWELL TO THE WORLD SOCIAL FORUM?*—takes up the challenge. (Please organize your comments as responses to one or more of the following topics.) *Looking Back* *What has been the historic significance of the WSF? In what ways has its strategy of providing a neutral gathering space advanced (or curtailed) the “movement of movements”? * *At a Crossroads* *Does the WSF retain its vitality as a beacon of “another world,” or is it losing momentum? Has its unbending commitment to radical pluralism sacrificed movement unity? * *Looking Ahead* *Should the WSF continue to operate as an open space? Seek to reinvent itself as a collective force for political action? Or should attention shift to fresh initiatives for building a coherent global movement?* Roberto Savio, founder of Inter Press Service (IPS) and longtime member of the WSF International Council, opens the debate. His essay, soon to arrive by email, can be found here . I look forward to your comments, whether brief or extended (but less than 1,200 words). The discussion will go through Wednesday, October 2, when Roberto will have an opportunity to respond. Per usual, we will then create a public GTI Forum that samples a range of perspectives raised in the internal GTN discussion. Over to you, Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Hit reply to post a comment on the GT Network Read all comments (or reply) here Note: Expect a delay between posting and receiving your comment Need help? Email jcohn at tellus.org You are getting this notification because of you have subscribed into category. Please visit the category to unsubscribe. _______________________________________________ Forum mailing list Forum at justnetcoalition.org http://mail.justnetcoalition.org/listinfo/forum -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ian.peter at ianpeter.com Tue Sep 10 15:42:06 2019 From: ian.peter at ianpeter.com (Ian Peter) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2019 19:42:06 +0000 Subject: [governance] Co coordinator elections now underway! Message-ID: Dear IGC Subscribers, This is to advise that emails including your voting links are now being posted, and should be in your mailbox shortly (if not already). If you have not received the email within 24 hours, please contact us (returningofficers at igcaucus.org). But before doing so, please check your spam filters and junk email folders in case it has ended up there. The process should be straightforward enough, but below is a detailed explanation you might wish to review before voting. NOTE: We are aware of a recent glitch in the LimeSurvey Software being used for the ballot which might affect a small number of users. It appears to be confined to some configurations of Firefox browser: if you do encounter errors, you might like to try using another browser or another device to complete your vote. But if you still have problems after that, please contact us and we will find a way to allow you to register your vote. The voting invitation email includes a link to your personalized voting page. Please do not share it. If you have subscribed the list several times you may receive multiple voting invitations, but you may only use one. Do not use your browser's Back button at any time during the voting process. It will confuse the system. (If that happens, start over with the original link in the email.) You will first be asked to enter your name: we need it for IGC membership list, which will be published after the election is over. (Your email address will not be published, only your name.) Then you will have to verify your eligibility by confirming that (1) you identify as a member of the civil society, (2) you subscribe to the Charter of IGC, (3) you haven't yet voted with another email address and (4) you have been subscribed to the IGC mailing list for 2 months. If you do not agree to one or more of those, you cannot vote. In that case you could just ignore the voting invitation to begin with, or stop here, or click Next to technically complete the poll (you should do that if you made a mistake and want to start over). After verifying your eligibility you will get to the Voting page, where you'll see the candidates with checkboxes next to them. You can select one or two, or "none of the above." Due to technical limitations of the software used you can also check one candidate and "none of the above": the effect will be same as if you'd just selected one candidate. In any case the "none of the above" votes do not affect the results, the option is there only to allow people to remain IGC members even when they have no preference on the candidates. Note: this is not a preferential voting system: if you select two candidates, both will get one vote of equal value. After making your selection click "Next" and you'll get to Confirmation page. Click "Submit" there to send in your vote. You should receive confirmation email within a few minutes. If you make a mistake, whether in the verification or voting page, or if you simply change your mind, you can vote again using the same link (it will also be in the confirmation message). Only the last time will count. Voting closes on September 23. We look forward to your participation before then. Ian Peter and Tapani Tarvainen Returning Officers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Tue Sep 10 16:36:39 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" (via governance Mailing List) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2019 21:36:39 +0100 Subject: [governance] Co coordinator elections now underway! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Ian and Tapani. Have voted. On Tue, 10 Sep 2019, 8:42 pm Ian Peter, wrote: > Dear IGC Subscribers, > > This is to advise that emails including your voting links are now being > posted, and should be in your mailbox shortly (if not already). > > If you have not received the email within 24 hours, please contact us > (returningofficers at igcaucus.org). But before doing so, please check your > spam filters and junk email folders in case it has ended up there. > > The process should be straightforward enough, but below is a detailed > explanation you might wish to review before voting. > > NOTE: We are aware of a recent glitch in the LimeSurvey Software being > used for the ballot which might affect a small number of users. > It appears to be confined to some configurations of Firefox browser: > if you do encounter errors, you might like to try using another > browser or another device to complete your vote. 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In that > case you could just ignore the voting invitation to begin with, or > stop here, or click Next to technically complete the poll (you should > do that if you made a mistake and want to start over). > > After verifying your eligibility you will get to the Voting page, > where you'll see the candidates with checkboxes next to them. > You can select one or two, or "none of the above." > > Due to technical limitations of the software used you can also check > one candidate and "none of the above": the effect will be same as if > you'd just selected one candidate. In any case the "none of the above" > votes do not affect the results, the option is there only to allow > people to remain IGC members even when they have no preference on the > candidates. > > Note: this is not a preferential voting system: if you select two > candidates, both will get one vote of equal value. > > After making your selection click "Next" and you'll get to > Confirmation page. Click "Submit" there to send in your vote. > > You should receive confirmation email within a few minutes. > > If you make a mistake, whether in the verification or voting page, or > if you simply change your mind, you can vote again using the same link > (it will also be in the confirmation message). Only the last time will > count. > > Voting closes on September 23. We look forward to your > participation before then. > > Ian Peter and Tapani Tarvainen > Returning Officers > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Tue Sep 10 16:53:31 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Nnenna Nwakanma (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2019 20:53:31 +0000 Subject: [governance] Co coordinator elections now underway! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks a million, Ian, for your diligence. Voting done. All the best to the candidates Nnenna On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 8:45 PM "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" < governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: > Thanks Ian and Tapani. Have voted. > > On Tue, 10 Sep 2019, 8:42 pm Ian Peter, wrote: > >> Dear IGC Subscribers, >> >> This is to advise that emails including your voting links are now being >> posted, and should be in your mailbox shortly (if not already). >> >> If you have not received the email within 24 hours, please contact us >> (returningofficers at igcaucus.org). But before doing so, please check your >> spam filters and junk email folders in case it has ended up there. >> >> The process should be straightforward enough, but below is a detailed >> explanation you might wish to review before voting. >> >> NOTE: We are aware of a recent glitch in the LimeSurvey Software being >> used for the ballot which might affect a small number of users. >> It appears to be confined to some configurations of Firefox browser: >> if you do encounter errors, you might like to try using another >> browser or another device to complete your vote. But if you still have >> problems after that, please contact us and we will find a way to allow >> you to register your vote. >> >> >> The voting invitation email includes a link to your personalized >> voting page. Please do not share it. >> >> If you have subscribed the list several times you may receive multiple >> voting invitations, but you may only use one. >> >> Do not use your browser's Back button at any time during the voting >> process. It will confuse the system. (If that happens, start over with >> the original link in the email.) >> >> You will first be asked to enter your name: we need it for IGC >> membership list, which will be published after the election is over. >> (Your email address will not be published, only your name.) >> >> Then you will have to verify your eligibility by confirming that >> (1) you identify as a member of the civil society, >> (2) you subscribe to the Charter of IGC, >> (3) you haven't yet voted with another email address and >> (4) you have been subscribed to the IGC mailing list for 2 months. >> >> If you do not agree to one or more of those, you cannot vote. In that >> case you could just ignore the voting invitation to begin with, or >> stop here, or click Next to technically complete the poll (you should >> do that if you made a mistake and want to start over). >> >> After verifying your eligibility you will get to the Voting page, >> where you'll see the candidates with checkboxes next to them. >> You can select one or two, or "none of the above." >> >> Due to technical limitations of the software used you can also check >> one candidate and "none of the above": the effect will be same as if >> you'd just selected one candidate. In any case the "none of the above" >> votes do not affect the results, the option is there only to allow >> people to remain IGC members even when they have no preference on the >> candidates. >> >> Note: this is not a preferential voting system: if you select two >> candidates, both will get one vote of equal value. >> >> After making your selection click "Next" and you'll get to >> Confirmation page. Click "Submit" there to send in your vote. >> >> You should receive confirmation email within a few minutes. >> >> If you make a mistake, whether in the verification or voting page, or >> if you simply change your mind, you can vote again using the same link >> (it will also be in the confirmation message). Only the last time will >> count. >> >> Voting closes on September 23. We look forward to your >> participation before then. >> >> Ian Peter and Tapani Tarvainen >> Returning Officers >> >> --- >> To unsubscribe: >> List help: >> > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Tue Sep 10 17:25:25 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Sonigitu Ekpe (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2019 22:25:25 +0100 Subject: [governance] Co coordinator elections now underway! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Team, Many thanks for this great and interesting efforts. Congratulations to the candidates as their statements are of interest. I have voted. Best of regards Sonigitu Ekpe Environmental Governance Consultant +234 803 399 2350 On Tue, 10 Sep 2019, 21:54 Nnenna Nwakanma, wrote: > Thanks a million, Ian, for your diligence. > Voting done. > > All the best to the candidates > > Nnenna > > On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 8:45 PM "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" < > governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: > >> Thanks Ian and Tapani. Have voted. >> >> On Tue, 10 Sep 2019, 8:42 pm Ian Peter, wrote: >> >>> Dear IGC Subscribers, >>> >>> This is to advise that emails including your voting links are now being >>> posted, and should be in your mailbox shortly (if not already). >>> >>> If you have not received the email within 24 hours, please contact us >>> (returningofficers at igcaucus.org). But before doing so, please check your >>> spam filters and junk email folders in case it has ended up there. >>> >>> The process should be straightforward enough, but below is a detailed >>> explanation you might wish to review before voting. >>> >>> NOTE: We are aware of a recent glitch in the LimeSurvey Software being >>> used for the ballot which might affect a small number of users. >>> It appears to be confined to some configurations of Firefox browser: >>> if you do encounter errors, you might like to try using another >>> browser or another device to complete your vote. But if you still have >>> problems after that, please contact us and we will find a way to allow >>> you to register your vote. >>> >>> >>> The voting invitation email includes a link to your personalized >>> voting page. Please do not share it. >>> >>> If you have subscribed the list several times you may receive multiple >>> voting invitations, but you may only use one. >>> >>> Do not use your browser's Back button at any time during the voting >>> process. It will confuse the system. (If that happens, start over with >>> the original link in the email.) >>> >>> You will first be asked to enter your name: we need it for IGC >>> membership list, which will be published after the election is over. >>> (Your email address will not be published, only your name.) >>> >>> Then you will have to verify your eligibility by confirming that >>> (1) you identify as a member of the civil society, >>> (2) you subscribe to the Charter of IGC, >>> (3) you haven't yet voted with another email address and >>> (4) you have been subscribed to the IGC mailing list for 2 months. >>> >>> If you do not agree to one or more of those, you cannot vote. In that >>> case you could just ignore the voting invitation to begin with, or >>> stop here, or click Next to technically complete the poll (you should >>> do that if you made a mistake and want to start over). >>> >>> After verifying your eligibility you will get to the Voting page, >>> where you'll see the candidates with checkboxes next to them. >>> You can select one or two, or "none of the above." >>> >>> Due to technical limitations of the software used you can also check >>> one candidate and "none of the above": the effect will be same as if >>> you'd just selected one candidate. In any case the "none of the above" >>> votes do not affect the results, the option is there only to allow >>> people to remain IGC members even when they have no preference on the >>> candidates. >>> >>> Note: this is not a preferential voting system: if you select two >>> candidates, both will get one vote of equal value. >>> >>> After making your selection click "Next" and you'll get to >>> Confirmation page. Click "Submit" there to send in your vote. >>> >>> You should receive confirmation email within a few minutes. >>> >>> If you make a mistake, whether in the verification or voting page, or >>> if you simply change your mind, you can vote again using the same link >>> (it will also be in the confirmation message). Only the last time will >>> count. >>> >>> Voting closes on September 23. We look forward to your >>> participation before then. >>> >>> Ian Peter and Tapani Tarvainen >>> Returning Officers >>> >>> --- >>> To unsubscribe: >>> List help: >>> >> --- >> To unsubscribe: >> List help: >> > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ms at algorithmwatch.org Wed Sep 11 09:53:36 2019 From: ms at algorithmwatch.org (Matthias Spielkamp | AlgorithmWatch) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 15:53:36 +0200 Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF In-Reply-To: <20190910182644.GA16941@tarvainen.info> References: <20190909115736.GB12163@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> <20190909124826.GD12163@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> <20190910182644.GA16941@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: <3007bb3a-02bb-98fa-e43f-31b5d5d239a2@algorithmwatch.org> Hi all, Mozilla's Cathleen Berger asked me to share this with you since she's not on this list: Hi everyone, And thanks Michael for flagging this. While this doesn't solve the underlying issue, I do want to offer up our Mozilla Berlin event space as a spill-over location -- so anyone who is in town for IGF, but either can't get to the venue or wasn't able to register would be welcome to watch the sessions from our space, we'll also looking into setting it up for remote participation with the IGF. I'm happy to share an event invite a couple of weeks ahead of IGF, so for those of you interested -- more coming in early November. Warmly, Cathleen All the best Matthias On 10.09.19 20:26, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: > Hi Farzaneh, > > I'm not disagreeing with you insofar as current situation is in practice. > > But I'm trying to look at it at another angle. Human-made rules are > not carved in stone, not even UN ones, and there's no explicit, > all-encompassing rule in the UN saying a passport is needed at all UN > events, even if it is currently common practice. Or if there is (I'd > love a pointer) exceptions have been made before. > > And, Lessig to the contrary notwithstanding, web forms are not law and > they can be worked around if there's a good case for it and enough > political will. For UN rules if any are political, not technical. > > Now I don't expect that'll happen in this case, certainly not this > year. But making an effort, even if a small one, might nudge things a > little in the right direction. And when everything is said and done, I > tend to think it'd be just a smidgen easier to make UN relax its rules > than your (admittedly preferable) solution of abolishing nation > states. :-) > > Cheers, > > Tapani > > > On Mon, Sep 09, 2019 at 09:17:17AM -0400, farzaneh badii (governance at lists.riseup.net) wrote: >> >> Tapani >> >> Any person who holds a passport from a non-UN member state and do not have >> another passport (Chinese or American or European) cannot register and >> participate at the UN. Been a known problem. Yes you need to specify the >> country which has issued your passport. Taiwan is not among the countries >> listed to choose from because of the UN policy. If you can't register you >> can't go. And it's not only about Taiwan. And UN rules unfortunately >> overcome IGF rules. It's a UN conference, UN protocol. >> >> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 8:49 AM Tapani Tarvainen >> wrote: >> >>> Actually you do not need to identify your nationality, you only >>> need to specify the origin of your passport. >>> >>> And that could be challenged on the grounds that guidelines do not >>> insist on people having a passport. After all technical limitations on >>> the website can't override actual policy. I think they just might give >>> in on that if someone wanted to attend with a credible reason for not >>> having a passport but had another type of picture ID. >>> >>> They guidelines also state that the IGF welcomes "the participation of >>> all stakeholders..." and "participant status shall be provided to any >>> individual who fulfills the requirements" without any qualification as >>> to nationality that I can see. >>> >>> And Taiwanese can enter Germany with their own passport, without >>> even needing a visa. >>> >>> So if a Taiwanese had a picture ID issued by a state recognised by UN >>> they should be able to attend. I presume "recognized" there includes >>> observer countries like Palestine and Vatican (which, incidentally, >>> maintains diplomatic relations with Taiwan). >>> >>> Hmm. >>> >>> Tapani >>> >>> On Sep 09 08:11, farzaneh badii (farzaneh.badii at gmail.com) wrote: >>> >>>> You have to identify your nationality on the form to register. Last time >>> I >>>> checked Taiwan wasn't listed. Also not all passports arecprvileged enough >>>> to just pop into another country with without a visa. So I wonder if >>> they'd >>>> even get a visa letter.. Maybe if they are physically in the host city >>> ... >>>> But if not ... >>>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 7:58 AM Tapani Tarvainen < >>> tapani.tarvainen at effi.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't think the issue here is travel: Taiwanese passport is good >>>>> enough to travel almost everywhere, it's just not accepted for IGF >>>>> registration. >>>>> >>>>> Actually I find it curious that a passport is required at all for IGF. >>>>> After all quite a few people could travel to Berlin without one: not >>>>> only all Germans but everybody in the Schengen zone as well. >>>>> >>>>> Although the guidelines only talk about "picture ID", even if the >>>>> account creation form wants passport... has anybody tried to use >>>>> another type of ID? >>>>> >>>>> (Yeah, getting rid of nation states would solve this problem. I fear >>>>> we won't get it done in time for this year's IGF though.) >>>>> >>>>> Tapani >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 07 14:35, farzaneh badii (governance at lists.riseup.net) wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> E-citizenship doesnt give you a passport to travel. The only >>> solution is >>>>> to >>>>>> get rid of the concept of nation states and treat people as people >>> and >>>>> not >>>>>> clans. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 2:23 PM Bill Woodcock wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Estonian E-citizenships, perhaps? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Doesn’t solve the problem, but it’s a work-around. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Bill >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 6, 2019, at 01:52, Michael J. Oghia (via governance Mailing >>>>> List) < >>>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Ian, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks so much for this thoughtful response, and indeed, I sent it >>> in >>>>>>> frustration. I realise, however, that this issue goes way beyond >>> the >>>>> IGF. >>>>>>> Moreover, since a member of the Chinese government is a member of >>> the >>>>> MAG, >>>>>>> I seriously doubt the MAG would even be open to discussing it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The point you raise about stateless individuals is an interesting >>> one, >>>>>>> though, as I don't know what the protocol is for that. Taiwan >>> nationals >>>>>>> clearly aren't stateless, though, so those are two separate points >>>>>>> (regardless, I still recommend the IGF develop a procedure for >>>>> including >>>>>>> stateless individuals/groups). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It seems this is an injustice that will have to pursue, and she can >>>>> attend >>>>>>> remotely if interested. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> -Michael >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM ian.peter at ianpeter.com < >>>>>>> ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I wish there was an easy answer to this Michael. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But as I understand it, we are dealing with a whole-of-UN >>> problem, not >>>>>>>> just an IGF one. For whatever historic reasons, and they are to do >>>>> with >>>>>>>> recognition of the Peoples Republic of China, Taiwan is not >>>>> recognised by >>>>>>>> the UN as a nation state - although they would like to be and >>> have a >>>>> few >>>>>>>> allies pushing their cause. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I believe it goes back to 1971. China's attitude has been "The >>> *United >>>>>>>> Nations* is an international organization composed of sovereign >>>>> states. >>>>>>>> *Taiwan* as a province of China is completely *not* qualified and >>> *has >>>>>>>> no* right to participate in it. Due to the well-known reasons, the >>>>>>>> *Taiwan* authorities illegally usurped China's *UN* seat for as >>> long >>>>> as >>>>>>>> 22 years" (http://ae.china-embassy.org/eng/zt/twwt/t150866.htm) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But having said that - others might be able to provide more >>>>> background - >>>>>>>> since IGF is not a meeting of nation states, but also includes >>> civil >>>>>>>> society and other stakeholders, one would think there might be a >>> way >>>>>>>> around it. Yes, to register one needs a passport - maybe an ally >>> of >>>>> Taiwan >>>>>>>> would be prepared to issue passports or acceptab;e documents for >>>>> Taiwanese >>>>>>>> citizens? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't know how we could get around this, just brainstorming. In >>> an >>>>>>>> ideal IGF, stateless people would have a voice and be able to >>> attend, >>>>>>>> subject of course to standard security clearances. Maybe MAG could >>>>> explore >>>>>>>> this? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ian Peter >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>>>>> From: "Michael J. Oghia" >>>>>>>> To: "IGC" >>>>>>>> Sent: 6/09/2019 5:49:07 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'd like to raise a serious concern I have regarding the IGF. A >>>>> contact >>>>>>>> of mine in Taiwan is having trouble registering for the IGF. She >>>>> solely has >>>>>>>> a Taiwanese passport, but the IGF, as a UN event, can only >>> register >>>>>>>> individuals who have a passport from a UN member state (of which >>>>> Taiwan is >>>>>>>> not a member). I checked with the IGF Secretariat, and >>> unfortunately, >>>>>>>> there's not much they can do about it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I know that the politics surrounding China and Taiwan are >>> contentious, >>>>>>>> however, this essentially means that she (and anyone else) from >>>>> Taiwan – >>>>>>>> more than 23.5 million people – are essentially barred from >>> attending >>>>> the >>>>>>>> IGF if they don't have another passport. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I find this *deeply problematic* and in violation of the >>> fundamental >>>>>>>> principles of the multi-stakeholder model, namely the fact that >>> it's >>>>> meant >>>>>>>> to be inclusive and open to all. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Has anyone encountered this problem in the past, either in the IG >>>>> sector >>>>>>>> or another development sector? Does anyone have ideas for how it >>> can >>>>> be >>>>>>>> resolved? I'm well aware this is not the first instance of a >>> Taiwanese >>>>>>>> national being excluded from participation in a global event, so >>>>> perhaps >>>>>>>> this is a moot point and no one can help. Still, it still strikes >>> me >>>>> as >>>>>>>> incredibly unjust and unfair that regional politics would prevent >>>>>>>> individuals from attending the IGF. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> -Michael >>>>>>>> __________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Michael J. 