[governance] Fwd: [Ext] Re: IGC Co-coordinators

Deirdre Williams williams.deirdre at gmail.com
Fri Jan 19 08:26:10 EST 2018


In light of  the message from Bestbits that I just forwarded, and for the
benefit of more recent subscribers to the Internet Governance Caucus, I
think it is useful to remember how the IGC began, so I am forwarding a
message sent earlier this month by Wolfgang to the more limited group of
"friends of IGC" (for want of a better term) who were trying to retrieve
the IGC space.
Things change and evolve. For this to happen in a fair and balanced manner
ALL of the voices need to be equally and actively involved.
Deirdre

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From: "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" <
wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de>
Date: 3 January 2018 at 14:08
Subject: AW: [Ext] Re: IGC Co-coordinators
To: Adam Peake <adam.peake at icann.org>, Mawaki Chango <kichango at gmail.com>,
Vittorio Bertola <vb at bertola.eu>
Cc: Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com>, Deirdre Williams <
williams.deirdre at gmail.com>, Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>, "Salanieta
T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com>, Jeanette
Hofmann <jeanette.hofmann at wzb.eu>, Jeremy Malcolm <jmalcolm at eff.org>,
Akinremi Peter Taiwo <compsoftnet at gmail.com>, Bruna Martins dos Santos <
bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>, Izumi AIZU <iza at anr.org>, Jeanette Hofmann <
jeanette at wzb.eu>, "Doria, Avri" <avri at acm.org>, Anriette Esterhuysen <
anriette at apc.org>, Ginger Paque <gpaque at gmail.com>, Analia Aspis <
analia.aspis at gmail.com>, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch>, Parminder <
parminder at itforchange.net>, YJ Park <yjpark21 at gmail.com>


Hi,

the IGC was founded on February, 21, 2003, just after the end of workshop 3
(see attachment) .  Some ot the partiicpants went to the Cafeteria in the
ILO Building. At this time CS did not have a "strcuture" as a WSIS
stakeholder group. Just two days before February 21, 2003, on Wednesday
February 19th, there was another meeting in the ITU building where Alain
and Louise Lassounde pushed for the formation of a CS WSIS bureau. Alain
and Louise had the mandate from the inergovernmental WSIS bureau to
organize CS participation in the WSIS process. For the formation of the CS
breau they used a structure proposed by a working paper from an UN
subcommittee which worked together with the Cardozo-Commission. In this
paper there was a list with about a dozen groups which could be considered
as "representatives of CS", which inlcuded trade unions, academic and
philantropic institutions, local authorities, human rights groups and
others. I became a member of the bureau on behalf of the "philantrpoic and
academic institutions". At this moment, there was no CS plenary and no CS
Content & Themes Group. Some working groups on media, education, human
rights, gender existed. But there was nothing for IG. One of the main roles
of the CS bureau  was to organize sponsorship for CS participation in WSIS
meetings. It was clear that the bureau, chaired by Renata Bloem from CONGO,
had no role to play with rergard to substance. Substance was in the hands
of the CS Plenary and CS C&T (with its WGs).

Back to Friday, February 21st, 2003. I reported back from the first Bureau
meeting and proposed to establish an own unit for IG (in the light of the
discussion of the WS III). There was generally support. YJ introduced some
additional ideas and we agreed to form not a CS IG working group but CS "IG
Caucus". The inspiration for the name came from the US Congress which
founded in 1996 a "Congressional Internet Caucus"   (
http://www.netcaucus.org/about/  )

YJ and I (gender and geographical balance) were electd as co-chairs. Hans,
Karen, Bill and others started immediately with drafting a first workplan
and with the creation on an e-mail list (hosted by CPSR). With other words,
Adams memory is correct. It needed less than four weeks to get started. The
first real activities took place during the Paris Intersessional where we
were well positioned and made statemens in Plenary sessions inter alia
rejecting the idea of an intergovernmental Internet treaty but proposing a
“Global Information Society Observation Council” which could serve as a
meeting point for improved coordination, consultation and communication on
ICT issues".  This was the starting point for a discussion which - via the
push of civil society members in the WGIG (Bill, Karen, Avri, Peng Hwa,
Carlos etc.) in 2004 and 2005 finally ended in the creation of the IGF.
With other words, the IGC is the real father of the IGF.

In Geneva in December 2003, YJ and I handed to co-chairmanship over to
Jeanette and Adam.

best wishes

Wolfgang



The first email to governance at lists.cpsr.org I can find was sent on Mon, 31
Mar 2003 12:17:09 -0800, from yjpark at myepark.com (thanks YJ :-))

Hans was the connection to CPSR which hosted the first list, on 3/19/03 he
said he'd set up a list.  Karen Banks sent an email on 3/29/03 saying we
were just about to announce the creation of a new [IG] list.  31 March
looks like the probable start.  Hans may have records, and I think it still
at the same email address.

Hope this helps,

Adam



From: Mawaki Chango <kichango at gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, January 3, 2018 16:57
To: Vittorio Bertola <vb at bertola.eu>
Cc: Adam Peake <adam.peake at icann.org>, Arsène Tungali <
arsenebaguma at gmail.com>, Deirdre Williams <williams.deirdre at gmail.com>, Ian
Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>, "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" <
salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com>, Jeanette Hofmann <
jeanette.hofmann at wzb.eu>, Jeremy Malcolm <jmalcolm at eff.org>, Akinremi Peter
Taiwo <compsoftnet at gmail.com>, Bruna Martins dos Santos <
bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>, Izumi AIZU <iza at anr.org>, Jeanette Hofmann <
jeanette at wzb.eu>, "Doria, Avri" <avri at acm.org>, Anriette Esterhuysen <
anriette at apc.org>, Ginger Paque <gpaque at gmail.com>, Analia Aspis <
analia.aspis at gmail.com>, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch>, Parminder <
parminder at itforchange.net>, "wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de"
<wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de>, YJ Park <
yjpark21 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Ext] Re: IGC Co-coordinators



On Jan 3, 2018 14:37, "Vittorio Bertola" <vb at bertola.eu<mailto:vb at bertola.eu>>
wrote:

Il 2018-01-03 14:42 Adam Peake ha scritto:
Hi Arsene,

Thanks for the email.  Could you confirm if the mail archive has been lost
or not?

The archive is an important record of discussions about Internet
governance, WSIS (WGIG and all that).  Please let us know if the archive
has been saved.

I don't remember you reaching out, just a few emails to the list in
March/April last year about migrating the list.

I don't remember anything either, but in any case: if the server-side email
archive has been lost, it could still be possible to rebuild it from
people's archives. I, for example, keep in my mailbox all the email I
received since September 2003, so I could quite easily share the
(hopefully) complete list archive since that date (it's ~75.000 messages in
Maildir format, 1.7GB uncompressed - I stopped reading it long ago, but
unless I was silently unsubscribed I should still have received
everything). I think that a decently skilled sysadmin could find a way to
reinject those messages in the archives of whatever new listserver is
installed. Maybe there are other people who have even older message sets
(or I could have some older backups somewhere - when did the list actually
start to function?).

I believe the Caucus (thus, the IGC list) was created in 2003... unless it
was in the late 2002.
The first PrepComm was of the Africa region, somewhere in the second
trimester of 2002, if my memory is correct. Then we had another regional
one (Asia?) later that year. The thematic PrepComms got in full swing in
2003 (again possibly starting late 2002, speaking from the top of my head
here) and from my recollection  the Caucus was formed in the aftermath of
the one that took place in Paris (UNESCO) back then.

Adam or others could provide more references here or correct me.

Mawaki

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