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Oghia" (via governance Mailing List) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 15:56:18 +0200 Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF In-Reply-To: <3007bb3a-02bb-98fa-e43f-31b5d5d239a2@algorithmwatch.org> References: <20190909115736.GB12163@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> <20190909124826.GD12163@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> <20190910182644.GA16941@tarvainen.info> <3007bb3a-02bb-98fa-e43f-31b5d5d239a2@algorithmwatch.org> Message-ID: Hi Matthias and Cathleen (in BCC), Thank you so much for this offer and for you support, it's really appreciated. In case you all decide to host side events as well, please do let us know. It's always a pleasure to support the incredible work Mozilla does! Best, -Michael On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 3:54 PM Matthias Spielkamp | AlgorithmWatch < ms at algorithmwatch.org> wrote: > Hi all, > > Mozilla's Cathleen Berger asked me to share this with you since she's > not on this list: > > Hi everyone, > > And thanks Michael for flagging this. > While this doesn't solve the underlying issue, I do want to offer up our > Mozilla Berlin event space as a spill-over location -- so anyone who is > in town for IGF, but either can't get to the venue or wasn't able to > register would be welcome to watch the sessions from our space, we'll > also looking into setting it up for remote participation with the IGF. > I'm happy to share an event invite a couple of weeks ahead of IGF, so > for those of you interested -- more coming in early November. > > Warmly, > Cathleen > > All the best > Matthias > > On 10.09.19 20:26, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: > > Hi Farzaneh, > > > > I'm not disagreeing with you insofar as current situation is in practice. > > > > But I'm trying to look at it at another angle. Human-made rules are > > not carved in stone, not even UN ones, and there's no explicit, > > all-encompassing rule in the UN saying a passport is needed at all UN > > events, even if it is currently common practice. Or if there is (I'd > > love a pointer) exceptions have been made before. > > > > And, Lessig to the contrary notwithstanding, web forms are not law and > > they can be worked around if there's a good case for it and enough > > political will. For UN rules if any are political, not technical. > > > > Now I don't expect that'll happen in this case, certainly not this > > year. But making an effort, even if a small one, might nudge things a > > little in the right direction. And when everything is said and done, I > > tend to think it'd be just a smidgen easier to make UN relax its rules > > than your (admittedly preferable) solution of abolishing nation > > states. :-) > > > > Cheers, > > > > Tapani > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 09, 2019 at 09:17:17AM -0400, farzaneh badii ( > governance at lists.riseup.net) wrote: > >> > >> Tapani > >> > >> Any person who holds a passport from a non-UN member state and do not > have > >> another passport (Chinese or American or European) cannot register and > >> participate at the UN. Been a known problem. Yes you need to specify the > >> country which has issued your passport. Taiwan is not among the > countries > >> listed to choose from because of the UN policy. If you can't register > you > >> can't go. And it's not only about Taiwan. And UN rules unfortunately > >> overcome IGF rules. It's a UN conference, UN protocol. > >> > >> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 8:49 AM Tapani Tarvainen < > tapani.tarvainen at effi.org> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Actually you do not need to identify your nationality, you only > >>> need to specify the origin of your passport. > >>> > >>> And that could be challenged on the grounds that guidelines do not > >>> insist on people having a passport. After all technical limitations on > >>> the website can't override actual policy. I think they just might give > >>> in on that if someone wanted to attend with a credible reason for not > >>> having a passport but had another type of picture ID. > >>> > >>> They guidelines also state that the IGF welcomes "the participation of > >>> all stakeholders..." and "participant status shall be provided to any > >>> individual who fulfills the requirements" without any qualification as > >>> to nationality that I can see. > >>> > >>> And Taiwanese can enter Germany with their own passport, without > >>> even needing a visa. > >>> > >>> So if a Taiwanese had a picture ID issued by a state recognised by UN > >>> they should be able to attend. I presume "recognized" there includes > >>> observer countries like Palestine and Vatican (which, incidentally, > >>> maintains diplomatic relations with Taiwan). > >>> > >>> Hmm. > >>> > >>> Tapani > >>> > >>> On Sep 09 08:11, farzaneh badii (farzaneh.badii at gmail.com) wrote: > >>> > >>>> You have to identify your nationality on the form to register. Last > time > >>> I > >>>> checked Taiwan wasn't listed. Also not all passports arecprvileged > enough > >>>> to just pop into another country with without a visa. So I wonder if > >>> they'd > >>>> even get a visa letter.. Maybe if they are physically in the host city > >>> ... > >>>> But if not ... > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 7:58 AM Tapani Tarvainen < > >>> tapani.tarvainen at effi.org> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I don't think the issue here is travel: Taiwanese passport is good > >>>>> enough to travel almost everywhere, it's just not accepted for IGF > >>>>> registration. > >>>>> > >>>>> Actually I find it curious that a passport is required at all for > IGF. > >>>>> After all quite a few people could travel to Berlin without one: not > >>>>> only all Germans but everybody in the Schengen zone as well. > >>>>> > >>>>> Although the guidelines only talk about "picture ID", even if the > >>>>> account creation form wants passport... has anybody tried to use > >>>>> another type of ID? > >>>>> > >>>>> (Yeah, getting rid of nation states would solve this problem. I fear > >>>>> we won't get it done in time for this year's IGF though.) > >>>>> > >>>>> Tapani > >>>>> > >>>>> On Sep 07 14:35, farzaneh badii (governance at lists.riseup.net) wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> E-citizenship doesnt give you a passport to travel. The only > >>> solution is > >>>>> to > >>>>>> get rid of the concept of nation states and treat people as people > >>> and > >>>>> not > >>>>>> clans. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 2:23 PM Bill Woodcock wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Estonian E-citizenships, perhaps? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Doesn’t solve the problem, but it’s a work-around. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -Bill > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Sep 6, 2019, at 01:52, Michael J. Oghia (via governance Mailing > >>>>> List) < > >>>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hi Ian, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks so much for this thoughtful response, and indeed, I sent it > >>> in > >>>>>>> frustration. I realise, however, that this issue goes way beyond > >>> the > >>>>> IGF. > >>>>>>> Moreover, since a member of the Chinese government is a member of > >>> the > >>>>> MAG, > >>>>>>> I seriously doubt the MAG would even be open to discussing it. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The point you raise about stateless individuals is an interesting > >>> one, > >>>>>>> though, as I don't know what the protocol is for that. Taiwan > >>> nationals > >>>>>>> clearly aren't stateless, though, so those are two separate points > >>>>>>> (regardless, I still recommend the IGF develop a procedure for > >>>>> including > >>>>>>> stateless individuals/groups). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> It seems this is an injustice that will have to pursue, and she can > >>>>> attend > >>>>>>> remotely if interested. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Best, > >>>>>>> -Michael > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM ian.peter at ianpeter.com < > >>>>>>> ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I wish there was an easy answer to this Michael. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> But as I understand it, we are dealing with a whole-of-UN > >>> problem, not > >>>>>>>> just an IGF one. For whatever historic reasons, and they are to do > >>>>> with > >>>>>>>> recognition of the Peoples Republic of China, Taiwan is not > >>>>> recognised by > >>>>>>>> the UN as a nation state - although they would like to be and > >>> have a > >>>>> few > >>>>>>>> allies pushing their cause. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I believe it goes back to 1971. China's attitude has been "The > >>> *United > >>>>>>>> Nations* is an international organization composed of sovereign > >>>>> states. > >>>>>>>> *Taiwan* as a province of China is completely *not* qualified and > >>> *has > >>>>>>>> no* right to participate in it. Due to the well-known reasons, the > >>>>>>>> *Taiwan* authorities illegally usurped China's *UN* seat for as > >>> long > >>>>> as > >>>>>>>> 22 years" (http://ae.china-embassy.org/eng/zt/twwt/t150866.htm) > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> But having said that - others might be able to provide more > >>>>> background - > >>>>>>>> since IGF is not a meeting of nation states, but also includes > >>> civil > >>>>>>>> society and other stakeholders, one would think there might be a > >>> way > >>>>>>>> around it. Yes, to register one needs a passport - maybe an ally > >>> of > >>>>> Taiwan > >>>>>>>> would be prepared to issue passports or acceptab;e documents for > >>>>> Taiwanese > >>>>>>>> citizens? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I don't know how we could get around this, just brainstorming. In > >>> an > >>>>>>>> ideal IGF, stateless people would have a voice and be able to > >>> attend, > >>>>>>>> subject of course to standard security clearances. Maybe MAG could > >>>>> explore > >>>>>>>> this? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Ian Peter > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ------ Original Message ------ > >>>>>>>> From: "Michael J. Oghia" > >>>>>>>> To: "IGC" > >>>>>>>> Sent: 6/09/2019 5:49:07 PM > >>>>>>>> Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi everyone, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I'd like to raise a serious concern I have regarding the IGF. A > >>>>> contact > >>>>>>>> of mine in Taiwan is having trouble registering for the IGF. She > >>>>> solely has > >>>>>>>> a Taiwanese passport, but the IGF, as a UN event, can only > >>> register > >>>>>>>> individuals who have a passport from a UN member state (of which > >>>>> Taiwan is > >>>>>>>> not a member). I checked with the IGF Secretariat, and > >>> unfortunately, > >>>>>>>> there's not much they can do about it. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I know that the politics surrounding China and Taiwan are > >>> contentious, > >>>>>>>> however, this essentially means that she (and anyone else) from > >>>>> Taiwan – > >>>>>>>> more than 23.5 million people – are essentially barred from > >>> attending > >>>>> the > >>>>>>>> IGF if they don't have another passport. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I find this *deeply problematic* and in violation of the > >>> fundamental > >>>>>>>> principles of the multi-stakeholder model, namely the fact that > >>> it's > >>>>> meant > >>>>>>>> to be inclusive and open to all. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Has anyone encountered this problem in the past, either in the IG > >>>>> sector > >>>>>>>> or another development sector? Does anyone have ideas for how it > >>> can > >>>>> be > >>>>>>>> resolved? I'm well aware this is not the first instance of a > >>> Taiwanese > >>>>>>>> national being excluded from participation in a global event, so > >>>>> perhaps > >>>>>>>> this is a moot point and no one can help. Still, it still strikes > >>> me > >>>>> as > >>>>>>>> incredibly unjust and unfair that regional politics would prevent > >>>>>>>> individuals from attending the IGF. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Best, > >>>>>>>> -Michael > >>>>>>>> __________________ > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Michael J. 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URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Wed Sep 11 09:52:16 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" (via governance Mailing List) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 14:52:16 +0100 Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF In-Reply-To: References: <20190909115736.GB12163@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> <20190909124826.GD12163@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> <20190910182644.GA16941@tarvainen.info> <3007bb3a-02bb-98fa-e43f-31b5d5d239a2@algorithmwatch.org> Message-ID: Love it Matthias and Cathleen. So happy to see new life, and new collaboration, really looking forward to Berlin. ❤❤❤ On Wed, 11 Sep 2019, 2:57 pm "Michael J. Oghia", < governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: > Hi Matthias and Cathleen (in BCC), > > Thank you so much for this offer and for you support, it's really > appreciated. In case you all decide to host side events as well, please do > let us know. It's always a pleasure to support the incredible work Mozilla > does! > > Best, > -Michael > > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 3:54 PM Matthias Spielkamp | AlgorithmWatch < > ms at algorithmwatch.org> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Mozilla's Cathleen Berger asked me to share this with you since she's >> not on this list: >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> And thanks Michael for flagging this. >> While this doesn't solve the underlying issue, I do want to offer up our >> Mozilla Berlin event space as a spill-over location -- so anyone who is >> in town for IGF, but either can't get to the venue or wasn't able to >> register would be welcome to watch the sessions from our space, we'll >> also looking into setting it up for remote participation with the IGF. >> I'm happy to share an event invite a couple of weeks ahead of IGF, so >> for those of you interested -- more coming in early November. >> >> Warmly, >> Cathleen >> >> All the best >> Matthias >> >> On 10.09.19 20:26, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: >> > Hi Farzaneh, >> > >> > I'm not disagreeing with you insofar as current situation is in >> practice. >> > >> > But I'm trying to look at it at another angle. Human-made rules are >> > not carved in stone, not even UN ones, and there's no explicit, >> > all-encompassing rule in the UN saying a passport is needed at all UN >> > events, even if it is currently common practice. Or if there is (I'd >> > love a pointer) exceptions have been made before. >> > >> > And, Lessig to the contrary notwithstanding, web forms are not law and >> > they can be worked around if there's a good case for it and enough >> > political will. For UN rules if any are political, not technical. >> > >> > Now I don't expect that'll happen in this case, certainly not this >> > year. But making an effort, even if a small one, might nudge things a >> > little in the right direction. And when everything is said and done, I >> > tend to think it'd be just a smidgen easier to make UN relax its rules >> > than your (admittedly preferable) solution of abolishing nation >> > states. :-) >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > Tapani >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Sep 09, 2019 at 09:17:17AM -0400, farzaneh badii ( >> governance at lists.riseup.net) wrote: >> >> >> >> Tapani >> >> >> >> Any person who holds a passport from a non-UN member state and do not >> have >> >> another passport (Chinese or American or European) cannot register and >> >> participate at the UN. Been a known problem. Yes you need to specify >> the >> >> country which has issued your passport. Taiwan is not among the >> countries >> >> listed to choose from because of the UN policy. If you can't register >> you >> >> can't go. And it's not only about Taiwan. And UN rules unfortunately >> >> overcome IGF rules. It's a UN conference, UN protocol. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 8:49 AM Tapani Tarvainen < >> tapani.tarvainen at effi.org> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Actually you do not need to identify your nationality, you only >> >>> need to specify the origin of your passport. >> >>> >> >>> And that could be challenged on the grounds that guidelines do not >> >>> insist on people having a passport. After all technical limitations on >> >>> the website can't override actual policy. I think they just might give >> >>> in on that if someone wanted to attend with a credible reason for not >> >>> having a passport but had another type of picture ID. >> >>> >> >>> They guidelines also state that the IGF welcomes "the participation of >> >>> all stakeholders..." and "participant status shall be provided to any >> >>> individual who fulfills the requirements" without any qualification as >> >>> to nationality that I can see. >> >>> >> >>> And Taiwanese can enter Germany with their own passport, without >> >>> even needing a visa. >> >>> >> >>> So if a Taiwanese had a picture ID issued by a state recognised by UN >> >>> they should be able to attend. I presume "recognized" there includes >> >>> observer countries like Palestine and Vatican (which, incidentally, >> >>> maintains diplomatic relations with Taiwan). >> >>> >> >>> Hmm. >> >>> >> >>> Tapani >> >>> >> >>> On Sep 09 08:11, farzaneh badii (farzaneh.badii at gmail.com) wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> You have to identify your nationality on the form to register. Last >> time >> >>> I >> >>>> checked Taiwan wasn't listed. Also not all passports arecprvileged >> enough >> >>>> to just pop into another country with without a visa. So I wonder if >> >>> they'd >> >>>> even get a visa letter.. Maybe if they are physically in the host >> city >> >>> ... >> >>>> But if not ... >> >>>> >> >>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 7:58 AM Tapani Tarvainen < >> >>> tapani.tarvainen at effi.org> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> I don't think the issue here is travel: Taiwanese passport is good >> >>>>> enough to travel almost everywhere, it's just not accepted for IGF >> >>>>> registration. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Actually I find it curious that a passport is required at all for >> IGF. >> >>>>> After all quite a few people could travel to Berlin without one: not >> >>>>> only all Germans but everybody in the Schengen zone as well. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Although the guidelines only talk about "picture ID", even if the >> >>>>> account creation form wants passport... has anybody tried to use >> >>>>> another type of ID? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> (Yeah, getting rid of nation states would solve this problem. I fear >> >>>>> we won't get it done in time for this year's IGF though.) >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Tapani >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Sep 07 14:35, farzaneh badii (governance at lists.riseup.net) >> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> E-citizenship doesnt give you a passport to travel. The only >> >>> solution is >> >>>>> to >> >>>>>> get rid of the concept of nation states and treat people as people >> >>> and >> >>>>> not >> >>>>>> clans. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 2:23 PM Bill Woodcock >> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Estonian E-citizenships, perhaps? >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Doesn’t solve the problem, but it’s a work-around. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> -Bill >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Sep 6, 2019, at 01:52, Michael J. Oghia (via governance Mailing >> >>>>> List) < >> >>>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Hi Ian, >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Thanks so much for this thoughtful response, and indeed, I sent it >> >>> in >> >>>>>>> frustration. I realise, however, that this issue goes way beyond >> >>> the >> >>>>> IGF. >> >>>>>>> Moreover, since a member of the Chinese government is a member of >> >>> the >> >>>>> MAG, >> >>>>>>> I seriously doubt the MAG would even be open to discussing it. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> The point you raise about stateless individuals is an interesting >> >>> one, >> >>>>>>> though, as I don't know what the protocol is for that. Taiwan >> >>> nationals >> >>>>>>> clearly aren't stateless, though, so those are two separate points >> >>>>>>> (regardless, I still recommend the IGF develop a procedure for >> >>>>> including >> >>>>>>> stateless individuals/groups). >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> It seems this is an injustice that will have to pursue, and she >> can >> >>>>> attend >> >>>>>>> remotely if interested. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Best, >> >>>>>>> -Michael >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM ian.peter at ianpeter.com < >> >>>>>>> ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I wish there was an easy answer to this Michael. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> But as I understand it, we are dealing with a whole-of-UN >> >>> problem, not >> >>>>>>>> just an IGF one. For whatever historic reasons, and they are to >> do >> >>>>> with >> >>>>>>>> recognition of the Peoples Republic of China, Taiwan is not >> >>>>> recognised by >> >>>>>>>> the UN as a nation state - although they would like to be and >> >>> have a >> >>>>> few >> >>>>>>>> allies pushing their cause. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I believe it goes back to 1971. China's attitude has been "The >> >>> *United >> >>>>>>>> Nations* is an international organization composed of sovereign >> >>>>> states. >> >>>>>>>> *Taiwan* as a province of China is completely *not* qualified and >> >>> *has >> >>>>>>>> no* right to participate in it. Due to the well-known reasons, >> the >> >>>>>>>> *Taiwan* authorities illegally usurped China's *UN* seat for as >> >>> long >> >>>>> as >> >>>>>>>> 22 years" (http://ae.china-embassy.org/eng/zt/twwt/t150866.htm) >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> But having said that - others might be able to provide more >> >>>>> background - >> >>>>>>>> since IGF is not a meeting of nation states, but also includes >> >>> civil >> >>>>>>>> society and other stakeholders, one would think there might be a >> >>> way >> >>>>>>>> around it. Yes, to register one needs a passport - maybe an ally >> >>> of >> >>>>> Taiwan >> >>>>>>>> would be prepared to issue passports or acceptab;e documents for >> >>>>> Taiwanese >> >>>>>>>> citizens? >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I don't know how we could get around this, just brainstorming. In >> >>> an >> >>>>>>>> ideal IGF, stateless people would have a voice and be able to >> >>> attend, >> >>>>>>>> subject of course to standard security clearances. Maybe MAG >> could >> >>>>> explore >> >>>>>>>> this? >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Ian Peter >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >> >>>>>>>> From: "Michael J. Oghia" >> >>>>>>>> To: "IGC" >> >>>>>>>> Sent: 6/09/2019 5:49:07 PM >> >>>>>>>> Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Hi everyone, >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I'd like to raise a serious concern I have regarding the IGF. A >> >>>>> contact >> >>>>>>>> of mine in Taiwan is having trouble registering for the IGF. She >> >>>>> solely has >> >>>>>>>> a Taiwanese passport, but the IGF, as a UN event, can only >> >>> register >> >>>>>>>> individuals who have a passport from a UN member state (of which >> >>>>> Taiwan is >> >>>>>>>> not a member). I checked with the IGF Secretariat, and >> >>> unfortunately, >> >>>>>>>> there's not much they can do about it. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I know that the politics surrounding China and Taiwan are >> >>> contentious, >> >>>>>>>> however, this essentially means that she (and anyone else) from >> >>>>> Taiwan – >> >>>>>>>> more than 23.5 million people – are essentially barred from >> >>> attending >> >>>>> the >> >>>>>>>> IGF if they don't have another passport. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I find this *deeply problematic* and in violation of the >> >>> fundamental >> >>>>>>>> principles of the multi-stakeholder model, namely the fact that >> >>> it's >> >>>>> meant >> >>>>>>>> to be inclusive and open to all. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Has anyone encountered this problem in the past, either in the IG >> >>>>> sector >> >>>>>>>> or another development sector? Does anyone have ideas for how it >> >>> can >> >>>>> be >> >>>>>>>> resolved? I'm well aware this is not the first instance of a >> >>> Taiwanese >> >>>>>>>> national being excluded from participation in a global event, so >> >>>>> perhaps >> >>>>>>>> this is a moot point and no one can help. Still, it still strikes >> >>> me >> >>>>> as >> >>>>>>>> incredibly unjust and unfair that regional politics would prevent >> >>>>>>>> individuals from attending the IGF. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Best, >> >>>>>>>> -Michael >> >>>>>>>> __________________ >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Michael J. 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It's an event open to all civil society, and I would suggest that members of IGC should be actively involved in shaping its agenda. It's been moved to from to 13.30 - 15.30 pm following a request from the IGF Secretariat. When a few of us met on the sidelines of RightsCon earlier this year we suggested that the event could focus on sharing updates on key global processes and perhaps planning for how to input into them e.g: the High Level Panel, the UN First Committee processes on cyber and any others. And we could also discuss any matters pertaining to the IGC. As such, I would be grateful if you could share your views on the following - What topics and/or forums should we discuss at the civil society pre-event? - Would you like to discuss any topics related to IGC specifically? - How should we discuss these topics (presentations, or just open discussions) bearing in mind we have only 2 hours? - What outcome would you like to see from the pre-event? - Would you like to be involved in planning the event (this will require a dedication of a few hours over the next two months, I can't say how much) It would also be great if you could let me know if you're planning to be there. I know this is dependent on funding for many of us but if you can give an indication that would be great. Looking forward to hearing from you! 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Regards Remmy On Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 12:57 AM Sheetal Kumar wrote: > Dear all, > > I'm getting in touch here about planning one of the civil society > pre-events to the IGF session. It's called "Civil society coordination > meeting (Global Partners Digital)" in the schedule but it is *not *a GPD > event. I just applied for it, that's all. It's an event open to all civil > society, and I would suggest that members of IGC should be actively > involved in shaping its agenda. It's been moved to from to 13.30 - 15.30 > pm following a request from the IGF Secretariat. > > When a few of us met on the sidelines of RightsCon earlier this year we > suggested that the event could focus on sharing updates on key global > processes and perhaps planning for how to input into them e.g: the High > Level Panel, the UN First Committee processes on cyber and any others. And > we could also discuss any matters pertaining to the IGC. > > As such, I would be grateful if you could share your views on the > following > > - What topics and/or forums should we discuss at the civil society > pre-event? > - Would you like to discuss any topics related to IGC specifically? > - How should we discuss these topics (presentations, or just open > discussions) bearing in mind we have only 2 hours? > - What outcome would you like to see from the pre-event? > - Would you like to be involved in planning the event (this will require a > dedication of a few hours over the next two months, I can't say how much) > > It would also be great if you could let me know if you're planning to be > there. I know this is dependent on funding for many of us but if you can > give an indication that would be great. > > Looking forward to hearing from you! > > Best > Sheetal > -- > > > *Sheetal Kumar* > Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL > Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL > T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514 | > PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603 > DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31| > > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ian.peter at ianpeter.com Thu Sep 5 15:57:39 2019 From: ian.peter at ianpeter.com (ian.peter at ianpeter.com) Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2019 19:57:39 +0000 Subject: [governance] Co coordinator elections - here are the candidates Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, Nominations for the Co coordinator positions have now closed. There were four nominations during the period, but one (Olivier MJ Crepin LeBlond) declined. 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URL: From joly at punkcast.com Sat Sep 14 11:42:09 2019 From: joly at punkcast.com (Joly MacFie) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:42:09 -0400 Subject: [governance] WEBCAST SAT/SUN: Fifth Annual Legal Hackers International Summit In-Reply-To: <151329629.11328.0@wordpress.com> References: <151329629.11328.0@wordpress.com> Message-ID: Internet Society Trustee Mike Godwin will be giving a keynote (Sunday 9am ET - 13:00 UTC). For a captioned version of the livestream, check isoc.live twitter . ISOC-NY has long had a close relationship with the local (founding) branch of Legal Hackers. Wherever you are in the world you may well find there is a chapter/group near you - see https://legalhackers.org/people/ . ISOC Live posted: "On Saturday/Sunday 14-15 September 2019 the Fifth Annual Legal Hackers International Summit is taking place at Brooklyn Law School. 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URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Sun Sep 15 05:37:47 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Amali De Silva (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2019 09:37:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [governance] IGF 2019 Civil society pre-event: planning and preparation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <434332890.1489738.1568540267110@mail.yahoo.com> Please include the teaching of ethics in a globally connected  society … right thought for right action is never out of fashion , right planning for best action is good risk management … right attitude and compassion  for human care …. Amali De SIlva-Mitchell      On ‎Friday‎, ‎September‎ ‎13‎, ‎2019‎ ‎08‎:‎38‎:‎41‎ ‎AM‎ ‎PDT, Remmy Nweke wrote: Hi SheetalThis is great thought.Although not sure of attending yet, I will like to be part of the planning team.Will like also to see issues on "Stereotyping of Cyber Crime and Effects on Developing Economies and Role of Civil Society."RegardsRemmy On Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 12:57 AM Sheetal Kumar wrote: Dear all, I'm getting in touch here about planning one of the civil society pre-events to the IGF session. It's called "Civil society coordination meeting (Global Partners Digital)" in the schedule but it is not a GPD event. I just applied for it, that's all. It's an event open to all civil society, and I would suggest that members of IGC should be actively involved in shaping its agenda. It's been moved to from to 13.30 - 15.30 pm following a request from the IGF Secretariat.  When a few of us met on the sidelines of RightsCon earlier this year we suggested that the event could focus on sharing updates on key global processes and perhaps planning for how to input into them e.g: the High Level Panel, the UN First Committee processes on cyber and any others. And we could also discuss any matters pertaining to the IGC. As such, I would be grateful if you could share your views on the following - What topics and/or forums should we discuss at the civil society pre-event? - Would you like to discuss any topics related to IGC specifically? - How should we discuss these topics (presentations, or just open discussions) bearing in mind we have only 2 hours? - What outcome would you like to see from the pre-event? - Would you like to be involved in planning the event (this will require a dedication of a few hours over the next two months, I can't say how much) It would also be great if you could let me know if you're planning to be there. I know this is dependent on funding for many of us but if you can give an indication that would be great. Looking forward to hearing from you! 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URL: From anriette at apc.org Mon Sep 16 05:36:01 2019 From: anriette at apc.org (Anriette Esterhuysen) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 11:36:01 +0200 Subject: [governance] Update on the IGF2019 BPFs Message-ID: <7123aa2d-44ca-ea07-3d42-3a7dc07af3ca@apc.org> http://www.circleid.com/posts/20190913_igf_best_practice_forums_opportunity_to_bring_experience_to_debate/ -- From joly at punkcast.com Wed Sep 18 13:53:51 2019 From: joly at punkcast.com (Joly MacFie) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2019 13:53:51 -0400 Subject: [governance] WEBCAST TODAY: BroadbandUSA: Measuring the Economic Impact of Broadband Message-ID: Included in today's speakers are Roberto Gallardo & Brian Whitacre whose recent analysis of FCC's Form 477 data revealed "digital deserts' - five million US residents in 2.2 million housing units had access to no broadband providers whatsoever. ISOC Live posted: "On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 2pm EDT (18:00 UTC) the U.S. National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) resumes its monthly Practical Broadband Conversations series after a summer break. September's topic is 'Measuring the Econo" [image: livestream] On Wednesday, *September 18, 2019* at *2pm EDT* (18:00 UTC) the U.S. *National Telecommunications and Information Administration * (NTIA) resumes its monthly *Practical Broadband Conversations* series after a summer break. September's topic is *'Measuring the Economic Impact of Broadband'* The digital economy accounted for 6.9 percent of the U.S. gross domestic product, or $1.35 trillion, according to a recent survey by the Department of Commerce. Understanding how to measure and communicate the benefits of broadband is critical to building support for efforts to expand connectivity and use. Speakers: *Roberto Gallardo*, Assistant Director - Center for Regional Development, Purdue University; *Brian Whitacre*, Professor, Oklahoma State University; *Alison Grant*, Research Assistant and Instructor, Department of Agriculture, Purdue University. Moderator: *Katherine Bates*, Manager of State and Local Partnerships, BroadbandUSA. The webinar will be simulcast on the *Internet Society Livestream Channel *. *WEBINAR: https://broadbandusa.ntia.doc.gov/webinar_190918 * *LIVESTREAM: https://livestream.com/internetsociety/broadbandusa1909 * *TWITTER: #BroadbandUSA https://priv.sh/KE4DrMh * *Permalink* https://isoc.live/11340/ - -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ian.peter at ianpeter.com Fri Sep 20 00:26:01 2019 From: ian.peter at ianpeter.com (Ian Peter) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2019 04:26:01 +0000 Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Relections - Reminder - Votes Closing in a few days Message-ID: This is just a quick reminder for those who haven't voted yet in the IGC Coordinator elections - You have probably received an automatic reminder in the last few days anyway, but voting does close on September 23, so there are only a few days left. If you have voted, and your vote has been recorded, you will have received an acknowledgement email thanking you for the vote. If for any reason you did not receive the acknowledgement email, but think you have voted, you can always vote again using the original link to be certain – it will just override your original vote and you will receive the acknowledgement letter. If you have not received the original email inviting you to vote, and if you have been a list member for more than 2 months and think that you should have received one, please contact the returning officers (returningofficers at igcaucus.org ) with your email details and we will look into it. If you are having any other problem, please contact us ASAP so that we can sort out any issues before voting closes on September 23. Ian Peter and Tapani Tarvainen Returning Officers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Fri Sep 20 04:14:51 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Chaitanya Dhareshwar (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2019 13:44:51 +0530 Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Relections - Reminder - Votes Closing in a few days In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Ian, any hint to what % of the eligible member base has voted to-date in the current election? Best, *Chaitanya Dhareshwar* Linkedin | Blog | *Book Me* | Skype: chaitanyabd Mobile: +91.9820760253 On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 9:56 AM Ian Peter wrote: > This is just a quick reminder for those who haven't voted yet in the IGC > Coordinator elections - > > You have probably received an automatic reminder in the last few days > anyway, but voting does close on September 23, so there are only a few days > left. > > If you have voted, and your vote has been recorded, you will have received > an acknowledgement email thanking you for the vote. If for any reason you > did not receive the acknowledgement email, but think you have voted, you > can always vote again using the original link to be certain – it will just > override your original vote and you will receive the acknowledgement letter. > > If you have not received the original email inviting you to vote, and if > you have been a list member for more than 2 months and think that you > should have received one, please contact the returning officers ( > returningofficers at igcaucus.org ) with > your email details and we will look into it. If you are having any other > problem, please contact us ASAP so that we can sort out any issues before > voting closes on September 23. > > > Ian Peter and Tapani Tarvainen > > Returning Officers > > > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ian.peter at ianpeter.com Fri Sep 20 04:48:57 2019 From: ian.peter at ianpeter.com (Ian Peter) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2019 08:48:57 +0000 Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Relections - Reminder - Votes Closing in a few days In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Chaitanya, The eligible member base is established during the election process each year, as people leave and new potential members come on board. But I can tell you that the number of voters already exceeds those of the last election in which a vote took place, which was 2016. Ian Peter ------ Original Message ------ From: "Chaitanya Dhareshwar" To: "Ian Peter" Cc: "governance" Sent: 20/09/2019 6:14:51 PM Subject: Re: [governance] IGC Coordinator Relections - Reminder - Votes Closing in a few days >Hi Ian, any hint to what % of the eligible member base has voted >to-date in the current election? > >Best, > >Chaitanya Dhareshwar > >Linkedin | Blog >| Book Me | >Skype: chaitanyabd >Mobile: +91.9820760253 > > >On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 9:56 AM Ian Peter >wrote: >>This is just a quick reminder for those who haven't voted yet in the >>IGC Coordinator elections - >> >>You have probably received an automatic reminder in the last few days >>anyway, but voting does close on September 23, so there are only a few >>days left. >> >>If you have voted, and your vote has been recorded, you will have >>received an acknowledgement email thanking you for the vote. If for >>any reason you did not receive the acknowledgement email, but think >>you have voted, you can always vote again using the original link to >>be certain – it will just override your original vote and you will >>receive the acknowledgement letter. >> >>If you have not received the original email inviting you to vote, and >>if you have been a list member for more than 2 months and think that >>you should have received one, please contact the returning officers >>(returningofficers at igcaucus.org >>) with your email details and >>we will look into it. If you are having any other problem, please >>contact us ASAP so that we can sort out any issues before voting >>closes on September 23. >> >> >> >>Ian Peter and Tapani Tarvainen >> >>Returning Officers >> >> >> >> >> >>--- >>To unsubscribe: >>List help: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ilishebo,* *Lusaka, Zambia* *Digital Forensic Analyst -* Zambia Police Service* | * *UN IGF MAG Member ( 2017 -19) | AU IGF MAG Member (2019 - 20)* *ICANN* GAC PSWG Member * | **ICANN *Fellow/Mentor |* Alumni - *African School on Internet Governance (2014) Work Email : * ilishebomichael at zambiapolice.org.zm * Contact* : +260965361255* *Social Media Handles* *Twitter: @ilishebo* *Skype: michael.ilishebo* *"walk a mile,for a while,with a smile"* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From parminder at itforchange.net Fri Sep 20 05:06:30 2019 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2019 14:36:30 +0530 Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Relections - Reminder - Votes Closing in a few days In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: i prefer things about elections are not spoken or discussed when elections are on, since neutrality of election process should be maximally -- even paranoid-ly --  interpreted, as normally done with democratic elections -- silence on most counts is best when people decide their votes ...   parminder  On 20/09/19 1:44 PM, Chaitanya Dhareshwar (via governance Mailing List) wrote: > Hi Ian, any hint to what % of the eligible member base has voted > to-date in the current election? > > Best, > > *Chaitanya Dhareshwar* > ** > Linkedin | Blog > | *Book Me* > | Skype: chaitanyabd > Mobile: +91.9820760253 > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 9:56 AM Ian Peter > wrote: > > This is just a quick reminder for those who haven't voted yet in > the IGC Coordinator elections - > > You have probably received an automatic reminder in the last few > days anyway, but voting does close on September 23, so there are > only a few days left. > > If you have voted, and your vote has been recorded, you will have > received an acknowledgement email thanking you for the vote. If > for any reason you did not receive the acknowledgement email, but > think you have voted, you can always vote again using the original > link to be certain – it will just override your original vote and > you will receive the acknowledgement letter. > > If you have not received the original email inviting you to vote, > and if you have been a list member for more than 2 months and > think that you should have received one, please contact the > returning officers (returningofficers at igcaucus.org > ) with your email details > and we will look into it. If you are having any other problem, > please contact us ASAP so that we can sort out any issues before > voting closes on September 23. > > > Ian Peter and Tapani Tarvainen > > Returning Officers > > > > --- > To unsubscribe: > > List help: > > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From parminder at itforchange.net Fri Sep 20 05:08:09 2019 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2019 14:38:09 +0530 Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Relections - Reminder - Votes Closing in a few days In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: but ok, voting percentage is normally officially revealed even as elections are in progress -- and so my caution may not apply to this particular fact ... On 20/09/19 2:36 PM, parminder wrote: > > i prefer things about elections are not spoken or discussed when > elections are on, since neutrality of election process should be > maximally -- even paranoid-ly --  interpreted, as normally done with > democratic elections -- silence on most counts is best when people > decide their votes ...   parminder  > > On 20/09/19 1:44 PM, Chaitanya Dhareshwar (via governance Mailing > List) wrote: >> Hi Ian, any hint to what % of the eligible member base has voted >> to-date in the current election? >> >> Best, >> >> *Chaitanya Dhareshwar* >> ** >> Linkedin | Blog >> | *Book Me* >> | Skype: chaitanyabd >> Mobile: +91.9820760253 >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 9:56 AM Ian Peter > > wrote: >> >> This is just a quick reminder for those who haven't voted yet in >> the IGC Coordinator elections - >> >> You have probably received an automatic reminder in the last few >> days anyway, but voting does close on September 23, so there are >> only a few days left. >> >> If you have voted, and your vote has been recorded, you will have >> received an acknowledgement email thanking you for the vote. If >> for any reason you did not receive the acknowledgement email, but >> think you have voted, you can always vote again using the >> original link to be certain – it will just override your original >> vote and you will receive the acknowledgement letter. >> >> If you have not received the original email inviting you to vote, >> and if you have been a list member for more than 2 months and >> think that you should have received one, please contact the >> returning officers (returningofficers at igcaucus.org >> ) with your email details >> and we will look into it. If you are having any other problem, >> please contact us ASAP so that we can sort out any issues before >> voting closes on September 23. >> >> >> Ian Peter and Tapani Tarvainen >> >> Returning Officers >> >> >> >> --- >> To unsubscribe: > > >> List help: >> >> >> --- >> To unsubscribe: >> List help: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Thu Sep 5 16:02:16 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Bruna Martins dos Santos (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 17:02:16 -0300 Subject: [governance] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Michael, First of all I would like to thank you for the nomination! Its been a pleasure to know and work with you for these past years. Secondly, I would like to accept the nomination to run for one of the Co-coordinators. I am very fond of the work we've been doing in order to revive IGC and I would like to continue contributing to that. In that sense I will submit my statement to the list soon. Best Regards, bruna Le mer. 28 août 2019 à 09:56, "Michael J. Oghia" < governance at lists.riseup.net> a écrit : > Thank you for this Ian, I look forward to hearing from Bruna, as well as > the other nominees to see if they accept. > > Best, > -Michael > > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 10:36 AM ian.peter at ianpeter.com < > ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote: > >> Hi Michael, >> >> Bruna as the standing co ordinator announced the election and call for >> nominations. That is normal practice. It is perfecly proper for her to >> serve a second term if she accepts your nomination, and if that is the >> will of the voters. >> >> From this point on the conduct of the election and resulting announcement >> is in the hands of the two returning officers, Tapani Tarvainen and myself, >> so there is no conflict of interest. >> >> Just making sure that is clear. >> >> >> Ian Peter >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Michael J. Oghia" >> To: "CWCS" >> Sent: 28/08/2019 6:25:39 PM >> Subject: Re: [governance] Nomination >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> It was brought to my attention that Bruna is currently overseeing the >> election, so I'm not sure if her nomination can stand without a proper >> election committee or some kind of policy. >> >> I guess the first and simplest thing to ask is: Bruna, are you interested >> in accepting the nomination? If so, we can discuss further. If not, it's a >> moot point. >> >> Best, >> -Michael >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 6:50 AM Michael J. Oghia >> wrote: >> >>> Bruna Santos >>> >>> Country of residence: Brazil >>> >>> Country of origin: Brazil >>> >>> I'd like to I nominate Bruna Santos to be one of two co-coordinators for >>> the Internet Governance Caucus (IGC). Ever since I met Bruna at ICANN 58 in >>> Copenhagen, I've witnessed her dedication to and engagement in civil >>> society coordination throughout the IG space. From her leadership within >>> the NCUC, to helping to co-organise various civil society meetings (such as >>> at IGF 2018) and assisting with getting the IGC/Best Bits merger through, I >>> am confident that Bruna will do well in the post if elected. >>> >>> Best, >>> -Michael Oghia >>> >>> --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -- *Bruna Martins dos Santos * Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos @boomartins -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tapani.tarvainen at effi.org Fri Sep 20 05:14:14 2019 From: tapani.tarvainen at effi.org (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2019 12:14:14 +0300 Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Relections - Reminder - Votes Closing in a few days In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20190920091414.GD5636@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> Dear Michael, IGC Charter is a bit unclear about this but practice has long been that it is perfectly fine to be on the mailing list without being a (voting) member of the IGC. It might be useful to clarify that and the terminology, such people could be called "observers" or something like that, but I'll leave it to our future co-coordinators to deal with. In any case we have now no plans purge non-voters from the list. Regards, Tapani On Sep 20 09:58, Michael ILISHEBO (governance at lists.riseup.net) wrote: > Dear Ian, > > As a friend of the Civil Society and one from Government, I am ineligible > to VOTE but would like to remain a member of this mailing list. > > > > > -- > > > *Michael L. Ilishebo,* > > *Lusaka, Zambia* > *Digital Forensic Analyst -* Zambia Police Service* | * > *UN IGF MAG Member ( 2017 -19) | AU IGF MAG Member (2019 - 20)* > *ICANN* GAC PSWG Member * | **ICANN *Fellow/Mentor |* Alumni - *African > School on Internet Governance (2014) > Work Email : > * ilishebomichael at zambiapolice.org.zm * > Contact* : +260965361255* > > > > *Social Media Handles* > > *Twitter: @ilishebo* > > *Skype: michael.ilishebo* > > > > > *"walk a mile,for a while,with a smile"* From ian.peter at ianpeter.com Fri Sep 20 05:08:00 2019 From: ian.peter at ianpeter.com (Ian Peter) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2019 09:08:00 +0000 Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Relections - Reminder - Votes Closing in a few days In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That is not a problem, Michael - nobody will be removed from the mailing list. Many people on the mailing list are not eligible to vote or become IGC members, but all are very welcome to stay on list. Ian Peter ------ Original Message ------ From: "Michael ILISHEBO" To: "Ian Peter" Cc: "chaitanyabd at gmail.com" ; "governance" Sent: 20/09/2019 6:58:46 PM Subject: Re: [governance] IGC Coordinator Relections - Reminder - Votes Closing in a few days >Dear Ian, > >As a friend of the Civil Society and one from Government, I am >ineligible to VOTE but would like to remain a member of this mailing >list. > > > > >-- > >Michael L. Ilishebo, >Lusaka, Zambia > >Digital Forensic Analyst - Zambia Police Service | UN IGF MAG Member ( >2017 -19) | AU IGF MAG Member (2019 - 20) >ICANN GAC PSWG Member | ICANN Fellow/Mentor | Alumni - African >School on Internet Governance (2014) >Work Email :ilishebomichael at zambiapolice.org.zm >Contact : +260965361255 > > >Social Media Handles >Twitter: @ilishebo >Skype: michael.ilishebo > > > > >"walk a mile,for a while,with a smile" > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Chaque année, le comité d’organisation choisi un thème central autour duquel s’articule le programme du Forum.Pour cette nouvelle édition, le Bénin DNS Forum orientera ses activités et réflexions autour des : *« Technologies Internet et Perspectives économiques pour l’atteinte des Objectifs de Développement Durable (ODD) au Bénin »* Parmi les nombreuses activités que nous diffuserons en direct sur les forums publics à Parakou et la réunion des multi acteurs et le forum public à Cotonou. *Forum public de Parakou: mardi 17 septembre 9h* *Rencontre multi acteurs: jeudi 19 septembre 9h* *Forum public de Cotonou: samedi 21 septembre 9h* *LIVESTREAM: https://livestream.com/internetsociety2/bdf19 PROGRAMME: https://dnsforum.bj/programme2019/ SPEAKERS: https://dnsforum.bj/speakers2019/ TWITTER: #BeninDNS http://bit.ly/benindns * *Permalink* https://isoc.live/11356/ - -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org Sun Sep 22 03:16:08 2019 From: JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org (=?UTF-8?Q?Jean_F=2E_Qu=C3=A9ralt?=) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2019 15:16:08 +0800 Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Relections - Reminder - Votes Closing in a few days In-Reply-To: <20190920091414.GD5636@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> References: <20190920091414.GD5636@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> Message-ID: Dear Tapani, Your message raised doubts in me. >From my understanding from previous messages on this subject, eligible voters had a number of conditions to fulfil; one of them being the time they've joined the list. That makes the case that, inevitably, you'll have members of the list that can't be voters. I am one of those as I joined the list during the BB merging, less than 2 months ago. So I am a member of the list and can't (won't) vote. I hear you when you say "no plans to purge non-voters"... the question that comes to my mind is how to avoid that status to being with since all newcomers will have that 2-months "waiting/vetting" time before being able to vote? Anything I am missing? Best, Jean PS: Also read Ian's message on the matter. Just thinking the "limbo status" should be identified and addressed if necessary. On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 5:14 PM Tapani Tarvainen wrote: > Dear Michael, > > IGC Charter is a bit unclear about this but practice has long been > that it is perfectly fine to be on the mailing list without being a > (voting) member of the IGC. > > It might be useful to clarify that and the terminology, such people > could be called "observers" or something like that, but I'll leave it > to our future co-coordinators to deal with. > > In any case we have now no plans purge non-voters from the list. > > Regards, > > Tapani > > > On Sep 20 09:58, Michael ILISHEBO (governance at lists.riseup.net) wrote: > > > Dear Ian, > > > > As a friend of the Civil Society and one from Government, I am ineligible > > to VOTE but would like to remain a member of this mailing list. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > *Michael L. Ilishebo,* > > > > *Lusaka, Zambia* > > *Digital Forensic Analyst -* Zambia Police Service* | * > > *UN IGF MAG Member ( 2017 -19) | AU IGF MAG Member (2019 - 20)* > > *ICANN* GAC PSWG Member * | **ICANN *Fellow/Mentor |* Alumni - *African > > School on Internet Governance (2014) > > Work Email : > > * ilishebomichael at zambiapolice.org.zm < > ilishebomichael at zambiapolice.org.zm>* > > Contact* : +260965361255* > > > > > > > > *Social Media Handles* > > > > *Twitter: @ilishebo* > > > > *Skype: michael.ilishebo* > > > > > > > > > > *"walk a mile,for a while,with a smile"* > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tapani.tarvainen at effi.org Sun Sep 22 05:10:07 2019 From: tapani.tarvainen at effi.org (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2019 12:10:07 +0300 Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Relections - Reminder - Votes Closing in a few days In-Reply-To: References: <20190920091414.GD5636@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> Message-ID: <20190922091007.GA6487@tarvainen.info> Hi Jean, My apologies for being unclear. When I said we have no such plans I meant literally just that - I did not intend to imply that anything like that had been considered or should or even could be planned. I was just replying to Michael who seemed to think it might be possible. Indeed what you correctly observe about new members makes it clear that such a purge would not be possible. In any case I am not in any position to remove anyone from the list even if wanted to. I'm now only concerned with the elections and apart from recording who voted and who didn't I'm not going to make any distinctions between list members. But as your and Michael's questions indicate, it might be good if our charter was clearer on this point, distinguishing between new members (who are planning to vote as soon as they can) and observers (who can't or don't want to vote). But that's just a note for a possible future charter revision. I hope this clarifies the situation. Best, Tapani On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 03:16:08PM +0800, Jean F. Quéralt (JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org) wrote: > > Dear Tapani, > > Your message raised doubts in me. > > >From my understanding from previous messages on this > subject, eligible voters had a number of conditions to fulfil; one of them > being the time they've joined the list. > That makes the case that, inevitably, you'll have members of the list that > can't be voters. I am one of those as I joined the list during the BB > merging, less than 2 months ago. So I am a member of the list and can't > (won't) vote. > > I hear you when you say "no plans to purge non-voters"... the question that > comes to my mind is how to avoid that status to being with since all > newcomers will have that 2-months "waiting/vetting" time before being able > to vote? > Anything I am missing? > > Best, > Jean > > PS: Also read Ian's message on the matter. Just thinking the "limbo status" > should be identified and addressed if necessary. > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 5:14 PM Tapani Tarvainen > wrote: > > > Dear Michael, > > > > IGC Charter is a bit unclear about this but practice has long been > > that it is perfectly fine to be on the mailing list without being a > > (voting) member of the IGC. > > > > It might be useful to clarify that and the terminology, such people > > could be called "observers" or something like that, but I'll leave it > > to our future co-coordinators to deal with. > > > > In any case we have now no plans purge non-voters from the list. > > > > Regards, > > > > Tapani > > > > > > On Sep 20 09:58, Michael ILISHEBO (governance at lists.riseup.net) wrote: > > > > > Dear Ian, > > > > > > As a friend of the Civil Society and one from Government, I am ineligible > > > to VOTE but would like to remain a member of this mailing list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > *Michael L. Ilishebo,* > > > > > > *Lusaka, Zambia* > > > *Digital Forensic Analyst -* Zambia Police Service* | * > > > *UN IGF MAG Member ( 2017 -19) | AU IGF MAG Member (2019 - 20)* > > > *ICANN* GAC PSWG Member * | **ICANN *Fellow/Mentor |* Alumni - *African > > > School on Internet Governance (2014) > > > Work Email : > > > * ilishebomichael at zambiapolice.org.zm < > > ilishebomichael at zambiapolice.org.zm>* > > > Contact* : +260965361255* > > > > > > > > > > > > *Social Media Handles* > > > > > > *Twitter: @ilishebo* > > > > > > *Skype: michael.ilishebo* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *"walk a mile,for a while,with a smile"* > > --- > > To unsubscribe: > > List help: > > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: -- Tapani Tarvainen From JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org Sun Sep 22 07:45:30 2019 From: JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org (=?UTF-8?Q?Jean_F=2E_Qu=C3=A9ralt?=) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2019 19:45:30 +0800 Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Relections - Reminder - Votes Closing in a few days In-Reply-To: <20190922091007.GA6487@tarvainen.info> References: <20190920091414.GD5636@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> <20190922091007.GA6487@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: Hi all. Just for the interest of clarification I didn't feel there was any intention to "purge" per se. I was more trying to point out to that "loophole" (for lack of a better word on my part - English not being my first language) as at least all those who joined from BB recently would be in that particular situation. As you mention, it would be a good conversation to look into during a Charter revision. All is good :-) Best, Jean On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 5:11 PM Tapani Tarvainen wrote: > Hi Jean, > > My apologies for being unclear. > > When I said we have no such plans I meant literally just that - I did > not intend to imply that anything like that had been considered or > should or even could be planned. I was just replying to Michael who > seemed to think it might be possible. Indeed what you correctly > observe about new members makes it clear that such a purge would not > be possible. > > In any case I am not in any position to remove anyone from the list > even if wanted to. I'm now only concerned with the elections and apart > from recording who voted and who didn't I'm not going to make any > distinctions between list members. > > But as your and Michael's questions indicate, it might be good if our > charter was clearer on this point, distinguishing between new members > (who are planning to vote as soon as they can) and observers (who can't > or don't want to vote). But that's just a note for a possible future > charter revision. > > I hope this clarifies the situation. > > Best, > > Tapani > > On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 03:16:08PM +0800, Jean F. Quéralt ( > JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org) wrote: > > > > Dear Tapani, > > > > Your message raised doubts in me. > > > > >From my understanding from previous messages on this > > subject, eligible voters had a number of conditions to fulfil; one of > them > > being the time they've joined the list. > > That makes the case that, inevitably, you'll have members of the list > that > > can't be voters. I am one of those as I joined the list during the BB > > merging, less than 2 months ago. So I am a member of the list and can't > > (won't) vote. > > > > I hear you when you say "no plans to purge non-voters"... the question > that > > comes to my mind is how to avoid that status to being with since all > > newcomers will have that 2-months "waiting/vetting" time before being > able > > to vote? > > Anything I am missing? > > > > Best, > > Jean > > > > PS: Also read Ian's message on the matter. Just thinking the "limbo > status" > > should be identified and addressed if necessary. > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 5:14 PM Tapani Tarvainen < > tapani.tarvainen at effi.org> > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Michael, > > > > > > IGC Charter is a bit unclear about this but practice has long been > > > that it is perfectly fine to be on the mailing list without being a > > > (voting) member of the IGC. > > > > > > It might be useful to clarify that and the terminology, such people > > > could be called "observers" or something like that, but I'll leave it > > > to our future co-coordinators to deal with. > > > > > > In any case we have now no plans purge non-voters from the list. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tapani > > > > > > > > > On Sep 20 09:58, Michael ILISHEBO (governance at lists.riseup.net) wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Ian, > > > > > > > > As a friend of the Civil Society and one from Government, I am > ineligible > > > > to VOTE but would like to remain a member of this mailing list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > *Michael L. Ilishebo,* > > > > > > > > *Lusaka, Zambia* > > > > *Digital Forensic Analyst -* Zambia Police Service* | * > > > > *UN IGF MAG Member ( 2017 -19) | AU IGF MAG Member (2019 - 20)* > > > > *ICANN* GAC PSWG Member * | **ICANN *Fellow/Mentor |* Alumni - > *African > > > > School on Internet Governance (2014) > > > > Work Email : > > > > * ilishebomichael at zambiapolice.org.zm < > > > ilishebomichael at zambiapolice.org.zm>* > > > > Contact* : +260965361255* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Social Media Handles* > > > > > > > > *Twitter: @ilishebo* > > > > > > > > *Skype: michael.ilishebo* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *"walk a mile,for a while,with a smile"* > > > --- > > > To unsubscribe: > > > List help: > > > > > > --- > > To unsubscribe: > > List help: > > > -- > Tapani Tarvainen > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ian.peter at ianpeter.com Sun Sep 22 20:22:10 2019 From: ian.peter at ianpeter.com (Ian Peter) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 00:22:10 +0000 Subject: [governance] LAST REMINDER - IGC ELECTION VOTING Message-ID: This is a last reminder to vote in the IGC Coordinator Elections, if you have not done so already. Voting closes at the end of September 23 (AoE zone). If your vote has been received validly, you will have received a confirmation email. If that has not happened, your vote may have been incomplete, and you may wish to use the link in your "invitation to vote" email again to make sure you have voted correctly. Voting is only for those on this list who qualify according to the criteria in the voting slip, including identifying as civil society and having been on this list for more than two months. If that does not apply to you, please ignore this message. Voting results will be announced as soon as is practical after voting has closed and all relevant checks have been completed. If you are having any difficulty with recording your vote, please contact returningofficers at igcaucus.org giving us details of why you have not been able to complete the process. Ian Peter and Tapani Tarvainen Returning Officers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From udochukwu.njoku at unn.edu.ng Sun Sep 22 22:05:41 2019 From: udochukwu.njoku at unn.edu.ng (=?UTF-8?B?Q2hyaXMgUHJpbmNlIFVkb2NodWt3dSBOauG7jWvhu6U=?=) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 03:05:41 +0100 Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Relections - Reminder - Votes Closing in a few days In-Reply-To: References: <20190920091414.GD5636@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> <20190922091007.GA6487@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: From Jean's post, I picked something I think deserves serious attention, and maybe should hasten onset of charter revision. That is, persons who are under 2 months on list at time of election, who joined the list to be IGC members, will wait till the next election (1 year) to have a chance of being an IGC member. Isn't this a long time? It leads me into wanting to ask: Why is voting a requirement for membership? An answer by colleagues who came up with or approved the idea will help so much in deciding to keep or expunge it in/from the charter. In absence of an indispensable rationale, I think we have to step it down and do it soon, before it dampens the morale of someone who comes in with the thought they're joining IGC membership. As per drawing a distinction between members and non-members, whether Tapani or anyone else is interested in doing so or not, the list of members that will be published after the election, as we had been intimated on this list, is just doing that. If such distinction is or may be offensive, can we reassess the idea of and/or approach to publishing the members list? On Sunday, September 22, 2019, Jean F. Quéralt < JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org> wrote: > Hi all. > > Just for the interest of clarification I didn't feel there was any > intention to "purge" per se. I was more trying to point out to that > "loophole" (for lack of a better word on my part - English not being my > first language) as at least all those who joined from BB recently would be > in that particular situation. > > As you mention, it would be a good conversation to look into during a > Charter revision. > > All is good :-) > > Best, > Jean > > On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 5:11 PM Tapani Tarvainen < > tapani.tarvainen at effi.org> wrote: > >> Hi Jean, >> >> My apologies for being unclear. >> >> When I said we have no such plans I meant literally just that - I did >> not intend to imply that anything like that had been considered or >> should or even could be planned. I was just replying to Michael who >> seemed to think it might be possible. Indeed what you correctly >> observe about new members makes it clear that such a purge would not >> be possible. >> >> In any case I am not in any position to remove anyone from the list >> even if wanted to. I'm now only concerned with the elections and apart >> from recording who voted and who didn't I'm not going to make any >> distinctions between list members. >> >> But as your and Michael's questions indicate, it might be good if our >> charter was clearer on this point, distinguishing between new members >> (who are planning to vote as soon as they can) and observers (who can't >> or don't want to vote). But that's just a note for a possible future >> charter revision. >> >> I hope this clarifies the situation. >> >> Best, >> >> Tapani >> >> On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 03:16:08PM +0800, Jean F. Quéralt ( >> JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org) wrote: >> > >> > Dear Tapani, >> > >> > Your message raised doubts in me. >> > >> > >From my understanding from previous messages on this >> > subject, eligible voters had a number of conditions to fulfil; one of >> them >> > being the time they've joined the list. >> > That makes the case that, inevitably, you'll have members of the list >> that >> > can't be voters. I am one of those as I joined the list during the BB >> > merging, less than 2 months ago. So I am a member of the list and can't >> > (won't) vote. >> > >> > I hear you when you say "no plans to purge non-voters"... the question >> that >> > comes to my mind is how to avoid that status to being with since all >> > newcomers will have that 2-months "waiting/vetting" time before being >> able >> > to vote? >> > Anything I am missing? >> > >> > Best, >> > Jean >> > >> > PS: Also read Ian's message on the matter. Just thinking the "limbo >> status" >> > should be identified and addressed if necessary. >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 5:14 PM Tapani Tarvainen < >> tapani.tarvainen at effi.org> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > Dear Michael, >> > > >> > > IGC Charter is a bit unclear about this but practice has long been >> > > that it is perfectly fine to be on the mailing list without being a >> > > (voting) member of the IGC. >> > > >> > > It might be useful to clarify that and the terminology, such people >> > > could be called "observers" or something like that, but I'll leave it >> > > to our future co-coordinators to deal with. >> > > >> > > In any case we have now no plans purge non-voters from the list. >> > > >> > > Regards, >> > > >> > > Tapani >> > > >> > > >> > > On Sep 20 09:58, Michael ILISHEBO (governance at lists.riseup.net) >> wrote: >> > > >> > > > Dear Ian, >> > > > >> > > > As a friend of the Civil Society and one from Government, I am >> ineligible >> > > > to VOTE but would like to remain a member of this mailing list. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > *Michael L. Ilishebo,* >> > > > >> > > > *Lusaka, Zambia* >> > > > *Digital Forensic Analyst -* Zambia Police Service* | * >> > > > *UN IGF MAG Member ( 2017 -19) | AU IGF MAG Member (2019 - 20)* >> > > > *ICANN* GAC PSWG Member * | **ICANN *Fellow/Mentor |* Alumni - >> *African >> > > > School on Internet Governance (2014) >> > > > Work Email : >> > > > * ilishebomichael at zambiapolice.org.zm < >> > > ilishebomichael at zambiapolice.org.zm>* >> > > > Contact* : +260965361255* >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > *Social Media Handles* >> > > > >> > > > *Twitter: @ilishebo* >> > > > >> > > > *Skype: michael.ilishebo* >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > *"walk a mile,for a while,with a smile"* >> > > --- >> > > To unsubscribe: >> > > List help: >> > > >> >> > --- >> > To unsubscribe: >> > List help: >> >> >> -- >> Tapani Tarvainen >> --- >> To unsubscribe: >> List help: >> > -- Chris Prince Udochukwu *Njọkụ*, Ph.D. Computer Communications Centre University of Nigeria, Nsukka 410001 @DrCPUNjoku We mustn't remain with old ways of doing things, especially if they're not yielding optimum results. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Mon Sep 23 00:36:19 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Amali De Silva (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 04:36:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Relections - Reminder - Votes Closing in a few days In-Reply-To: References: <20190920091414.GD5636@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> <20190922091007.GA6487@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: <1121736940.5154649.1569213379188@mail.yahoo.com> I am a non voter and have been part of the WSIS process since its inceptionThe choice not to vote is a democratic right in many countriesPlease continue to include all nonvoters and voters on equal terms for the futureThank youAmali De Silva - Mitchell      On ‎Sunday‎, ‎September‎ ‎22‎, ‎2019‎ ‎04‎:‎47‎:‎36‎ ‎AM‎ ‎PDT, Jean F. Quéralt wrote: Hi all. Just for the interest of clarification I didn't feel there was any intention to "purge" per se. I was more trying to point out to that "loophole" (for lack of a better word on my part - English not being my first language) as at least all those who joined from BB recently would be in that particular situation. As you mention, it would be a good conversation to look into during a Charter revision. All is good :-) Best,Jean On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 5:11 PM Tapani Tarvainen wrote: Hi Jean, My apologies for being unclear. When I said we have no such plans I meant literally just that - I did not intend to imply that anything like that had been considered or should or even could be planned. I was just replying to Michael who seemed to think it might be possible. Indeed what you correctly observe about new members makes it clear that such a purge would not be possible. In any case I am not in any position to remove anyone from the list even if wanted to. I'm now only concerned with the elections and apart from recording who voted and who didn't I'm not going to make any distinctions between list members. But as your and Michael's questions indicate, it might be good if our charter was clearer on this point, distinguishing between new members (who are planning to vote as soon as they can) and observers (who can't or don't want to vote). But that's just a note for a possible future charter revision. I hope this clarifies the situation. Best, Tapani On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 03:16:08PM +0800, Jean F. Quéralt (JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org) wrote: > > Dear Tapani, > > Your message raised doubts in me. > > >From my understanding from previous messages on this > subject, eligible voters had a number of conditions to fulfil; one of them > being the time they've joined the list. > That makes the case that, inevitably, you'll have members of the list that > can't be voters. I am one of those as I joined the list during the BB > merging, less than 2 months ago. So I am a member of the list and can't > (won't) vote. > > I hear you when you say "no plans to purge non-voters"... the question that > comes to my mind is how to avoid that status to being with since all > newcomers will have that 2-months "waiting/vetting" time before being able > to vote? > Anything I am missing? > > Best, > Jean > > PS: Also read Ian's message on the matter. Just thinking the "limbo status" > should be identified and addressed if necessary. > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 5:14 PM Tapani Tarvainen > wrote: > > > Dear Michael, > > > > IGC Charter is a bit unclear about this but practice has long been > > that it is perfectly fine to be on the mailing list without being a > > (voting) member of the IGC. > > > > It might be useful to clarify that and the terminology, such people > > could be called "observers" or something like that, but I'll leave it > > to our future co-coordinators to deal with. > > > > In any case we have now no plans purge non-voters from the list. > > > > Regards, > > > > Tapani > > > > > > On Sep 20 09:58, Michael ILISHEBO (governance at lists.riseup.net) wrote: > > > > > Dear Ian, > > > > > > As a friend of the Civil Society and one from Government, I am ineligible > > > to VOTE but would like to remain a member of this mailing list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > *Michael L. Ilishebo,* > > > > > > *Lusaka, Zambia* > > > *Digital Forensic Analyst -* Zambia Police Service*  | * > > > *UN IGF MAG Member ( 2017 -19)  | AU IGF MAG Member (2019 - 20)* > > > *ICANN* GAC PSWG Member * | **ICANN *Fellow/Mentor  |*  Alumni - *African > > > School on Internet Governance (2014) > > > Work Email : > > > * ilishebomichael at zambiapolice.org.zm < > > ilishebomichael at zambiapolice.org.zm>* > > > Contact* : +260965361255* > > > > > > > > > > > > *Social Media Handles* > > > > > > *Twitter: @ilishebo* > > > > > > *Skype: michael.ilishebo* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *"walk a mile,for a while,with a smile"* > > --- > > To unsubscribe: > > List help: > > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: -- Tapani Tarvainen --- To unsubscribe: List help: --- To unsubscribe: List help: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Mon Sep 23 02:54:52 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" (via governance Mailing List) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 07:54:52 +0100 Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Relections - Reminder - Votes Closing in a few days In-Reply-To: <1121736940.5154649.1569213379188@mail.yahoo.com> References: <20190920091414.GD5636@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> <20190922091007.GA6487@tarvainen.info> <1121736940.5154649.1569213379188@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Guys Read the Charter on the website and it will answer your questions. Sala On Mon, 23 Sep 2019, 5:37 am Amali De Silva, wrote: > > > I am a non voter and have been part of the WSIS process since its inception > The choice not to vote is a democratic right in many countries > Please continue to include all nonvoters and voters on equal terms for the > future > Thank you > Amali De Silva - Mitchell > > > > > On ‎Sunday‎, ‎September‎ ‎22‎, ‎2019‎ ‎04‎:‎47‎:‎36‎ ‎AM‎ ‎PDT, Jean F. > Quéralt wrote: > > > Hi all. > > Just for the interest of clarification I didn't feel there was any > intention to "purge" per se. I was more trying to point out to that > "loophole" (for lack of a better word on my part - English not being my > first language) as at least all those who joined from BB recently would be > in that particular situation. > > As you mention, it would be a good conversation to look into during a > Charter revision. > > All is good :-) > > Best, > Jean > > On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 5:11 PM Tapani Tarvainen < > tapani.tarvainen at effi.org> wrote: > > Hi Jean, > > My apologies for being unclear. > > When I said we have no such plans I meant literally just that - I did > not intend to imply that anything like that had been considered or > should or even could be planned. I was just replying to Michael who > seemed to think it might be possible. Indeed what you correctly > observe about new members makes it clear that such a purge would not > be possible. > > In any case I am not in any position to remove anyone from the list > even if wanted to. I'm now only concerned with the elections and apart > from recording who voted and who didn't I'm not going to make any > distinctions between list members. > > But as your and Michael's questions indicate, it might be good if our > charter was clearer on this point, distinguishing between new members > (who are planning to vote as soon as they can) and observers (who can't > or don't want to vote). But that's just a note for a possible future > charter revision. > > I hope this clarifies the situation. > > Best, > > Tapani > > On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 03:16:08PM +0800, Jean F. Quéralt ( > JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org) wrote: > > > > Dear Tapani, > > > > Your message raised doubts in me. > > > > >From my understanding from previous messages on this > > subject, eligible voters had a number of conditions to fulfil; one of > them > > being the time they've joined the list. > > That makes the case that, inevitably, you'll have members of the list > that > > can't be voters. I am one of those as I joined the list during the BB > > merging, less than 2 months ago. So I am a member of the list and can't > > (won't) vote. > > > > I hear you when you say "no plans to purge non-voters"... the question > that > > comes to my mind is how to avoid that status to being with since all > > newcomers will have that 2-months "waiting/vetting" time before being > able > > to vote? > > Anything I am missing? > > > > Best, > > Jean > > > > PS: Also read Ian's message on the matter. Just thinking the "limbo > status" > > should be identified and addressed if necessary. > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 5:14 PM Tapani Tarvainen < > tapani.tarvainen at effi.org> > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Michael, > > > > > > IGC Charter is a bit unclear about this but practice has long been > > > that it is perfectly fine to be on the mailing list without being a > > > (voting) member of the IGC. > > > > > > It might be useful to clarify that and the terminology, such people > > > could be called "observers" or something like that, but I'll leave it > > > to our future co-coordinators to deal with. > > > > > > In any case we have now no plans purge non-voters from the list. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tapani > > > > > > > > > On Sep 20 09:58, Michael ILISHEBO (governance at lists.riseup.net) wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Ian, > > > > > > > > As a friend of the Civil Society and one from Government, I am > ineligible > > > > to VOTE but would like to remain a member of this mailing list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > *Michael L. Ilishebo,* > > > > > > > > *Lusaka, Zambia* > > > > *Digital Forensic Analyst -* Zambia Police Service* | * > > > > *UN IGF MAG Member ( 2017 -19) | AU IGF MAG Member (2019 - 20)* > > > > *ICANN* GAC PSWG Member * | **ICANN *Fellow/Mentor |* Alumni - > *African > > > > School on Internet Governance (2014) > > > > Work Email : > > > > * ilishebomichael at zambiapolice.org.zm < > > > ilishebomichael at zambiapolice.org.zm>* > > > > Contact* : +260965361255* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Social Media Handles* > > > > > > > > *Twitter: @ilishebo* > > > > > > > > *Skype: michael.ilishebo* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *"walk a mile,for a while,with a smile"* > > > --- > > > To unsubscribe: > > > List help: > > > > > > --- > > To unsubscribe: > > List help: > > > -- > Tapani Tarvainen > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Thu Sep 5 16:41:49 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Antonio Medina =?UTF-8?Q?G=C3=B3mez?= (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 15:41:49 -0500 Subject: [governance] Co coordinator elections - here are the candidates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you Ian. Antonio Medina Gómez Asociación Colombiana de Usuarios de Internet Celular 3223116317 El jue., 5 sept. 2019 a las 14:58, ian.peter at ianpeter.com (< ian.peter at ianpeter.com>) escribió: > Dear Colleagues, > > Nominations for the Co coordinator positions have now closed. There were > four nominations during the period, but one (Olivier MJ Crepin LeBlond) > declined. > > We are left then with a field of three candidates, who are (in no > particular order) > > Sheetal Kumar > Imran Ahmed Shah > Bruna Martins dos Santos > > Over the next few days we will be formalising the confirmations and > getting the voting papers ready - and candidates may provide on line an > updated 300 word statement if they so wish which will be linked to on the > ballot paper. The order of names on the ballot paper will be drawn from a > hat:. > > You can expect to receive your individual ballot paper in a few days - I > will notify the list at the time they are ready to be sent out so you can > be sure to look out for it. > > Thank you to each of the candidates for volunteering to assist IGC in this > way. > > > Ian Peter and Tapani Tarvainen > Returning Officers > > > > > > > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From peter.hellmonds at hellmonds.eu Mon Sep 23 03:46:48 2019 From: peter.hellmonds at hellmonds.eu (Peter H. Hellmonds) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 09:46:48 +0200 Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Relections - Reminder - Votes Closing in a few days In-Reply-To: <1121736940.5154649.1569213379188@mail.yahoo.com> References: <20190920091414.GD5636@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> <20190922091007.GA6487@tarvainen.info> <1121736940.5154649.1569213379188@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5EB09918-3F7A-4210-AAFE-2237128F8684@hellmonds.eu> +1 I have also been a WSIS participant from the beginning. While I primarily associate myself with the business community, I have a track record of working across all stakeholder groups. I don’t think it appropriate for me to engage in the voting process, but would like to stay as a friend of civil society on the list. Best regards, Peter peter.hellmonds at hellmonds.net Sent from my iPad > On 23. Sep 2019, at 06:36, Amali De Silva (via governance Mailing List) wrote: > > > > I am a non voter and have been part of the WSIS process since its inception > The choice not to vote is a democratic right in many countries > Please continue to include all nonvoters and voters on equal terms for the future > Thank you > Amali De Silva - Mitchell > > > > > On ‎Sunday‎, ‎September‎ ‎22‎, ‎2019‎ ‎04‎:‎47‎:‎36‎ ‎AM‎ ‎PDT, Jean F. Quéralt wrote: > > > Hi all. > > Just for the interest of clarification I didn't feel there was any intention to "purge" per se. I was more trying to point out to that "loophole" (for lack of a better word on my part - English not being my first language) as at least all those who joined from BB recently would be in that particular situation. > > As you mention, it would be a good conversation to look into during a Charter revision. > > All is good :-) > > Best, > Jean > > On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 5:11 PM Tapani Tarvainen wrote: > Hi Jean, > > My apologies for being unclear. > > When I said we have no such plans I meant literally just that - I did > not intend to imply that anything like that had been considered or > should or even could be planned. I was just replying to Michael who > seemed to think it might be possible. Indeed what you correctly > observe about new members makes it clear that such a purge would not > be possible. > > In any case I am not in any position to remove anyone from the list > even if wanted to. I'm now only concerned with the elections and apart > from recording who voted and who didn't I'm not going to make any > distinctions between list members. > > But as your and Michael's questions indicate, it might be good if our > charter was clearer on this point, distinguishing between new members > (who are planning to vote as soon as they can) and observers (who can't > or don't want to vote). But that's just a note for a possible future > charter revision. > > I hope this clarifies the situation. > > Best, > > Tapani > > On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 03:16:08PM +0800, Jean F. Quéralt (JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org) wrote: > > > > Dear Tapani, > > > > Your message raised doubts in me. > > > > >From my understanding from previous messages on this > > subject, eligible voters had a number of conditions to fulfil; one of them > > being the time they've joined the list. > > That makes the case that, inevitably, you'll have members of the list that > > can't be voters. I am one of those as I joined the list during the BB > > merging, less than 2 months ago. So I am a member of the list and can't > > (won't) vote. > > > > I hear you when you say "no plans to purge non-voters"... the question that > > comes to my mind is how to avoid that status to being with since all > > newcomers will have that 2-months "waiting/vetting" time before being able > > to vote? > > Anything I am missing? > > > > Best, > > Jean > > > > PS: Also read Ian's message on the matter. Just thinking the "limbo status" > > should be identified and addressed if necessary. > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 5:14 PM Tapani Tarvainen > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Michael, > > > > > > IGC Charter is a bit unclear about this but practice has long been > > > that it is perfectly fine to be on the mailing list without being a > > > (voting) member of the IGC. > > > > > > It might be useful to clarify that and the terminology, such people > > > could be called "observers" or something like that, but I'll leave it > > > to our future co-coordinators to deal with. > > > > > > In any case we have now no plans purge non-voters from the list. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tapani > > > > > > > > > On Sep 20 09:58, Michael ILISHEBO (governance at lists.riseup.net) wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Ian, > > > > > > > > As a friend of the Civil Society and one from Government, I am ineligible > > > > to VOTE but would like to remain a member of this mailing list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > *Michael L. Ilishebo,* > > > > > > > > *Lusaka, Zambia* > > > > *Digital Forensic Analyst -* Zambia Police Service* | * > > > > *UN IGF MAG Member ( 2017 -19) | AU IGF MAG Member (2019 - 20)* > > > > *ICANN* GAC PSWG Member * | **ICANN *Fellow/Mentor |* Alumni - *African > > > > School on Internet Governance (2014) > > > > Work Email : > > > > * ilishebomichael at zambiapolice.org.zm < > > > ilishebomichael at zambiapolice.org.zm>* > > > > Contact* : +260965361255* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Social Media Handles* > > > > > > > > *Twitter: @ilishebo* > > > > > > > > *Skype: michael.ilishebo* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *"walk a mile,for a while,with a smile"* > > > --- > > > To unsubscribe: > > > List help: > > > > > > --- > > To unsubscribe: > > List help: > > > -- > Tapani Tarvainen > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ian.peter at ianpeter.com Tue Sep 24 08:42:01 2019 From: ian.peter at ianpeter.com (Ian Peter) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 12:42:01 +0000 Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Elections 2019 - RESULTS Message-ID: We are pleased to announce the results of the IGC Coordinator Elections, which closed on September 23. The final votes were Bruna Martins dos Santos – 89 votes Sheetal Kumar – 79 votes Imran Ahmed Shah – 51 votes We therefore declare Bruna Martins dos Santos elected for a two year term, and Sheetal Kumar for a one year term. Congratulations to all the candidates and thanks for offering their services. Terms of office start now. As a result of the elections, 148 people have declared themselves to be members of the Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus: this includes 12 who chose to vote “None of the Above”. The list of members is now available at https://igcaucus.org/igc-members-september-2019/ Further details on the election process appear below. ELECTION PROCESS This election had to deal with the unusual circumstance of electing two Coordinators, because of delays in holding previous elections. The results get IGC back on track where elections become an annual event to elect one Cordinator, who will work with the ongoing Cordinator who has not completed their term. A total of 663 invitations to vote were sent: this was the total of email addresses which had been on the IGC mailing list for more than 2 months. Of this total, 148 voted: this was in line with or above expectations, as many people on the list do not identify as civil society members but have an interest in internet governance and like to follow activities here (and others choose to have more than one email address on list). By comparison, the number of voters in the last election where there was more than one candidate and a vote took place was only 99. LimeSurvey software was used and adopted for election purposes. We wish to acknowledge the help of a small group of testers who helped us to refine the software – Norbert Bollow, Farzaneh Badii, Deirdre Williams, Peter Akinremi Taiwo, Arsene Tungali, and Chris Prince Udochukwu Njọkụ. Invitations to vote were sent on September 11. A follow up email to those who had not yet voted was sent on September 18. Other reminders were posted on the IGC Caucus mailing list. Voting closed on September 23. The mailing process resulted in 14 bounced emails, including 7 auto responses indicating that the mailing address was no longer in use: these will be referred to the incoming coordinators to refine the list. One person accidentally voted twice using separate emails. One of these votes was eliminated. The software required people to confirm their eligibility to vote by answering four basic questions: a. that they identify as a member of civil society b. that they have been subscribed to IGC mailing list for more than 2 months c. that they accept the IGC Charter d. that they have not already voted in this election (perhaps utilising another email address) In addition to the 148 people who completed the voting process, an additional 39 people who had commenced the process determined not to continue before reaching the voting page. The system was not preferential. All votes for all candidates were of equal value. All in all, we believe the process went smoothly, drew a good level of participation, and helped strengthen IGC. This would not have happened without the strong groundswell of involvement from many people, reflected in the level of participation in voting and the overall interest in seeing this occur in a timely fashion. It also could not have happened without the strong preliminary work of the Tech Team, led by Imran Ahmed Shah, which restored the website of IGC, creating the basic infrastructure that allowed us to develop a voting system and conduct this exercise. They also deserve your thanks. As determined in discussions including with the previous Coordinator, voting totals for each candidate have been released, as well as names of all those who voted and therefore are now members of IGC. In line with general privacy and GDPR provisions, other details of voters (email addresses etc) will not be released, not will details of who voted for which candidates. The detailed voting slips will be kept for a period of three months, or longer if necessary to resolve any appeals, and will then be erased. The core of the voting software will be retained for possible future use. Ian Peter and Tapani Tarvainen Returning Officers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Tue Sep 24 08:51:00 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (farzaneh badii (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 08:51:00 -0400 Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Elections 2019 - RESULTS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you very much Ian and Tapani for this great work. Congrats to Bruna and Sheetal. Look forward to your leadership. On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 8:42 AM Ian Peter wrote: > We are pleased to announce the results of the IGC Coordinator Elections, > which closed on September 23. > > The final votes were > > > Bruna Martins dos Santos – 89 votes > > Sheetal Kumar – 79 votes > > Imran Ahmed Shah – 51 votes > > > We therefore declare Bruna Martins dos Santos elected for a two year term, > and Sheetal Kumar for a one year term. Congratulations to all the > candidates and thanks for offering their services. Terms of office start > now. > > As a result of the elections, 148 people have declared themselves to be > members of the Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus: this includes 12 > who chose to vote “None of the Above”. The list of members is now available > at https://igcaucus.org/igc-members-september-2019/ > > Further details on the election process appear below. > > ELECTION PROCESS > > This election had to deal with the unusual circumstance of electing two > Coordinators, because of delays in holding previous elections. The results > get IGC back on track where elections become an annual event to elect one > Cordinator, who will work with the ongoing Cordinator who has not completed > their term. > > A total of 663 invitations to vote were sent: this was the total of email > addresses which had been on the IGC mailing list for more than 2 months. Of > this total, 148 voted: this was in line with or above expectations, as many > people on the list do not identify as civil society members but have an > interest in internet governance and like to follow activities here (and > others choose to have more than one email address on list). By comparison, > the number of voters in the last election where there was more than one > candidate and a vote took place was only 99. > > LimeSurvey software was used and adopted for election purposes. We wish to > acknowledge the help of a small group of testers who helped us to refine > the software – Norbert Bollow, Farzaneh Badii, Deirdre Williams, Peter > Akinremi Taiwo, Arsene Tungali, and Chris Prince Udochukwu Njọkụ. > > Invitations to vote were sent on September 11. A follow up email to those > who had not yet voted was sent on September 18. Other reminders were posted > on the IGC Caucus mailing list. Voting closed on September 23. > > The mailing process resulted in 14 bounced emails, including 7 auto > responses indicating that the mailing address was no longer in use: these > will be referred to the incoming coordinators to refine the list. > > One person accidentally voted twice using separate emails. One of these > votes was eliminated. > > The software required people to confirm their eligibility to vote by > answering four basic questions: > > a. that they identify as a member of civil society > > b. that they have been subscribed to IGC mailing list for more than 2 > months > > c. that they accept the IGC Charter > > d. that they have not already voted in this election (perhaps utilising > another email address) > > In addition to the 148 people who completed the voting process, an > additional 39 people who had commenced the process determined not to > continue before reaching the voting page. > > The system was not preferential. All votes for all candidates were of > equal value. > > All in all, we believe the process went smoothly, drew a good level of > participation, and helped strengthen IGC. This would not have happened > without the strong groundswell of involvement from many people, reflected > in the level of participation in voting and the overall interest in seeing > this occur in a timely fashion. It also could not have happened without the > strong preliminary work of the Tech Team, led by Imran Ahmed Shah, which > restored the website of IGC, creating the basic infrastructure that allowed > us to develop a voting system and conduct this exercise. They also deserve > your thanks. > > As determined in discussions including with the previous Coordinator, > voting totals for each candidate have been released, as well as names of > all those who voted and therefore are now members of IGC. In line with > general privacy and GDPR provisions, other details of voters (email > addresses etc) will not be released, not will details of who voted for > which candidates. The detailed voting slips will be kept for a period of > three months, or longer if necessary to resolve any appeals, and will then > be erased. The core of the voting software will be retained for possible > future use. > > > Ian Peter and Tapani Tarvainen > > Returning Officers > > > > > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -- Farzaneh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Tue Sep 24 08:51:35 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Nnenna Nwakanma (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 12:51:35 +0000 Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Elections 2019 - RESULTS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks, Ian, for being there for us. Congratulations to the ladies. Imran, many thanks for your continued engagements. The numbers tell a lot on the current level of engagement here. This, in itself, is a challenge that Co-Coordinators will need to tackle. In my experience, this list is more useful/engaged when there is action.. And not just discussions. Best regards Nnenna On Tue, 24 Sep 2019, 12:42 Ian Peter, wrote: > We are pleased to announce the results of the IGC Coordinator Elections, > which closed on September 23. > > The final votes were > > > Bruna Martins dos Santos – 89 votes > > Sheetal Kumar – 79 votes > > Imran Ahmed Shah – 51 votes > > > We therefore declare Bruna Martins dos Santos elected for a two year term, > and Sheetal Kumar for a one year term. Congratulations to all the > candidates and thanks for offering their services. Terms of office start > now. > > As a result of the elections, 148 people have declared themselves to be > members of the Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus: this includes 12 > who chose to vote “None of the Above”. The list of members is now available > at https://igcaucus.org/igc-members-september-2019/ > > Further details on the election process appear below. > > ELECTION PROCESS > > This election had to deal with the unusual circumstance of electing two > Coordinators, because of delays in holding previous elections. The results > get IGC back on track where elections become an annual event to elect one > Cordinator, who will work with the ongoing Cordinator who has not completed > their term. > > A total of 663 invitations to vote were sent: this was the total of email > addresses which had been on the IGC mailing list for more than 2 months. Of > this total, 148 voted: this was in line with or above expectations, as many > people on the list do not identify as civil society members but have an > interest in internet governance and like to follow activities here (and > others choose to have more than one email address on list). By comparison, > the number of voters in the last election where there was more than one > candidate and a vote took place was only 99. > > LimeSurvey software was used and adopted for election purposes. We wish to > acknowledge the help of a small group of testers who helped us to refine > the software – Norbert Bollow, Farzaneh Badii, Deirdre Williams, Peter > Akinremi Taiwo, Arsene Tungali, and Chris Prince Udochukwu Njọkụ. > > Invitations to vote were sent on September 11. A follow up email to those > who had not yet voted was sent on September 18. Other reminders were posted > on the IGC Caucus mailing list. Voting closed on September 23. > > The mailing process resulted in 14 bounced emails, including 7 auto > responses indicating that the mailing address was no longer in use: these > will be referred to the incoming coordinators to refine the list. > > One person accidentally voted twice using separate emails. One of these > votes was eliminated. > > The software required people to confirm their eligibility to vote by > answering four basic questions: > > a. that they identify as a member of civil society > > b. that they have been subscribed to IGC mailing list for more than 2 > months > > c. that they accept the IGC Charter > > d. that they have not already voted in this election (perhaps utilising > another email address) > > In addition to the 148 people who completed the voting process, an > additional 39 people who had commenced the process determined not to > continue before reaching the voting page. > > The system was not preferential. All votes for all candidates were of > equal value. > > All in all, we believe the process went smoothly, drew a good level of > participation, and helped strengthen IGC. This would not have happened > without the strong groundswell of involvement from many people, reflected > in the level of participation in voting and the overall interest in seeing > this occur in a timely fashion. It also could not have happened without the > strong preliminary work of the Tech Team, led by Imran Ahmed Shah, which > restored the website of IGC, creating the basic infrastructure that allowed > us to develop a voting system and conduct this exercise. They also deserve > your thanks. > > As determined in discussions including with the previous Coordinator, > voting totals for each candidate have been released, as well as names of > all those who voted and therefore are now members of IGC. In line with > general privacy and GDPR provisions, other details of voters (email > addresses etc) will not be released, not will details of who voted for > which candidates. The detailed voting slips will be kept for a period of > three months, or longer if necessary to resolve any appeals, and will then > be erased. The core of the voting software will be retained for possible > future use. > > > Ian Peter and Tapani Tarvainen > > Returning Officers > > > > > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From james at cyberinvasion.net Tue Sep 24 08:52:13 2019 From: james at cyberinvasion.net (James Gannon) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 12:52:13 +0000 Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Elections 2019 - RESULTS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Congrats to both and looking forward to seeing how IGC evolves over the coming time. From: on behalf of farzaneh badii Reply to: "farzaneh.badii at gmail.com" Date: Tuesday, 24 September 2019 at 08:51 To: Ian Peter Cc: governance Subject: Re: [governance] IGC Coordinator Elections 2019 - RESULTS Thank you very much Ian and Tapani for this great work. Congrats to Bruna and Sheetal. Look forward to your leadership. On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 8:42 AM Ian Peter > wrote: We are pleased to announce the results of the IGC Coordinator Elections, which closed on September 23. The final votes were Bruna Martins dos Santos – 89 votes Sheetal Kumar – 79 votes Imran Ahmed Shah – 51 votes We therefore declare Bruna Martins dos Santos elected for a two year term, and Sheetal Kumar for a one year term. Congratulations to all the candidates and thanks for offering their services. Terms of office start now. As a result of the elections, 148 people have declared themselves to be members of the Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus: this includes 12 who chose to vote “None of the Above”. The list of members is now available at https://igcaucus.org/igc-members-september-2019/ Further details on the election process appear below. ELECTION PROCESS This election had to deal with the unusual circumstance of electing two Coordinators, because of delays in holding previous elections. The results get IGC back on track where elections become an annual event to elect one Cordinator, who will work with the ongoing Cordinator who has not completed their term. A total of 663 invitations to vote were sent: this was the total of email addresses which had been on the IGC mailing list for more than 2 months. Of this total, 148 voted: this was in line with or above expectations, as many people on the list do not identify as civil society members but have an interest in internet governance and like to follow activities here (and others choose to have more than one email address on list). By comparison, the number of voters in the last election where there was more than one candidate and a vote took place was only 99. LimeSurvey software was used and adopted for election purposes. We wish to acknowledge the help of a small group of testers who helped us to refine the software – Norbert Bollow, Farzaneh Badii, Deirdre Williams, Peter Akinremi Taiwo, Arsene Tungali, and Chris Prince Udochukwu Njọkụ. Invitations to vote were sent on September 11. A follow up email to those who had not yet voted was sent on September 18. Other reminders were posted on the IGC Caucus mailing list. Voting closed on September 23. The mailing process resulted in 14 bounced emails, including 7 auto responses indicating that the mailing address was no longer in use: these will be referred to the incoming coordinators to refine the list. One person accidentally voted twice using separate emails. One of these votes was eliminated. The software required people to confirm their eligibility to vote by answering four basic questions: a. that they identify as a member of civil society b. that they have been subscribed to IGC mailing list for more than 2 months c. that they accept the IGC Charter d. that they have not already voted in this election (perhaps utilising another email address) In addition to the 148 people who completed the voting process, an additional 39 people who had commenced the process determined not to continue before reaching the voting page. The system was not preferential. All votes for all candidates were of equal value. All in all, we believe the process went smoothly, drew a good level of participation, and helped strengthen IGC. This would not have happened without the strong groundswell of involvement from many people, reflected in the level of participation in voting and the overall interest in seeing this occur in a timely fashion. It also could not have happened without the strong preliminary work of the Tech Team, led by Imran Ahmed Shah, which restored the website of IGC, creating the basic infrastructure that allowed us to develop a voting system and conduct this exercise. They also deserve your thanks. As determined in discussions including with the previous Coordinator, voting totals for each candidate have been released, as well as names of all those who voted and therefore are now members of IGC. In line with general privacy and GDPR provisions, other details of voters (email addresses etc) will not be released, not will details of who voted for which candidates. The detailed voting slips will be kept for a period of three months, or longer if necessary to resolve any appeals, and will then be erased. The core of the voting software will be retained for possible future use. Ian Peter and Tapani Tarvainen Returning Officers --- To unsubscribe: > List help: -- Farzaneh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Tue Sep 24 09:02:26 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Bruna Martins dos Santos (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 10:02:26 -0300 Subject: [governance] IGF 2019 Civil society pre-event: planning and preparation In-Reply-To: <434332890.1489738.1568540267110@mail.yahoo.com> References: <434332890.1489738.1568540267110@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Dear Sheetal, Maybe its worth considering a discussion on climate change and Internet Governance to our day zero meeting. This is something thats been discussed at a different thread set at NCSG mailing list, but there seems to be some interest to facilitate a discussion on these lines at the igf and even require some policy outcome that would look to the matter. @Michael Oghia and @Nick Shorey Lists have been starting this conversation at the NSCG mailing list and I am cc'ing them here! Best, Bruna Le dim. 15 sept. 2019 à 06:38, Amali De Silva a écrit : > > > Please include the teaching of ethics in a globally connected society > … right thought for right action is never out of fashion , right planning > for best action is good risk management … right attitude and compassion > for human care …. > Amali De SIlva-Mitchell > > > > > On ‎Friday‎, ‎September‎ ‎13‎, ‎2019‎ ‎08‎:‎38‎:‎41‎ ‎AM‎ ‎PDT, Remmy > Nweke wrote: > > > Hi Sheetal > This is great thought. > Although not sure of attending yet, I will like to be part of the planning > team. > Will like also to see issues on "Stereotyping of Cyber Crime and Effects > on Developing Economies and Role of Civil Society." > Regards > Remmy > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 12:57 AM Sheetal Kumar > wrote: > > Dear all, > > I'm getting in touch here about planning one of the civil society > pre-events to the IGF session. It's called "Civil society coordination > meeting (Global Partners Digital)" in the schedule but it is *not *a GPD > event. I just applied for it, that's all. It's an event open to all civil > society, and I would suggest that members of IGC should be actively > involved in shaping its agenda. It's been moved to from to 13.30 - 15.30 > pm following a request from the IGF Secretariat. > > When a few of us met on the sidelines of RightsCon earlier this year we > suggested that the event could focus on sharing updates on key global > processes and perhaps planning for how to input into them e.g: the High > Level Panel, the UN First Committee processes on cyber and any others. And > we could also discuss any matters pertaining to the IGC. > > As such, I would be grateful if you could share your views on the > following > > - What topics and/or forums should we discuss at the civil society > pre-event? > - Would you like to discuss any topics related to IGC specifically? > - How should we discuss these topics (presentations, or just open > discussions) bearing in mind we have only 2 hours? > - What outcome would you like to see from the pre-event? > - Would you like to be involved in planning the event (this will require a > dedication of a few hours over the next two months, I can't say how much) > > It would also be great if you could let me know if you're planning to be > there. I know this is dependent on funding for many of us but if you can > give an indication that would be great. > > Looking forward to hearing from you! > > Best > Sheetal > -- > > > *Sheetal Kumar* > Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL > Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL > T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514 | > PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603 > DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31| > > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -- *Bruna Martins dos Santos * Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos @boomartins -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Tue Sep 24 09:16:52 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Nadira Alaraj (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 16:16:52 +0300 Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Elections 2019 - RESULTS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks to Ian and Tapani for running the election, Thanks to all who accepted the nomination and to run the election, Thanks to the outgoing coordinators, and congratulations to Bruna and Sheetal, Best wishes Nadira On Tue, Sep 24, 2019, 15:42 Ian Peter wrote: > We are pleased to announce the results of the IGC Coordinator Elections, > which closed on September 23. > > The final votes were > > > Bruna Martins dos Santos – 89 votes > > Sheetal Kumar – 79 votes > > Imran Ahmed Shah – 51 votes > > > We therefore declare Bruna Martins dos Santos elected for a two year term, > and Sheetal Kumar for a one year term. Congratulations to all the > candidates and thanks for offering their services. Terms of office start > now. > > As a result of the elections, 148 people have declared themselves to be > members of the Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus: this includes 12 > who chose to vote “None of the Above”. The list of members is now available > at https://igcaucus.org/igc-members-september-2019/ > > Further details on the election process appear below. > > ELECTION PROCESS > > This election had to deal with the unusual circumstance of electing two > Coordinators, because of delays in holding previous elections. The results > get IGC back on track where elections become an annual event to elect one > Cordinator, who will work with the ongoing Cordinator who has not completed > their term. > > A total of 663 invitations to vote were sent: this was the total of email > addresses which had been on the IGC mailing list for more than 2 months. Of > this total, 148 voted: this was in line with or above expectations, as many > people on the list do not identify as civil society members but have an > interest in internet governance and like to follow activities here (and > others choose to have more than one email address on list). By comparison, > the number of voters in the last election where there was more than one > candidate and a vote took place was only 99. > > LimeSurvey software was used and adopted for election purposes. We wish to > acknowledge the help of a small group of testers who helped us to refine > the software – Norbert Bollow, Farzaneh Badii, Deirdre Williams, Peter > Akinremi Taiwo, Arsene Tungali, and Chris Prince Udochukwu Njọkụ. > > Invitations to vote were sent on September 11. A follow up email to those > who had not yet voted was sent on September 18. Other reminders were posted > on the IGC Caucus mailing list. Voting closed on September 23. > > The mailing process resulted in 14 bounced emails, including 7 auto > responses indicating that the mailing address was no longer in use: these > will be referred to the incoming coordinators to refine the list. > > One person accidentally voted twice using separate emails. One of these > votes was eliminated. > > The software required people to confirm their eligibility to vote by > answering four basic questions: > > a. that they identify as a member of civil society > > b. that they have been subscribed to IGC mailing list for more than 2 > months > > c. that they accept the IGC Charter > > d. that they have not already voted in this election (perhaps utilising > another email address) > > In addition to the 148 people who completed the voting process, an > additional 39 people who had commenced the process determined not to > continue before reaching the voting page. > > The system was not preferential. All votes for all candidates were of > equal value. > > All in all, we believe the process went smoothly, drew a good level of > participation, and helped strengthen IGC. This would not have happened > without the strong groundswell of involvement from many people, reflected > in the level of participation in voting and the overall interest in seeing > this occur in a timely fashion. It also could not have happened without the > strong preliminary work of the Tech Team, led by Imran Ahmed Shah, which > restored the website of IGC, creating the basic infrastructure that allowed > us to develop a voting system and conduct this exercise. They also deserve > your thanks. > > As determined in discussions including with the previous Coordinator, > voting totals for each candidate have been released, as well as names of > all those who voted and therefore are now members of IGC. In line with > general privacy and GDPR provisions, other details of voters (email > addresses etc) will not be released, not will details of who voted for > which candidates. The detailed voting slips will be kept for a period of > three months, or longer if necessary to resolve any appeals, and will then > be erased. The core of the voting software will be retained for possible > future use. > > > Ian Peter and Tapani Tarvainen > > Returning Officers > > > > > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From judith at jhellerstein.com Tue Sep 24 09:27:23 2019 From: judith at jhellerstein.com (Judith Hellerstein) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 09:27:23 -0400 Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Elections 2019 - RESULTS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17b5da35-5cac-7f4f-786b-fd35f5d8271a@jhellerstein.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From udochukwu.njoku at unn.edu.ng Tue Sep 24 10:38:46 2019 From: udochukwu.njoku at unn.edu.ng (=?UTF-8?B?Q2hyaXMgUHJpbmNlIFVkb2NodWt3dSBOauG7jWvhu6U=?=) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 15:38:46 +0100 Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Elections 2019 - RESULTS In-Reply-To: <17b5da35-5cac-7f4f-786b-fd35f5d8271a@jhellerstein.com> References: <17b5da35-5cac-7f4f-786b-fd35f5d8271a@jhellerstein.com> Message-ID: This noble job had been superlatively done. The enthusiasm and commitment displayed by everyone toward the expected new IGC is exemplary and worth upholding, indeed. My two thumps are up. [image: Thumbs up 1.jpg] Chris Prince Udochukwu *Njọkụ*, Ph.D. Computer Communications Centre University of Nigeria, Nsukka 410001 @DrCPUNjoku We mustn't remain with old ways of doing things, especially if they're not yielding optimum results. On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 2:27 PM Judith Hellerstein wrote: > Ian and Tapani > > Thanks so much for all your hard work and for your detailed explanations > and voting information. I found this email very helpful and explanatory. > Congrats to the newly appointed leaders Bruna and Sheetal. Thanks to Imran > for his participation ad efforts in this election. Looking forward to your > leadership > > Best, > > Judith > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO > Hellerstein & Associates > 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 > Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein > Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517 > E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com > Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ > Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide > > > On 9/24/2019 8:42 AM, Ian Peter wrote: > > We are pleased to announce the results of the IGC Coordinator Elections, > which closed on September 23. > > The final votes were > > > Bruna Martins dos Santos – 89 votes > > Sheetal Kumar – 79 votes > > Imran Ahmed Shah – 51 votes > > > We therefore declare Bruna Martins dos Santos elected for a two year term, > and Sheetal Kumar for a one year term. Congratulations to all the > candidates and thanks for offering their services. Terms of office start > now. > > As a result of the elections, 148 people have declared themselves to be > members of the Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus: this includes 12 > who chose to vote “None of the Above”. The list of members is now available > at https://igcaucus.org/igc-members-september-2019/ > > Further details on the election process appear below. > > ELECTION PROCESS > > This election had to deal with the unusual circumstance of electing two > Coordinators, because of delays in holding previous elections. The results > get IGC back on track where elections become an annual event to elect one > Cordinator, who will work with the ongoing Cordinator who has not completed > their term. > > A total of 663 invitations to vote were sent: this was the total of email > addresses which had been on the IGC mailing list for more than 2 months. Of > this total, 148 voted: this was in line with or above expectations, as many > people on the list do not identify as civil society members but have an > interest in internet governance and like to follow activities here (and > others choose to have more than one email address on list). By comparison, > the number of voters in the last election where there was more than one > candidate and a vote took place was only 99. > > LimeSurvey software was used and adopted for election purposes. We wish to > acknowledge the help of a small group of testers who helped us to refine > the software – Norbert Bollow, Farzaneh Badii, Deirdre Williams, Peter > Akinremi Taiwo, Arsene Tungali, and Chris Prince Udochukwu Njọkụ. > > Invitations to vote were sent on September 11. A follow up email to those > who had not yet voted was sent on September 18. Other reminders were posted > on the IGC Caucus mailing list. Voting closed on September 23. > > The mailing process resulted in 14 bounced emails, including 7 auto > responses indicating that the mailing address was no longer in use: these > will be referred to the incoming coordinators to refine the list. > > One person accidentally voted twice using separate emails. One of these > votes was eliminated. > > The software required people to confirm their eligibility to vote by > answering four basic questions: > > a. that they identify as a member of civil society > > b. that they have been subscribed to IGC mailing list for more than 2 > months > > c. that they accept the IGC Charter > > d. that they have not already voted in this election (perhaps utilising > another email address) > > In addition to the 148 people who completed the voting process, an > additional 39 people who had commenced the process determined not to > continue before reaching the voting page. > > The system was not preferential. All votes for all candidates were of > equal value. > > All in all, we believe the process went smoothly, drew a good level of > participation, and helped strengthen IGC. This would not have happened > without the strong groundswell of involvement from many people, reflected > in the level of participation in voting and the overall interest in seeing > this occur in a timely fashion. It also could not have happened without the > strong preliminary work of the Tech Team, led by Imran Ahmed Shah, which > restored the website of IGC, creating the basic infrastructure that allowed > us to develop a voting system and conduct this exercise. They also deserve > your thanks. > > As determined in discussions including with the previous Coordinator, > voting totals for each candidate have been released, as well as names of > all those who voted and therefore are now members of IGC. In line with > general privacy and GDPR provisions, other details of voters (email > addresses etc) will not be released, not will details of who voted for > which candidates. The detailed voting slips will be kept for a period of > three months, or longer if necessary to resolve any appeals, and will then > be erased. The core of the voting software will be retained for possible > future use. > > > Ian Peter and Tapani Tarvainen > > Returning Officers > > > > > > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Thumbs up 1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 6641 bytes Desc: not available URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Tue Sep 24 11:21:51 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Michael J. Oghia" (via governance Mailing List) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 17:21:51 +0200 Subject: [governance] IGF 2019 Civil society pre-event: planning and preparation In-Reply-To: References: <434332890.1489738.1568540267110@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Bruna, all: Thanks for looping me in. I've been hoping for some time that more people throughout the IG community would see the value in discussing climate change and sustainability as it relates to our work. Indeed, many different groups and initiatives are working on it, albeit across sectors and stakeholder groups. It's a massive problem – and it's not just data centers, it's literally everything you can think of as it relates to technology. While Internet governance tends (or at least tries) to limit itself to discussions about processes or what's *on* the Internet, the fact is there are multiple ways that the IG community could address sustainability more broadly (see the EuroDIG 2017 session I organised, for instance). At the same time, IRPC is really spearheading this at the moment. I think it's more prudent to join with them in support to address how climate change and sustainability are, at the very core, human rights issues, as well as to limit redundancy. Instead of briefing everyone on the issue, for example, I'd happily give a webinar to anyone interested about the interconnections (but I've also written extensively about it). My suggestion is to support IRPC and leave the CS pre-event to strategy or another topic that isn't covered at all by the IGF (the workshops have a rather narrow focus this year, to put it diplomatic terms). Best, -Michael On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 3:02 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos < bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Sheetal, > > Maybe its worth considering a discussion on climate change and Internet > Governance to our day zero meeting. This is something thats been discussed > at a different thread set at NCSG mailing list, but there seems to be some > interest to facilitate a discussion on these lines at the igf and even > require some policy outcome that would look to the matter. > > @Michael Oghia and @Nick Shorey Lists > have been starting this conversation at the NSCG > mailing list and I am cc'ing them here! > > Best, > Bruna > > Le dim. 15 sept. 2019 à 06:38, Amali De Silva > a écrit : > >> >> >> Please include the teaching of ethics in a globally connected society >> … right thought for right action is never out of fashion , right planning >> for best action is good risk management … right attitude and compassion >> for human care …. >> Amali De SIlva-Mitchell >> >> >> >> >> On ‎Friday‎, ‎September‎ ‎13‎, ‎2019‎ ‎08‎:‎38‎:‎41‎ ‎AM‎ ‎PDT, Remmy >> Nweke wrote: >> >> >> Hi Sheetal >> This is great thought. >> Although not sure of attending yet, I will like to be part of the >> planning team. >> Will like also to see issues on "Stereotyping of Cyber Crime and Effects >> on Developing Economies and Role of Civil Society." >> Regards >> Remmy >> >> On Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 12:57 AM Sheetal Kumar >> wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> >> I'm getting in touch here about planning one of the civil society >> pre-events to the IGF session. It's called "Civil society coordination >> meeting (Global Partners Digital)" in the schedule but it is *not *a GPD >> event. I just applied for it, that's all. It's an event open to all civil >> society, and I would suggest that members of IGC should be actively >> involved in shaping its agenda. It's been moved to from to 13.30 - 15.30 >> pm following a request from the IGF Secretariat. >> >> When a few of us met on the sidelines of RightsCon earlier this year we >> suggested that the event could focus on sharing updates on key global >> processes and perhaps planning for how to input into them e.g: the High >> Level Panel, the UN First Committee processes on cyber and any others. And >> we could also discuss any matters pertaining to the IGC. >> >> As such, I would be grateful if you could share your views on the >> following >> >> - What topics and/or forums should we discuss at the civil society >> pre-event? >> - Would you like to discuss any topics related to IGC specifically? >> - How should we discuss these topics (presentations, or just open >> discussions) bearing in mind we have only 2 hours? >> - What outcome would you like to see from the pre-event? >> - Would you like to be involved in planning the event (this will require >> a dedication of a few hours over the next two months, I can't say how much) >> >> It would also be great if you could let me know if you're planning to be >> there. I know this is dependent on funding for many of us but if you can >> give an indication that would be great. >> >> Looking forward to hearing from you! >> >> Best >> Sheetal >> -- >> >> >> *Sheetal Kumar* >> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL >> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL >> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514 | >> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603 >> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31| >> >> >> --- >> To unsubscribe: >> List help: >> >> --- >> To unsubscribe: >> List help: >> --- >> To unsubscribe: >> List help: >> > > > -- > *Bruna Martins dos Santos * > > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos > @boomartins > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sheetal at gp-digital.org Thu Sep 5 18:39:07 2019 From: sheetal at gp-digital.org (Sheetal Kumar) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 18:39:07 -0400 Subject: [governance] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear all, Thank you again to Deirdre for the nomination, and to the returning officers for all their efforts so far. I include below my statement. *My name is Sheetal Kumar, and I’m based in London, UK where I’m a Programme Lead at Global Partners Digital (GPD). I believe the role of IGC coordinator requires enthusiasm, understanding of internet policy issues, organisational and facilitation skills. At GPD, I have experience in facilitating civil society engagement in internet policy and governance spaces, including at the global level where I’ve been working on ensuring greater openness, inclusivity and transparency for civil society engagement in multistakeholder and multilateral processes. For example, I’ve supported coordination of civil society in the WSIS+10 Review Process, and other global processes including the ICDPPC, the G20, the UNHRC and more recently the HLP and the UN First Committee. Currently, I lead a cybersecurity capacity building programme which supports civil society organisations to promote and protect human rights in relevant discussions at the national and global levels. * *In addition, I represented Bestbits at the CSCG where I helped to coordinate the involvement of the previous Bestbits network in the CSCG. I’ve also been an active participant in the civil society pre-IGF coordination mee*tings, *as well as a participant of the IGF and its intersessional activities, most recently the BPF on cybersecurity.* *I’ve been helping to lead the discussions regarding the closure of Bestbits and been involved in the related discussions regarding the IGC’s revival. As the internet and digital technologies become increasingly relevant, we need a coordinated and strong civil society presence which meaningfully involves a diverse and wide range of voices more than ever. I believe my experience in the field of internet policy, relationships with a wide range of stakeholders in the community, and my facilitation of the closing of Bestbits process, as well as my strong organisational skills will support me to carry out a role as IGC coordinator. * On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 at 00:06, ahmed eisa wrote: > Dear friends > I support the nomination of Sheetal because she is one of the best active > civil society I met and she deserve the nomination > Ahmed eisa Sudan > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 6:13 PM Sheetal Kumar > wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> Thank you to Deirdre for the nomination, and to others for their >> expression of support so far. I appreciate the trust and support and I'll >> send the 300 word statement as requested in the next week. >> >> Best wishes >> Sheetal. >> >> On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 at 23:50, Remmy Nweke wrote: >> >>> Supported >>> ____ >>> REMMY NWEKE, mNGE, >>> Lead Consulting Strategist/Group Executive Editor, >>> DigitalSENSE Africa Media [*Multiple-award winning medium*] >>> (DigitalSENSE Business News >>> ; ITREALMS >>> , NaijaAgroNet >>> ) >>> Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos >>> M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms >>> >>> Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria >>> >>> >>> *2020 Nigeria DigitalSENSE Forum on IG4D & Nigeria IPv6 Roundtable >>> * >>> JOIN us!! >>> >>> *Vice President, African Civil Society on the Information Society (ACSIS >>> ) >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and >>> attachments are confidential and may also be privileged information. 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Violators may face court persecution. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 7:30 PM Nadira Alaraj < >>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: >>> >>>> I second Deirdre nomination to Sheetal Kumar, >>>> Sheetal is an achiever, she never leaves any unfinished task before >>>> being accomplished. >>>> >>>> I hope Sheetal will accept to be one of the coordinators to IGC. >>>> >>>> Nadira AL-Araj >>>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019, 20:29 Deirdre Williams < >>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sheetal Kumar >>>>> >>>>> Country of residence: UK >>>>> >>>>> Country of origin: UK >>>>> >>>>> I nominate Sheetal Kumar to be one of two co-coordinators for the >>>>> Internet Governance Caucus (IGC). While several people have been working >>>>> steadily for more than six months to re-awake and unify a voice of civil >>>>> society in the internet governance debate, it has been Sheetal’s >>>>> persistence that has provided the “glue” to hold the group together. She >>>>> has been open to all points of view, patient, diplomatic, working towards >>>>> consensus without steering things towards her own preference, while keeping >>>>> the group together to produce results. IGC needs these skills if it is to >>>>> survive as an effective actor. >>>>> >>>>> Deirdre Williams >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir >>>>> William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 >>>>> --- >>>>> To unsubscribe: >>>>> List help: >>>>> >>>> --- >>>> To unsubscribe: >>>> List help: >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> >> *Sheetal Kumar* >> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL >> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL >> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514 | >> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603 >> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31| >> >> >> --- >> To unsubscribe: >> List help: >> > -- *Sheetal Kumar* Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514 | PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31| -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sheetal at gp-digital.org Tue Sep 24 12:47:34 2019 From: sheetal at gp-digital.org (Sheetal Kumar) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 17:47:34 +0100 Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Elections 2019 - RESULTS In-Reply-To: References: <17b5da35-5cac-7f4f-786b-fd35f5d8271a@jhellerstein.com> Message-ID: Dear all, Thank you very much for the support! I'm looking forward to working with you all over the next year, and with Bruna as co-coordinator, to support the work of IGC and to help fulfill its aims as stated in the Charter. Thank you also to Imran for all his work already with the closure of Bestbits and the restoration of the IGC website, and to the Returning Officers Ian and Tapani for running the election process so smoothly and transparently. Bruna and I will be in touch shortly, once we've had a chance to converse! In the short term, we'll be helping to organise the IGF day 0 event in Berlin. I've started a separate thread on this list to support the organisation of that and I hope many of us will be able to make it! Best Sheetal. On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 15:42, Chris Prince Udochukwu Njọkụ < udochukwu.njoku at unn.edu.ng> wrote: > This noble job had been superlatively done. The enthusiasm and commitment > displayed by everyone toward the expected new IGC is exemplary and worth > upholding, indeed. > > My two thumps are up. > [image: Thumbs up 1.jpg] > > > Chris Prince Udochukwu *Njọkụ*, Ph.D. > Computer Communications Centre > University of Nigeria, Nsukka 410001 > @DrCPUNjoku > > We mustn't remain with old ways of doing things, > > especially if they're not yielding optimum results. > > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 2:27 PM Judith Hellerstein < > judith at jhellerstein.com> wrote: > >> Ian and Tapani >> >> Thanks so much for all your hard work and for your detailed explanations >> and voting information. I found this email very helpful and explanatory. >> Congrats to the newly appointed leaders Bruna and Sheetal. Thanks to Imran >> for his participation ad efforts in this election. Looking forward to your >> leadership >> >> Best, >> >> Judith >> >> _________________________________________________________________________ >> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO >> Hellerstein & Associates >> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 >> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein >> Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517 >> E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com >> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ >> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide >> >> >> On 9/24/2019 8:42 AM, Ian Peter wrote: >> >> We are pleased to announce the results of the IGC Coordinator Elections, >> which closed on September 23. >> >> The final votes were >> >> >> Bruna Martins dos Santos – 89 votes >> >> Sheetal Kumar – 79 votes >> >> Imran Ahmed Shah – 51 votes >> >> >> We therefore declare Bruna Martins dos Santos elected for a two year >> term, and Sheetal Kumar for a one year term. Congratulations to all the >> candidates and thanks for offering their services. Terms of office start >> now. >> >> As a result of the elections, 148 people have declared themselves to be >> members of the Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus: this includes 12 >> who chose to vote “None of the Above”. The list of members is now available >> at https://igcaucus.org/igc-members-september-2019/ >> >> Further details on the election process appear below. >> >> ELECTION PROCESS >> >> This election had to deal with the unusual circumstance of electing two >> Coordinators, because of delays in holding previous elections. The results >> get IGC back on track where elections become an annual event to elect one >> Cordinator, who will work with the ongoing Cordinator who has not completed >> their term. >> >> A total of 663 invitations to vote were sent: this was the total of email >> addresses which had been on the IGC mailing list for more than 2 months. Of >> this total, 148 voted: this was in line with or above expectations, as many >> people on the list do not identify as civil society members but have an >> interest in internet governance and like to follow activities here (and >> others choose to have more than one email address on list). By comparison, >> the number of voters in the last election where there was more than one >> candidate and a vote took place was only 99. >> >> LimeSurvey software was used and adopted for election purposes. We wish >> to acknowledge the help of a small group of testers who helped us to refine >> the software – Norbert Bollow, Farzaneh Badii, Deirdre Williams, Peter >> Akinremi Taiwo, Arsene Tungali, and Chris Prince Udochukwu Njọkụ. >> >> Invitations to vote were sent on September 11. A follow up email to those >> who had not yet voted was sent on September 18. Other reminders were posted >> on the IGC Caucus mailing list. Voting closed on September 23. >> >> The mailing process resulted in 14 bounced emails, including 7 auto >> responses indicating that the mailing address was no longer in use: these >> will be referred to the incoming coordinators to refine the list. >> >> One person accidentally voted twice using separate emails. One of these >> votes was eliminated. >> >> The software required people to confirm their eligibility to vote by >> answering four basic questions: >> >> a. that they identify as a member of civil society >> >> b. that they have been subscribed to IGC mailing list for more than 2 >> months >> >> c. that they accept the IGC Charter >> >> d. that they have not already voted in this election (perhaps utilising >> another email address) >> >> In addition to the 148 people who completed the voting process, an >> additional 39 people who had commenced the process determined not to >> continue before reaching the voting page. >> >> The system was not preferential. All votes for all candidates were of >> equal value. >> >> All in all, we believe the process went smoothly, drew a good level of >> participation, and helped strengthen IGC. This would not have happened >> without the strong groundswell of involvement from many people, reflected >> in the level of participation in voting and the overall interest in seeing >> this occur in a timely fashion. It also could not have happened without the >> strong preliminary work of the Tech Team, led by Imran Ahmed Shah, which >> restored the website of IGC, creating the basic infrastructure that allowed >> us to develop a voting system and conduct this exercise. They also deserve >> your thanks. >> >> As determined in discussions including with the previous Coordinator, >> voting totals for each candidate have been released, as well as names of >> all those who voted and therefore are now members of IGC. In line with >> general privacy and GDPR provisions, other details of voters (email >> addresses etc) will not be released, not will details of who voted for >> which candidates. The detailed voting slips will be kept for a period of >> three months, or longer if necessary to resolve any appeals, and will then >> be erased. The core of the voting software will be retained for possible >> future use. >> >> >> Ian Peter and Tapani Tarvainen >> >> Returning Officers >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> To unsubscribe: >> List help: >> >> --- >> To unsubscribe: >> List help: >> > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -- *Sheetal Kumar* Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514 | PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31| -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The smaller group will liaise with everyone once we have some initial ideas to propose on how to organise the event. Hope that's ok? Best Sheetal On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 16:22, "Michael J. Oghia" < governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: > Hi Bruna, all: > > Thanks for looping me in. I've been hoping for some time that more people > throughout the IG community would see the value in discussing climate > change and sustainability as it relates to our work. Indeed, many different > groups and initiatives are working on it, albeit across sectors and > stakeholder groups. > > It's a massive problem – and it's not just data centers, it's literally > everything you can think of as it relates to technology. While Internet > governance tends (or at least tries) to limit itself to discussions about > processes or what's *on* the Internet, the fact is there are multiple > ways that the IG community could address sustainability more broadly (see > the EuroDIG 2017 session I > organised, for instance). > > At the same time, IRPC is really spearheading this at the moment. I think > it's more prudent to join with them in support to address how climate > change and sustainability are, at the very core, human rights issues, as > well as to limit redundancy. Instead of briefing everyone on the issue, for > example, I'd happily give a webinar to anyone interested about the > interconnections (but I've also written extensively about it). > > My suggestion is to support IRPC and leave the CS pre-event to strategy or > another topic that isn't covered at all by the IGF (the workshops have a > rather narrow focus this year, to put it diplomatic terms). > > Best, > -Michael > > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 3:02 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos < > bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Dear Sheetal, >> >> Maybe its worth considering a discussion on climate change and Internet >> Governance to our day zero meeting. This is something thats been discussed >> at a different thread set at NCSG mailing list, but there seems to be some >> interest to facilitate a discussion on these lines at the igf and even >> require some policy outcome that would look to the matter. >> >> @Michael Oghia and @Nick Shorey Lists >> have been starting this conversation at the NSCG >> mailing list and I am cc'ing them here! >> >> Best, >> Bruna >> >> Le dim. 15 sept. 2019 à 06:38, Amali De Silva < >> governance at lists.riseup.net> a écrit : >> >>> >>> >>> Please include the teaching of ethics in a globally connected society >>> … right thought for right action is never out of fashion , right >>> planning for best action is good risk management … right attitude and >>> compassion for human care …. >>> Amali De SIlva-Mitchell >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On ‎Friday‎, ‎September‎ ‎13‎, ‎2019‎ ‎08‎:‎38‎:‎41‎ ‎AM‎ ‎PDT, Remmy >>> Nweke wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi Sheetal >>> This is great thought. >>> Although not sure of attending yet, I will like to be part of the >>> planning team. >>> Will like also to see issues on "Stereotyping of Cyber Crime and Effects >>> on Developing Economies and Role of Civil Society." >>> Regards >>> Remmy >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 12:57 AM Sheetal Kumar >>> wrote: >>> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> I'm getting in touch here about planning one of the civil society >>> pre-events to the IGF session. It's called "Civil society coordination >>> meeting (Global Partners Digital)" in the schedule but it is *not *a >>> GPD event. I just applied for it, that's all. It's an event open to all >>> civil society, and I would suggest that members of IGC should be actively >>> involved in shaping its agenda. It's been moved to from to 13.30 - 15.30 >>> pm following a request from the IGF Secretariat. >>> >>> When a few of us met on the sidelines of RightsCon earlier this year we >>> suggested that the event could focus on sharing updates on key global >>> processes and perhaps planning for how to input into them e.g: the High >>> Level Panel, the UN First Committee processes on cyber and any others. And >>> we could also discuss any matters pertaining to the IGC. >>> >>> As such, I would be grateful if you could share your views on the >>> following >>> >>> - What topics and/or forums should we discuss at the civil society >>> pre-event? >>> - Would you like to discuss any topics related to IGC specifically? >>> - How should we discuss these topics (presentations, or just open >>> discussions) bearing in mind we have only 2 hours? >>> - What outcome would you like to see from the pre-event? >>> - Would you like to be involved in planning the event (this will require >>> a dedication of a few hours over the next two months, I can't say how much) >>> >>> It would also be great if you could let me know if you're planning to be >>> there. I know this is dependent on funding for many of us but if you can >>> give an indication that would be great. >>> >>> Looking forward to hearing from you! >>> >>> Best >>> Sheetal >>> -- >>> >>> >>> *Sheetal Kumar* >>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL >>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL >>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514 | >>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603 >>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31| >>> >>> >>> --- >>> To unsubscribe: >>> List help: >>> >>> --- >>> To unsubscribe: >>> List help: >>> --- >>> To unsubscribe: >>> List help: >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Bruna Martins dos Santos * >> >> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos >> @boomartins >> > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -- *Sheetal Kumar* Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514 | PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31| -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Tue Sep 24 13:55:32 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Nnenna Nwakanma (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 17:55:32 +0000 Subject: [governance] IGF 2019 Civil society pre-event: planning and preparation In-Reply-To: References: <434332890.1489738.1568540267110@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I think the UN High-Level Panel Report on Digital Cooperation should be on the agenda. Not just feedback on the report, but anticipating CS engagement going forward. Following the Christchurch call a Charter was launched. I have also copied and posted what I think is an important Declaration of key governments. Simply put, we need to discuss how we respond to internet governance legislation and regulatory moves across the world. If all goes as planned, I will be in Berlin Best N ------ Forwarded Message -------- The following text is a joint statement affirmed by these countries: Australia, Belgium, Canada, Colombia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Lithuania, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, the Republic of Korea, Romania, Slovakia, Spain, Sweden, the United Kingdom, and the United States. Begin Text: Joint Statement on Advancing Responsible State Behavior in Cyberspace Information technology is transforming modern life, driving innovation and productivity, facilitating the sharing of ideas, of cultures, and promoting free expression. Its benefits have brought the global community closer together than ever before in history. Even as we recognize the myriad benefits that cyberspace has brought to our citizens and strive to ensure that humanity can continue to reap its benefits, a challenge to this vision has emerged. State and non-state actors are using cyberspace increasingly as a platform for irresponsible behavior from which to target critical infrastructure and our citizens, undermine democracies and international institutions and organizations, and undercut fair competition in our global economy by stealing ideas when they cannot create them. Over the past decade, the international community has made clear that the international rules-based order should guide state behavior in cyberspace. UN member states have increasingly coalesced around an evolving framework of responsible state behavior in cyberspace (framework), which supports the international rules-based order, affirms the applicability of international law to state-on-state behavior, adherence to voluntary norms of responsible state behavior in peacetime, and the development and implementation of practical confidence building measures to help reduce the risk of conflict stemming from cyber incidents. All members of the United Nations General Assembly have repeatedly affirmed this framework, articulated in three successive UN Groups of Governmental Experts reports in 2010, 2013, and 2015. We underscore our commitment to uphold the international rules-based order and encourage its adherence, implementation, and further development, including at the ongoing UN negotiations of the Open Ended Working Group and Group of Governmental Experts. We support targeted cybersecurity capacity building to ensure that all responsible states can implement this framework and better protect their networks from significant disruptive, destructive, or otherwise destabilizing cyber activity. We reiterate that human rights apply and must be respected and protected by states online, as well as offline, including when addressing cybersecurity. As responsible states that uphold the international rules-based order, we recognize our role in safeguarding the benefits of a free, open, and secure cyberspace for future generations. When necessary, we will work together on a voluntary basis to hold states accountable when they act contrary to this framework, including by taking measures that are transparent and consistent with international law. There must be consequences for bad behavior in cyberspace. We call on all states to support the evolving framework and to join with us to ensure greater accountability and stability in cyberspace. End Text For further information, please contact the Office of the Coordinator for Cyber Issues at SCCI_Press at state.gov. On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 4:59 PM Sheetal Kumar wrote: > Dear all, > > Thanks for these inputs! > > So far I've got that people are interested in discussing the following > topics: 1) cybercrime 2) ethics 3) sustainability. > > I suggest we together a small working group who has the capacity to steer > the organisation of the session in an inclusive way. If you're interested > in being part of that, if you could email Bruna and I we'll start a > dedicated thread to support the organisation of the event. The smaller > group will liaise with everyone once we have some initial ideas to propose > on how to organise the event. > > Hope that's ok? > > Best > Sheetal > > On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 16:22, "Michael J. Oghia" < > governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: > >> Hi Bruna, all: >> >> Thanks for looping me in. I've been hoping for some time that more people >> throughout the IG community would see the value in discussing climate >> change and sustainability as it relates to our work. Indeed, many different >> groups and initiatives are working on it, albeit across sectors and >> stakeholder groups. >> >> It's a massive problem – and it's not just data centers, it's literally >> everything you can think of as it relates to technology. While Internet >> governance tends (or at least tries) to limit itself to discussions about >> processes or what's *on* the Internet, the fact is there are multiple >> ways that the IG community could address sustainability more broadly (see >> the EuroDIG 2017 session I >> organised, for instance). >> >> At the same time, IRPC is really spearheading this at the moment. I think >> it's more prudent to join with them in support to address how climate >> change and sustainability are, at the very core, human rights issues, as >> well as to limit redundancy. Instead of briefing everyone on the issue, for >> example, I'd happily give a webinar to anyone interested about the >> interconnections (but I've also written extensively about it). >> >> My suggestion is to support IRPC and leave the CS pre-event to strategy >> or another topic that isn't covered at all by the IGF (the workshops have a >> rather narrow focus this year, to put it diplomatic terms). >> >> Best, >> -Michael >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 3:02 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos < >> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Dear Sheetal, >>> >>> Maybe its worth considering a discussion on climate change and Internet >>> Governance to our day zero meeting. This is something thats been discussed >>> at a different thread set at NCSG mailing list, but there seems to be some >>> interest to facilitate a discussion on these lines at the igf and even >>> require some policy outcome that would look to the matter. >>> >>> @Michael Oghia and @Nick Shorey Lists >>> have been starting this conversation at the NSCG >>> mailing list and I am cc'ing them here! >>> >>> Best, >>> Bruna >>> >>> Le dim. 15 sept. 2019 à 06:38, Amali De Silva < >>> governance at lists.riseup.net> a écrit : >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Please include the teaching of ethics in a globally connected society >>>> … right thought for right action is never out of fashion , right >>>> planning for best action is good risk management … right attitude and >>>> compassion for human care …. >>>> Amali De SIlva-Mitchell >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On ‎Friday‎, ‎September‎ ‎13‎, ‎2019‎ ‎08‎:‎38‎:‎41‎ ‎AM‎ ‎PDT, Remmy >>>> Nweke wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Sheetal >>>> This is great thought. >>>> Although not sure of attending yet, I will like to be part of the >>>> planning team. >>>> Will like also to see issues on "Stereotyping of Cyber Crime and >>>> Effects on Developing Economies and Role of Civil Society." >>>> Regards >>>> Remmy >>>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 12:57 AM Sheetal Kumar >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear all, >>>> >>>> I'm getting in touch here about planning one of the civil society >>>> pre-events to the IGF session. It's called "Civil society coordination >>>> meeting (Global Partners Digital)" in the schedule but it is *not *a >>>> GPD event. I just applied for it, that's all. It's an event open to all >>>> civil society, and I would suggest that members of IGC should be actively >>>> involved in shaping its agenda. It's been moved to from to 13.30 - 15.30 >>>> pm following a request from the IGF Secretariat. >>>> >>>> When a few of us met on the sidelines of RightsCon earlier this year we >>>> suggested that the event could focus on sharing updates on key global >>>> processes and perhaps planning for how to input into them e.g: the High >>>> Level Panel, the UN First Committee processes on cyber and any others. And >>>> we could also discuss any matters pertaining to the IGC. >>>> >>>> As such, I would be grateful if you could share your views on the >>>> following >>>> >>>> - What topics and/or forums should we discuss at the civil society >>>> pre-event? >>>> - Would you like to discuss any topics related to IGC specifically? >>>> - How should we discuss these topics (presentations, or just open >>>> discussions) bearing in mind we have only 2 hours? >>>> - What outcome would you like to see from the pre-event? >>>> - Would you like to be involved in planning the event (this will >>>> require a dedication of a few hours over the next two months, I can't say >>>> how much) >>>> >>>> It would also be great if you could let me know if you're planning to >>>> be there. I know this is dependent on funding for many of us but if you can >>>> give an indication that would be great. >>>> >>>> Looking forward to hearing from you! >>>> >>>> Best >>>> Sheetal >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> *Sheetal Kumar* >>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL >>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL >>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514 | >>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603 >>>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31| >>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> To unsubscribe: >>>> List help: >>>> >>>> --- >>>> To unsubscribe: >>>> List help: >>>> --- >>>> To unsubscribe: >>>> List help: >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos * >>> >>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos >>> @boomartins >>> >> --- >> To unsubscribe: >> List help: >> > > > -- > > > *Sheetal Kumar* > Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL > Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL > T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514 | > PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603 > DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31| > > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org Tue Sep 24 14:58:12 2019 From: JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org (=?UTF-8?Q?Jean_F=2E_Qu=C3=A9ralt?=) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 02:58:12 +0800 Subject: [governance] IGF 2019 Civil society pre-event: planning and preparation In-Reply-To: References: <434332890.1489738.1568540267110@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi all, +1 Ethics (specially concerned on the area of Computer Science academia) +1 HLP DigiCoop report in the context Nnenna mentions Best, Jean On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 12:59 AM Sheetal Kumar wrote: > Dear all, > > Thanks for these inputs! > > So far I've got that people are interested in discussing the following > topics: 1) cybercrime 2) ethics 3) sustainability. > > I suggest we together a small working group who has the capacity to steer > the organisation of the session in an inclusive way. If you're interested > in being part of that, if you could email Bruna and I we'll start a > dedicated thread to support the organisation of the event. The smaller > group will liaise with everyone once we have some initial ideas to propose > on how to organise the event. > > Hope that's ok? > > Best > Sheetal > > On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 16:22, "Michael J. Oghia" < > governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: > >> Hi Bruna, all: >> >> Thanks for looping me in. I've been hoping for some time that more people >> throughout the IG community would see the value in discussing climate >> change and sustainability as it relates to our work. Indeed, many different >> groups and initiatives are working on it, albeit across sectors and >> stakeholder groups. >> >> It's a massive problem – and it's not just data centers, it's literally >> everything you can think of as it relates to technology. While Internet >> governance tends (or at least tries) to limit itself to discussions about >> processes or what's *on* the Internet, the fact is there are multiple >> ways that the IG community could address sustainability more broadly (see >> the EuroDIG 2017 session I >> organised, for instance). >> >> At the same time, IRPC is really spearheading this at the moment. I think >> it's more prudent to join with them in support to address how climate >> change and sustainability are, at the very core, human rights issues, as >> well as to limit redundancy. Instead of briefing everyone on the issue, for >> example, I'd happily give a webinar to anyone interested about the >> interconnections (but I've also written extensively about it). >> >> My suggestion is to support IRPC and leave the CS pre-event to strategy >> or another topic that isn't covered at all by the IGF (the workshops have a >> rather narrow focus this year, to put it diplomatic terms). >> >> Best, >> -Michael >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 3:02 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos < >> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Dear Sheetal, >>> >>> Maybe its worth considering a discussion on climate change and Internet >>> Governance to our day zero meeting. This is something thats been discussed >>> at a different thread set at NCSG mailing list, but there seems to be some >>> interest to facilitate a discussion on these lines at the igf and even >>> require some policy outcome that would look to the matter. >>> >>> @Michael Oghia and @Nick Shorey Lists >>> have been starting this conversation at the NSCG >>> mailing list and I am cc'ing them here! >>> >>> Best, >>> Bruna >>> >>> Le dim. 15 sept. 2019 à 06:38, Amali De Silva < >>> governance at lists.riseup.net> a écrit : >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Please include the teaching of ethics in a globally connected society >>>> … right thought for right action is never out of fashion , right >>>> planning for best action is good risk management … right attitude and >>>> compassion for human care …. >>>> Amali De SIlva-Mitchell >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On ‎Friday‎, ‎September‎ ‎13‎, ‎2019‎ ‎08‎:‎38‎:‎41‎ ‎AM‎ ‎PDT, Remmy >>>> Nweke wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Sheetal >>>> This is great thought. >>>> Although not sure of attending yet, I will like to be part of the >>>> planning team. >>>> Will like also to see issues on "Stereotyping of Cyber Crime and >>>> Effects on Developing Economies and Role of Civil Society." >>>> Regards >>>> Remmy >>>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 12:57 AM Sheetal Kumar >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear all, >>>> >>>> I'm getting in touch here about planning one of the civil society >>>> pre-events to the IGF session. It's called "Civil society coordination >>>> meeting (Global Partners Digital)" in the schedule but it is *not *a >>>> GPD event. I just applied for it, that's all. It's an event open to all >>>> civil society, and I would suggest that members of IGC should be actively >>>> involved in shaping its agenda. It's been moved to from to 13.30 - 15.30 >>>> pm following a request from the IGF Secretariat. >>>> >>>> When a few of us met on the sidelines of RightsCon earlier this year we >>>> suggested that the event could focus on sharing updates on key global >>>> processes and perhaps planning for how to input into them e.g: the High >>>> Level Panel, the UN First Committee processes on cyber and any others. And >>>> we could also discuss any matters pertaining to the IGC. >>>> >>>> As such, I would be grateful if you could share your views on the >>>> following >>>> >>>> - What topics and/or forums should we discuss at the civil society >>>> pre-event? >>>> - Would you like to discuss any topics related to IGC specifically? >>>> - How should we discuss these topics (presentations, or just open >>>> discussions) bearing in mind we have only 2 hours? >>>> - What outcome would you like to see from the pre-event? >>>> - Would you like to be involved in planning the event (this will >>>> require a dedication of a few hours over the next two months, I can't say >>>> how much) >>>> >>>> It would also be great if you could let me know if you're planning to >>>> be there. I know this is dependent on funding for many of us but if you can >>>> give an indication that would be great. >>>> >>>> Looking forward to hearing from you! >>>> >>>> Best >>>> Sheetal >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> *Sheetal Kumar* >>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL >>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL >>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514 | >>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603 >>>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31| >>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> To unsubscribe: >>>> List help: >>>> >>>> --- >>>> To unsubscribe: >>>> List help: >>>> --- >>>> To unsubscribe: >>>> List help: >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos * >>> >>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos >>> @boomartins >>> >> --- >> To unsubscribe: >> List help: >> > > > -- > > > *Sheetal Kumar* > Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL > Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL > T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514 | > PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603 > DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31| > > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Tue Sep 24 15:27:11 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Imran Ahmed Shah (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 19:27:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Elections 2019 - RESULTS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <674665112.6137565.1569353231257@mail.yahoo.com> Dear Colleagues at IGC,  First of all I would like to say "Thanks" to The Returning Officers (Ian and Tapani)  for organizing the whole Election Process neutrally, with keen interest, and effort from scrutinization of Eligible Voters, implementation of Election SW, Testing of Voting system, conducting elections and finally announcement of results.  Secondly, I would like to say many congratulations to the elected coordinators Bruna and Sheetal.  Thirdly, I would like to say "Thanks" especially to those members who have trust on me, who nominated, supported and voted me. (almost one third voting members..  I will continue supporting the organization of IGC CS, the website maintenance, and Public Policy Advocacy on IG related issues. If I will have continued support from your side, my next agenda item will be "proposing necessary ammendment" in the document of IGC Charter and Bylaws.  I will update election results on the IGC website as soon as received an approved version of final statement/ contents material from the Coordinators. (Coordinators will also have to finalize the decision of publishing voting members; "details or simply the names" on the IGC website) .  Once again Thanking you and Best Regards  Imran Ahmed Shah On Tuesday, 24 September 2019, 17:42:44 GMT+5, Ian Peter wrote: We are pleased to announce the resultsof the IGC Coordinator Elections, which closed on September 23. The final votes were Bruna Martins dos Santos – 89 votes Sheetal Kumar – 79 votes Imran Ahmed Shah – 51 votes We therefore declare Bruna Martins dosSantos elected for a two year term, and Sheetal Kumar for a one yearterm. Congratulations to all the candidates and thanks for offeringtheir services. Terms of office start now. As a result of the elections, 148 people have declared themselves to be members of the Civil SocietyInternet Governance Caucus: this includes 12 who chose to vote “None of theAbove”. The list of members is now available at https://igcaucus.org/igc-members-september-2019/ Further details on the election processappear below. ELECTION PROCESS This election had to deal with theunusual circumstance of electing two Coordinators, because of delaysin holding previous elections. The results get IGC back on trackwhere elections become an annual event to elect one Cordinator, whowill work with the ongoing Cordinator who has not completed theirterm. A total of 663 invitations to vote weresent: this was the total of email addresses which had been on the IGCmailing list for more than 2 months. Of this total, 148 voted: thiswas in line with or above expectations, as many people on the list donot identify as civil society members but have an interest ininternet governance and like to follow activities here (and otherschoose to have more than one email address on list). By comparison,the number of voters in the last election where there was more thanone candidate and a vote took place was only 99. LimeSurvey software was used andadopted for election purposes. We wish to acknowledge the help of asmall group of testers who helped us to refine the software –Norbert Bollow, Farzaneh Badii, Deirdre Williams, Peter AkinremiTaiwo, Arsene Tungali, and Chris Prince UdochukwuNjọkụ. Invitations to vote were sent onSeptember 11. A follow up email to those who had not yet voted wassent on September 18. Other reminders were posted on the IGC Caucusmailing list. Voting closed on September 23. The mailing process resulted in 14bounced emails, including 7 auto responses indicating that themailing address was no longer in use: these will be referred to theincoming coordinators to refine the list. One person accidentally voted twiceusing separate emails. One of these votes was eliminated. The software required people to confirmtheir eligibility to vote by answering four basic questions: a. that they identify as a member ofcivil society b. that they have been subscribed toIGC mailing list for more than 2 months c. that they accept the IGC Charter d. that they have not already voted inthis election (perhaps utilising another email address) In addition to the 148 people whocompleted the voting process, an additional 39 people who hadcommenced the process determined not to continue before reaching thevoting page. The system was not preferential. Allvotes for all candidates were of equal value. All in all, we believe the process wentsmoothly, drew a good level of participation, and helped strengthenIGC. This would not have happened without the strong groundswell ofinvolvement from many people, reflected in the level of participationin voting and the overall interest in seeing this occur in a timelyfashion. It also could not have happened without the strongpreliminary work of the Tech Team, led by Imran Ahmed Shah, whichrestored the website of IGC, creating the basic infrastructure thatallowed us to develop a voting system and conduct this exercise. Theyalso deserve your thanks. As determined in discussions includingwith the previous Coordinator, voting totals for each candidate havebeen released, as well as names of all those who voted and thereforeare now members of IGC. In line with general privacy and GDPRprovisions, other details of voters (email addresses etc) will not bereleased, not will details of who voted for which candidates. Thedetailed voting slips will be kept for a period of three months, orlonger if necessary to resolve any appeals, and will then be erased.The core of the voting software will be retained for possible futureuse. Ian Peter and Tapani Tarvainen Returning Officers --- To unsubscribe: List help: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Tue Sep 24 15:27:53 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Kossi Amessinou (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 20:27:53 +0100 Subject: [governance] IGF 2019 Civil society pre-event: planning and preparation In-Reply-To: References: <434332890.1489738.1568540267110@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Dear all, This charter is important for all but we can put also the african declaration (FR , EN ) on the table. Thank you. Le mar. 24 sept. 2019 à 18:56, Nnenna Nwakanma a écrit : > I think the UN High-Level Panel Report on Digital Cooperation should be > on the agenda. Not just feedback on the report, but anticipating CS > engagement going forward. > Following the Christchurch call a Charter > > was launched. I have also copied and posted what I think is an important > Declaration of key governments. Simply put, we need to discuss how we > respond to internet governance legislation and regulatory moves across the > world. > > If all goes as planned, I will be in Berlin > > Best > > N > ------ Forwarded Message -------- > > The following text is a joint statement affirmed by these countries: > Australia, Belgium, Canada, Colombia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, > Finland, France, Germany, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Japan, Latvia, > Lithuania, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, the Republic of > Korea, Romania, Slovakia, Spain, Sweden, the United Kingdom, and the United > States. > > Begin Text: > > Joint Statement on Advancing Responsible State Behavior in Cyberspace > > Information technology is transforming modern life, driving innovation and > productivity, facilitating the sharing of ideas, of cultures, and promoting > free expression. Its benefits have brought the global community closer > together than ever before in history. Even as we recognize the myriad > benefits that cyberspace has brought to our citizens and strive to ensure > that humanity can continue to reap its benefits, a challenge to this vision > has emerged. State and non-state actors are using cyberspace increasingly > as a platform for irresponsible behavior from which to target critical > infrastructure and our citizens, undermine democracies and international > institutions and organizations, and undercut fair competition in our global > economy by stealing ideas when they cannot create them. > > Over the past decade, the international community has made clear that the > international rules-based order should guide state behavior in cyberspace. > UN member states have increasingly coalesced around an evolving framework > of responsible state behavior in cyberspace (framework), which supports the > international rules-based order, affirms the applicability of international > law to state-on-state behavior, adherence to voluntary norms of responsible > state behavior in peacetime, and the development and implementation of > practical confidence building measures to help reduce the risk of conflict > stemming from cyber incidents. All members of the United Nations General > Assembly have repeatedly affirmed this framework, articulated in three > successive UN Groups of Governmental Experts reports in 2010, 2013, and > 2015. > > We underscore our commitment to uphold the international rules-based order > and encourage its adherence, implementation, and further development, > including at the ongoing UN negotiations of the Open Ended Working Group > and Group of Governmental Experts. We support targeted cybersecurity > capacity building to ensure that all responsible states can implement this > framework and better protect their networks from significant disruptive, > destructive, or otherwise destabilizing cyber activity. We reiterate that > human rights apply and must be respected and protected by states online, as > well as offline, including when addressing cybersecurity. > > As responsible states that uphold the international rules-based order, we > recognize our role in safeguarding the benefits of a free, open, and secure > cyberspace for future generations. When necessary, we will work together on > a voluntary basis to hold states accountable when they act contrary to this > framework, including by taking measures that are transparent and consistent > with international law. There must be consequences for bad behavior in > cyberspace. > > We call on all states to support the evolving framework and to join with > us to ensure greater accountability and stability in cyberspace. > > End Text > > For further information, please contact the Office of the Coordinator for > Cyber Issues at SCCI_Press at state.gov. > > > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 4:59 PM Sheetal Kumar > wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> Thanks for these inputs! >> >> So far I've got that people are interested in discussing the following >> topics: 1) cybercrime 2) ethics 3) sustainability. >> >> I suggest we together a small working group who has the capacity to steer >> the organisation of the session in an inclusive way. If you're interested >> in being part of that, if you could email Bruna and I we'll start a >> dedicated thread to support the organisation of the event. The smaller >> group will liaise with everyone once we have some initial ideas to propose >> on how to organise the event. >> >> Hope that's ok? >> >> Best >> Sheetal >> >> On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 16:22, "Michael J. Oghia" < >> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: >> >>> Hi Bruna, all: >>> >>> Thanks for looping me in. I've been hoping for some time that more >>> people throughout the IG community would see the value in discussing >>> climate change and sustainability as it relates to our work. Indeed, many >>> different groups and initiatives are working on it, albeit across sectors >>> and stakeholder groups. >>> >>> It's a massive problem – and it's not just data centers, it's literally >>> everything you can think of as it relates to technology. While Internet >>> governance tends (or at least tries) to limit itself to discussions about >>> processes or what's *on* the Internet, the fact is there are multiple >>> ways that the IG community could address sustainability more broadly (see >>> the EuroDIG 2017 session I >>> organised, for instance). >>> >>> At the same time, IRPC is really spearheading this at the moment. I >>> think it's more prudent to join with them in support to address how climate >>> change and sustainability are, at the very core, human rights issues, as >>> well as to limit redundancy. Instead of briefing everyone on the issue, for >>> example, I'd happily give a webinar to anyone interested about the >>> interconnections (but I've also written extensively about it). >>> >>> My suggestion is to support IRPC and leave the CS pre-event to strategy >>> or another topic that isn't covered at all by the IGF (the workshops have a >>> rather narrow focus this year, to put it diplomatic terms). >>> >>> Best, >>> -Michael >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 3:02 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos < >>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Sheetal, >>>> >>>> Maybe its worth considering a discussion on climate change and Internet >>>> Governance to our day zero meeting. This is something thats been discussed >>>> at a different thread set at NCSG mailing list, but there seems to be some >>>> interest to facilitate a discussion on these lines at the igf and even >>>> require some policy outcome that would look to the matter. >>>> >>>> @Michael Oghia and @Nick Shorey Lists >>>> have been starting this conversation at the >>>> NSCG mailing list and I am cc'ing them here! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Bruna >>>> >>>> Le dim. 15 sept. 2019 à 06:38, Amali De Silva < >>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> a écrit : >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Please include the teaching of ethics in a globally connected society >>>>> … right thought for right action is never out of fashion , right >>>>> planning for best action is good risk management … right attitude and >>>>> compassion for human care …. >>>>> Amali De SIlva-Mitchell >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On ‎Friday‎, ‎September‎ ‎13‎, ‎2019‎ ‎08‎:‎38‎:‎41‎ ‎AM‎ ‎PDT, Remmy >>>>> Nweke wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Sheetal >>>>> This is great thought. >>>>> Although not sure of attending yet, I will like to be part of the >>>>> planning team. >>>>> Will like also to see issues on "Stereotyping of Cyber Crime and >>>>> Effects on Developing Economies and Role of Civil Society." >>>>> Regards >>>>> Remmy >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 12:57 AM Sheetal Kumar >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dear all, >>>>> >>>>> I'm getting in touch here about planning one of the civil society >>>>> pre-events to the IGF session. It's called "Civil society coordination >>>>> meeting (Global Partners Digital)" in the schedule but it is *not *a >>>>> GPD event. I just applied for it, that's all. It's an event open to all >>>>> civil society, and I would suggest that members of IGC should be actively >>>>> involved in shaping its agenda. It's been moved to from to 13.30 - 15.30 >>>>> pm following a request from the IGF Secretariat. >>>>> >>>>> When a few of us met on the sidelines of RightsCon earlier this year >>>>> we suggested that the event could focus on sharing updates on key global >>>>> processes and perhaps planning for how to input into them e.g: the High >>>>> Level Panel, the UN First Committee processes on cyber and any others. And >>>>> we could also discuss any matters pertaining to the IGC. >>>>> >>>>> As such, I would be grateful if you could share your views on the >>>>> following >>>>> >>>>> - What topics and/or forums should we discuss at the civil society >>>>> pre-event? >>>>> - Would you like to discuss any topics related to IGC specifically? >>>>> - How should we discuss these topics (presentations, or just open >>>>> discussions) bearing in mind we have only 2 hours? >>>>> - What outcome would you like to see from the pre-event? >>>>> - Would you like to be involved in planning the event (this will >>>>> require a dedication of a few hours over the next two months, I can't say >>>>> how much) >>>>> >>>>> It would also be great if you could let me know if you're planning to >>>>> be there. I know this is dependent on funding for many of us but if you can >>>>> give an indication that would be great. >>>>> >>>>> Looking forward to hearing from you! >>>>> >>>>> Best >>>>> Sheetal >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Sheetal Kumar* >>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL >>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL >>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514 | >>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603 >>>>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31| >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> To unsubscribe: >>>>> List help: >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> To unsubscribe: >>>>> List help: >>>>> --- >>>>> To unsubscribe: >>>>> List help: >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos * >>>> >>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos >>>> @boomartins >>>> >>> --- >>> To unsubscribe: >>> List help: >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> *Sheetal Kumar* >> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL >> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL >> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514 | >> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603 >> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31| >> >> >> --- >> To unsubscribe: >> List help: >> > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -- Dr AMESSINOU Kossi Docteur en Sciences de l'Information et de la Communication Téléphone: +229 95 19 67 02 Whatsapp: +229 99 38 98 17 Boîte Postale: 01BP7304 Cotonou - Bénin Emails: kossi.amessinou at fgi.bj kamessinou at gouv.bj amessinoukossi at gmail.com skype: amessinou | @amessinou | @bigf http://www.facebook.com/amessinoukossi | www.linkedin.com/pub/kossi-amessinou Que Dieu vous bénisse | Dans le silence, Dieu nous parle! 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Thank you also to Imran for all his work already with the closure of Bestbits and the restoration of the IGC website, and to the Returning Officers Ian and Tapani for running the election process so smoothly and transparently. Bruna and I will be in touch shortly, once we've had a chance to converse! In the short term, we'll be helping to organise the IGF day 0 event in Berlin. I've started a separate thread on this list to support the organisation of that and I hope many of us will be able to make it! BestSheetal. On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 15:42, Chris Prince Udochukwu Njọkụ wrote: This noble job had been superlatively done.  The enthusiasm and commitment displayed by everyone toward the expected new IGC is exemplary and worth upholding, indeed. My two thumps are up. Chris Prince Udochukwu Njọkụ, Ph.D.Computer Communications CentreUniversity of Nigeria, Nsukka 410001 at DrCPUNjoku  We mustn't remain with old ways of doing things, especially if they're not yielding optimum results. On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 2:27 PM Judith Hellerstein wrote: Ian and Tapani Thanks so much for all your hard work and for your detailed explanations and voting information.  I found this email very helpful and explanatory. Congrats to the newly appointed leaders Bruna and Sheetal. Thanks to Imran for his participation ad efforts in this election. Looking forward to your leadership Best, Judith _________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517 E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide On 9/24/2019 8:42 AM, Ian Peter wrote: We are pleased to announce the results of the IGC Coordinator Elections, which closed on September 23. The final votes were Bruna Martins dos Santos – 89 votes Sheetal Kumar – 79 votes Imran Ahmed Shah – 51 votes We therefore declare Bruna Martins dos Santos elected for a two year term, and Sheetal Kumar for a one year term. Congratulations to all the candidates and thanks for offering their services. Terms of office start now. As a result of the elections, 148 people have declared themselves to be members of the Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus: this includes 12 who chose to vote “None of the Above”. The list of members is now available at https://igcaucus.org/igc-members-september-2019/ Further details on the election process appear below. ELECTION PROCESS This election had to deal with the unusual circumstance of electing two Coordinators, because of delays in holding previous elections. The results get IGC back on track where elections become an annual event to elect one Cordinator, who will work with the ongoing Cordinator who has not completed their term. A total of 663 invitations to vote were sent: this was the total of email addresses which had been on the IGC mailing list for more than 2 months. Of this total, 148 voted: this was in line with or above expectations, as many people on the list do not identify as civil society members but have an interest in internet governance and like to follow activities here (and others choose to have more than one email address on list). By comparison, the number of voters in the last election where there was more than one candidate and a vote took place was only 99. LimeSurvey software was used and adopted for election purposes. We wish to acknowledge the help of a small group of testers who helped us to refine the software – Norbert Bollow, Farzaneh Badii, Deirdre Williams, Peter Akinremi Taiwo, Arsene Tungali, and Chris Prince Udochukwu Njọkụ. Invitations to vote were sent on September 11. A follow up email to those who had not yet voted was sent on September 18. Other reminders were posted on the IGC Caucus mailing list. Voting closed on September 23. The mailing process resulted in 14 bounced emails, including 7 auto responses indicating that the mailing address was no longer in use: these will be referred to the incoming coordinators to refine the list. One person accidentally voted twice using separate emails. One of these votes was eliminated. The software required people to confirm their eligibility to vote by answering four basic questions: a. that they identify as a member of civil society b. that they have been subscribed to IGC mailing list for more than 2 months c. that they accept the IGC Charter d. that they have not already voted in this election (perhaps utilising another email address) In addition to the 148 people who completed the voting process, an additional 39 people who had commenced the process determined not to continue before reaching the voting page. The system was not preferential. All votes for all candidates were of equal value. All in all, we believe the process went smoothly, drew a good level of participation, and helped strengthen IGC. This would not have happened without the strong groundswell of involvement from many people, reflected in the level of participation in voting and the overall interest in seeing this occur in a timely fashion. It also could not have happened without the strong preliminary work of the Tech Team, led by Imran Ahmed Shah, which restored the website of IGC, creating the basic infrastructure that allowed us to develop a voting system and conduct this exercise. They also deserve your thanks. As determined in discussions including with the previous Coordinator, voting totals for each candidate have been released, as well as names of all those who voted and therefore are now members of IGC. In line with general privacy and GDPR provisions, other details of voters (email addresses etc) will not be released, not will details of who voted for which candidates. The detailed voting slips will be kept for a period of three months, or longer if necessary to resolve any appeals, and will then be erased. The core of the voting software will be retained for possible future use. Ian Peter and Tapani Tarvainen Returning Officers --- To unsubscribe: List help: --- To unsubscribe: List help: --- To unsubscribe: List help: -- Sheetal KumarProgramme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITALSecond Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JLT: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  | PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31| --- To unsubscribe: List help: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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ISOC Live posted: "The Kenya Human Rights Commission (KHRC), the Nubian Rights Forum and the Kenya National Commission on Human Rights (KNHCR) in Kenya have gone to court to challenge the implementation of the National Integrated Management System (NIIMs), aka Huduma Namba," [image: livestream] The *Kenya Human Rights Commission * (KHRC), the* Nubian Rights Forum * and the *Kenya National Commission on Human Rights * (KNHCR) in Kenya have gone to court to challenge the implementation of the *National Integrated Management System * (NIIMs), aka *Huduma Namba*, in light of the fact that requisite data protection legislation does not exist. The petitioners argue that the system will create a fertile ground for mass surveillance and will infringe on the right to privacy for citizens since some of the data collected is unnecessary. NIIMs is similar to the *Aadhaar * system in India. Today, *Wednesday 24 September 2019*, is Day 3 of the court hearing. *VIEW ON LIVESTREAM: https://livestream.com/internetsociety2/hudumanamba * *VIEW ON FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/pg/thekhrc/videos/ * *TWITTER" #hudumanamba https://bit.ly/hudumanamba * *Permalink* https://isoc.live/11364/ - -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From governance at lists.riseup.net Wed Sep 25 09:02:07 2019 From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Jacob Odame-Baiden (via governance Mailing List)) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 13:02:07 +0000 Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Elections 2019 - RESULTS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Congratulations to all of you! On Tue, 24 Sep 2019, 12:42 Ian Peter, wrote: > We are pleased to announce the results of the IGC Coordinator Elections, > which closed on September 23. > > The final votes were > > > Bruna Martins dos Santos – 89 votes > > Sheetal Kumar – 79 votes > > Imran Ahmed Shah – 51 votes > > > We therefore declare Bruna Martins dos Santos elected for a two year term, > and Sheetal Kumar for a one year term. Congratulations to all the > candidates and thanks for offering their services. Terms of office start > now. > > As a result of the elections, 148 people have declared themselves to be > members of the Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus: this includes 12 > who chose to vote “None of the Above”. The list of members is now available > at https://igcaucus.org/igc-members-september-2019/ > > Further details on the election process appear below. > > ELECTION PROCESS > > This election had to deal with the unusual circumstance of electing two > Coordinators, because of delays in holding previous elections. The results > get IGC back on track where elections become an annual event to elect one > Cordinator, who will work with the ongoing Cordinator who has not completed > their term. > > A total of 663 invitations to vote were sent: this was the total of email > addresses which had been on the IGC mailing list for more than 2 months. Of > this total, 148 voted: this was in line with or above expectations, as many > people on the list do not identify as civil society members but have an > interest in internet governance and like to follow activities here (and > others choose to have more than one email address on list). By comparison, > the number of voters in the last election where there was more than one > candidate and a vote took place was only 99. > > LimeSurvey software was used and adopted for election purposes. We wish to > acknowledge the help of a small group of testers who helped us to refine > the software – Norbert Bollow, Farzaneh Badii, Deirdre Williams, Peter > Akinremi Taiwo, Arsene Tungali, and Chris Prince Udochukwu Njọkụ. > > Invitations to vote were sent on September 11. A follow up email to those > who had not yet voted was sent on September 18. Other reminders were posted > on the IGC Caucus mailing list. Voting closed on September 23. > > The mailing process resulted in 14 bounced emails, including 7 auto > responses indicating that the mailing address was no longer in use: these > will be referred to the incoming coordinators to refine the list. > > One person accidentally voted twice using separate emails. One of these > votes was eliminated. > > The software required people to confirm their eligibility to vote by > answering four basic questions: > > a. that they identify as a member of civil society > > b. that they have been subscribed to IGC mailing list for more than 2 > months > > c. that they accept the IGC Charter > > d. that they have not already voted in this election (perhaps utilising > another email address) > > In addition to the 148 people who completed the voting process, an > additional 39 people who had commenced the process determined not to > continue before reaching the voting page. > > The system was not preferential. All votes for all candidates were of > equal value. > > All in all, we believe the process went smoothly, drew a good level of > participation, and helped strengthen IGC. This would not have happened > without the strong groundswell of involvement from many people, reflected > in the level of participation in voting and the overall interest in seeing > this occur in a timely fashion. It also could not have happened without the > strong preliminary work of the Tech Team, led by Imran Ahmed Shah, which > restored the website of IGC, creating the basic infrastructure that allowed > us to develop a voting system and conduct this exercise. They also deserve > your thanks. > > As determined in discussions including with the previous Coordinator, > voting totals for each candidate have been released, as well as names of > all those who voted and therefore are now members of IGC. In line with > general privacy and GDPR provisions, other details of voters (email > addresses etc) will not be released, not will details of who voted for > which candidates. The detailed voting slips will be kept for a period of > three months, or longer if necessary to resolve any appeals, and will then > be erased. The core of the voting software will be retained for possible > future use. > > > Ian Peter and Tapani Tarvainen > > Returning Officers > > > > > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From peter at accessnow.org Wed Sep 25 09:05:25 2019 From: peter at accessnow.org (Peter Micek) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 16:05:25 +0300 Subject: [governance] IGC Coordinator Elections 2019 - RESULTS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Agreed, congratulations to Bruna and Sheetal, and thank you Imran for running and continuing this important work! Peter On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 4:02 PM Jacob Odame-Baiden < governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote: > Congratulations to all of you! > > On Tue, 24 Sep 2019, 12:42 Ian Peter, wrote: > >> We are pleased to announce the results of the IGC Coordinator Elections, >> which closed on September 23. >> >> The final votes were >> >> >> Bruna Martins dos Santos – 89 votes >> >> Sheetal Kumar – 79 votes >> >> Imran Ahmed Shah – 51 votes >> >> >> We therefore declare Bruna Martins dos Santos elected for a two year >> term, and Sheetal Kumar for a one year term. Congratulations to all the >> candidates and thanks for offering their services. Terms of office start >> now. >> >> As a result of the elections, 148 people have declared themselves to be >> members of the Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus: this includes 12 >> who chose to vote “None of the Above”. The list of members is now available >> at https://igcaucus.org/igc-members-september-2019/ >> >> Further details on the election process appear below. >> >> ELECTION PROCESS >> >> This election had to deal with the unusual circumstance of electing two >> Coordinators, because of delays in holding previous elections. The results >> get IGC back on track where elections become an annual event to elect one >> Cordinator, who will work with the ongoing Cordinator who has not completed >> their term. >> >> A total of 663 invitations to vote were sent: this was the total of email >> addresses which had been on the IGC mailing list for more than 2 months. Of >> this total, 148 voted: this was in line with or above expectations, as many >> people on the list do not identify as civil society members but have an >> interest in internet governance and like to follow activities here (and >> others choose to have more than one email address on list). By comparison, >> the number of voters in the last election where there was more than one >> candidate and a vote took place was only 99. >> >> LimeSurvey software was used and adopted for election purposes. We wish >> to acknowledge the help of a small group of testers who helped us to refine >> the software – Norbert Bollow, Farzaneh Badii, Deirdre Williams, Peter >> Akinremi Taiwo, Arsene Tungali, and Chris Prince Udochukwu Njọkụ. >> >> Invitations to vote were sent on September 11. A follow up email to those >> who had not yet voted was sent on September 18. Other reminders were posted >> on the IGC Caucus mailing list. Voting closed on September 23. >> >> The mailing process resulted in 14 bounced emails, including 7 auto >> responses indicating that the mailing address was no longer in use: these >> will be referred to the incoming coordinators to refine the list. >> >> One person accidentally voted twice using separate emails. One of these >> votes was eliminated. >> >> The software required people to confirm their eligibility to vote by >> answering four basic questions: >> >> a. that they identify as a member of civil society >> >> b. that they have been subscribed to IGC mailing list for more than 2 >> months >> >> c. that they accept the IGC Charter >> >> d. that they have not already voted in this election (perhaps utilising >> another email address) >> >> In addition to the 148 people who completed the voting process, an >> additional 39 people who had commenced the process determined not to >> continue before reaching the voting page. >> >> The system was not preferential. All votes for all candidates were of >> equal value. >> >> All in all, we believe the process went smoothly, drew a good level of >> participation, and helped strengthen IGC. This would not have happened >> without the strong groundswell of involvement from many people, reflected >> in the level of participation in voting and the overall interest in seeing >> this occur in a timely fashion. It also could not have happened without the >> strong preliminary work of the Tech Team, led by Imran Ahmed Shah, which >> restored the website of IGC, creating the basic infrastructure that allowed >> us to develop a voting system and conduct this exercise. They also deserve >> your thanks. >> >> As determined in discussions including with the previous Coordinator, >> voting totals for each candidate have been released, as well as names of >> all those who voted and therefore are now members of IGC. In line with >> general privacy and GDPR provisions, other details of voters (email >> addresses etc) will not be released, not will details of who voted for >> which candidates. The detailed voting slips will be kept for a period of >> three months, or longer if necessary to resolve any appeals, and will then >> be erased. The core of the voting software will be retained for possible >> future use. >> >> >> Ian Peter and Tapani Tarvainen >> >> Returning Officers >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> To unsubscribe: >> List help: >> > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > -- Peter Micek General Counsel Access Now | accessnow.org RightsCon | rightscon.org Pronouns: He/Him Tel: +1-888-414-0100 x709 PGP: 0xA5BD70B0 Fingerprint: 6CFE 8E9F ED8E 66B8 BE38 EA59 002C EEF5 A5BD 70B0 **Subscribe* to the Access Now Express < https://www.accessnow.org/express>, our weekly newsletter on digital rights -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: