From jnoulaye at gmail.com Tue Jan 31 20:29:02 2017 From: jnoulaye at gmail.com (Janvier NGNOULAYE) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 02:29:02 +0100 Subject: [governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter? In-Reply-To: <20170131203212.20daa396@quill> References: <20170130153646.1fbf78eb@quill> <20170131203212.20daa396@quill> Message-ID: Dear Arsène, Norbert, Mawaki I appreciate your enthusiasm in your role. You are no more human rights activist than we are, or even more open internet activist than we are in ISOC Cameroon Chapter. We volunteer each day to work to make the Internet as open and accessible as possible to our local population. I do not need to show out here on this platform the actions and projects achieved so far. So you must understand that, we can not endorse a privation of the Internet to our population for whom we promote the open access of the Internet. I regret that you have misunderstand some words of my first mail on the matter. I would like to thank you for your concern on the case of Cameroon and also thank you for the declarative solution approach you are currently proposing. However, note that: 1) Cameroon is in a situation of war against Boko Haram, 2) Cameroon is in a situation of war against the secessionists, who have at one time erected their flag inside one part of the territory, no one knows by who they are supported and financed. 3) the current socio-political context is complex, and adding to that, there is still a lack of knowledge for using Internet tools by a big part of the population. 4) facing all of that, the government has taken security measures in its own way, some may be considered unfair, but it is wise for us to try to seat with them, discuss and work for the better solution, because we think that they need to be sensitized and educated about the better used of the Internet technologies and policies. 5) In a situation of conflict and crisis in a given country, there will be no an universal solution as you tend to suggest from your respective offices. 6) I chaired the ISOC Cameroon General Annual Assembly on Saturday 28 January 2017, this issue was addressed. Not need to expose its minutes to you here. So If you really want to help, please check back your proposal. I wanted to appeal the Internet Community, those who made a phone call to us to encourage us, and all the others of the community, to keep trusting ISOC Cameroon Chapter, who is working hard on the field to solve the issue. Best regards. Janvier Ngnoulaye, Ph.D ICT Teacher at the University President of the ISOC Cameroon Chapter. Activist of "The Internet is for everyone" http://www.internetsociety.cm/ 2017-01-31 20:32 GMT+01:00 Norbert Bollow : > Dear Arsène and all > > Please find our proposal at > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pQjEQ5UtR4D7f0HYeJsK0upPKnJTE > yWULk-fUSajTd8/edit > > I'm also including the text below. > > Greetings, > Norbert > > > -- draft starts -- > To the ISOC Cameroon Chapter > > Dear Colleagues > > The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (IGC, http://igcaucus.org) > is a global network of civil society actors who originally came > together in the context of the World Summit on the Information Society > (WSIS) to promote global public interest objectives in Internet > governance policy making. > > We are firmly convinced that Internet shutdowns are not acceptable in > regard to any region and not justifiable in any way, and that such > shutdowns must be opposed vigorously. > > We would have expected everyone who associates themselves with ISOC to > be committed to ISOC's principle stating that “The Internet is for > Everyone”. > > For further elaboration of the important principle of /Internet access > and affordability/ along with related rights and freedoms, we refer to > the African Declaration on Internet Rights and Freedoms, > http://africaninternetrights.org/articles/ . > > In light of these principles and rights, we would like to respectfully > urge the ISOC Cameroon Chapter to adopt a corresponding strong stance > in regard to Internet shutdowns in some regions of the country, and to > denounce and oppose such dreadful measures with all earnestness. > > The reason why we write to you in this matter is a posting to our > mailing list on January 26, 2017, which was signed “ISOC Cameroon, > President” and which expressed views that were not at all consistent > with the above. > > Best regards > Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) > > > > Cc: ISOC’s regional contact for Africa, bekele at isoc.org > > -- draft ends -- > > > > > > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:54:30 +0200 > Arsène Tungali wrote: > > > Dear Norbert, > > > > Thanks for Mawaki and yourself for willing to take on this task. I am > > happy with the process as you suggest it (with the hope that everyone > > is happy as well): writing to ISOC Cameroon with cc to ISOC Global. > > > > Please do send us the draft once finalized and we will allow at least > > 24 hours for the IGC to comment before this can be sent. Please do > > share it in a Google Drive (do not allow edit by anyone but just > > allow people to make contributions in form of comments in the margins > > of the doc). > > > > Regards, > > A > > > > ------------------------ > > **Arsène Tungali** > > Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > > *, > > CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa > > Forum * > > Tel: +243 993810967 > > GPG: 523644A0 > > *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > > > > 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > > mandela-washington.html> > > (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > > leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf- > ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors> > > & Mexico > > leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>) > > - AFRISIG 2016 - > > Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > > & Marrakech > > attendees-2016-03-14-en> > > ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius > > fellowship-winners>)* > > - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK > > > > > > 2017-01-30 16:36 GMT+02:00 Norbert Bollow : > > > > > Dear Arsène and all > > > > > > After a quick exchange with Mawaki, I'm happy to report that Mawaki > > > and I are willing to work out a joint proposal. > > > > > > In regard to who the letter should be addressed to, Mawaki and I > > > think that the statement should be addressed to ISOC Cameroon. At > > > the most, we can cc ISOC Global for the record. As made clear in > > > the communication excerpts forwarded by Arsène, ISOC Global is > > > already taking action and Chapter office holders are volunteers who > > > are not bound to the organization by a required line of conduct as > > > would be expected from staff of ISOC Global. Therefore we cannot > > > reasonably hold the global organization accountable for any Chapter > > > official's position and put them in the position to be answerable > > > about it -- which will appear as being the case if we address a > > > letter to ISOC Global, -- especially when their response is already > > > known. > > > > > > We think that the statement should be short and narrowly focused, > > > and articulated on the basis of some basic principles which should > > > be sufficiently self-evident to not need any in-depth debate in IGC. > > > > > > You may expect us to post proposed text shortly. > > > > > > Greetings, > > > Norbert > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:02:56 +0200 > > > Arsène Tungali wrote: > > > > > > > Dear colleagues, > > > > > > > > Starting a new thread. > > > > > > > > I would like to thank everyone for raising your concern about > > > > what's going on in Cameroon which is just another country added > > > > to the list of African countries that have experienced Internet > > > > shutdown. I am from the DRC and we have experienced this more > > > > than 3 times and I am in the best position to highly condem this > > > > new form of oppression. > > > > > > > > I would also like to thank everyone who have expressed their > > > > concern over what Mr. Janvier had to say about the shutdown in > > > > his country, where he volunteerly serve as ISOC Cameroon > > > > President. I join you all and condemn his position on this, which > > > > I can assure you, is his own position, not shared by his other > > > > colleagues at theISOC Chapter. Proof is he reacted to his other > > > > colleague who had a different view and who was making an appeal, > > > > asking for more coverage and action regarding what's going on in > > > > his country. > > > > > > > > For your information, ISOC has issued a statement > > > > everyone?utm_content= > > > bufferc442c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_ > campaign=buffer> > > > > condemning the shutdown in Cameroon as well as in other countries. > > > > This show that ISOC, as an organization, does not support > > > > shutdowns but rather condem it firmly (as we all know). > > > > > > > > And, on a different mailing list, Mr. Nicolas Seidler > > > > nicolas-seidler>, > > > > who is Senior Policy Advisor for ISOC said the following: > > > > > > > > We felt it was time to formally express our long-standing > > > > concerns on such measures, in the context of the Cameroon > > > > situation and in view of others to come up in the future. We are > > > > also supporting and giving visibility to efforts from Access and > > > > members of the Keep it on campaign on our social media channels. > > > > > > > > And he reacted on Mr. Janvier's stance and ONLY had this to say: > > > > Finally, we have an ISOC Chapter in Cameroon, as in many other > > > > parts of the worlds. While not all members of Chapters share the > > > > same view (a Chapter is made of local volunteers, not staff), > > > > there are some who want to act and we’ll make sure to direct them > > > > to Deji, Julie and others involved in the advocacy effort. > > > > > > > > >From the above, we understand that it was a personal point of > > > > >view from Mr. > > > > Janvier which, as most of our colleagues said here, is completely > > > > wrong. I do personally believe that when a single person is > > > > restricted access, this should be raised and condemned. In > > > > Cameroon, we have 2 regions affected and this is terrible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Now, coming back to the discussion on this list regarding a > > > > statement, I would like to suggest the following:* > > > > 1. We can issue a statement adressed to ISOC Global (to ISOC > > > > Executive Director for example) condemning the public stance > > > > taken by ISOC Cameroon President. May I suggest *Norbert and > > > > Mawaki* to make an initial draft statement and share with us > > > > within the next 48 hours (if at all possible)? > > > > > > > > 2. We then issue a more general statement condemning Internet > > > > shutdown across the world as a civil society coalition because I > > > > am sure this is the new form of opression that Gov are taking (as > > > > said by Snowden). It will be very useful we use the expertise we > > > > have here to draft this and circulate it widely in all networks > > > > as a way to condemn the act but also to raise awareness about the > > > > issue (which is still unfamiliar with those who are not actively > > > > involved in these discussions or who have never experienced any > > > > shutdown). *For this, I would like to ask request few volunteers > > > > to make an initial draft statement as well?* > > > > > > > > Please do let me know what you think or if there is another > > > > approach that we can all agree on and take action without > > > > wassting more time. If you want to be part of the team of 3 to > > > > draft the second statement, please do let us know on this list > > > > within the next 48 hours. > > > > > > > > Very best, > > > > > > > > Arsene, IGC Co-cooordinator > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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DRF concluded 2016 with two pilot research studies: the first deals with the state of privacy policies of the major telecoms that are operating in Pakistan; the second study tackles the gendered surveillance faced by female journalists in Pakistan, and the impact it has on their professional and personal lives. The first study, *Telecoms Privacy & Data Protection Policies in Pakistan *, looks at the extent to which the privacy policies of the major telecoms in Pakistan protect and inform their customers, and where they let them down. We examine the positive and the areas which are sorely lacking. Some did better than expected, and some disappointed, given the work of their parent company/ies. DRF utilised methodology inspired by Ranking Digital Rights and their Corporate Accountability Index project. None came out with 100%, however, and one telecom company Zong has already reached out to us after release of the study. We hope that telecoms pay attention and work to develop privacy policies that respect their users, and instills greater confidence, assuring customers that their mobile service providers are able to convey that they are indeed doing their best to protect their data. This is especially important in not only the passage of the Prevention of Electronic Crimes Act, which could have significant ramifications for telecoms customers, but in the absence of explicit data protection legislation in Pakistan. *Surveillance of Female Journalists in Pakistan *examines the experiences of female journalists and the forms of surveillance that they face in the course of their work, and the toll surveillance can take on their professional and personal lives, it bleeds over into their personal lives. The research looks at the gendered forms - and different sources of - surveillance, including the state, audience members and political groups. The female journalists interviewed for the study spoke to DRF about the surveillance that they found themselves under not just by state authorities, but also the constant social surveillance in the form of abuse on social media - largely directed at their gender and appearance, rather than their work. In addition to mapping the forms of surveillance faced by female journalists, the report also explored the impact that this constant monitoring has, in terms of the psychological toll, self-censorship and retreat from digital spaces. This research study aims to add to the conversation around free speech, freedom of the press, surveillance and gender. DRF also aims to mainstream the idea of social surveillance as part of the definition of surveillance - where surveillance is not only carried out by the state, but also by social non-state actors. It is hoped that this study will highlight the gendered experience of female journalists and the specific problems they have to face. Pakistani telecoms' murky policies put users' privacy at risk: report www.dawn.com/news/1305364/pakistani-telecoms-murky-policies-put-users- privacy-at-risk-report Study finds telecom firms’ privacy, data protection policies inadequate http://www.dawn.com/news/1305503 http://nation.com.pk/national/31-Dec-2016/drf-releases-research-study-on- surveillance-of-female-journalists http://nation.com.pk/national/31-Dec-2016/research-study-on- surveillance-of-female-journalists-in-pakistan http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2016/12/31/pakistani- telecoms-murky-policies-put-users-privacy-at-risk-report/ http://www.dawn.com/news/1305891/female-journalists-face-gendered-forms-of- surveillance-study-finds -- Best, Nighat Dad Executive Director, Digital Rights Foundation Key ID: 386F2A5F Finger Print: 73C2 8F10 60D4 6553 0BFA D174 8AA1 226F 386F 2A5F Twitter: nighatdad Phone: +92 321 4815252 <+92%20321%204815252> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This research shows that multimedia web based content could help our institutions to improve learning and make content available beyond the class room *Abstract:* Multimedia implementation in e-learning has changed the way students learn, and how information is gathered and interpreted. E-learning provides opportunity for students and their teachers to have continuous interaction even outside the class room environment. The aim of this study is to develop a multimedia content platform that will enable students use multimedia content for e-learning in order to support class room teaching and improve their learning experience. The use of multimedia web-based content for e-learning is an attempt to extend learning outside the classroom, engage the students at any time and enhance their performance. During the study, we applied a user centered approach and interacted with the potential users. Qualitative and quantitative data were collected during the study and development of the application. The application allows peer to peer collaboration among the students and with the teachers. The application was evaluated by the intended users. The evaluation results show that multimedia content used for e-learning can enhance students’ performance, self-exploration, and learning experience. The students were encouraged and excited to study lecture materials in different formats. The study shows that multimedia content for e-learning has enable the students to make significant improvement in the understanding of their course content and performance. *Link:* https://www.erpublication.org/published_paper/IJETR042716.pdf Happy Reading ! -- *Akinremi Peter Taiwo* [ West Africa Coordinator ] Pan African Civil Society on Information Society (*ACSIS*) *Website: *www.acsis-scasi.org *E*xecutive Consultant. [ Compsoftnet Enterprise ] Nigeria *T*echnical Consultant [ RetailPoint ] Lagos Website: www.retailpos.com.ng *W*eb Master [ Internet Governance Caucus ] Website: www.igcaucus.org *Phone:* +2347-0638-30177, +2348-1874-76292 *twitter:* @compsoftnet *Skype:* akinremi.peter *Office:* Off old Ota Road, Alagbado,Lagos * Quote: *If you do not trust yourself, how can you trust others. *Quote:* People speaks from their perspective, does it mean they are right? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The Internet Governance Forum Secretariat is based in the United Nations Offices at Geneva (UNOG). The mandate of the IGF, set out in Paragraph 72 of the Tunis Agenda for the Information Society is to discuss the main public policy issues related to Internet governance in order to foster the sustainability, robustness, security, stability and development of the Internet. Under the overall guidance of DSD/UN-DESA and immediate supervision of the Programme and Technology Manager of the IGF Secretariat, the Consultant will be responsible for preparing the IGF2016 report containing a summary of the preparations, proceedings and stock taking of the tenth IGF meeting, as well as an abridged version of the report. These will give readers an overview and summary of the issues discussed during the IGF2016 cycle, including next suggested actions on the various debates. 1. *Duration of Contract* The proposed contract will be for 30 working days, between 30 January 2017 and 31 March 2017. 1. *Duty Station * There is no specific duty station for this post. The Consultant is not required to work on UN premises, but must be available for supervisory and review meetings/teleconferences. 1. *Activities, Expected Outputs and Milestones* Under the overall guidance of the Programme and Technology Manager, and following the same outline and substantive format of Part I of the 2015 IGF report, the Consultant will prepare: - the IGF2016 report (minimum 100 pages, maximum 250 pages) containing: - a brief concise summary of the preparations for the IGF2016 meeting held on 6-9 December 2016 in Jalisco, Mexico; - summaries of the issues discussed at the IGF2016 meeting (this section will contain overviews of the Internet governance issues that constituted the focus of the IGF2016 meeting (the IGF2016 sub-themes), as well as reports of the various sessions). - an abridged version of the report (maximum 30 pages). To prepare the report, the Consultant will perform the following tasks: 1. Prepare the report’s table of contents, using the sub-themes of the IGF2016 meeting as a basis for structuring the main content of the report. *(1 working day) Due* *date: 31 January 2017* 1. Prepare an editor’s introduction, explaining the methodology, general criteria and editorial lines or principles that were adopted for the preparation of the report. *(1 working day) Due date: 28 February 2017* 1. Prepare a brief summary of the preparations for the IGF2016 meeting (minimum 2 pages, maximum 6 pages). The following material should be used as a basis for preparing this summary: the IGF2016 website content; the summary reports of the Open Consultations and face-to-face and virtual MAG meetings. *(2 working days) Due date: 6 February 2017* 1. Prepare overviews (minimum 5 pages, maximum 12 pages each) of the Internet governance issues that constituted the focus of the IGF2016 meeting (based on the IGF2016 sub-themes). For each of the sub-themes, the overview should include a concise framing of the issue and a summary of the discussions held during the various IGF2016 sessions. The summary should reflect a balanced interpretation of the discussions and map out both the converging and diverging opinions expressed. It should also document if any topics earmarked for further discussion for the 2017 cycle. The following materials should be used as a basis in preparing these reviews: the descriptions, transcripts and reports of the IGF2016 sessions, including main/focus sessions, workshops, dynamic coalition meetings, open forums, best practice forums etc.; the Chair’s Summary.* (16 working days) Due date: 3 March 2017* 1. Prepare an abridged version of the report (minimum 25 pages, maximum 30 pages). This should include executive summaries of the overviews indicated at task d above. *(3 working days) Due date: 14 March 2017* 1. Integrate all the materials indicated at points a - d above, together with the reports of the various IGF2016 sessions, into one electronic file that has consistent formatting and is ready for typesetting and for conversion in a pdf format. Prepare the abridged version of the report as an electronic file that has consistent formatting and is ready for typesetting and for conversion in a pdf format. Deliver these files (first drafts) to the Supervisor. *(4 working days) Due date: 22 March 2017 * 1. Revise the first drafts of the IGF2016 report and of the abridged version based on the comments received from the Supervisor and deliver the final drafts. *(3 working days) Due date: 31 March 2017* 1. *Qualifications, Experience and Skills* 1. University degree in public administration, political science, international relations, development studies or other relevant disciplines; 2. A proven track record of minimum five (5) years of extensive professional experience in research and analytical work related to the relevant subject of the consultancy (public policy-making, development management, participatory governance, capacity building etc); 3. Extensive knowledge on the state of Internet governance debate and proven expertise on the broad range of issues related to the Internet governance ecosystem; 4. Familiarity with the United Nations system; 5. Excellent writing skills in the English language. 1. *Performance Indicators* The performance of the Consultant will be measured by the following indicators: Timely submission of outputs; Quality of the outputs demonstrating clear and easy readability; Positive feedback from IGF Programme and Technology Manager and MAG Chair. 1. *Terms of Payment* The Consultant’s fee will be commensurate with extensive work experiences, expected knowledge and expertise on Internet governance, and meeting the required educational background. Payments will be initiated upon successful completion or documented progress made on tasks as mentioned in the Terms of Reference. The Consultant will be paid in two parts to be charged to the IGF2016 budget line GLO/16/X01 upon certification from the Supervisor that the tasks have been satisfactorily carried out, as follows: - a first payment of 40% of the total fee will be made after the first 19 working days of the contract, upon documented progress made on tasks a, c and d as stated in this TOR; - the final payment of the remaining 60% of the total fee will be made upon satisfactory completion of all expected tasks at the end of contract. 1. *Languages* Fluency in English is required (both oral and written). Working knowledge of French is desirable. Knowledge of another official UN language will be considered an asset. ------------------------ **Arsène Tungali** Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international *, CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum * Tel: +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC IGF Ambassador - Blogger - ICANN Fellow . The HuffingtonPost UK -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If linking in via zoom please remember to mute your microphone. joly posted: "On Friday January 9 2016 the Microsoft Innovation & Policy Center and the Greater Washington DC Chapter of the Internet Society (ISOC-DC) present a Debrief of the 2016 Internet Governance Forum (IGF) held from December 6 - 9, 2016 in Guadalajara, Mexi" [image: Livestream]On *Friday January 9 2016* the* Microsoft Innovation & Policy Center * and the *Greater Washington DC Chapter of the Internet Society * (ISOC-DC) present a *Debrief of the 2016 Internet Governance Forum* (IGF) held from December 6 - 9, 2016 in Guadalajara, Mexico. The discussion will be facilitated by *Carolyn Nguyen* of Microsoft and *David Vyorst* of ISOC-DC. Discussants: *Liesyl Franz* - U.S. Department of State; *Andrew Mack* - AMGlobal Consulting; *Barbara Wanner* - U.S. Council for International Business; *Dustin Phillips* - ICANNWiki. Plus brief remarks concerning IGF National and Regional Initiatives (NRIs) from​ ​ *Marilyn Cade* - mCADE ICT Strategies. The event will webcast live on the *Internet Society Livestream Channel *. Remote participation will be available via *Zoom *. * What: a Debrief of the 2016 Internet Governance Forum (IGF) Where: Microsoft Innovation & Policy Center, Washington DC When: Friday January 9 2016 9am-10:30am EST | 14:00-15:30 UTC Webcast: https://livestream.com/internetsociety/igf2016debrief Zoom: https://zoom.us/j/271108543 Facebook event: https://www.facebook.com/events/104780100028904/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/hashtag/igf2016 * Comment See all comments *​Permalink* http://isoc-ny.org/p2/8879 -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From arsenebaguma at gmail.com Sat Jan 7 04:35:55 2017 From: arsenebaguma at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne_Tungali?=) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2017 11:35:55 +0200 Subject: [governance] Fwd: Outlook 2017 In-Reply-To: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B1FF@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> References: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B1FF@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: FYI. Get ready for an exciting year ahead. ------------------------ **Arsène Tungali** Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international *, CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum * Tel: +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico ) - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" < wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Date: 2017-01-06 23:27 GMT+02:00 Subject: Outlook 2017 To: NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu FYI Here is my Outlook for 2017 w http://www.circleid.com/posts/20160106_internet_outlook_2017_nationalistic_ hierarchies_multistakeholder/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But the most important function of this text is to support our discussion and critical reflection. This will be more creative in our situation with that, what we give the name Internet. A big nonsense. In the IRTF Gaia maillist on 7.1.2017 i received a link to a text: “Reclaiming the Internet” with distributed architectures: An introduction by Francesca Musiani and Cécile Méadel, 5. Dec 2016 http://journals.uic.edu/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/7101/5654 This is the same theme and act in the same space. Not in the areal of technical questions to the components. But more to our philosophical orientation. Reclaiming the Internet is a nice title. And have a clear orientation. But if no Internet exist, you will never be able to reclaim it. In the ISOC global maillist we had last year a big discussion to my proposal to the EU Survey "Next Generation Internet". It is the same. In some other lists from ISOC and IGF and IUF and hacker spaces and Community Networks and so on it is new. Also in the WSF (World Social Forum). The next and second part are the technical questions. But this, based on my experience, we have to organise it in a new space: Our global network for free technology. And this don't exist in this time. Therefore, we have to create it, because we need it. many greetings, willi for now: Asuncion, Paraguay -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Equal Rating Innovation Challenge Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 22:49:28 -0300 From: willi uebelherr To: Mozilla equalrating CC: Mozilla equal-rating info , Mozilla Open Innovation Team Dear friends of Mozilla, "Submissions must be made by teams of a minimum of two members". This i have read now the first time. But, i am alone. Of course, i will distribute also this proposal and discuss it with many people like the other proposals before. I send you my proposal for your "equal-rating" project. Your Submission form is not usable for me as a single person. Please, check it and tell, what you think about. many greetings, willi for now: Asuncion, Paraguay InterNet, the Inter-connection of local Net-works A proposal for the Mozilla project "equal-rating" Dear friends, I want to submit a proposal for the Mozilla project "equal-rating", which rests on my proposals at 1net.org in Brazil 2014 and the EU Survey Project "Next Generation Internet" 2016. All together rest on my texts "InterNet design principles", "Decentralization of the IP addresses" and "Decentralization of the DNS system" on the basis of the ccTLDs (country coded Top Level Domain). In the proposal from Mozilla (https://equalrating.com/our-goal/) we read: "Mozilla believes that we can and must do better. We don’t believe possession of a smartphone is enough to unlock the possibility of the Web for a significant set of people. We believe the open Internet is a social, educational, and economic tool that can build communities and businesses, and empower individuals." The free access to free knowledge and free communication for our free global co-operation helps the people to organize their stable local livelihoods themselves. Vint Cerf, William Drake and Wolfgang Kleinwaechter have written a text on the fragmentation of the Internet for the WEF (World Economy Forum). I am not a friend of the WEF. But I am a big friend of this work. There we find: Internet Fragmentation http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_FII_Internet_Fragmentation_An_Overview_2016.pdf Under: The Open Internet (p 13) "From a technical standpoint, the original shared vision guiding the Internet’s development was that every device on the Internet should be able to exchange data packets with any other device that was willing to receive them." This we can declare to one of our basic principles. But therefore we must ask the question of what is an Internet. My answer is: "the Inter-connections of local Net-works". This makes the InterNet to a transport system for digital data in packet form. The active elements in this network of connections are the local networks. And our "devices" with which we use these telecommunication systems are the elements of the local network. This answer is not absolutely valid. It is subject to our philosophical orientations and systems of value. We continue to ask how the packages find their way. Here I orient myself on how we find our way, if we want to move from one place to another place. We use the geographic orientation mixed with the knowledge of transportation possibilities over long distances. The basis for this is the geographical position of a local network in a coordinate system of the earth. Which coordinate system we use is open, even if I have a proposal for it. But this proposal is intended to be about basic principles, which are then the basis for special details. And it is important that we follow the proven path of the RFCs. An open debate about good solutions. Another important principle is that we implement the error checking in this transport system, because it is a matter of the transport. We want that the packages that we transport arrive as they were sent. At the second level, the application level, we act as if the two communication partners were directly connected. This error check takes place in each segment of the transport system. For this the package has a checksum. In the routers, a branching points with at least 2 alternatives, the transmission is checked and corrected if necessary. These methods are also still open. The important thing is that we can be sure when a packet arrives, that is identical to the packet, that was sent. We can summarize these principles in a list. 1) The constituent elements are the local and autonomous networks. 2) All local networks connect with their neighbors. We also use this principle at the level of the regional, and if necessary, the supraregional centers. 3) The transport capacities of these connections are basically symmetrical in both directions. 4) The global address for the global transport is derived from the geographic location of the local network. The local address is exclusively for the local network. 5) An error check is performed in each segment of this network, the route between 2 routers. 6) We distinguish 2 transport types: asynchronous and synchronous. The synchronous packets are preferred. Within the synchronous packets, there is the emergency call. These packages have the highest priority. 7) We decentralize the DNS system (Domain Name System) based on the ccTLD (country coded top level domain). 8) This telecommunication system is available to all people free of charge. It created from the activities of the people in the local networks and her regions. The realization conditions The telecommunications system is a technical system for the transport of digital data in packet form. The technology, the materialization of the laws of the nature, stay in the foreground. The principles of the design of the structure of this system is based on our philosophical foundations. The technologies for our telecommunication system are the objects of our global cooperation network of free technology. Free to participate in the development, free to use the results, for all people on our planet. With that, we realize 2 basic principles: "Think globally, act locally" and "Knowledge is always World Heritage". All people on our planet need this telecommunication system. Therefore it is reasonable, that we organize the search of the solutions in the theoretical and constructive questions for the creation of the components for this system in a free and global cooperation. To the addressing space The text "Internet Fragmentation" clearly addresses the limitations of today's addressing methods. If we use a 2 x 64bit address for global and local addresses, the following picture is shown. Based on the determination of a point on the Earth's surface with two angular dimensions, horizontal and vertical, and an approximate circumference of the Earth of 40,000 km, a resolution of 9 mm per circle results for a 64 bit global address (2 x 32 bit). The 64 bit local address is completely available to the area of the local network. This makes all discussions on the topic of IOT (Internet of Things) completely superfluous. And we're thrown back to the point where the Internet started. 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I would like to suggest everyone who attended the IGF and who is not intending to submit a personal contribution OR if you want to contribute again to please share some inputs using this editable link: Submission from IGC We can gather input until *January 18th* and have a volunteer to edit our submission and have it ready to be submitted. *I would like to call on anyone who is willing to serve as our Editor for this task to reach out to me privately.* I hope to count again on your collaboration as always. Regards, Arsene ------------------------ **Arsène Tungali** Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international *, CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum * Tel: +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico ) - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech). 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The time for me to thank again all those who actively took part into the drafting of this session, those who were in the room, our panelsits and speakers. I hope the next IGC Co-cos will follow this and make sure there is a session at future IGFs. Best regards. Arsene ------------------------ **Arsène Tungali** Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international *, CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum * Tel: +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico ) - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We are conducting a research study about perceptions of multistakeholderism and the use of online tools for participation in internet governance processes. Our goal is to inform multistakeholder processes and help develop new online tools for inclusive participation in internet governance. About a month ago we shared a similar request for an initial survey with this list. Many of you completed the first survey and we are grateful for your help. If you opted in the first survey to participate in the follow-up survey, you should have received a personalized email by now. In that case, please ignore this message. If you did not have a chance to participate in our original survey or to opt in for the follow-up survey, we will really appreciate you completing our survey now. You can find the survey at: http://tinyurl.com/IGF2016T2 The survey should take up to 20-30 minutes to complete. 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GDCO is the winner of seven (7)information for development awards. It the founder of the firstTelecentre academy in Africa and middle east and the thirteen in world ..GDCO is founded in partnership with the Digital City of Eindhoven (DSE) Netherlands and supported by Eindhoven volunteers for gedaref projects (SPEG ) On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 4:58 AM, Analia Aspis wrote: > Dear Mawaki, > > Problem should be solved. Let me know if you have any troubles. > > Best, > Analía > > On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 3:57 AM, Mawaki Chango wrote: > >> Colleagues, >> >> I've been getting the message below for a while now. Does anyone know >> what this is supposed to mean, or what that list a-2013 is about and what >> should be done to stop this? >> >> Thanks, >> Mawaki >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: "SYMPA" >> Date: Jan 8, 2017 3:17 AM >> Subject: Your bouncing address in list at-2013 >> To: >> Cc: >> >> > Messages from list at-2013 that were sent to your address [this address >> of mine] >> > have generated non-delivery reports since 30 Aug 2016. >> > If this problem persists, you will be automatically unsubscribed from >> the >> > list. >> > >> > You can contact list owner: at-2013-request at lists.igcaucus.org >> > >> > >> > >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From raquino at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 17:30:12 2017 From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 19:30:12 -0300 Subject: [governance] Taking stock of the 2016 work program and 11th IGF and suggestions for 2017 and 12th IGF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Arsene I'll just add an item to this call: the importance of archives of this list. Looking back at how many debates about IGF happened the list last year one can clearly find a few discussions which gathered more attention: - remote participation - MAG selection and roles - workshop proposals - interaction between IGF and other spaces: ICANN, WTO, CSTD... - IG training and fellowships These are a few I can remember but would be great to see which ones folks recall and decide to talk about when contributing Best, Renata Em 09/01/2017 06:18, "Arsène Tungali" escreveu: > Dear colleagues, > > I would like to suggest we collect inputs as a group and submit it to the > Secretariat as per this call for inputs > . > The deadline is January 22nd. We need to have this submitted by then. > > I would like to suggest everyone who attended the IGF and who is not > intending to submit a personal contribution OR if you want to contribute > again to please share some inputs using this editable link: Submission > from IGC > > We can gather input until *January 18th* and have a volunteer to edit our > submission and have it ready to be submitted. > *I would like to call on anyone who is willing to serve as our Editor for > this task to reach out to me privately.* > I hope to count again on your collaboration as always. > > Regards, > Arsene > ------------------------ > **Arsène Tungali** > Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > *, > CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum > * > Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> > GPG: 523644A0 > *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > > 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > > (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > > & Mexico > ) > - > Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > & Marrakech). AFRINIC > Fellow (Mauritius > > )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From arsenebaguma at gmail.com Tue Jan 10 01:18:19 2017 From: arsenebaguma at gmail.com (=?utf-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne_Tungali?=) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 08:18:19 +0200 Subject: [governance] Taking stock of the 2016 work program and 11th IGF and suggestions for 2017 and 12th IGF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7C618484-5ECF-4DFD-B93E-521A93763F64@gmail.com> Hi Renata, Thanks for providing some notes on past discussions on the list, this will surely help our members to be focused and touch some specific aspects of our list discussions. We have had very good discussions last year and surely recommendations/comments were given on the list. It will be great if our members could use this opportunity and input their concerns in the drive which will then be shared officially with the Secretariat. Regards, ----------------- Arsène Tungali, @arsenebaguma +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) > On Jan 10, 2017, at 12:30 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro wrote: > > Hi Arsene > > I'll just add an item to this call: the importance of archives of this list. > > Looking back at how many debates about IGF happened the list last year one can clearly find a few discussions which gathered more attention: > > - remote participation > - MAG selection and roles > - workshop proposals > - interaction between IGF and other spaces: ICANN, WTO, CSTD... > - IG training and fellowships > > These are a few I can remember but would be great to see which ones folks recall and decide to talk about when contributing > > Best, > > Renata > > Em 09/01/2017 06:18, "Arsène Tungali" escreveu: >> Dear colleagues, >> >> I would like to suggest we collect inputs as a group and submit it to the Secretariat as per this call for inputs. The deadline is January 22nd. We need to have this submitted by then. >> >> I would like to suggest everyone who attended the IGF and who is not intending to submit a personal contribution OR if you want to contribute again to please share some inputs using this editable link: Submission from IGC >> >> We can gather input until January 18th and have a volunteer to edit our submission and have it ready to be submitted. I would like to call on anyone who is willing to serve as our Editor for this task to reach out to me privately. >> >> I hope to count again on your collaboration as always. >> >> Regards, >> Arsene >> ------------------------ >> *Arsène Tungali* >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, Rudi international, >> CEO, Smart Services Sarl, Mabingwa Forum >> Tel: +243 993810967 >> GPG: 523644A0 >> Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo >> >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico) - >> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech). 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Know Human races are moving in different paths to kill eco system , villages , farming etc. this is why i am promoting Evangelizing for smart villages connecting next 3.4 billion. local growth , local content muliti stake holders ship from 1997 On wards, Know world is changing let us hope 2017 will be year of hope for all villagers un educated world wide to become happy and prosper. i will share so points for better IGF. Good day to you all kanumuri s raju " We Connect human contacts " " We make net to think and act " " Survival is h-commerce -human commerce or human knowledge commerce based on Bartering of knowledge Globally with out money as instrument " -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- kkkrkstrust - Social and community empowerment and support services Create Green world: Share your Knowledge to make India Green - Eco System and self sustainability of world through communities and Internet technologies collaboration knowledge collaboration commerce sustainable smart villages to connect next 2.4 billion people. ====================================================== our green India : open blog : Creating green India / green world ======================================================= Open blog :contribute to change your India : Change My/our India =============================================== Technology Community and open technologies open internet ====================================================== Renewable energy : Recycling and Renewable solutions ====================================================== Green projects Advisory & Sr consultant : EPC, Petro,Industrial Green solar, projects recycling ======================================================= ======================================================= open people gov : Future Gov and Open Gov ======================================================== SecurityHuman open smart Intel cyber expert , security national local ============================= [image: --] ks raju [image: http://]about.me/ksraju On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Arsène Tungali wrote: > Hi Renata, > > Thanks for providing some notes on past discussions on the list, this will > surely help our members to be focused and touch some specific aspects of > our list discussions. > > We have had very good discussions last year and surely > recommendations/comments were given on the list. It will be great if our > members could use this opportunity and input their concerns in the drive > which will then be shared officially with the Secretariat. > > Regards, > > ----------------- > Arsène Tungali, > @arsenebaguma > +243 993810967 > GPG: 523644A0 > Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo > > Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) > > On Jan 10, 2017, at 12:30 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro > wrote: > > Hi Arsene > > I'll just add an item to this call: the importance of archives of this > list. > > Looking back at how many debates about IGF happened the list last year one > can clearly find a few discussions which gathered more attention: > > - remote participation > - MAG selection and roles > - workshop proposals > - interaction between IGF and other spaces: ICANN, WTO, CSTD... > - IG training and fellowships > > These are a few I can remember but would be great to see which ones folks > recall and decide to talk about when contributing > > Best, > > Renata > > Em 09/01/2017 06:18, "Arsène Tungali" escreveu: > >> Dear colleagues, >> >> I would like to suggest we collect inputs as a group and submit it to the >> Secretariat as per this call for inputs >> . >> The deadline is January 22nd. We need to have this submitted by then. >> >> I would like to suggest everyone who attended the IGF and who is not >> intending to submit a personal contribution OR if you want to contribute >> again to please share some inputs using this editable link: Submission >> from IGC >> >> We can gather input until *January 18th* and have a volunteer to edit >> our submission and have it ready to be submitted. >> *I would like to call on anyone who is willing to serve as our Editor for >> this task to reach out to me privately.* >> I hope to count again on your collaboration as always. >> >> Regards, >> Arsene >> ------------------------ >> **Arsène Tungali** >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >> *, >> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum >> * >> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> >> GPG: 523644A0 >> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >> >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >> >> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >> >> & Mexico >> ) >> - >> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >> & Marrakech). 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Please do add few points on the Google Drive document about the IGF 2017 and suggestions for IGF 2017. Regards, Arsene ------------------------ **Arsène Tungali** Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international *, CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum * Tel: +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico ) - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK 2017-01-10 8:49 GMT+02:00 srajukanumuri : > HI Arsene , > > happy new year and happy Makar_Sankranti > the festival of harvest > starts in our country from 11 to 16 th. > i wish you and all farmers in your country the same as it is celebrated > by all farmers families as civilization > started with farming saving ECO system and joint famalies and Joint > villages. > > Know Human races are moving in different paths to kill eco system , > villages , farming etc. this is why > i am promoting Evangelizing for smart villages connecting next 3.4 > billion. local growth , local content > muliti stake holders ship from 1997 On wards, Know world is changing > let us hope 2017 will be year > of hope for all villagers un educated world wide to become happy and > prosper. > > i will share so points for better IGF. > > Good day to you all > kanumuri s raju > > " We Connect human contacts " > " We make net to think and act " > " Survival is h-commerce -human commerce or human knowledge commerce > based on Bartering of knowledge Globally with out money as instrument " > ------------------------------------------------------------ > -------------------------- > kkkrkstrust - Social and community > empowerment and support services > Create Green world: Share your Knowledge to make India Green - Eco System > and self sustainability of world through communities and Internet > technologies collaboration knowledge collaboration commerce sustainable > smart villages to connect next 2.4 billion people. > ====================================================== > our green India : open blog : Creating green India / green world > > ======================================================= > Open blog :contribute to change your India : Change My/our India > > =============================================== > Technology Community and open technologies open internet > > ====================================================== > Renewable energy : Recycling and Renewable solutions > > ====================================================== > Green projects Advisory & Sr consultant : EPC, Petro,Industrial Green > solar, projects recycling > ======================================================= > ======================================================= > open people gov : Future Gov and Open Gov > ======================================================== > SecurityHuman open smart Intel cyber expert , security national local > > ============================= > > [image: --] > ks raju > [image: http://]about.me/ksraju > > > > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Arsène Tungali > wrote: > >> Hi Renata, >> >> Thanks for providing some notes on past discussions on the list, this >> will surely help our members to be focused and touch some specific aspects >> of our list discussions. >> >> We have had very good discussions last year and surely >> recommendations/comments were given on the list. It will be great if our >> members could use this opportunity and input their concerns in the drive >> which will then be shared officially with the Secretariat. >> >> Regards, >> >> ----------------- >> Arsène Tungali, >> @arsenebaguma >> +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> >> GPG: 523644A0 >> Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo >> >> Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) >> >> On Jan 10, 2017, at 12:30 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro >> wrote: >> >> Hi Arsene >> >> I'll just add an item to this call: the importance of archives of this >> list. >> >> Looking back at how many debates about IGF happened the list last year >> one can clearly find a few discussions which gathered more attention: >> >> - remote participation >> - MAG selection and roles >> - workshop proposals >> - interaction between IGF and other spaces: ICANN, WTO, CSTD... >> - IG training and fellowships >> >> These are a few I can remember but would be great to see which ones folks >> recall and decide to talk about when contributing >> >> Best, >> >> Renata >> >> Em 09/01/2017 06:18, "Arsène Tungali" escreveu: >> >>> Dear colleagues, >>> >>> I would like to suggest we collect inputs as a group and submit it to >>> the Secretariat as per this call for inputs >>> . >>> The deadline is January 22nd. We need to have this submitted by then. >>> >>> I would like to suggest everyone who attended the IGF and who is not >>> intending to submit a personal contribution OR if you want to contribute >>> again to please share some inputs using this editable link: Submission >>> from IGC >>> >>> We can gather input until *January 18th* and have a volunteer to edit >>> our submission and have it ready to be submitted. >>> *I would like to call on anyone who is willing to serve as our Editor >>> for this task to reach out to me privately.* >>> I hope to count again on your collaboration as always. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Arsene >>> ------------------------ >>> **Arsène Tungali** >>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >>> *, >>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa >>> Forum * >>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> >>> GPG: 523644A0 >>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >>> >>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >>> >>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >>> >>> & Mexico >>> ) >>> - >>> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >>> & Marrakech). AFRINIC >>> Fellow (Mauritius >>> >>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hopefully, this does not affect my membership status regarding, say, any voting purposes in near future. Thanks again, Mawaki On Jan 9, 2017 1:58 AM, "Analia Aspis" wrote: > Dear Mawaki, > > Problem should be solved. Let me know if you have any troubles. > > Best, > Analía > > On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 3:57 AM, Mawaki Chango wrote: > >> Colleagues, >> >> I've been getting the message below for a while now. Does anyone know >> what this is supposed to mean, or what that list a-2013 is about and what >> should be done to stop this? >> >> Thanks, >> Mawaki >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: "SYMPA" >> Date: Jan 8, 2017 3:17 AM >> Subject: Your bouncing address in list at-2013 >> To: >> Cc: >> >> > Messages from list at-2013 that were sent to your address [this address >> of mine] >> > have generated non-delivery reports since 30 Aug 2016. >> > If this problem persists, you will be automatically unsubscribed from >> the >> > list. >> > >> > You can contact list owner: at-2013-request at lists.igcaucus.org >> > >> > >> > >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We will keep this in mind and it won't affect your membership status since it was a technical problem. ------------------------ **Arsène Tungali** Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international *, CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum * Tel: +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico ) - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK 2017-01-10 15:21 GMT+02:00 Mawaki Chango : > Dear Analia, > > Thanks for following up on this. From the notifications I've received from > the system, it looks like I was first unsubscribed and then resubscribed. > Hopefully, this does not affect my membership status regarding, say, any > voting purposes in near future. > Thanks again, > > Mawaki > > On Jan 9, 2017 1:58 AM, "Analia Aspis" wrote: > >> Dear Mawaki, >> >> Problem should be solved. Let me know if you have any troubles. >> >> Best, >> Analía >> >> On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 3:57 AM, Mawaki Chango wrote: >> >>> Colleagues, >>> >>> I've been getting the message below for a while now. Does anyone know >>> what this is supposed to mean, or what that list a-2013 is about and what >>> should be done to stop this? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Mawaki >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: "SYMPA" >>> Date: Jan 8, 2017 3:17 AM >>> Subject: Your bouncing address in list at-2013 >>> To: >>> Cc: >>> >>> > Messages from list at-2013 that were sent to your address [this >>> address of mine] >>> > have generated non-delivery reports since 30 Aug 2016. >>> > If this problem persists, you will be automatically unsubscribed from >>> the >>> > list. >>> > >>> > You can contact list owner: at-2013-request at lists.igcaucus.org >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Arsène Tungali wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > I would like to suggest we collect inputs as a group and submit it to the > Secretariat as per this call for inputs > . > The deadline is January 22nd. We need to have this submitted by then. > > I would like to suggest everyone who attended the IGF and who is not > intending to submit a personal contribution OR if you want to contribute > again to please share some inputs using this editable link: Submission > from IGC > > We can gather input until *January 18th* and have a volunteer to edit our > submission and have it ready to be submitted. > *I would like to call on anyone who is willing to serve as our Editor for > this task to reach out to me privately.* > I hope to count again on your collaboration as always. > > Regards, > Arsene > ------------------------ > **Arsène Tungali** > Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > *, > CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum > * > Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> > GPG: 523644A0 > *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > > 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > > (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > > & Mexico > ) > - > Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > & Marrakech). 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Regards, Arsene ------------------------ **Arsène Tungali** Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international *, CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum * Tel: +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico ) - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK 2017-01-10 16:16 GMT+02:00 Yolanda Mlonzi : > Hi Arsene, > > Thanks for sharing this. > > Added a few comments on the doc. > > Looking forward to reading other's views. > > Yolanda. > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Arsène Tungali > wrote: > >> Dear colleagues, >> >> I would like to suggest we collect inputs as a group and submit it to the >> Secretariat as per this call for inputs >> . >> The deadline is January 22nd. We need to have this submitted by then. >> >> I would like to suggest everyone who attended the IGF and who is not >> intending to submit a personal contribution OR if you want to contribute >> again to please share some inputs using this editable link: Submission >> from IGC >> >> We can gather input until *January 18th* and have a volunteer to edit >> our submission and have it ready to be submitted. >> *I would like to call on anyone who is willing to serve as our Editor for >> this task to reach out to me privately.* >> I hope to count again on your collaboration as always. >> >> Regards, >> Arsene >> ------------------------ >> **Arsène Tungali** >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >> *, >> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum >> * >> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> >> GPG: 523644A0 >> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >> >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >> >> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >> >> & Mexico >> ) >> - >> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >> & Marrakech). AFRINIC >> Fellow (Mauritius >> >> )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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View it in your browser . > > Dear Colleagues, > > The start of the year presents an excellent opportunity to look back and reflect on the main developments for 2016, and on what we can expect in the coming months. Two new reports have been published with the aim of 'looking back to look ahead': > The Top Digital Policy Developments of 2016: A Year in Review - http://dig.watch/2016 . The report identifies the top 20 developments that have shaped digital policy in 2016, and includes - for each development - a summary of facts, analysis into the significance of each development, timelines, and resources. > Digital Politics in 2017: Unsettled Weather, Stormy at Times, with Sunny Spells - www.diplomacy.edu/2017predictions . Dr Jovan Kurbalija's forecast for 2017 starts with an analysis of the general backdrop for digital policy in 2017: the broad conceptual references for understanding the specific digital policy developments. A prediction of the ten main digital policy developments for 2017 follows in the second part. > Your comments are most welcome. > > We look forward to seeing you for our first briefing of the year, on 31 January . > > The GIP Team > Follow us on Twitter | Forward to a friend > > You're receiving this email because you expressed an interest in Geneva Internet Platform. > unsubscribe odamyte at gmail.com from this list | update your subscription preferences > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dawit Bekele Date: 2017-01-12 13:44 GMT+02:00 Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Senior Policy Advisor for Africa position open at Internet Society To: AfrICANN Community List , African Network Operators Hi all, The Internet Society is looking for a Senior Policy Advisor for Africa. I encourage all interested and qualified to apply before the deadline of January 31st. Please also forward this email to anyone you think is right for the position. You can find the full posting at http://www.internetsociety. org/jobs/senior-policy-advisor-africa. Thank you, Dawit Bekele Director, African Regional Bureau Internet Society _______________________________________________ AfrICANN mailing list AfrICANN at afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/africann -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Workshop on Intelligent Systems and Services for Industrial Applications (ISS4IA) Message-ID: <014301d26d8e$792f6ae0$6b8e40a0$@unimi.it> ** ISS4IA at KES-IIMSS2017 ** [Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this CFP] ###################### CALL FOR PAPER ################################# International Workshop on Intelligent Systems and Services for Industrial Applications (ISS4IA) within 10th KES International Symposium on Intelligent Interactive Multimedia Systems and Services (KES-IIMSS 2017) ####################################################################### 21-23 June 2017, Vilamoura, Algarve, Portugal http://iimss-17.kesinternational.org http://sesar.di.unimi.it/call/iss4ia-2017/ ** Scope of the Invited Session Intelligent systems are fundamental for many industrial applications, like image enhancement in consumer electronics, video based recognition of shapes for quality control, identity or behaviors recognition, audio based recognition and in general enhanced human machine interaction. They are also at the bases of process’s control, allowing for instance monitoring and rapid reaction to critical events. Despite their diffusion, there are still many areas where intelligent systems can be successfully applied, or where their application is partial or could be extended and improved. The actual limitations of the adoptions are mainly in terms of required computational power, complexity of the architecture and deployments (e.g. Big Data Systems) or strict requirements in terms of assurance of the process and results. Most of the actual intelligent systems are mainly deployed on premises or inside embedded device, providing advanced signal processing, decision making support, intelligent interaction, to name but a few. Currently global information infrastructure is becoming more and more pervasive, digital business transactions are performed using a variety of mobile devices across multiple communication channels eventually in IoT environment. This foster the actual trend of offering intelligent systems as a service, allowing fast processing of data and avoiding complex on premises deployments, but introducing additional security and privacy issues that are limiting the adoption. For instance in many case image computations are demanded to a specific service offering object recognition, or stream of data analysis is obtained accessing to a Big Data as a Service system (e.g. log analysis, click streams analysis, etc.). This workshop aims to investigate the impact of the adoption of such applied intelligent systems to solve real-life problems in all areas including industry, automation & robotics, science, medicine, bioinformatics, cyberspace, and human-machine interactions. ISS4IA is aims to bring together top researchers both from academia and industry to stimulate research and create interdisciplinary collaboration links allowing the exploration of new frontiers in the area of multimodal environment. The proceedings will be published by Springer as book chapters in a volume of the "Smart Innovation, Systems and Technologies" series, submitted for indexing in Scopus and Thomson-Reuters Conference Proceedings Citation Index (CPCI) and the Web of Science. The topics of interest include but are not limited to: - Intelligent User Interfaces - Multimedia systems - Virtual/Augemented Reality Environments - Web-based Intelligent User Interfaces - Adaptive User Interaction - Recommender services - Multi-modal Systems - Industrial application of Internet of things - Assurance and compliance in industrial processes - Big Data processing and assurance - User Interface Privacy and Security - Imaging for Industrial applications - Computational Intelligence approaches in Signal Processing - Real-time Multimedia Signal Processing - Real-time signal compression and analysis - Improvements in digital image acquisition pipeline - Spatial and temporal estimation and protection of media streams - Soft computing approaches for embedded multimedia systems ** Chairs - M. Anisetti Università degli studi di Milano, Italy - V. Bellandi Università degli studi di Milano, Italy - G. Jeon Xidian University, China ** Instructions for Authors Please follow the paper preparation and submission instructions at http://iimss-17.kesinternational.org/submission.php ** Important Dates - Submission deadline: 16 February 2017 - Notification of acceptance: 23 March 2017 - Upload of final publication files due: 10 April 2017 ** Publication Accepted papers will be published by Springer Verlag, as book chapters in a volume of their Engineering Series. The proceedings will be available at the workshop. -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From arsenebaguma at gmail.com Fri Jan 13 10:54:32 2017 From: arsenebaguma at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne_Tungali?=) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 17:54:32 +0200 Subject: [governance] Fwd: Taking stock of the 2016 work program and 11th IGF and suggestions for 2017 and 12th IGF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear colleagues, This is a reminder that we need your inputs as a community as we take stock of the IGF and make suggestions for IGF 2017. So far, we have few contributions and I am thankful for those who contributed so far. We have until Januray 18th. I am still looking for an editor who will help clean our submission before we submit it to the Secretariat. Please refer to the email bellow for more details. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Arsène Tungali Date: 2017-01-09 11:17 GMT+02:00 Subject: Taking stock of the 2016 work program and 11th IGF and suggestions for 2017 and 12th IGF To: Internet Governance Dear colleagues, I would like to suggest we collect inputs as a group and submit it to the Secretariat as per this call for inputs . The deadline is January 22nd. We need to have this submitted by then. I would like to suggest everyone who attended the IGF and who is not intending to submit a personal contribution OR if you want to contribute again to please share some inputs using this editable link: Submission from IGC We can gather input until *January 18th* and have a volunteer to edit our submission and have it ready to be submitted. *I would like to call on anyone who is willing to serve as our Editor for this task to reach out to me privately.* I hope to count again on your collaboration as always. Regards, Arsene ------------------------ **Arsène Tungali** Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international *, CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum * Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> GPG: 523644A0 *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico ) - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech). 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From raquino at gmail.com Fri Jan 13 11:27:17 2017 From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:27:17 -0500 Subject: [governance] Fwd: Taking stock of the 2016 work program and 11th IGF and suggestions for 2017 and 12th IGF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi It's great to see the contributions already from Yolanda, Carlos, Chenai and others I'm just wondering that we have many contributions regarding transportation, food and schedule Not many on themes So what were the themes that were missing in IGF2016? What would you like to see in IGF2017? Were you expecting discussions on Trade, Youth and Gender, for instance? Best, Renata On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Arsène Tungali wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > This is a reminder that we need your inputs as a community as we take stock > of the IGF and make suggestions for IGF 2017. So far, we have few > contributions and I am thankful for those who contributed so far. > > We have until Januray 18th. I am still looking for an editor who will help > clean our submission before we submit it to the Secretariat. > > Please refer to the email bellow for more details. > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Arsène Tungali > Date: 2017-01-09 11:17 GMT+02:00 > Subject: Taking stock of the 2016 work program and 11th IGF and suggestions > for 2017 and 12th IGF > To: Internet Governance > > > Dear colleagues, > > I would like to suggest we collect inputs as a group and submit it to the > Secretariat as per this call for inputs. The deadline is January 22nd. We > need to have this submitted by then. > > I would like to suggest everyone who attended the IGF and who is not > intending to submit a personal contribution OR if you want to contribute > again to please share some inputs using this editable link: Submission from > IGC > > We can gather input until January 18th and have a volunteer to edit our > submission and have it ready to be submitted. I would like to call on anyone > who is willing to serve as our Editor for this task to reach out to me > privately. > > I hope to count again on your collaboration as always. > > Regards, > Arsene > ------------------------ > *Arsène Tungali* > Co-Founder & Executive Director, Rudi international, > CEO, Smart Services Sarl, Mabingwa Forum > Tel: +243 993810967 > GPG: 523644A0 > Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo > > 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & > Mexico) - > Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius) > - IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From srajukanumuri at gmail.com Sat Jan 14 06:41:59 2017 From: srajukanumuri at gmail.com (srajukanumuri) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 17:11:59 +0530 Subject: [governance] [Internet Policy] About Iran and OFAC licenses. In-Reply-To: <585018e8.d32f1c0a.f8647.2938@mx.google.com> References: <014c01d25536$a361db60$ea259220$@gmail.com> <585018e8.d32f1c0a.f8647.2938@mx.google.com> Message-ID: why we all honest of world fight. we all know who are crooks criminals. IF you want to change all honest must become #polticians #cronybiz or lastly #mafia #slaves. The slaves is last 3000 years it is continuing in the form of supposition and lastly #GUNTERRORISM #USEPOWER #?NAXALS #FAKE PASS PORT SCAMS by #CMOTELNGANA #HYD and lastly support #terrorists in HYDERABAD IN INDIA for power this is what UN USA etc are doing , The same model innovation all countries world wide. IT is open Secret like open source etc AWAKE ARISE SAVE MOTHER EARTH as #humanolgists #GODSHONESTSLAVES. JIA HIND kanumuri s raju INDIA " We Connect human contacts " " We make net to think and act " " Survival is h-commerce -human commerce or human knowledge commerce based on Bartering of knowledge Globally with out money as instrument " -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- kkkrkstrust - Social and community empowerment and support services Create Green world: Share your Knowledge to make India Green - Eco System and self sustainability of world through communities and Internet technologies collaboration knowledge collaboration commerce sustainable smart villages to connect next 3.4 billion people. ====================================================== our green India : open blog : Creating green India / green world ======================================================= Open blog :contribute to change your India : Change My/our India =============================================== Technology Community and open technologies open internet ====================================================== Renewable energy : Recycling and Renewable solutions ====================================================== Green projects Advisory & Sr consultant : EPC, Petro,Industrial Green solar, projects recycling ======================================================= ======================================================= open people gov : Future Gov and Open Gov ======================================================== SecurityHuman open smart Intel cyber expert , security national local ============================= [image: --] ks raju [image: http://]about.me/ksraju On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 9:20 PM, Kelly Mcgillvary wrote: > What's wrong with it is to many opinions and not enough action. Seems to > me that the world is suspended in debates about LAW. Common sense basic > humanity is not difficult to understand the internet is another noose > around the people's neck. Same as energy we have no control whilst GREEDY > WELL PAID INDIVIDUALS debate. We are drowning passing the buck wont keep > cutting it. WE ARE SLAVES TO THE GOVERNMENT WALKED ALL OVER AGAIN AND AGAIN. > ------------------------------ > From: Brandt Dainow > Sent: ‎13/‎12/‎2016 11:47 > To: 'Richard Hill' ; 'Kave Salamatian' > ; internetpolicy at elists.isoc.org > > Subject: Re: [Internet Policy] About Iran and OFAC licenses. > > Hi Richard, actually it’s not that simple. While it may be accepted that > an act which is illegal offline is also illegal online in most cases, this > is not universal. However, the issue for internet vs offline law is > difficult when territorial jurisdiction is confused. An online action may > be deemed to occur in multiple conflicting jurisdictions simultaneously, or > may affect citizens in multiple countries, all of whom claim jurisdiction, > or be legal in one country and illegal in another. > > > > The confusion regarding the relationship between national law, > international law and internet regulation is no more resolved now than it > was 10 years ago. So – the statement that the laws of a country should > take priority when determining internet regulation is a very complex > statement, without a clear unambiguous meaning, and can be based on many > different principles, which not everyone would agree to. Furthermore, the > original post did not limit itself to stating internet laws should be > subservient to Iranian laws, it also stated there should be uniquely > Iranian “standards.” It is therefore a legitimate question, when someone > says they believe one country’s laws should form the basis for internet > regulation, to ask on what basis they make that claim. > > > > Regards, > > Brandt Dainow > > brandt.dainow at gmail.com > > > > https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Brandt_Dainow > > http://www.imediaconnection.com/profiles/brandt.dainow > > > > *From:* Richard Hill [mailto:rhill at hill-a.ch] > *Sent:* 12 December 2016 10:25 > *To:* Brandt Dainow; Kave Salamatian > *Cc:* internetpolicy at elists.isoc.org > *Subject:* Re: [Internet Policy] About Iran and OFAC licenses. > > > > Dear Brandt > > > > It is generally accepted that offline law applies equally online. And this > for both international law and national law. > > > > Best > > Richard > > > > > > Sent from Samsung Mobile. > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > From: Brandt Dainow > > Date:12/12/2016 11:01 (GMT+01:00) > > To: Kave Salamatian > > Cc: internetpolicy at elists.isoc.org > > Subject: Re: [Internet Policy] About Iran and OFAC licenses. > > > > sorry for the confusion, I thought I was replying to the original poster. > I regret that you saw assumptions in what I asked. I was not aware that I > had made any assumptions. I am simply curious as to why someone would > believe that their national laws should dictate internet regulation. I > have no position/belief on this matter myself, I am a philosopher > specialising in the internet. I am therefore interested to learn why > people believe what they do about internet regulation, in an effort to > discover the underlying philosophical premises they base their thinking > upon. Please do not, therefore, assume that questioning why someone > believes something is a form of disagreement or criticism. > > > > On 9 December 2016 at 10:38, Kave Salamatian > wrote: > > Dear Brandt, > > > > I am wondering why you answer to Mahdi a mail sent by Noor and put in your > answer assumptions that Mahdi never did ? > > > > Kv > > Envoyé de mon iPhone > > > Le 9 déc. 2016 à 11:27, Brandt Dainow a écrit : > > Hi Mahdi, there seem to be some assumptions behind your position which are > not obvious from your statement. In every field of human activity, some > countries always start first and influence development. That does not > automatically mean their influence is harmful to others. The fact the > internet started in the USA does not automatically mean its current form is > harmful to other countries. How are existing standards contrary to Iranian > culture or law? > > > > Regards, > > Brandt Dainow > > brandt.dainow at gmail.com > > > > https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Brandt_Dainow > > http://www.imediaconnection.com/profiles/brandt.dainow > > > > *From:* InternetPolicy [mailto:internetpolicy-bounces at elists.isoc.org > ] *On Behalf Of *Noor Ul Mushtaq > (+971562044567 <+971%2056%20204%204567>) > *Sent:* 09 December 2016 10:20 > *To:* Mahdi Taghizadeh > *Cc:* internetpolicy at elists.isoc.org > *Subject:* Re: [Internet Policy] About Iran and OFAC licenses. > > > > It is very important for Iran to create own standards as compared to BS & > US standards. So far internet & related rules are monopolized by certain > nations. > > Cyber-security laws etc should comply with Iranian laws first. > > > > On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Mahdi Taghizadeh wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > I also want to know if any progress has been made on this issue. > > > > I should have been in Mexico now as an ISOC Ambassador to IGF 2016 but > missed this opportunity because of OFAC sanctions. > > > > On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 2:46 PM Kave Salamatian > wrote: > > Dear All, Raul, > > > > we are almost three months after the below mail and the IGF has already > begun in Mexico. During this time lapse we did not had any news from ISOC > management about the steps taken to solve the issue raised by OFAC > implication in ISOC activities. > > > > I think that beyond myself there is other members of the list that would > like to know if any steps has been made to solve the issues. As an element > of answer it has took 3 weeks for other institutions (IEEE for example), to > get an agreement of OFAC on issues similar to the one under discussion. > > > > Looking forward for the answer of ISOC management, > > > > Many thanks, > > > > Kavé Salamatian > > > > > > > Le 19 sept. 2016 à 18:26, Raul Echeberria a écrit > : > > > > > > > > > Dear all: > > > > > > I changed the subject of the thread because the previous subject was by > itself both and exaggeration and a misstatement. > > > > > > I will try to explain as much clear as possible what is the situation > and what’s the solution trying to not refer to any specific previous email. > > > > > > Internet Society is a non for profit international and independent > organization, not dependent of any government of the world. The > organizations is incorporated in several countries for several reasons. Due > to that we have to follow the laws of the countries in which we are > incorporated. One of those countries is United States. > > > > > > According the US Law, any organization incorporated in the country has > to comply with “….. economic and trade sanctions based on US foreign policy > and national security goals against targeted foreign countries and > regimes……” > > > The local organization responsible of leading with this is the OFAC > (Office of Foreign Assets Control). > > > > > > There is a broad variety of sanctions related to different countries. If > you want to run some permitted activities in (or with) any of those > countries, you need to get an OFAC license. > > > > > > Funding an Iranian citizen to participate in the IGF looks as something > possible and legal to do. But we still need a license. It’s not an > overreaction of our lawyers. Consultations were made and our conclusion is > that we can’t do that without a license. > > > > > > It doesn’t matter if you do it through a third party or from any other > of our offices from around the globe, it continue being illegal. If not it > would be very easy to by pass any sanction to any country from any other > country. > > > Some cases has been mentioned in the discussion and they clearly refer > to organizations who already have gotten the license so they are not doing > different things, it is just they already did something that we still have > to do. > > > > > > We have already faced similar situations in the past (not many > fortunately) and we got the license and so, the restrictions were removed. > This is the same we will do in this case. Of course (and this should be > obvious to every good faith people) we not only don’t have anything against > the participation of Iranians in IGF or any other IG forum, but we think > and feel exactly the opposite, and that’s the reason why we originally had > selected this person to participate in our IGF Ambassador Program. > > > In parallel there is people who are trying to form an Internet Society > Chapter in Iran and it will also require an OFAC license so we are even > more motivated to do everything we need. > > > > > > As i said before, it takes time and money to do it. I don’t know how > other organizations work, but we follow the procedures and there is not any > alternative to get a license in few days or weeks. > > > > > > If in the past Internet Society preferred to proceed in other ways > deciding to not perform activities in those countries instead of to do the > possible to be able to perform those activities, that’s something I don’t > know and can not make an opinion about that. What I can say is that’s the > way we will deal with this situation and it is the same way we would > proceed in other similar cases. > > > > > > I don’t see any reason why we could not do things in Iran, but the fact > is that we can not do them right now. > > > > > > > > > I hope this is enough clear to everybody. I think I have tried to > address all the concerns expressed in the > > > [The entire original message is not included.] > > _______________________________________________ > To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, > please log into the ISOC Member Portal: > https://portal.isoc.org/ > Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Deirdre ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Erick Iriarte Ahon Date: 14 January 2017 at 00:28 Subject: [latinoamericann] Fwd: The Role of the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement in the Internet Ecosystem: Uneasy Liaison or Synergistic Alliance? To: LatinoamerICANN Cc: LatinoamerICANN FYI The Role of the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement in the Internet Ecosystem: Uneasy Liaison or Synergistic Alliance? Neha Mishra University of Melbourne, Law School, Students December 29, 2016 Journal of International Economic Law, Forthcoming Abstract: The Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (‘TPP’) is the first trade agreement that comprehensively deals with contemporary policy issues in digital trade. It introduces new disciplines on issues such as cross-border data flows, online privacy, network neutrality, cybersecurity, regulation of spam, and safe harbour protection for internet intermediaries. These provisions are atypical of trade agreements, and are particularly significant as they have a direct impact on internet policy. In this article, I evaluate these new disciplines in the TPP to assess the extent to which the TPP is suitably placed in the internet eco-system. After a comprehensive legal assessment of these disciplines, I argue that the TPP does not effectively fit into the broader internet ecosystem, as it fails to synergize the goal of trade liberalization with important internet policy concerns such as facilitating consumer trust and digital innovation. However, despite its deficiencies, the TPP sets a new benchmark for rules on digital trade, as its provisions address several contemporary issues in the digital economy. Therefore, the provisions on digital trade within the TPP will be instrumental in future negotiations at the World Trade Organization (‘WTO’) and other regional bodies. More importantly, the TPP is a reminder of the increasing significance of trade agreements in influencing critical aspects of internet policy. Particularly, in developing rules on digital trade that affect issues such as cross-border data flows, online privacy and consumer protection, net neutrality and cybersecurity, trade negotiators/lawyers need to comprehensively assess the relevance of these rules in the liberalization of digital trade, and its broader impact on the internet ecosystem. You are receiving this message because you are a member of the community LatinoamerICANN . View this contribution on the web site A reply to this message will be sent to all members of LatinoamerICANN. Reply to sender | Unsubscribe -- “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Guided by the broad public interest, those selected will work to fulfill ICANN's mission to coordinate the global Internet's systems of unique identifiers, and in particular, to ensure its stable and secure operation. They will gain valuable insights and experience from working across boundaries of knowledge, responsibility, culture and geography. They will make a valuable public service contribution toward the functioning and evolution of this essential global resource. Qualifications Fluency in English is a requirement for all positions. Other qualifications, skills and time commitments vary depending on the position. For information, visit the NomCom webpage . Application Deadline and Process For full consideration, ICANN must receive applications by 21 March 2017, 23:59 Universal Coordinated Time (UTC). Submit applications through the online application request form or by emailing nomcom2017 at icann.org . Submit candidate recommendations through the online form or by emailing nomcom2017 at icann.org . All applications are confidential. Selections will be announced in August or September 2017. Successful candidates will assume their positions after ICANN's Annual General Meeting, to be held from 28 October to 3 November 2017. Please refer to the announcement on ICANN’s website at https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-3-2017-01-11-en Best regards Dave Kissoondoyal ICANN 2017 NomCom Member mailto: dave at kmpglobal.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: <01F53A17-B6B3-4A32-A233-674C8E8D3CCF@alfa-redi.org> Message-ID: <776473076.3438582.1484441772154@mail.yahoo.com> The internet of the future is based on current capital investments and should be administered from as global a perspective as possible by an international body whose focus is based on the social development  of global society on an equal basis for all gobal citizens. . Breakdown of trade policy and agreements between original members of a trade agreement who were acting together as a group in discussions on the internet globally, could create risks for the stability of the internet. It is important for the internet that it's stability is not impacted by individual small group  business trade agreements. The internet is universal and should be administered , built and financed with that in  mind as much as possible. Infrastructure is in use for several decades once put in to place and cannot be easily changed due to political  adjustments. WSIS, ITU etc. processes support the global citizen approach....Amali De Silva-Mitchell   Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 4:18, Deirdre Williams wrote: This may be of interest.Deirdre ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Erick Iriarte Ahon Date: 14 January 2017 at 00:28 Subject: [latinoamericann] Fwd: The Role of the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement in the Internet Ecosystem: Uneasy Liaison or Synergistic Alliance? To: LatinoamerICANN Cc: LatinoamerICANN FYI The Role of the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement in the Internet Ecosystem: Uneasy Liaison or Synergistic Alliance?     Neha Mishra  University of Melbourne, Law School, Students   December 29, 2016   Journal of International Economic Law, Forthcoming     Abstract:         The Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (‘TPP’) is the first trade agreement that comprehensively deals with contemporary policy issues in digital trade. It introduces new disciplines on issues such as cross-border data flows, online privacy, network neutrality, cybersecurity, regulation of spam, and safe harbour protection for internet intermediaries. These provisions are atypical of trade agreements, and are particularly significant as they have a direct impact on internet policy. In this article, I evaluate these new disciplines in the TPP to assess the extent to which the TPP is suitably placed in the internet eco-system. After a comprehensive legal assessment of these disciplines, I argue that the TPP does not effectively fit into the broader internet ecosystem, as it fails to synergize the goal of trade liberalization with important internet policy concerns such as facilitating consumer trust and digital innovation. However, despite its deficiencies, the TPP sets a new benchmark for rules on digital trade, as its provisions address several contemporary issues in the digital economy. Therefore, the provisions on digital trade within the TPP will be instrumental in future negotiations at the World Trade Organization (‘WTO’) and other regional bodies. More importantly, the TPP is a reminder of the increasing significance of trade agreements in influencing critical aspects of internet policy. Particularly, in developing rules on digital trade that affect issues such as cross-border data flows, online privacy and consumer protection, net neutrality and cybersecurity, trade negotiators/lawyers need to comprehensively assess the relevance of these rules in the liberalization of digital trade, and its broader impact on the internet ecosystem. You are receiving this message because you are a member of the community LatinoamerICANN. View this contribution on the web site A reply to this message will be sent to all members of LatinoamerICANN. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de Sun Jan 15 08:06:06 2017 From: wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Kleinw=E4chter=2C_Wolfgang=22?=) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 14:06:06 +0100 Subject: [governance] Trump & Jack Ma References: <01F53A17-B6B3-4A32-A233-674C8E8D3CCF@alfa-redi.org> Message-ID: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B24B@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> fyi http://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-meeting-with-jack-ma-comes-as-u-s-keeps-eye-on-alibaba-1484051143 Wolfgang -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From parminder at itforchange.net Sun Jan 15 08:27:10 2017 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 18:57:10 +0530 Subject: [governance] Trump & Jack Ma In-Reply-To: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B24B@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> References: <01F53A17-B6B3-4A32-A233-674C8E8D3CCF@alfa-redi.org> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B24B@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: On Sunday 15 January 2017 06:36 PM, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" wrote: > fyi > > http://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-meeting-with-jack-ma-comes-as-u-s-keeps-eye-on-alibaba-1484051143 They will of course strike a deal in the best (corporatist) multistakeholderist tradition...... WEF is just the forum to facilitate such a thing, now when WEF remains one of the few influential venues of global Internet related "norms" making. parminder > > Wolfgang > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jo=C3=A3o_Carlos_R._Carib=C3=A9 ?=) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 14:06:44 -0200 Subject: [governance] Trump & Jack Ma In-Reply-To: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B24B@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> References: <01F53A17-B6B3-4A32-A233-674C8E8D3CCF@alfa-redi.org> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B24B@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: <40313417-D270-4017-ADAA-75710DB81666@me.com> Trump are following Fadi's path.... -- João Carlos R. Caribé Transdisciplinary Consultant http://wazushi.com.br Skype joaocaribe +55(021) 9 8761 1967 > Em 15 de jan de 2017, às 11:06, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang escreveu: > > fyi > > http://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-meeting-with-jack-ma-comes-as-u-s-keeps-eye-on-alibaba-1484051143 > > Wolfgang > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From joly at punkcast.com Mon Jan 16 19:03:01 2017 From: joly at punkcast.com (Joly MacFie) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 19:03:01 -0500 Subject: [governance] JOINT NYC/DC MEETUP WEDS: Content Rules?! Newsfeeds, Algorithms, Content Moderation, and Ethics Message-ID: Wednesday's event is the first time we've done a live inter-city meetup. Should be interesting! We still have plenty of seats available at the NYC node, so please join us. GrubHub is across the street from Bryant Park and, as you might imagine, there will be food and drink! *RSVP* A little background on the event. The idea for this came in the run up to last years *USA-IGF* . We already had a session on free speech issues thus it got bumped. What it really was about how what we see on the Internet is shaped, the public interest in that, and the role of governance. Since then we've been overtaken by events - not just fake news, but a general awareness of the bubble effect. The are many facets to this, and it looks like it will merit a series. Secondly, the format. We all know how remote participants are second-class participants in meetups.. At last year's *Inbox Awesome* , *Justin Gallagher*, VP of Product at Trello, spoke (video ). He talked about the company's policy of "*One remote? All remote!*". If any one person attends a meeting remotely, they all go back to their desks and webcams. So the idea came - if we hook up two meetups then everybody will be a remote participant together! Let's see if it works. We will use Zoom. There will also be a *livestream*, just for viewers and archive, joly posted: "On Wednesday Jan 18 2017 the New York and Washington, DC Chapters of the Internet Society will hold a joint panel discussion - Content Rules?! Newsfeeds, Algorithms, Content Moderation, and Ethics - at the American University in DC, and GrubHub in NYC. Ou" [image: livestream] On *Wednesday Jan 18 2017* the *New York * and *Washington, DC * Chapters of the Internet Society will hold a joint panel discussion - *Content Rules?! Newsfeeds, Algorithms, Content Moderation, and Ethics * - at the *American University* in DC, and *GrubHub* in NYC. Our panel will address the technical and ethical questions raised by the social, political, and economic impact of the increasing prominence of these algorithmically negotiated information spaces, including: Should these platforms be considered public spaces? What are the impacts of (algorithmically) moderated content? Should the public have a right to see and know the algorithms being used to moderate and control content? At what point do we consider private platforms as media?Panelists: In Washington, DC - *Jessa Lingel* - Assistant Professor, Annenberg School of Communications; *Andrew Bridges* - Partner, Fenwick & West LLP. In New York,* Gilad Lotan* - Head of Data Science @buzzfeed; *Arthi Murugesan* - Lead Data Scientist at Grubhub. Additional panelists TBA shortly! The event will be webcast live on the *Internet Society Livestream Channel * (no registration required). *What: Content Rules?! Newsfeeds, Algorithms, Content Moderation, and Ethics* * Where: American University DC & GrubHub NYC* * When: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 5:30 PM to 9:00 PM* * Webcast:* *​​ * *https://livestream.com/internetsociety/contentrules/ * * Attend NYC: * ​​ *https://www.meetup.com/isoc-ny/events/236853243/ * * Attend DC: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/content-rules-newsfeeds-algorithms-content-moderation-and-ethics-tickets-31068860799 * * Twitter: #contentrules https://twitter.com/hashtag/ContentRules * Comment See all comments *​Permalink* http://isoc-ny.org/p2/8892 -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you haven't submitted any contribution, please use the link bellow and contribute to this collaborative work by members of the IGC. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e1Ngs5EEFelASHJM8DrgejrsuIvl8DJGcwyQ9e-_W3E/edit#heading=h.s1xru2c0qdfr Thanks, Arsene ------------------------ **Arsène Tungali** Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international *, CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum * Tel: +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico ) - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You might be interested in this program: https://www.icann.org/development-and-public-responsibility/nextgen *Apply following this timeframe:* ICANN59 (Meeting B / Policy Forum) in Johannesburg, South Africa to be held 26 - 29 June 2017 - Application Round open: 16 January 2017 at 23:59 UTC - Application Round close: 24 February 2017 at 23:59 UTC - Selected NextGen announcement: 27 March 2017 Do not hesitate if you have any question. We have alumni of this program on the list and they are willing to help. Regards, Arsene ------------------------ **Arsène Tungali** Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international *, CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum * Tel: +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico ) - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech ). 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The deadline for applications is 21 March 2017. > > We are inviting applications and recommendations for the following positions: > > • Two members of the ICANN Board of Directors > • Three representatives to the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) – one each from Africa, Asia/Australia/Pacific Islands and Latin America/Caribbean regions > • Two members of the Council of the Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) > • One member of the Council of the Country-Code Names Supporting Organization (ccNSO) > > Note that this announcement does not cover the PTI Board Positions; the application period for that will be launched separately in late January. > > Information: > > ICANN Announcement: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-3-2017-01-11-en > > ICANN 2017 Nominating Committee Leadership Positions Candidacy Application Request: https://forms.icann.org/en/groups/nomcom/apply > > 2017 NomCom Website: https://www.icann.org/nomcom2017 > > To repeat what I said last month, > >> On Dec 17, 2016, at 11:12, William Drake > wrote: >> >> Needless to say, we really need a solid and diverse crop of civil society applicants, especially for the Boards and GNSO. In light of last year’s cycle, I would expect strong female candidates for the ICANN Board to get an especially close look. >> >> So a) if anyone here thinks they could be a fit for one of these positions, please poke around the above website, including the timeline (applications will open soon, TBD), and consider applying; and b) if you think you know someone else who could fit the bill, ask them to do the same. >> >> In addition, as I’m on the outreach subcommittee, if you have any suggestions of meetings (especially before end of March) at which we could conduct some outreach to encourage good applications, please send me a note. >> >> Report Card Page: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/nomcom2017-report-cards-2016-12-16-en >> >> December Report Card: https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/nomcom-report-card-16dec16-en.pdf >> > > Thanks, > > Bill > > > > ************************************************ > William J. Drake > International Fellow & Lecturer > Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ > University of Zurich, Switzerland > william.drake at uzh.ch (direct), wjdrake at gmail.com (lists), > www.williamdrake.org > ************************************************ > ************************************************ William J. Drake International Fellow & Lecturer Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ University of Zurich, Switzerland william.drake at uzh.ch (direct), wjdrake at gmail.com (lists), www.williamdrake.org ************************************************ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this document and do not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor make any copies. Violators may face court persecution. On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Arsène Tungali wrote: > Colleagues, > > Are you between 18 and 30 years old and interested in the domain name > system, Internet governance issues, ICT public policy work? > > You might be interested in this program: https://www.icann.org/ > development-and-public-responsibility/nextgen > > *Apply following this timeframe:* > > ICANN59 (Meeting B / Policy Forum) in Johannesburg, South Africa to be > held 26 - 29 June 2017 > > - Application Round open: 16 January 2017 at 23:59 UTC > - Application Round close: 24 February 2017 at 23:59 UTC > - Selected NextGen announcement: 27 March 2017 > > Do not hesitate if you have any question. We have alumni of this program > on the list and they are willing to help. > > Regards, > Arsene > ------------------------ > **Arsène Tungali** > Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > *, > CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum > * > Tel: +243 993810967 > GPG: 523644A0 > *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > > 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > > (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > > & Mexico > ) > - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger > - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > & Marrakech > > ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius > > )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jaryn56 at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 10:48:50 2017 From: jaryn56 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?Sm9zw6kgRsOpbGl4IEFyaWFzIFluY2hl?=) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 10:48:50 -0500 Subject: [governance] 2017 ICANN NomCom cycle opens for applications In-Reply-To: References: <3B974C65-FF2E-4A6D-B8EF-2B58F5DD5D08@uzh.ch> Message-ID: Estoy de acuerdo 2017-01-17 5:57 GMT-05:00 William Drake : > Hi > > Perhaps of interest to someone here… > > Bill > > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From: *William Drake > *Subject: **2017 NomCom cycle opens for applications* > *Date: *January 12, 2017 at 09:06:05 GMT+1 > *To: *NCUC-discuss > > Hi everyone > > The 2017 NomCom application request form is now live. The deadline for > applications is 21 March 2017. > > We are inviting applications and recommendations for the following > positions: > > • Two members of the ICANN Board of Directors > • Three representatives to the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) – one > each from Africa, Asia/Australia/Pacific Islands and Latin > America/Caribbean regions > • Two members of the Council of the Generic Names Supporting > Organization (GNSO) > • One member of the Council of the Country-Code Names Supporting > Organization (ccNSO) > > Note that this announcement does not cover the PTI Board Positions; the > application period for that will be launched separately in late January. > > Information: > > ICANN Announcement: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-3- > 2017-01-11-en > > ICANN 2017 Nominating Committee Leadership Positions Candidacy Application > Request: https://forms.icann.org/en/groups/nomcom/apply > > 2017 NomCom Website: https://www.icann.org/nomcom2017 > > To repeat what I said last month, > > On Dec 17, 2016, at 11:12, William Drake wrote: > > Needless to say, we really need a solid and diverse crop of civil society > applicants, especially for the Boards and GNSO. In light of last year’s > cycle, I would expect strong female candidates for the ICANN Board to get > an especially close look. > > So a) if anyone here thinks they could be a fit for one of these > positions, please poke around the above website, including the timeline > (applications will open soon, TBD), and consider applying; and b) if you > think you know someone else who could fit the bill, ask them to do the same. > > In addition, as I’m on the outreach subcommittee, if you have any > suggestions of meetings (especially before end of March) at which we could > conduct some outreach to encourage good applications, please send me a note. > > Report Card Page: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/nomcom2017- > report-cards-2016-12-16-en > > December Report Card: https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/nomcom- > report-card-16dec16-en.pdf > > > > Thanks, > > Bill > > > > ************************************************ > William J. Drake > International Fellow & Lecturer > Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ > University of Zurich, Switzerland > william.drake at uzh.ch (direct), wjdrake at gmail.com (lists), > www.williamdrake.org > ************************************************ > > > ************************************************ > William J. 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It is intended > only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not accept legal > responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not the intended > recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this document and do > not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor make > any copies. Violators may face court persecution. > > On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Arsène Tungali > wrote: > >> Colleagues, >> >> Are you between 18 and 30 years old and interested in the domain name >> system, Internet governance issues, ICT public policy work? >> >> You might be interested in this program: https://www.icann.org/developm >> ent-and-public-responsibility/nextgen >> >> *Apply following this timeframe:* >> >> ICANN59 (Meeting B / Policy Forum) in Johannesburg, South Africa to be >> held 26 - 29 June 2017 >> >> - Application Round open: 16 January 2017 at 23:59 UTC >> - Application Round close: 24 February 2017 at 23:59 UTC >> - Selected NextGen announcement: 27 March 2017 >> >> Do not hesitate if you have any question. We have alumni of this program >> on the list and they are willing to help. >> >> Regards, >> Arsene >> ------------------------ >> **Arsène Tungali** >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >> *, >> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum >> * >> Tel: +243 993810967 >> GPG: 523644A0 >> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >> >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >> >> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >> >> & Mexico >> ) >> - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger >> - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >> & Marrakech >> >> ). 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From remmyn at gmail.com Tue Jan 17 11:25:22 2017 From: remmyn at gmail.com (Remmy Nweke) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 17:25:22 +0100 Subject: [governance] Apply for NextGen @ ICANN program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks @Arsene for sharing ____ REMMY NWEKE, mNGE, Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor, DigitalSENSE Africa Media [*Multiple-award winning medium*] (DigitalSENSE Business News ; ITREALMS , NaijaAgroNet ) Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria PC Summit 2017 , December 7-8 @Federal Palace, Victoria Island, Lagos. *Vice President, African Civil Society on the Information Society (ACSIS ) _________________________________________________________________ *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and attachments are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this document and do not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor make any copies. Violators may face court persecution. On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 4:51 PM, José Félix Arias Ynche wrote: > Yo me pregunto ¿tenemos miembros de esas edades?, no creo, o es para un > publico aparte. > > 2017-01-17 7:32 GMT-05:00 Remmy Nweke : > >> thanks Arsene or sharing >> >> ____ >> REMMY NWEKE, mNGE, >> Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor, >> DigitalSENSE Africa Media [*Multiple-award winning medium*] >> (DigitalSENSE Business News >> ; ITREALMS >> , NaijaAgroNet >> ) >> Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos >> M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms >> >> Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria >> >> PC Summit 2017 , December 7-8 @Federal >> Palace, Victoria Island, Lagos. >> >> *Vice President, African Civil Society on the Information Society (ACSIS >> ) >> _________________________________________________________________ >> *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and >> attachments are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is >> intended only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not >> accept legal responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not >> the intended recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this >> document and do not disclose the contents of this document to any other >> person, nor make any copies. Violators may face court persecution. >> >> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Arsène Tungali >> wrote: >> >>> Colleagues, >>> >>> Are you between 18 and 30 years old and interested in the domain name >>> system, Internet governance issues, ICT public policy work? >>> >>> You might be interested in this program: https://www.icann.org/developm >>> ent-and-public-responsibility/nextgen >>> >>> *Apply following this timeframe:* >>> >>> ICANN59 (Meeting B / Policy Forum) in Johannesburg, South Africa to be >>> held 26 - 29 June 2017 >>> >>> - Application Round open: 16 January 2017 at 23:59 UTC >>> - Application Round close: 24 February 2017 at 23:59 UTC >>> - Selected NextGen announcement: 27 March 2017 >>> >>> Do not hesitate if you have any question. We have alumni of this program >>> on the list and they are willing to help. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Arsene >>> ------------------------ >>> **Arsène Tungali** >>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >>> *, >>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa >>> Forum * >>> Tel: +243 993810967 >>> GPG: 523644A0 >>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >>> >>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >>> >>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >>> >>> & Mexico >>> ) >>> - AFRISIG 2016 - >>> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >>> & Marrakech >>> >>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >>> >>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From lorena at collaboratory.de Tue Jan 17 13:02:51 2017 From: lorena at collaboratory.de (Lorena Jaume-Palasi) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 19:02:51 +0100 Subject: [governance] Apply for NextGen @ ICANN program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2017-01-17 16:51 GMT+01:00 José Félix Arias Ynche : > Yo me pregunto ¿tenemos miembros de esas edades?, no creo, o es para un > publico aparte. > I wonder: do we have members in that age range? I don't think so, the message is for a different audience Hola José, yes we do have members that young :) Sí tenemos miembros en esa edad. Cheers Lorena > > 2017-01-17 7:32 GMT-05:00 Remmy Nweke : > >> thanks Arsene or sharing >> >> ____ >> REMMY NWEKE, mNGE, >> Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor, >> DigitalSENSE Africa Media [*Multiple-award winning medium*] >> (DigitalSENSE Business News >> ; ITREALMS >> , NaijaAgroNet >> ) >> Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos >> M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558 <(802)%20312-2558>, 8051000475, T: >> @ITRealms >> >> Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria >> >> PC Summit 2017 , December 7-8 @Federal >> Palace, Victoria Island, Lagos. >> >> *Vice President, African Civil Society on the Information Society (ACSIS >> ) >> _________________________________________________________________ >> *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and >> attachments are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is >> intended only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not >> accept legal responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not >> the intended recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this >> document and do not disclose the contents of this document to any other >> person, nor make any copies. Violators may face court persecution. >> >> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Arsène Tungali >> wrote: >> >>> Colleagues, >>> >>> Are you between 18 and 30 years old and interested in the domain name >>> system, Internet governance issues, ICT public policy work? >>> >>> You might be interested in this program: https://www.icann.org/developm >>> ent-and-public-responsibility/nextgen >>> >>> *Apply following this timeframe:* >>> >>> ICANN59 (Meeting B / Policy Forum) in Johannesburg, South Africa to be >>> held 26 - 29 June 2017 >>> >>> - Application Round open: 16 January 2017 at 23:59 UTC >>> - Application Round close: 24 February 2017 at 23:59 UTC >>> - Selected NextGen announcement: 27 March 2017 >>> >>> Do not hesitate if you have any question. We have alumni of this program >>> on the list and they are willing to help. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Arsene >>> ------------------------ >>> **Arsène Tungali** >>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >>> *, >>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa >>> Forum * >>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> >>> GPG: 523644A0 >>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >>> >>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >>> >>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >>> >>> & Mexico >>> ) >>> - AFRISIG 2016 - >>> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >>> & Marrakech >>> >>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >>> >>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Lorena Jaume-Palasí ∙ Coordinator, Global Internet Governance Arbeitsgruppe Internet & Gesellschaft Co:llaboratory e.V. www.intgovforum.de ∙ www.collaboratory.de ∙ Newsletter ∙ Facebook ∙ Twitter ∙ Youtube -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Should be great. joly posted: "On Tuesday January 24 2017 Future Tense will hold a lunchtime discussion - Will The Internet Always Be American? at the New America Foundation in Washington DC. Many leading Internet players are U.S. firms. What will resurging nationalism portend for the " [image: Future Tense] On *Tuesday January 24 2017 Future Tense * will hold a lunchtime discussion - *Will The Internet Always Be American? * at the New America Foundation in Washington DC. Many leading Internet players are U.S. firms. What will resurging nationalism portend for the future of the American-centric internet and the values that initially defined it? Speakers: *Rebecca MacKinnon*, Director, Ranking Digital Rights, New America; *Emily Parker*, Future Tense Fellow, New America; *Nu Wexler*, Senior Manager of Communications, Twitter; *Carolyn Nguyen*, Director of Technology Policy, Microsoft; *Ross Schulman*, Senior Policy Counsel, Open Technology Institute; *Jennifer Daskal*, Associate Professor of Law, American University; *Hao Wu*, Fellow, New America; *Ellery Roberts Biddle*, Advocacy Director, Global Voices; *Joshua Keating*, Staff Writer, Slate. Moderator: *Andrés Martinez*, Editorial Director, Future Tense. The event will be webcast live on the *New America YouTube Channel *. Viewers are requested to *RSVP *. *What: Will The Internet Always Be American? Where: New America Foundation, Washington DC When: January 24, 2017 12:00pm-2:00pm (17:00-19:00 UTC) Webcast: https://youtu.be/pGGMb1l2KGE RSVP (including webcast): http://newamerica.cvent.com/d/2vqx8c/4W Twitter: #AmericanInternet https://twitter.com/hashtag/AmericanInternet * Comment See all comments *​Permalink* http://isoc-ny.org/p2/8920 -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Bine planteado el tema, ilustre Tocayo. Atentamente José Francisco José Félix Arias Ynche escribió: > Yo me pregunto ¿tenemos miembros de esas edades?, no creo, o es para un > publico aparte. > > 2017-01-17 7:32 GMT-05:00 Remmy Nweke : > >> thanks Arsene or sharing >> >> ____ >> REMMY NWEKE, mNGE, >> Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor, >> DigitalSENSE Africa Media [*Multiple-award winning medium*] >> (DigitalSENSE Business News >> ; ITREALMS >> , NaijaAgroNet >> ) >> Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos >> M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms >> >> Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria >> >> PC Summit 2017 , December 7-8 @Federal >> Palace, Victoria Island, Lagos. >> >> *Vice President, African Civil Society on the Information Society (ACSIS >> ) >> _________________________________________________________________ >> *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and attachments >> are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is intended >> only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not accept legal >> responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not the intended >> recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this document and do >> not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor make >> any copies. Violators may face court persecution. >> >> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Arsène Tungali >> wrote: >> >>> Colleagues, >>> >>> Are you between 18 and 30 years old and interested in the domain name >>> system, Internet governance issues, ICT public policy work? >>> >>> You might be interested in this program: https://www.icann.org/developm >>> ent-and-public-responsibility/nextgen >>> >>> *Apply following this timeframe:* >>> >>> ICANN59 (Meeting B / Policy Forum) in Johannesburg, South Africa to be >>> held 26 - 29 June 2017 >>> >>> - Application Round open: 16 January 2017 at 23:59 UTC >>> - Application Round close: 24 February 2017 at 23:59 UTC >>> - Selected NextGen announcement: 27 March 2017 >>> >>> Do not hesitate if you have any question. We have alumni of this program >>> on the list and they are willing to help. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Arsene >>> ------------------------ >>> **Arsène Tungali** >>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >>> *, >>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum >>> * >>> Tel: +243 993810967 >>> GPG: 523644A0 >>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >>> >>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >>> >>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >>> >>> & Mexico >>> ) >>> - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger >>> - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >>> & Marrakech >>> >>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >>> >>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From willi.uebelherr at riseup.net Tue Jan 17 18:40:20 2017 From: willi.uebelherr at riseup.net (willi uebelherr) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:40:20 -0300 Subject: [governance] [Internet Policy] WEBCAST Jan 24: Will The Internet Always Be American? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <96e04849-d11b-0a6b-d95e-200b6198a5df@riseup.net> Dear Joly, you have to understand: America is the continent. You live in North-America in the USA. The internet is controlled mostly from the USA. But this has two conditions: 1) The groups in USA want to do that 2) The people around accept this What you do in USA is your decision. And what the people around on the planet do in her region, is her decision. The only condition here is, that we are interoperable. many greetings, willi Asuncion, Paraguay On 17/01/2017 17:58, Joly MacFie wrote: > This was set for late last year and got postponed Always Be American>. You might call it eagerly awaited. It's going to be > rapid fire with all those speakers! Should be great. > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From willi.uebelherr at riseup.net Tue Jan 17 19:30:23 2017 From: willi.uebelherr at riseup.net (willi uebelherr) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:30:23 -0300 Subject: [governance] [Internet Policy] WEBCAST Jan 24: Will The Internet Always Be American? In-Reply-To: References: <96e04849-d11b-0a6b-d95e-200b6198a5df@riseup.net> Message-ID: <5460e96f-2b3e-c334-de72-e2e6c8eb92a5@riseup.net> Dear Joe, independent of the continental plates, it is one island. The same is with Eurasia. A special sparation is made with Africa, because Eurasia and Africa is today one island. But never, if people in west Europe speak about Europe, they mean east Asia. The root we find with James Monroe and his Monroe-Doctrin 1823. But this is not necessary our base. many greetings, willi -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [Internet Policy] WEBCAST Jan 24: Will The Internet Always Be American? Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 15:50:58 -0800 From: Joe Touch On 1/17/2017 3:40 PM, willi uebelherr wrote: > Dear Joly, > you have to understand: America is the continent. You live in > North-America in the USA. "America" would refer to two continents: North America and South America. See definition 1 of the OED: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/America The term America means many things, but it has also commonly become synonymous with "the United States". See definition 1.1 of the OED, as above. Note: the people of the US did not conspire to make this happen ;-) Joe -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From arsenebaguma at gmail.com Wed Jan 18 01:54:37 2017 From: arsenebaguma at gmail.com (=?utf-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne_Tungali?=) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 08:54:37 +0200 Subject: [governance] Apply for NextGen @ ICANN program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1EF8DD6D-5D15-4250-B96C-946FAFFA64E6@gmail.com> Thanks Lorena and Jose Felix for your comments. Indeed, on this list we have members of all age and so many are eligible for this opportunity. I just have to make it clear, this is only for those in Africa region or currently studying/working on the continent because the meeting is happening in Africa. Thanks, Arsene ----------------- Arsène Tungali, @arsenebaguma +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) > On Jan 17, 2017, at 8:02 PM, Lorena Jaume-Palasi wrote: > > > > 2017-01-17 16:51 GMT+01:00 José Félix Arias Ynche : >> Yo me pregunto ¿tenemos miembros de esas edades?, no creo, o es para un publico aparte. > I wonder: do we have members in that age range? I don't think so, the message is for a different audience > > Hola José, > yes we do have members that young :) > Sí tenemos miembros en esa edad. > Cheers > Lorena >> >> 2017-01-17 7:32 GMT-05:00 Remmy Nweke : >>> thanks Arsene or sharing >>> >>> ____ >>> REMMY NWEKE, mNGE, >>> Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor, >>> DigitalSENSE Africa Media [Multiple-award winning medium] >>> (DigitalSENSE Business News; ITREALMS, NaijaAgroNet) >>> Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos >>> M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms >>> Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria >>> PC Summit 2017, December 7-8 @Federal Palace, Victoria Island, Lagos. >>> >>> *Vice President, African Civil Society on the Information Society (ACSIS) >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and attachments are confidential and may also be privileged information. 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Violators may face court persecution. >>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Arsène Tungali wrote: >>>> Colleagues, >>>> >>>> Are you between 18 and 30 years old and interested in the domain name system, Internet governance issues, ICT public policy work? >>>> >>>> You might be interested in this program: https://www.icann.org/development-and-public-responsibility/nextgen >>>> >>>> Apply following this timeframe: >>>> ICANN59 (Meeting B / Policy Forum) in Johannesburg, South Africa to be held 26 - 29 June 2017 >>>> >>>> Application Round open: 16 January 2017 at 23:59 UTC >>>> Application Round close: 24 February 2017 at 23:59 UTC >>>> Selected NextGen announcement: 27 March 2017 >>>> Do not hesitate if you have any question. We have alumni of this program on the list and they are willing to help. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Arsene >>>> ------------------------ >>>> *Arsène Tungali* >>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, Rudi international, >>>> CEO, Smart Services Sarl, Mabingwa Forum >>>> Tel: +243 993810967 >>>> GPG: 523644A0 >>>> Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo >>>> >>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico) - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius) - IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > -- > Lorena Jaume-Palasí ∙ Coordinator, Global Internet Governance Arbeitsgruppe > > Internet & Gesellschaft Co:llaboratory e.V. > > www.intgovforum.de ∙ www.collaboratory.de ∙ Newsletter ∙ Facebook ∙ Twitter ∙ Youtube > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From cchair at researchictafrica.net Wed Jan 18 02:57:50 2017 From: cchair at researchictafrica.net (Chenai Chair) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 09:57:50 +0200 Subject: [governance] Beyond Access data: Research ICT Africa (RIA) ICT household surveys in 2017 Message-ID: <49A6425A-A6DD-473B-837A-954550A38719@researchictafrica.net> Hi everyone, Although this is Africa specific it might be helpful for anyone looking out for evidence on internet access and use indicators in the region. RIA, a non-profit think tank focused on building evidence for ICT policy and regulation, will be resuming the Household and Individual ICT access and use survey again in January 2017 after a funding interregnum. This round includes, nine African countries (Kenya, Ghana, Kenya, Nigeria, Rwanda, Tanzania, Mozambique, South Africa and Lesotho). The surveys are part of a global initiative on producing much needed quality data on ICT access and use in the global south. RIA will also co-ordinate the surveys with their sister networks LIRNEasia in four Asian countries (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Cambodia) and DIRSI in five Latin American (Peru, Guatemala, Colombia, Argentina and Chile). There are several opportunities for research topics for PhD, Masters or post-doc students from these surveys. Any students who would like to collaborate on this either through the data gathering and data analysis process or just wish to work independently with the dataset once it available, can contact admin at researchICTafrica.net. Further information on research areas can be found here: http://www.researchictafrica.net/home.php?h=199 Thanks, Chenai Chenai Chair Researcher & Communications & Evaluation Advisor Research ICT Africa Unit 409, Old Castle Brewery 6 Beach Road Woodstock, Cape Town, 7925 South Africa T: +27 71 447 6332 f:www.facebook.com/researchICTafrica.ne t t: @RIAnetwork See www.researchICTafrica.net for most recent policy research papers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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References: <96e04849-d11b-0a6b-d95e-200b6198a5df@riseup.net> <5460e96f-2b3e-c334-de72-e2e6c8eb92a5@riseup.net> <2e747c18-17e7-d25e-ef9c-2e67608fd8b4@isi.edu> Message-ID: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B26A@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> BTW, in the 80s we had - at the Minimum - four definitions of Europe. 1. Europe as the a greographicaly unit from Iceland to the Urals (part of the Soviet Union, including the Caucasian republics but excluding the sein republics) 2. Europe as the member states of the CSCE (from Vancouver to Vladiwostok) 3. Europe as the member states of the EU (at this time it was 15) 4. Europe (from a UK perspective) as "the continent", excluding the UK w -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: InternetPolicy im Auftrag von Joe Touch Gesendet: Mi 18.01.2017 02:01 An: willi uebelherr; ISOC Internet Policy Cc: IGF gov Betreff: Re: [Internet Policy] WEBCAST Jan 24: Will The Internet Always Be American? On 1/17/2017 4:30 PM, willi uebelherr wrote: > > Dear Joe, > > independent of the continental plates, it is one island. Despite the current climate, I don't participate in the personal redefinition of every term on the planet. North America is a single land mass. It has been continuously surrounded by water since the completion of the Panama canal, even if we go by your personal definition. But it has been known by that term for a very long time (see below). > The same is with Eurasia. A special sparation is made with Africa, > because Eurasia and Africa is today one island. That "special separation" is historical; the same applies to Europe vs. Asia and North America vs. South America. > But never, if people in west Europe speak about Europe, they mean east > Asia. They mean what they want to mean. You can define your own terms all you want, but that does not mandate that they are accepted by others. > The root we find with James Monroe and his Monroe-Doctrin 1823. But > this is not necessary our base. The Monroe Doctrine does not contain the term "North America"; only "American continents" (note the plural). And the term "North America" is clearly shown on the following map, dated 1690 (68 years before Monroe was born). https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/510d47db-b02b-a3d9-e040-e00a18064a99 Joe > > many greetings, willi > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Re: [Internet Policy] WEBCAST Jan 24: Will The Internet > Always Be American? > Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 15:50:58 -0800 > From: Joe Touch > > On 1/17/2017 3:40 PM, willi uebelherr wrote: > > Dear Joly, > > you have to understand: America is the continent. You live in > > North-America in the USA. > > "America" would refer to two continents: North America and South America. > See definition 1 of the OED: > https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/America > > The term America means many things, but it has also commonly become > synonymous with "the United States". > See definition 1.1 of the OED, as above. > > Note: the people of the US did not conspire to make this happen ;-) > Joe > _______________________________________________ > To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, > please log into the ISOC Member Portal: > https://portal.isoc.org/ > Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. _______________________________________________ To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, please log into the ISOC Member Portal: https://portal.isoc.org/ Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From helani at lirneasia.net Wed Jan 18 03:37:31 2017 From: helani at lirneasia.net (Helani Galpaya) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 08:37:31 +0000 Subject: [governance] Beyond Access data: Research ICT Africa (RIA) ICT household surveys in 2017 In-Reply-To: <49A6425A-A6DD-473B-837A-954550A38719@researchictafrica.net> References: <49A6425A-A6DD-473B-837A-954550A38719@researchictafrica.net> Message-ID: Let me add to Chennai's email below. We (LIRNEasia) are in particular interested in finding researchers who have expertise in working in Cambodia, understand the ICT sector and policy/regulatory situation in the country (inclusive of the IG situation), and who speak local languages. Please contact info at lirneasia.net addressed to me (Helani) and the heading "Beyond Access Survey". Thanks and regards, Helani Helani Galpaya LIRNEasia www.lirneasia.net +94 77 3600 766 (m-LK); +44 7415 865222 (m-UK) On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 7:57 AM, Chenai Chair wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Although this is Africa specific it might be helpful for anyone looking > out for evidence on internet access and use indicators in the region. > > RIA, a non-profit think tank focused on building evidence for ICT policy > and regulation, will be resuming the Household and Individual ICT access > and use survey again in January 2017 after a funding interregnum. This > round includes, nine African countries (Kenya, Ghana, Kenya, Nigeria, > Rwanda, Tanzania, Mozambique, South Africa and Lesotho). The surveys are > part of a global initiative on producing much needed quality data on ICT > access and use in the global south. RIA will also co-ordinate the surveys > with their sister networks LIRNEasia in four Asian countries (India, > Pakistan, Bangladesh and Cambodia) and DIRSI in five Latin American (Peru, > Guatemala, Colombia, Argentina and Chile). > > There are several opportunities for research topics for PhD, Masters or > post-doc students from these surveys. Any students who would like to > collaborate on this either through the data gathering and data analysis > process or just wish to work independently with the dataset once it > available, can *contact admin at researchICTafrica.net > .* > > Further information on research areas can be found here: http://www. > researchictafrica.net/home.php?h=199 > > Thanks, > > Chenai > > > Chenai Chair > Researcher & > Communications & Evaluation Advisor > Research ICT Africa > Unit 409, Old Castle Brewery > 6 Beach Road > Woodstock, Cape Town, 7925 > South Africa > T: +27 71 447 6332 <+27%2071%20447%206332> > f:www.facebook.com/researchICTafrica.ne > t > t: @RIAnetwork > > See www.researchICTafrica.net for most recent policy research papers > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B26A@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> References: <96e04849-d11b-0a6b-d95e-200b6198a5df@riseup.net> <5460e96f-2b3e-c334-de72-e2e6c8eb92a5@riseup.net> <2e747c18-17e7-d25e-ef9c-2e67608fd8b4@isi.edu> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B26A@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: hi All , United states , united kingdom ( Brit exit ) is one group , European union is one group ( Germany etc ) , France , Italy , Spain , Turkey , one group , Russia one group , china , Pakistan north Korea one group , IRAN group , Saudi group , UAE -gulf one group , Nigerian group, south Africa group , Kenya groups , Ghana groups , Morocco , Group , Brazil , Mexico , Groups India , Singapore , Japan Vietnam/south Korea group , Bulgaria , Portugal Estonia one group , Norway , Sweden , Switzerland one group , Scotland / Ireland one group , Hong Kong / TI WAN/ MACAU one group who are connected with different Intranets / Extra nets / dark nets etc are True open internet which will make AMERICAN net to work properly with live broadcasts of E-mail , Online portals , Fake Info etc. what ever we want we can call internet or use it we have freedom of speech freedom of voice justice liberty in the form of VOTES which can be created/printed as politicians / supporters want. let us vote for One global internet connecting next 3.4 billion with no China Red Flags and ISIS Black FLAGS with one white FLAG to make Internet live in happy prosperous sate in each Country as WORLD IS NOT FLAT ,World is LOCAL . Good day to you kanumuri s raju " We Connect human contacts " " We make net to think and act " " Survival is h-commerce -human commerce or human knowledge commerce based on Bartering of knowledge Globally with out money as instrument " -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- kkkrkstrust - Social and community empowerment and support services Create Green world: Share your Knowledge to make India Green - Eco System and self sustainability of world through communities and Internet technologies collaboration knowledge collaboration commerce sustainable smart villages to connect next 3.4 billion people. ====================================================== . On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 1:34 PM, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" < wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de> wrote: > BTW, in the 80s we had - at the Minimum - four definitions of Europe. > 1. Europe as the a greographicaly unit from Iceland to the Urals (part of > the Soviet Union, including the Caucasian republics but excluding the sein > republics) > 2. Europe as the member states of the CSCE (from Vancouver to Vladiwostok) > 3. Europe as the member states of the EU (at this time it was 15) > 4. Europe (from a UK perspective) as "the continent", excluding the UK > > w > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: InternetPolicy im Auftrag von Joe Touch > Gesendet: Mi 18.01.2017 02:01 > An: willi uebelherr; ISOC Internet Policy > Cc: IGF gov > Betreff: Re: [Internet Policy] WEBCAST Jan 24: Will The Internet Always Be > American? > > > > On 1/17/2017 4:30 PM, willi uebelherr wrote: > > > > Dear Joe, > > > > independent of the continental plates, it is one island. > > Despite the current climate, I don't participate in the personal > redefinition of every term on the planet. > > North America is a single land mass. It has been continuously surrounded > by water since the completion of the Panama canal, even if we go by your > personal definition. > > But it has been known by that term for a very long time (see below). > > > The same is with Eurasia. A special sparation is made with Africa, > > because Eurasia and Africa is today one island. > > That "special separation" is historical; the same applies to Europe vs. > Asia and North America vs. South America. > > > But never, if people in west Europe speak about Europe, they mean east > > Asia. > > They mean what they want to mean. You can define your own terms all you > want, but that does not mandate that they are accepted by others. > > > The root we find with James Monroe and his Monroe-Doctrin 1823. But > > this is not necessary our base. > > The Monroe Doctrine does not contain the term "North America"; only > "American continents" (note the plural). > > And the term "North America" is clearly shown on the following map, > dated 1690 (68 years before Monroe was born). > https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/510d47db-b02b- > a3d9-e040-e00a18064a99 > > Joe > > > > > many greetings, willi > > > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > Subject: Re: [Internet Policy] WEBCAST Jan 24: Will The Internet > > Always Be American? > > Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 15:50:58 -0800 > > From: Joe Touch > > > > On 1/17/2017 3:40 PM, willi uebelherr wrote: > > > Dear Joly, > > > you have to understand: America is the continent. You live in > > > North-America in the USA. > > > > "America" would refer to two continents: North America and South America. > > See definition 1 of the OED: > > https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/America > > > > The term America means many things, but it has also commonly become > > synonymous with "the United States". > > See definition 1.1 of the OED, as above. > > > > Note: the people of the US did not conspire to make this happen ;-) > > Joe > > _______________________________________________ > > To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, > > please log into the ISOC Member Portal: > > https://portal.isoc.org/ > > Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. > > _______________________________________________ > To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, > please log into the ISOC Member Portal: > https://portal.isoc.org/ > Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From compsoftnet at gmail.com Wed Jan 18 07:06:18 2017 From: compsoftnet at gmail.com (Akinremi Peter Taiwo) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 04:06:18 -0800 Subject: [governance] Beyond Access data: Research ICT Africa (RIA) ICT household surveys in 2017 In-Reply-To: References: <49A6425A-A6DD-473B-837A-954550A38719@researchictafrica.net> Message-ID: Thanks for sharing, Chenai. Best. On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 12:37 AM, Helani Galpaya wrote: > > Let me add to Chennai's email below. > We (LIRNEasia) are in particular interested in finding researchers who > have expertise in working in Cambodia, understand the ICT sector and > policy/regulatory situation in the country (inclusive of the IG situation), > and who speak local languages. > Please contact info at lirneasia.net addressed to me (Helani) and the > heading "Beyond Access Survey". > Thanks and regards, > Helani > > Helani Galpaya > LIRNEasia > www.lirneasia.net > +94 77 3600 766 (m-LK); +44 7415 865222 (m-UK) > > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 7:57 AM, Chenai Chair < > cchair at researchictafrica.net> wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> Although this is Africa specific it might be helpful for anyone looking >> out for evidence on internet access and use indicators in the region. >> >> RIA, a non-profit think tank focused on building evidence for ICT policy >> and regulation, will be resuming the Household and Individual ICT access >> and use survey again in January 2017 after a funding interregnum. This >> round includes, nine African countries (Kenya, Ghana, Kenya, Nigeria, >> Rwanda, Tanzania, Mozambique, South Africa and Lesotho). The surveys are >> part of a global initiative on producing much needed quality data on ICT >> access and use in the global south. RIA will also co-ordinate the surveys >> with their sister networks LIRNEasia in four Asian countries (India, >> Pakistan, Bangladesh and Cambodia) and DIRSI in five Latin American (Peru, >> Guatemala, Colombia, Argentina and Chile). >> >> There are several opportunities for research topics for PhD, Masters or >> post-doc students from these surveys. Any students who would like to >> collaborate on this either through the data gathering and data analysis >> process or just wish to work independently with the dataset once it >> available, can *contact admin at researchICTafrica.net >> .* >> >> Further information on research areas can be found here: >> http://www.researchictafrica.net/home.php?h=199 >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chenai >> >> >> Chenai Chair >> Researcher & >> Communications & Evaluation Advisor >> Research ICT Africa >> Unit 409, Old Castle Brewery >> 6 Beach Road >> Woodstock, Cape Town, 7925 >> South Africa >> T: +27 71 447 6332 <+27%2071%20447%206332> >> f:www.facebook.com/researchICTafrica.ne >> t >> t: @RIAnetwork >> >> See www.researchICTafrica.net for most recent policy research papers >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- *Akinremi Peter Taiwo* [ West Africa Coordinator ] Pan African Civil Society on Information Society (*ACSIS*) *Website: *www.acsis-scasi.org *E*xecutive Consultant. [ Compsoftnet Enterprise ] Nigeria *T*echnical Consultant [ RetailPoint ] Lagos Website: www.retailpos.com.ng *W*eb Master [ Internet Governance Caucus ] Website: www.igcaucus.org *Phone:* +2347-0638-30177, +2348-1874-76292 *twitter:* @compsoftnet *Skype:* akinremi.peter *Office:* Off old Ota Road, Alagbado,Lagos * Quote: *If you do not trust yourself, how can you trust others. *Quote:* People speaks from their perspective, does it mean they are right? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 12:37 AM, Helani Galpaya wrote: > > Let me add to Chennai's email below. > We (LIRNEasia) are in particular interested in finding researchers who > have expertise in working in Cambodia, understand the ICT sector and > policy/regulatory situation in the country (inclusive of the IG situation), > and who speak local languages. > Please contact info at lirneasia.net addressed to me (Helani) and the > heading "Beyond Access Survey". > Thanks and regards, > Helani > > Helani Galpaya > LIRNEasia > www.lirneasia.net > +94 77 3600 766 (m-LK); +44 7415 865222 (m-UK) > > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 7:57 AM, Chenai Chair < > cchair at researchictafrica.net> wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> Although this is Africa specific it might be helpful for anyone looking >> out for evidence on internet access and use indicators in the region. >> >> RIA, a non-profit think tank focused on building evidence for ICT policy >> and regulation, will be resuming the Household and Individual ICT access >> and use survey again in January 2017 after a funding interregnum. This >> round includes, nine African countries (Kenya, Ghana, Kenya, Nigeria, >> Rwanda, Tanzania, Mozambique, South Africa and Lesotho). The surveys are >> part of a global initiative on producing much needed quality data on ICT >> access and use in the global south. RIA will also co-ordinate the surveys >> with their sister networks LIRNEasia in four Asian countries (India, >> Pakistan, Bangladesh and Cambodia) and DIRSI in five Latin American (Peru, >> Guatemala, Colombia, Argentina and Chile). >> >> There are several opportunities for research topics for PhD, Masters or >> post-doc students from these surveys. Any students who would like to >> collaborate on this either through the data gathering and data analysis >> process or just wish to work independently with the dataset once it >> available, can *contact admin at researchICTafrica.net >> .* >> >> Further information on research areas can be found here: >> http://www.researchictafrica.net/home.php?h=199 >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chenai >> >> >> Chenai Chair >> Researcher & >> Communications & Evaluation Advisor >> Research ICT Africa >> Unit 409, Old Castle Brewery >> 6 Beach Road >> Woodstock, Cape Town, 7925 >> South Africa >> T: +27 71 447 6332 <+27%2071%20447%206332> >> f:www.facebook.com/researchICTafrica.ne >> t >> t: @RIAnetwork >> >> See www.researchICTafrica.net for most recent policy research papers >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- *Akinremi Peter Taiwo* [ West Africa Coordinator ] Pan African Civil Society on Information Society (*ACSIS*) *Website: *www.acsis-scasi.org *E*xecutive Consultant. [ Compsoftnet Enterprise ] Nigeria *T*echnical Consultant [ RetailPoint ] Lagos Website: www.retailpos.com.ng *W*eb Master [ Internet Governance Caucus ] Website: www.igcaucus.org *Phone:* +2347-0638-30177, +2348-1874-76292 *twitter:* @compsoftnet *Skype:* akinremi.peter *Office:* Off old Ota Road, Alagbado,Lagos * Quote: *If you do not trust yourself, how can you trust others. *Quote:* People speaks from their perspective, does it mean they are right? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This > round includes, nine African countries (Kenya, Ghana, Kenya, Nigeria, > Rwanda, Tanzania, Mozambique, South Africa and Lesotho). The surveys are > part of a global initiative on producing much needed quality data on ICT > access and use in the global south. RIA will also co-ordinate the surveys > with their sister networks LIRNEasia in four Asian countries (India, > Pakistan, Bangladesh and Cambodia) and DIRSI in five Latin American (Peru, > Guatemala, Colombia, Argentina and Chile). > > There are several opportunities for research topics for PhD, Masters or > post-doc students from these surveys. Any students who would like to > collaborate on this either through the data gathering and data analysis > process or just wish to work independently with the dataset once it > available, can *contact admin at researchICTafrica.net > .* > > Further information on research areas can be found here: http://www. > researchictafrica.net/home.php?h=199 > > Thanks, > > Chenai > > > Chenai Chair > Researcher & > Communications & Evaluation Advisor > Research ICT Africa > Unit 409, Old Castle Brewery > 6 Beach Road > Woodstock, Cape Town, 7925 > South Africa > T: +27 71 447 6332 > f:www.facebook.com/researchICTafrica.ne > t > t: @RIAnetwork > > See www.researchICTafrica.net for most recent policy research papers > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de Wed Jan 18 09:55:40 2017 From: wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Kleinw=E4chter=2C_Wolfgang=22?=) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 15:55:40 +0100 Subject: AW: [governance] [Internet Policy] WEBCAST Jan 24: Will The Internet Always Be American? References: <96e04849-d11b-0a6b-d95e-200b6198a5df@riseup.net> <5460e96f-2b3e-c334-de72-e2e6c8eb92a5@riseup.net> <2e747c18-17e7-d25e-ef9c-2e67608fd8b4@isi.edu> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B26A@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B26B@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Carsten: Any further weisenheimery contributions of this kind, anyone? Wolfgang: We had Berlin, wie had West-Berlin, we had East-Berlin, we had Berlin the capital of the German Democratic Republic, wie had the Land Berlin and Berlin Hauptbahnhof was in East Berlin. BTW, the new Berlin Hauptbahnhof is what was in the good old times Westberlin. With other words: We had nearly everything. Wofgang -C. > On 01/18/17 03:04, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" wrote: >> BTW, in the 80s we had - at the Minimum - four definitions of Europe. >> 1. Europe as the a greographicaly unit from Iceland to the Urals (part of the Soviet Union, including the Caucasian republics but excluding the sein republics) >> 2. Europe as the member states of the CSCE (from Vancouver to Vladiwostok) >> 3. Europe as the member states of the EU (at this time it was 15) >> 4. Europe (from a UK perspective) as "the continent", excluding the UK _______________________________________________ To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, please log into the ISOC Member Portal: https://portal.isoc.org/ Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From srajukanumuri at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 01:07:13 2017 From: srajukanumuri at gmail.com (srajukanumuri) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 11:37:13 +0530 Subject: [governance] [Internet Policy] WEBCAST Jan 24: Will The Internet Always Be American? In-Reply-To: <01489627-6871-444E-8790-3DBA90093EA7@frobbit.se> References: <96e04849-d11b-0a6b-d95e-200b6198a5df@riseup.net> <5460e96f-2b3e-c334-de72-e2e6c8eb92a5@riseup.net> <2e747c18-17e7-d25e-ef9c-2e67608fd8b4@isi.edu> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B26A@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <01489627-6871-444E-8790-3DBA90093EA7@frobbit.se> Message-ID: hi veni and one and all , East west Europe r one and also all Scandinavian countries will come under Norway / Swiss and LASTLY EAST WEST R REALLY BECOMING LEFT AND RIGHT AND MORE CENTRAL NORTH SOUTH ARE CRUSHING AS ALL THESE POLES WONT ATTARACT EACH OTHER . WE DIDN'T KNOW WHEN CAN WE SEE FEEL " LIKE INTERNET POLES " ALL OVER WORLD ONCE AGAIN IN NEXT 20 YEARS AS EVERY INNOVATION / DESTRUCTION INDUSTRIAL CYCLE IS 15 YRS TO 2O ? LET US PRAY WINTER SEASON TO SAVE MORE PEOPLE IN EAST EUROPE SUFFERING. GLOBAL WARMING . THANK YOU ALL. 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On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 12:18 AM, Patrik Fältström wrote: > On 18 Jan 2017, at 8:24, Carsten Schiefner wrote: > > > Also well known to some as Scandinavia resp. the Scandinavian Countries. > > Not even people living here know what that term means... > > Scandinavia> > > paf > > _______________________________________________ > To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, > please log into the ISOC Member Portal: > https://portal.isoc.org/ > Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This format of HLTFs was really appreciated last year as it gave a chance for stakeholders to interact better with ministers and other high levels. Though the deadline is over we are reaching out to you as we didn’t hear from the civil society coordination group yet yet. Since your coordination group is already well organized in identifying representatives from Civil Society we would encourage you to please circulate the message below as our intention is that Civil Society is well represented in this activity, we could extend the deadline till 1st February - At the WSIS Forum 2017, the High-Level Policy Sessions of the High-level Track (HLT) will take place on the 13 and 14 June. Moderation: High level Track Facilitators (HLTF) The Policy Sessions will be moderated by High-Level Track Facilitators (HLTF) nominated and identified by each stakeholder type i.e Government, Private Sector, Civil Society, Technical/ Academic community and International Organization. Each stakeholder type is invited to launch an Open Call to identify HLTF to represent their respective communities. The names of the nominated representatives should be submitted to the WSIS Secretariat at wsis-info at itu.int by 15 January 2017. Please note that all HLTFs are to cover their own expenses for travel, accommodation and insurance. The main task of the HLTF is to capture the vision, Identify emerging trends, opportunities and challenges shared by the leaders of their session. Moderation: High level Track Facilitators (HLTF) The concluding session of the HLT will take place on the 14 of June. During the concluding session of the HLT the WSIS Forum 2017 Chairman will provide an Executive Summary, giving a platform for all the HLTFs to submit the outcomes of their respective policy session. These will be captured in a publication entitled “WSIS Forum 2017: Policy Statements and Executive Brief” -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Arsene, IGC Co-coordinator ------------------------ **Arsène Tungali** Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international *, CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum * Tel: +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico ) - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Here is the corrected timeline and hope you will be able to send in your interest following the timeline: *From 23 to 25th January*: the call will be circulated in different networks (now on the IGC list). *Very important to note*: *All HLTFs are to cover their own expenses for travel, accommodation and insurance. The main task of the HLTF is to capture the vision, Identify emerging trends, opportunities and challenges shared by the leaders of their session.* Should you have any question, do not hesitate. Regards, Arsene ------------------------ **Arsène Tungali** Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international *, CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum * Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> GPG: 523644A0 *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico ) - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK 2017-01-22 18:14 GMT+02:00 Analia Aspis : > Dear all, > > CSCG has launched a call to receive expression of interest to become Hight > Level Track Facilitator taks at the WSIS Forum 2017. > > *Please notice that is is a non-funded call.* > > > *Deadline to receive your expression of interest to be considered by the > CSCG as a possible candidate is until 25th February.* > > > *Please send your interest to governance at lists.igcaucus.org > * > Best, > Analía and Arsene > IGC Co-coordinators > > > > *Details of the call:*This is to bring your attention to the Open Call to > Identify High Level Track Facilitators from Civil Society for the > High-level Policy Sessions for WSIS Forum 2017. This format of HLTFs was > really appreciated last year as it gave a chance for stakeholders to > interact better with ministers and other high levels. Though the deadline > is over we are reaching out to you as we didn’t hear from the civil society > coordination group yet yet. Since your coordination group is already well > organized in identifying representatives from Civil Society we would > encourage you to please circulate the message below as our intention is > that Civil Society is well represented in this activity, we could extend > the deadline till 1st February - > > > > At the WSIS Forum 2017, the High-Level Policy Sessions of the High-level > Track (HLT) will take place on the 13 and 14 June. > > > > Moderation: High level Track Facilitators (HLTF) > > The Policy Sessions will be moderated by High-Level Track Facilitators > (HLTF) nominated and identified by each stakeholder type i.e Government, > Private Sector, Civil Society, Technical/ Academic community and > International Organization. Each stakeholder type is invited to launch an > Open Call to identify HLTF to represent their respective communities. The > names of the nominated representatives should be submitted to the WSIS > Secretariat at wsis-info at itu.int by 15 January 2017. Please note that all > HLTFs are to cover their own expenses for travel, accommodation and > insurance. The main task of the HLTF is to capture the vision, Identify > emerging trends, opportunities and challenges shared by the leaders of > their session. > > > Moderation: High level Track Facilitators (HLTF) > The concluding session of the HLT will take place on the 14 of June. > During the concluding session of the HLT the WSIS Forum 2017 Chairman will > provide an Executive Summary, giving a platform for all the HLTFs to submit > the outcomes of their respective policy session. These will be captured in > a publication entitled “WSIS Forum 2017: Policy Statements and Executive > Brief” > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From willi.uebelherr at riseup.net Sun Jan 22 16:45:44 2017 From: willi.uebelherr at riseup.net (willi uebelherr) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 18:45:44 -0300 Subject: [governance] Internet Governance Outlook 2017: Nationalistic Hierarchies vs. Multistakeholder Networks? Message-ID: Internet Governance Outlook 2017: Nationalistic Hierarchies vs. Multistakeholder Networks? By Wolfgang Kleinwächter, Jan 06, 2017 http://www.circleid.com/posts/20160106_internet_outlook_2017_nationalistic_hierarchies_multistakeholder/ Dear friends, Wolfgang Kleinwaechter has made an outlook on the year 2017 and looks scared at the strengthening of regional self-control, which he calls "Nationalistic Hierarchies". But he ignores today's "Inter-Nationalistic hierarchies", which also work with "multistakeholder networks". Wolfgang Kleinwaechter, whom I estimate very highly, is strictly interested in an open Internet based on "multistakeholder networks". And that's what he does. But he does not see the snares that he put itself at his feet. IANA Transition and the Chinese Cybersecurity Law In the text is asserted that the IANA Transition is a "bottom-up" and the Chinese Law a "top-down" development process. Of course, we can say many things. But if we know a little bit about the USA, we know, that a bottom-up method in the telecommunication will be impossible in the USA. This, because the actors are the centralistic state and the centralistic private groups. In such an environment a bottom-up process is impossible. For China, where the telecommunication is a project of the society, there it can be possible. Also in Russia and Iran. But never in Europe today. And absolutly never in Germany today. The space of possibilities for telecommunication is primary defined from the inner structure of a society. Only if the actors don't have his private interests, that are oriented against the other actors, they can really cooperate. In China and Russland and Iran they can transform the connection infrastructure to a net-structure, the base condition for a bottom-up development process in the telecommunication. For Europe and North America with his fighter groups every one against all others it will be impossible. Only if the Communities start as actors in the space of community networks, then they can do it. This, because the telecommunication stays for them in the foreground. This activity space for an open telecommunication, a pre-condition for the connectivity structure and the summary of all forms of telecommunication like web-pages and data-files, audio/video streams, telefon, radio and tv, brings us to a level that we can say: 3 types of data (text, grafic, speech) and 2 forms of transport (asynchron, synchron). Wolfgang wrote about "ideologically overloaded Internet Governance language" and means China. But all documents from the IGF, what i have read, are pure "ideologically overloaded Internet Governance language". Never you find any conrete discussion about the basics of telecommunication. You find only phraseology. The Internet Governance Ecosystem as a "Virtual Rainforest" I don't know, where Wolfgang live. But i know, we have to separate our strong analysis of a real system and our dreams, our visions. I know, without our dreams we will be unable to create our visions and perspectives. Therefore, we can spaek about opportunities, that really exist. But they remain opportunities and are unreal, virtual. Then we can go deeper and look for the specific actors. We analyse her interst and her bases of her being. Then we understand, what opportunities we have with this actors. This is the driving motor for the community networks. Because they see clear, what space of activities they have with this real actors. Therefore they create another space of actors with a much greater space of opportunities. The existence of diversity need the decentralisation and parallelisation. In the nature, of course. But if we want to use our methodology for centralisation in an act for diversity, we will fail. US vs. China: Chances for a Digital Detente The only risk of a "hot cyberwar" i see it in the USA. NSA, home security and all this many security services. The most people on our planet know it. How it is possible, that a high active person like Wolfgang in the UN IGF environment don't know it? Maybe, he know, but don't like it and create his virtual reality? Then he live in another space. Outside of our space. I don't know where. Wolfgang wrote about the "National Cyberspace Security Strategy" from China "for treason, secession, revolt, subversion or stealing or leaking of state secrets would be punished". But the same is valid for USA, Canada, all european countries. We see it with Daniel Ellsberg, Eric Snowden, Julian Assange, Chelsea Manning and many many others from so many countries in all centuries. Go to the Wikipedia and search Whistleblowers. Analyse her doing and her repression. Then we understand, that this theme have no specific value for USA and China. It is embedded in the general conflict between people and state. And because the state act for the rich group in her region, the conflict is between the poor and the rich people. Or, like Stiglitz say, between the 99% and the 1%. And i will say very clear. As long as this UN IGF groups act in the same separated space outside of the public space, based on her traditional representative self-imagination, they will never be part of a creative transition for our global interconnection in the telecommunication. And endless chain of governmental and non-governmental negotiations Summit Meetings This is the only thing, what they have and for what they are interested. It is based on the functions for what they are created. Remaining Peace between ICANN and ITU? "... 1000 new gTLDs ... 25 million with gTLD .. is not bad." Wolfgang Kleinwaechter don't understand the principles of an open telecommunication in form of an InterNet. Our focus are the ccTLDs and not the private gTLDs to make domain business. But this is more a question to our philosophy. Are we intersted to be slaves of some big Dollar groups or are we intersted for an open global working telecommunication. Every person itself have to find her answer. The Key Role of the IGF ".. that the IGF has matured". I can say very clear NO. It is the same "kindergarten" since his beginning. They act in a virtual space, are driven from group egoism everywhere, are observers of observers ... and don't have his own clear perspectives. Of course, they have the potential to formulate clear principles of an open globally telecommunication. But they don't like that to do. They like more to act as soldiers for others. We have the same situation in the ISOC, the Internet Society. It is clear, this is a society without any specific relation to state, private companies or governments. They act outside of this nationalism. Or should do it. UN IGF and ISOC can have a big power, if they are responsible to the people and not to the power groups. With her regional chapters they can help to distribute our discussions and proposals over the planet. But today, we can say, they don't do it, because they don't like to do it. Maybe, it is a result of her financial base for her event-tourism. But if we work for telecommunication, we should start to use it for our interaction and not to travel around the planet. We can reduce the efforts and can opening the space on this way. "... the failure of ACTA, the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) or the Trans-Atlantic Trade and Investment Pact (TTIP) is the result of this clash of cultures". This is a big nonsense. The diversity in our local/regional cultures is the reality and we love it. And we need it. The conflicts comes from small power groups against the world population, the people on our planet in her different regions. And we know, that today also the people in her region have not developed her power for self-organising and self-determination. The regionale elites act for the global elites and not for the local people. ".. discussing IOT related issues". There don't exist specific IOT related issues. It exist issues to the routing mechanism based on the IP addresses. If we use our intelligence for this issues we will never organise this nonsense, what we have today. ... Basket 4: Technology ".. the technological development as such has become an issue in itself". I know, Wolfgang don't understand the technology. So, we have to explain: The technology was and is always the base of telecommunication. Therefore, for us, the technology always stay in the center. And not the cheap chatters in any meetings or IGF proposals. Looking Ahead: Everything is linked to Everything Yes, dear Wolfgang. "We have to design global discussions and negotiations" on telecommunication, and not on Internet Governance. If we need Governance, then we make some errors. "The Internet is a network of networks, connected via universal technical protocols". No, Wolfgang. The protocols do nothing. The interconnection, the transport of packets, do that. The protocols are only necessary, that we do the same thing and understand, how the others work. The attempt of a resume If we act on false bases then we are unable to find good solutions. Independent, how strong we work. I you, Wolfgang, start with negation of regional self-determination and act on the base of global top-down formation then you will be never able to find good ways. Then you live in a circle of self-explanations. You act in your own ideologic space without the connection to the reality. Of course, you can do it. And maybe, this is your job to do it. The starting point for us is, that all people on our planet can use this global telecommunication system to interconnect herself with any other people on our planet. For what is her decision. The easiest way to do that is the way of strong decentralisation. Then the people in all and any region on our planet can create her part of our global telecommunication. That all this people can independent act we create our global network for free technology. In the text to Internet Fragmentation, what you wrote together with V.Cerf and W.Drake, you wrote about: "From a technical standpoint, the original shared vision guiding the Internet’s development was that every device on the Internet should be able to exchange data packets with any other device that was willing to receive them". We know from Albert Einstein: "The genius is always simple" This principles we can follow. Why you, Wolfgang, follow this confusion in the UN IGF, i don't understand. Based on our physical interconnection we can implement very easy mechanism, that the packets find her way through the routers. With a decentralised DNS system based on ccTLDs it is very easy for us to get any IP address from any host in any gloabal region. In general, it is the responsiblity for the people in the different regions to organise, what they need. And we, in the UN IGF and ISOC, and i hope also in the World Social Forums, we can support the people everywhere to do itself. many greetings, willi Asuncion, Paraguay -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From srajukanumuri at gmail.com Mon Jan 23 00:30:48 2017 From: srajukanumuri at gmail.com (srajukanumuri) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 11:00:48 +0530 Subject: [governance] [Internet Policy] Internet Governance Outlook 2017: Nationalistic Hierarchies vs. Multistakeholder Networks? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Friends , Every country have its own priorities about their growth ,to become global Ramabo or Regional Rambo;s to have say in the region for power commerce and lastly to save territorial sovereignty at cost of developing countries poor countries and lastly United nation top 7 countries trying to control every thing or have stamp " SUPER POWER " and present Geo political differences. Is Globalization is bad or good we communities of world must decide and also we must decide " open Internet " secure internet and " good and honest " internet locally regionally country wide and globally r also important to save every bodies privacy and also self growth rather than 1 percent of world's rich and lastly every body must be secured and must given opportunity to have happy monthly income. LAN , MAN , WAN , SAN ( states Areas Net ), CAN ( country Area Net ) LANGNET ( launguge nets ) ,DAN ( district area Net ) intra netsextra intra nets Intra extra nets etc needs of people / thinking is important and also different, As village person , un educated person my needs are local and my district wise my sate wise it is enough for me to live happy and lastly more fake news fake info excess info is really killing humanity and also communication packets are distracting in different forms from origin to destination this waves are also getting converted based on local politicians needs and media powers and millions of news sites / Individual blogs etc the human nets may be divided into MAN ( man area Nets ) , WAN ( woman area nets ) GAN ( Gay area nets ) , LIsN( lesbian Area nets ) AAN ( Animals Area Net), EAN ( ECOSYSTEM AREA NET) . All human rights , liberty are one and living needs are one. ( food house energy security health health spirituality ) etc our brains have three different minds fore brain mid brain and hind brain .like wise the news fore caste middle caste hidden caste which is rich middle class poor connected with three types of knowledge to decide communities to vote left right and center wing parties. Let us vote for one internet which can serve people at local communities needed and lastly for every family / human 49 connected people in their 70 years living ( 7 10 years cycles ) , 7 root keys for Internet is important and these are divided into husband wife girl child boy child , one friend tell they are good , one enemy to tell they are bad and one neutrality to say yes or no or lastly Global " GODSNET " to make net earth net to be " ZERO " OR " ONE " lastly " SILENT " states to make Internet destiny and global life 's destiny in place to live for next 1000 years make self sustainable earth cycle's to move on for ever . And lastly For better life HUMAN GOVERNANCE is imp that is rules and regulations for every house to serve humanities , eco system was written already. but humans wont follow. ? But *constituent ANALYSIS *of education , Reforms , empowerment , Nirvana of races can do miracles .To create new better World happy world. Good day to you all and lets us create new disruptions in next three years before next elections for new leaders crazy leaders etc " We Connect human contacts " " We make net to think and act " " Survival is h-commerce -human commerce or human knowledge commerce based on Bartering of knowledge Globally with out money as instrument " -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- kkkrkstrust - Social and community empowerment and support services Create Green world: Share your Knowledge to make India Green - Eco System and self sustainability of world through communities and Internet technologies collaboration knowledge collaboration commerce sustainable smart villages to connect next 3.4 billion people. [image: --] On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 3:15 AM, willi uebelherr wrote: > > Internet Governance Outlook 2017: Nationalistic Hierarchies vs. > Multistakeholder Networks? > By Wolfgang Kleinwächter, Jan 06, 2017 > http://www.circleid.com/posts/20160106_internet_outlook_2017 > _nationalistic_hierarchies_multistakeholder/ > > Dear friends, > > Wolfgang Kleinwaechter has made an outlook on the year 2017 and looks > scared at the strengthening of regional self-control, which he calls > "Nationalistic Hierarchies". But he ignores today's "Inter-Nationalistic > hierarchies", which also work with "multistakeholder networks". > > Wolfgang Kleinwaechter, whom I estimate very highly, is strictly > interested in an open Internet based on "multistakeholder networks". And > that's what he does. But he does not see the snares that he put itself at > his feet. > > IANA Transition and the Chinese Cybersecurity Law > > In the text is asserted that the IANA Transition is a "bottom-up" and the > Chinese Law a "top-down" development process. Of course, we can say many > things. But if we know a little bit about the USA, we know, that a > bottom-up method in the telecommunication will be impossible in the USA. > This, because the actors are the centralistic state and the centralistic > private groups. In such an environment a bottom-up process is impossible. > > For China, where the telecommunication is a project of the society, there > it can be possible. Also in Russia and Iran. But never in Europe today. And > absolutly never in Germany today. The space of possibilities for > telecommunication is primary defined from the inner structure of a society. > Only if the actors don't have his private interests, that are oriented > against the other actors, they can really cooperate. > > In China and Russland and Iran they can transform the connection > infrastructure to a net-structure, the base condition for a bottom-up > development process in the telecommunication. For Europe and North America > with his fighter groups every one against all others it will be impossible. > Only if the Communities start as actors in the space of community networks, > then they can do it. This, because the telecommunication stays for them in > the foreground. > > This activity space for an open telecommunication, a pre-condition for the > connectivity structure and the summary of all forms of telecommunication > like web-pages and data-files, audio/video streams, telefon, radio and tv, > brings us to a level that we can say: 3 types of data (text, grafic, > speech) and 2 forms of transport (asynchron, synchron). > > Wolfgang wrote about "ideologically overloaded Internet Governance > language" and means China. But all documents from the IGF, what i have > read, are pure "ideologically overloaded Internet Governance language". > Never you find any conrete discussion about the basics of > telecommunication. You find only phraseology. > > The Internet Governance Ecosystem as a "Virtual Rainforest" > > I don't know, where Wolfgang live. But i know, we have to separate our > strong analysis of a real system and our dreams, our visions. I know, > without our dreams we will be unable to create our visions and > perspectives. Therefore, we can spaek about opportunities, that really > exist. But they remain opportunities and are unreal, virtual. > > Then we can go deeper and look for the specific actors. We analyse her > interst and her bases of her being. Then we understand, what opportunities > we have with this actors. > > This is the driving motor for the community networks. Because they see > clear, what space of activities they have with this real actors. Therefore > they create another space of actors with a much greater space of > opportunities. > > The existence of diversity need the decentralisation and parallelisation. > In the nature, of course. But if we want to use our methodology for > centralisation in an act for diversity, we will fail. > > US vs. China: Chances for a Digital Detente > > The only risk of a "hot cyberwar" i see it in the USA. NSA, home security > and all this many security services. The most people on our planet know it. > How it is possible, that a high active person like Wolfgang in the UN IGF > environment don't know it? Maybe, he know, but don't like it and create his > virtual reality? Then he live in another space. Outside of our space. I > don't know where. > > Wolfgang wrote about the "National Cyberspace Security Strategy" from > China "for treason, secession, revolt, subversion or stealing or leaking of > state secrets would be punished". But the same is valid for USA, Canada, > all european countries. We see it with Daniel Ellsberg, Eric Snowden, > Julian Assange, Chelsea Manning and many many others from so many countries > in all centuries. Go to the Wikipedia and search Whistleblowers. Analyse > her doing and her repression. Then we understand, that this theme have no > specific value for USA and China. > > It is embedded in the general conflict between people and state. And > because the state act for the rich group in her region, the conflict is > between the poor and the rich people. Or, like Stiglitz say, between the > 99% and the 1%. > > And i will say very clear. As long as this UN IGF groups act in the same > separated space outside of the public space, based on her traditional > representative self-imagination, they will never be part of a creative > transition for our global interconnection in the telecommunication. > > And endless chain of governmental and non-governmental negotiations > Summit Meetings > > This is the only thing, what they have and for what they are interested. > It is based on the functions for what they are created. > > Remaining Peace between ICANN and ITU? > > "... 1000 new gTLDs ... 25 million with gTLD .. is not bad." > > Wolfgang Kleinwaechter don't understand the principles of an open > telecommunication in form of an InterNet. Our focus are the ccTLDs and not > the private gTLDs to make domain business. But this is more a question to > our philosophy. Are we intersted to be slaves of some big Dollar groups or > are we intersted for an open global working telecommunication. Every person > itself have to find her answer. > > The Key Role of the IGF > > ".. that the IGF has matured". I can say very clear NO. It is the same > "kindergarten" since his beginning. They act in a virtual space, are driven > from group egoism everywhere, are observers of observers ... and don't have > his own clear perspectives. > > Of course, they have the potential to formulate clear principles of an > open globally telecommunication. But they don't like that to do. They like > more to act as soldiers for others. > > We have the same situation in the ISOC, the Internet Society. It is clear, > this is a society without any specific relation to state, private companies > or governments. They act outside of this nationalism. Or should do it. > > UN IGF and ISOC can have a big power, if they are responsible to the > people and not to the power groups. With her regional chapters they can > help to distribute our discussions and proposals over the planet. But > today, we can say, they don't do it, because they don't like to do it. > > Maybe, it is a result of her financial base for her event-tourism. But if > we work for telecommunication, we should start to use it for our > interaction and not to travel around the planet. We can reduce the efforts > and can opening the space on this way. > > "... the failure of ACTA, the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) or the > Trans-Atlantic Trade and Investment Pact (TTIP) is the result of this clash > of cultures". This is a big nonsense. The diversity in our local/regional > cultures is the reality and we love it. And we need it. > > The conflicts comes from small power groups against the world population, > the people on our planet in her different regions. And we know, that today > also the people in her region have not developed her power for > self-organising and self-determination. The regionale elites act for the > global elites and not for the local people. > > ".. discussing IOT related issues". There don't exist specific IOT related > issues. It exist issues to the routing mechanism based on the IP addresses. > If we use our intelligence for this issues we will never organise this > nonsense, what we have today. > > ... > Basket 4: Technology > > ".. the technological development as such has become an issue in itself". > I know, Wolfgang don't understand the technology. So, we have to explain: > The technology was and is always the base of telecommunication. Therefore, > for us, the technology always stay in the center. And not the cheap > chatters in any meetings or IGF proposals. > > Looking Ahead: Everything is linked to Everything > > Yes, dear Wolfgang. "We have to design global discussions and > negotiations" on telecommunication, and not on Internet Governance. If we > need Governance, then we make some errors. > > "The Internet is a network of networks, connected via universal technical > protocols". No, Wolfgang. The protocols do nothing. The interconnection, > the transport of packets, do that. The protocols are only necessary, that > we do the same thing and understand, how the others work. > > The attempt of a resume > > If we act on false bases then we are unable to find good solutions. > Independent, how strong we work. I you, Wolfgang, start with negation of > regional self-determination and act on the base of global top-down > formation then you will be never able to find good ways. Then you live in a > circle of self-explanations. You act in your own ideologic space without > the connection to the reality. > > Of course, you can do it. And maybe, this is your job to do it. > > The starting point for us is, that all people on our planet can use this > global telecommunication system to interconnect herself with any other > people on our planet. For what is her decision. > > The easiest way to do that is the way of strong decentralisation. Then the > people in all and any region on our planet can create her part of our > global telecommunication. That all this people can independent act we > create our global network for free technology. > > In the text to Internet Fragmentation, what you wrote together with V.Cerf > and W.Drake, you wrote about: > "From a technical standpoint, the original shared vision guiding the > Internet’s development was that every device on the Internet should be able > to exchange data packets with any other device that was willing to receive > them". > > We know from Albert Einstein: > "The genius is always simple" > > This principles we can follow. Why you, Wolfgang, follow this confusion in > the UN IGF, i don't understand. > > Based on our physical interconnection we can implement very easy > mechanism, that the packets find her way through the routers. > > With a decentralised DNS system based on ccTLDs it is very easy for us to > get any IP address from any host in any gloabal region. > > In general, it is the responsiblity for the people in the different > regions to organise, what they need. And we, in the UN IGF and ISOC, and i > hope also in the World Social Forums, we can support the people everywhere > to do itself. > > many greetings, willi > Asuncion, Paraguay > > _______________________________________________ > To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, > please log into the ISOC Member Portal: > https://portal.isoc.org/ > Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There is a call for civil society High Level Track Facilitators. Please let us know either directly to the list or if you prefer, to me privately in the next couple of days (*by the 25th of January*) if you are interested in being a facilitator and representing civil society in general (and being put forward with the support of the IGC) and I will pass on your interest to the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG). Please not that this does not come with any support to attend the WSIS Forum, so you will need to be able to attend the forum using other resources. This position is purely the opportunity to do some extra work at the forum that may help achieve useful outcomes. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From anriette at apc.org Wed Jan 25 05:24:53 2017 From: anriette at apc.org (Anriette Esterhuysen) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 12:24:53 +0200 Subject: [governance] Second WGEC meeting26-27 January 2017, Geneva In-Reply-To: <08da0df2-1f5a-d7e4-d5ff-b15e839d8f9c@apc.org> References: <08da0df2-1f5a-d7e4-d5ff-b15e839d8f9c@apc.org> Message-ID: <5a0b4d2f-e8d0-e1f7-3186-53743f9a2d0d@apc.org> Dear all I am in Geneva for the second meeting of the CSTD (Commission on Science and Technology for Development) Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation (WGEC). APC's and other inputs from members of the Working Group and from observers are available on the WGEC site: http://unctad.org/en/pages/MeetingDetails.aspx?meetingid=1215 CGI.br produced a synthesis document of the inputs which you can access here: http://unctad.org/meetings/en/SessionalDocuments/WGEC2016_m2_synthesis_en.pdf The provisional agenda is here: http://unctad.org/meetings/en/SessionalDocuments/cstd2017_WGEC_2_Agenda_en.pdf Any comments or suggestions welcome. I will try to keep you posted. Remote participation is only open to people who registered in advance. You can try to register here as observers: https://reg.unog.ch/event/17618/ Meeting starts tomorrow. Best Anriette ----------------------------------------- Anriette Esterhuysen Executive Director Association for Progressive Communications anriette at apc.org www.apc.org IM: ae_apc -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From arsenebaguma at gmail.com Wed Jan 25 06:11:36 2017 From: arsenebaguma at gmail.com (=?utf-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne_Tungali?=) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 13:11:36 +0200 Subject: [governance] Second WGEC meeting26-27 January 2017, Geneva In-Reply-To: <5a0b4d2f-e8d0-e1f7-3186-53743f9a2d0d@apc.org> References: <08da0df2-1f5a-d7e4-d5ff-b15e839d8f9c@apc.org> <5a0b4d2f-e8d0-e1f7-3186-53743f9a2d0d@apc.org> Message-ID: Thanks Anriette, Please do keep us posted of anything relevant to CS. And should you need anything from us, do not hesitate Go and represent! Arsene ----------------- Arsène Tungali, @arsenebaguma +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) > On Jan 25, 2017, at 12:24 PM, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote: > > Dear all > > I am in Geneva for the second meeting of the CSTD (Commission on Science > and Technology for Development) Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation > (WGEC). > > APC's and other inputs from members of the Working Group and from > observers are available on the WGEC site: > http://unctad.org/en/pages/MeetingDetails.aspx?meetingid=1215 > > CGI.br produced a synthesis document of the inputs which you can access > here: > http://unctad.org/meetings/en/SessionalDocuments/WGEC2016_m2_synthesis_en.pdf > > The provisional agenda is here: > http://unctad.org/meetings/en/SessionalDocuments/cstd2017_WGEC_2_Agenda_en.pdf > > Any comments or suggestions welcome. I will try to keep you posted. > Remote participation is only open to people who registered in advance. > You can try to register here as observers: https://reg.unog.ch/event/17618/ > > Meeting starts tomorrow. > > Best > > Anriette > > ----------------------------------------- > Anriette Esterhuysen > Executive Director > Association for Progressive Communications > anriette at apc.org > www.apc.org > IM: ae_apc > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From judith at jhellerstein.com Wed Jan 25 22:34:31 2017 From: judith at jhellerstein.com (Judith Hellerstein) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 22:34:31 -0500 Subject: [governance] Cameroon Shuts down the Internet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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What's going on in Cameroon is just a shame. For colleagues who have never experienced Internet shutdown, please understand that it is a nightmare. On this note about Cameroon, several organizations including Access Now and Internet Without Borders are doing a lot of advocacy and statements , letters have been sent to officials in Cameroon to ask them to bring back the Internet. A hashtag about this has been started and you can take action as well: #BringBackkOutInternet . You can learn more about the #KeepItOn campaign here . Eduard Snowden sent in a tweet where he said: "*This is the future of repression. If we do not fight it there, it will happen here*" and I cannot agree more with him because it is just going from one country to another. Over 8 countries in Africa, including mine the DRC, have experienced shutdown and no one knows who is next. Acces Now has reported 15 Internet shutdowns across the world in 2015 and 56 in 2016 If there is any question about all the statements and campaigns, I am happy to help or convey your questions since I am involved, on a personal capacity, in these movements advocating and fighting Internet shutdowns across Africa. Regards, Arsene PS: Copied is Deji Olukotun who works on Advocacy for Access Now. ------------------------ **Arsène Tungali** Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international *, CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum * Tel: +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico ) - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK 2017-01-26 5:34 GMT+02:00 Judith Hellerstein : > HI All, > > Just passing on a note from Mafor Edwan of ISOC Cameroon about the > Cameroonian Government shut down of the Internet in his country. > > I am at a loss for words of yet another country that has cut off Internet > Access for its citizens. Thanks to ISOC Cameroon for all their efforts to > resolve this crisis, even though they have not been successful, I am glad > that they have tried. I am a passionate believer in an open Internet. One > that is available to all. By connecting the world, working with others, and > advocating for equal access to the Internet, We can make the world a better > place. > Edwan hopes people can share this word about this and hopefully some one > can reach the President and tell him what a bad idea this is. I told him I > would share it around. Hope others can do the same > > Best, > Judith > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO > Hellerstein & Associates > 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 > Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein > E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com > Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ > Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide > > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] FYI- Constance's blog post about the G20 > - and the updated Internet Governance timeline > Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:49:53 -0500 > From: Queen Mother > To: Dan York > CC: ISOC Chapter Delegates > , Carl Gahnberg > > > Good evening Fellow ISOC Delegates, > > I bring you sad news about the state of internet access in my home country > Cameroon. > I have sobbed uncontrollably for weeks as the govt of my country tortures > and mimes her citizens and recently has cut off the ability to send > financial support to our families through western union and has now cut off > the internet. > > Please if you can read the articles below. > > Cameroon Cuts Internet in English-speaking Regions > > http://www.voanews.com/a/cameroon-cuts-internet-in- > english-speaking-regions/3682688.html > > How Cameroon pressured mobile operators to shut down the internet and > stifle dissent > > https://qz.com/893401/cameroon-pressured-mtn-and- > other-operators-to-shut-down-internet-in-bamenda-buea-regions/ > > Thank you. > Mafor edwan > Vice President #2 > ISOC Cameroon > > > _______________________________________________ >> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >> Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org >> > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From odamyte at gmail.com Thu Jan 26 07:26:08 2017 From: odamyte at gmail.com (Jacob Odame-Baiden) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 12:26:08 +0000 Subject: [governance] Cameroon Shuts down the Internet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is just not acceptable. The internet has become such crucial resource that any attempt to stifle its usage through limitation or denial should be utterly condemned. I hope this get's resolved as soon as possible. Br, Jacob On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 8:44 AM, Arsène Tungali wrote: > Hi Judith, > > Thanks for sharing this with us. What's going on in Cameroon is just a > shame. For colleagues who have never experienced Internet shutdown, please > understand that it is a nightmare. > > On this note about Cameroon, several organizations including Access Now > and Internet Without Borders > are > doing a lot of advocacy and statements > , > letters have been sent to officials in Cameroon to ask them to bring back > the Internet. A hashtag about this has been started and you can take action > as well: #BringBackkOutInternet > . > > You can learn more about the #KeepItOn > campaign here > . > > Eduard Snowden sent in a tweet > where he said: "*This > is the future of repression. If we do not fight it there, it will happen > here*" and I cannot agree more with him because it is just going from one > country to another. Over 8 countries in Africa, including mine the DRC, > have experienced shutdown and no one knows who is next. Acces Now has > reported 15 Internet shutdowns across > the world in 2015 and 56 in 2016 > > If there is any question about all the statements and campaigns, I am > happy to help or convey your questions since I am involved, on a personal > capacity, in these movements advocating and fighting Internet shutdowns > across Africa. > > Regards, > Arsene > > PS: Copied is Deji Olukotun who works on Advocacy for Access Now. > > > ------------------------ > **Arsène Tungali** > Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > *, > CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum > * > Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> > GPG: 523644A0 > *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > > 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > > (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > > & Mexico > ) > - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger > - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > & Marrakech > > ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius > > )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK > > > 2017-01-26 5:34 GMT+02:00 Judith Hellerstein : > >> HI All, >> >> Just passing on a note from Mafor Edwan of ISOC Cameroon about the >> Cameroonian Government shut down of the Internet in his country. >> >> I am at a loss for words of yet another country that has cut off Internet >> Access for its citizens. Thanks to ISOC Cameroon for all their efforts to >> resolve this crisis, even though they have not been successful, I am glad >> that they have tried. I am a passionate believer in an open Internet. One >> that is available to all. By connecting the world, working with others, and >> advocating for equal access to the Internet, We can make the world a better >> place. >> Edwan hopes people can share this word about this and hopefully some one >> can reach the President and tell him what a bad idea this is. I told him I >> would share it around. Hope others can do the same >> >> Best, >> Judith >> >> _________________________________________________________________________ >> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO >> Hellerstein & Associates >> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 >> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein >> E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com >> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ >> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide >> >> >> >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] FYI- Constance's blog post about the >> G20 - and the updated Internet Governance timeline >> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:49:53 -0500 >> From: Queen Mother >> To: Dan York >> CC: ISOC Chapter Delegates >> , Carl Gahnberg >> >> >> Good evening Fellow ISOC Delegates, >> >> I bring you sad news about the state of internet access in my home >> country Cameroon. >> I have sobbed uncontrollably for weeks as the govt of my country tortures >> and mimes her citizens and recently has cut off the ability to send >> financial support to our families through western union and has now cut off >> the internet. >> >> Please if you can read the articles below. >> >> Cameroon Cuts Internet in English-speaking Regions >> >> http://www.voanews.com/a/cameroon-cuts-internet-in-english- >> speaking-regions/3682688.html >> >> How Cameroon pressured mobile operators to shut down the internet and >> stifle dissent >> >> https://qz.com/893401/cameroon-pressured-mtn-and-other- >> operators-to-shut-down-internet-in-bamenda-buea-regions/ >> >> Thank you. >> Mafor edwan >> Vice President #2 >> ISOC Cameroon >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >>> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >>> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >>> Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org >>> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The TTIGF will include a panel discussion on the theme “The Role of the Internet and the Digita" [image: livestream] Today *Thursday January 26th, 2017* from *8am to Noon ET the* first * Trinidad and Tobago Internet Governance Forum * (TTIGF) will be held in Port of Spain, Trinidad. The TTIGF will include a panel discussion on the theme “*The Role of the Internet and the Digital Economy in the Sustainable Development of Trinidad and Tobago*”. 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On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Deji Bryce Olukotun wrote: > Thank you, Arsène for the introduction and the summary. > > Judith, as Arsène explained, the #KeepitOn coalition > (111 organizations from 51 countries) is > pushing back against the shutdown. Our efforts are being led by Julie Owono > from Internet Without Borders > > . > > At present, we are fighting the shutdown in several ways: > - open letter to government officials and agencies to restore access > - media outreach > - Tweet action at Cameroonian officials > > (please support!) > - outreach to telcos operating in the country, including a statement from > the Global Network Initiative > (Microsoft, > Google, Facebook, Investors, academics) > - outreach to international officials at the UN and AU > - coordination with local groups in Cameroon > - coordinating with CDN's and other measurement entities > > We welcome any ideas or suggestions about how to get the internet turned > back on. With each passing day, people are at increased risk of human > rights violations and the economy is losing money. We'll reach out to ISOC > to coordinate as well. > > Best, > Deji > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:44 AM, Arsène Tungali > wrote: > >> Hi Judith, >> >> Thanks for sharing this with us. What's going on in Cameroon is just a >> shame. For colleagues who have never experienced Internet shutdown, please >> understand that it is a nightmare. >> >> On this note about Cameroon, several organizations including Access Now >> and Internet Without Borders >> are >> doing a lot of advocacy and statements >> , >> letters have been sent to officials in Cameroon to ask them to bring back >> the Internet. A hashtag about this has been started and you can take action >> as well: #BringBackkOutInternet >> . >> >> You can learn more about the #KeepItOn >> campaign here >> . >> >> Eduard Snowden sent in a tweet >> where he said: "*This >> is the future of repression. If we do not fight it there, it will happen >> here*" and I cannot agree more with him because it is just going from >> one country to another. Over 8 countries in Africa, including mine the DRC, >> have experienced shutdown and no one knows who is next. Acces Now has >> reported 15 Internet shutdowns >> across the world in 2015 and 56 in 2016 >> >> If there is any question about all the statements and campaigns, I am >> happy to help or convey your questions since I am involved, on a personal >> capacity, in these movements advocating and fighting Internet shutdowns >> across Africa. >> >> Regards, >> Arsene >> >> PS: Copied is Deji Olukotun who works on Advocacy for Access Now. >> >> >> ------------------------ >> **Arsène Tungali** >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >> *, >> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum >> * >> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> >> GPG: 523644A0 >> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >> >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >> >> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >> >> & Mexico >> ) >> - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger >> - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >> & Marrakech >> >> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >> >> )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >> >> >> 2017-01-26 5:34 GMT+02:00 Judith Hellerstein : >> >>> HI All, >>> >>> Just passing on a note from Mafor Edwan of ISOC Cameroon about the >>> Cameroonian Government shut down of the Internet in his country. >>> >>> I am at a loss for words of yet another country that has cut off >>> Internet Access for its citizens. Thanks to ISOC Cameroon for all their >>> efforts to resolve this crisis, even though they have not been successful, >>> I am glad that they have tried. I am a passionate believer in an open >>> Internet. One that is available to all. By connecting the world, working >>> with others, and advocating for equal access to the Internet, We can make >>> the world a better place. >>> Edwan hopes people can share this word about this and hopefully some one >>> can reach the President and tell him what a bad idea this is. I told him I >>> would share it around. Hope others can do the same >>> >>> Best, >>> Judith >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________________ >>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO >>> Hellerstein & Associates >>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 >>> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein >>> E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com >>> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ >>> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] FYI- Constance's blog post about the >>> G20 - and the updated Internet Governance timeline >>> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:49:53 -0500 >>> From: Queen Mother >>> To: Dan York >>> CC: ISOC Chapter Delegates >>> , Carl Gahnberg >>> >>> >>> Good evening Fellow ISOC Delegates, >>> >>> I bring you sad news about the state of internet access in my home >>> country Cameroon. >>> I have sobbed uncontrollably for weeks as the govt of my country >>> tortures and mimes her citizens and recently has cut off the ability to >>> send financial support to our families through western union and has now >>> cut off the internet. >>> >>> Please if you can read the articles below. >>> >>> Cameroon Cuts Internet in English-speaking Regions >>> >>> http://www.voanews.com/a/cameroon-cuts-internet-in-english-s >>> peaking-regions/3682688.html >>> >>> How Cameroon pressured mobile operators to shut down the internet and >>> stifle dissent >>> >>> https://qz.com/893401/cameroon-pressured-mtn-and-other-opera >>> tors-to-shut-down-internet-in-bamenda-buea-regions/ >>> >>> Thank you. >>> Mafor edwan >>> Vice President #2 >>> ISOC Cameroon >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >>>> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >>>> Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Deji Bryce Olukotun > Senior Global Advocacy Manager > Access Now | accessnow.org > > tel: +1 415-935-4572 <+1%20415-935-4572> | @dejiridoo > PGP: 0x6012CDA8 > Fingerprint: 3AEE 4194 F70E C806 A810 857A 6AD5 8F48 6012 CDA8 > > *Subscribe to our free weekly newsletter on digital rights, the Access Now > Express: *https://www.accessnow.org/campaign/#sign-up > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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These 2 regions actually has some political or social crisis. The government and other stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for suitable solutions. Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut these two regions of Internet access and Western Union money transfer services, for the sake of the entire population of these 2 regions. Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 regions. I'm sending this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. So the situation is not a disaster as some seem to publish on the Net. The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the government and the other stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even if it involves a temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union services. ISOC Cameroon Chapter President 2017-01-26 15:45 GMT+01:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro : > Hi > > Indeed, this is a terrible situation, which can happen in any country, > which is why everyone should take action. > I'd think bringing in ISOC and other organizations will help deepen these > efforts. > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Deji Bryce Olukotun > wrote: > >> Thank you, Arsène for the introduction and the summary. >> >> Judith, as Arsène explained, the #KeepitOn coalition >> (111 organizations from 51 countries) is >> pushing back against the shutdown. Our efforts are being led by Julie Owono >> from Internet Without Borders >> >> . >> >> At present, we are fighting the shutdown in several ways: >> - open letter to government officials and agencies to restore access >> - media outreach >> - Tweet action at Cameroonian officials >> >> (please support!) >> - outreach to telcos operating in the country, including a statement >> from the Global Network Initiative >> (Microsoft, >> Google, Facebook, Investors, academics) >> - outreach to international officials at the UN and AU >> - coordination with local groups in Cameroon >> - coordinating with CDN's and other measurement entities >> >> We welcome any ideas or suggestions about how to get the internet turned >> back on. With each passing day, people are at increased risk of human >> rights violations and the economy is losing money. We'll reach out to ISOC >> to coordinate as well. >> >> Best, >> Deji >> >> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:44 AM, Arsène Tungali >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Judith, >>> >>> Thanks for sharing this with us. What's going on in Cameroon is just a >>> shame. For colleagues who have never experienced Internet shutdown, please >>> understand that it is a nightmare. >>> >>> On this note about Cameroon, several organizations including Access Now >>> and Internet Without Borders >>> are >>> doing a lot of advocacy and statements >>> , >>> letters have been sent to officials in Cameroon to ask them to bring back >>> the Internet. A hashtag about this has been started and you can take action >>> as well: #BringBackkOutInternet >>> . >>> >>> You can learn more about the #KeepItOn >>> campaign here >>> . >>> >>> Eduard Snowden sent in a tweet >>> where he said: "*This >>> is the future of repression. If we do not fight it there, it will happen >>> here*" and I cannot agree more with him because it is just going from >>> one country to another. Over 8 countries in Africa, including mine the DRC, >>> have experienced shutdown and no one knows who is next. Acces Now has >>> reported 15 Internet shutdowns >>> across the world in 2015 and 56 in 2016 >>> >>> If there is any question about all the statements and campaigns, I am >>> happy to help or convey your questions since I am involved, on a personal >>> capacity, in these movements advocating and fighting Internet shutdowns >>> across Africa. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Arsene >>> >>> PS: Copied is Deji Olukotun who works on Advocacy for Access Now. >>> >>> >>> ------------------------ >>> **Arsène Tungali** >>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >>> *, >>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa >>> Forum * >>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> >>> GPG: 523644A0 >>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >>> >>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >>> >>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >>> >>> & Mexico >>> ) >>> - AFRISIG 2016 - >>> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >>> & Marrakech >>> >>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >>> >>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >>> >>> >>> 2017-01-26 5:34 GMT+02:00 Judith Hellerstein : >>> >>>> HI All, >>>> >>>> Just passing on a note from Mafor Edwan of ISOC Cameroon about the >>>> Cameroonian Government shut down of the Internet in his country. >>>> >>>> I am at a loss for words of yet another country that has cut off >>>> Internet Access for its citizens. Thanks to ISOC Cameroon for all their >>>> efforts to resolve this crisis, even though they have not been successful, >>>> I am glad that they have tried. I am a passionate believer in an open >>>> Internet. One that is available to all. By connecting the world, working >>>> with others, and advocating for equal access to the Internet, We can make >>>> the world a better place. >>>> Edwan hopes people can share this word about this and hopefully some >>>> one can reach the President and tell him what a bad idea this is. I told >>>> him I would share it around. Hope others can do the same >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Judith >>>> >>>> _________________________________________________________________________ >>>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO >>>> Hellerstein & Associates >>>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 >>>> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein >>>> E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com >>>> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ >>>> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >>>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] FYI- Constance's blog post about the >>>> G20 - and the updated Internet Governance timeline >>>> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:49:53 -0500 >>>> From: Queen Mother >>>> To: Dan York >>>> CC: ISOC Chapter Delegates >>>> , Carl Gahnberg >>>> >>>> >>>> Good evening Fellow ISOC Delegates, >>>> >>>> I bring you sad news about the state of internet access in my home >>>> country Cameroon. >>>> I have sobbed uncontrollably for weeks as the govt of my country >>>> tortures and mimes her citizens and recently has cut off the ability to >>>> send financial support to our families through western union and has now >>>> cut off the internet. >>>> >>>> Please if you can read the articles below. >>>> >>>> Cameroon Cuts Internet in English-speaking Regions >>>> >>>> http://www.voanews.com/a/cameroon-cuts-internet-in-english-s >>>> peaking-regions/3682688.html >>>> >>>> How Cameroon pressured mobile operators to shut down the internet and >>>> stifle dissent >>>> >>>> https://qz.com/893401/cameroon-pressured-mtn-and-other-opera >>>> tors-to-shut-down-internet-in-bamenda-buea-regions/ >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> Mafor edwan >>>> Vice President #2 >>>> ISOC Cameroon >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >>>>> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >>>>> Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Deji Bryce Olukotun >> Senior Global Advocacy Manager >> Access Now | accessnow.org >> >> tel: +1 415-935-4572 <+1%20415-935-4572> | @dejiridoo >> PGP: 0x6012CDA8 >> Fingerprint: 3AEE 4194 F70E C806 A810 857A 6AD5 8F48 6012 CDA8 >> >> *Subscribe to our free weekly newsletter on digital rights, the Access >> Now Express: *https://www.accessnow.org/campaign/#sign-up >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >> > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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What gain does it serve that you have access and your brother does not when the rest of the world are asking for internet access to be part of fundamental human rights. Those of us who are clamouring for free access very surely never mentioned other parts but the areas affected which is still part of Cameroun. 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If you are not the intended recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this document and do not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor make any copies. Violators may face court persecution. On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 4:58 PM, Janvier NGNOULAYE wrote: > Hi to all, > It seems to me that the problem of access to Internet in Cameroon is very > much amplified here on the Net. There are 10 regions in Cameroon, the > problem of access to the Internet is only concerning 2 Regions. These 2 > regions actually has some political or social crisis. The government and > other stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for suitable solutions. > Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut these two regions of Internet > access and Western Union money transfer services, for the sake of the > entire population of these 2 regions. > Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 regions. I'm sending > this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. > So the situation is not a disaster as some seem to publish on the Net. > The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the government and the other > stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even if it involves a > temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union services. > > ISOC Cameroon Chapter > President > > 2017-01-26 15:45 GMT+01:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro : > >> Hi >> >> Indeed, this is a terrible situation, which can happen in any country, >> which is why everyone should take action. >> I'd think bringing in ISOC and other organizations will help deepen these >> efforts. >> >> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Deji Bryce Olukotun > > wrote: >> >>> Thank you, Arsène for the introduction and the summary. >>> >>> Judith, as Arsène explained, the #KeepitOn coalition >>> (111 organizations from 51 countries) >>> is pushing back against the shutdown. Our efforts are being led by Julie >>> Owono from Internet Without Borders >>> >>> . >>> >>> At present, we are fighting the shutdown in several ways: >>> - open letter to government officials and agencies to restore access >>> - media outreach >>> - Tweet action at Cameroonian officials >>> >>> (please support!) >>> - outreach to telcos operating in the country, including a statement >>> from the Global Network Initiative >>> (Microsoft, >>> Google, Facebook, Investors, academics) >>> - outreach to international officials at the UN and AU >>> - coordination with local groups in Cameroon >>> - coordinating with CDN's and other measurement entities >>> >>> We welcome any ideas or suggestions about how to get the internet turned >>> back on. With each passing day, people are at increased risk of human >>> rights violations and the economy is losing money. We'll reach out to ISOC >>> to coordinate as well. >>> >>> Best, >>> Deji >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:44 AM, Arsène Tungali >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Judith, >>>> >>>> Thanks for sharing this with us. What's going on in Cameroon is just a >>>> shame. For colleagues who have never experienced Internet shutdown, please >>>> understand that it is a nightmare. >>>> >>>> On this note about Cameroon, several organizations including Access Now >>>> and Internet Without Borders >>>> are >>>> doing a lot of advocacy and statements >>>> , >>>> letters have been sent to officials in Cameroon to ask them to bring back >>>> the Internet. A hashtag about this has been started and you can take action >>>> as well: #BringBackkOutInternet >>>> . >>>> >>>> You can learn more about the #KeepItOn >>>> campaign here >>>> . >>>> >>>> Eduard Snowden sent in a tweet >>>> where he said: >>>> "*This is the future of repression. If we do not fight it there, it >>>> will happen here*" and I cannot agree more with him because it is just >>>> going from one country to another. Over 8 countries in Africa, including >>>> mine the DRC, have experienced shutdown and no one knows who is next. Acces >>>> Now has reported 15 Internet >>>> shutdowns across the world in 2015 and 56 in 2016 >>>> >>>> If there is any question about all the statements and campaigns, I am >>>> happy to help or convey your questions since I am involved, on a personal >>>> capacity, in these movements advocating and fighting Internet shutdowns >>>> across Africa. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Arsene >>>> >>>> PS: Copied is Deji Olukotun who works on Advocacy for Access Now. >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------ >>>> **Arsène Tungali** >>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >>>> *, >>>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa >>>> Forum * >>>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> >>>> GPG: 523644A0 >>>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >>>> >>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >>>> >>>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >>>> >>>> & Mexico >>>> ) >>>> - AFRISIG 2016 - >>>> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >>>> & Marrakech >>>> >>>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >>>> >>>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >>>> >>>> >>>> 2017-01-26 5:34 GMT+02:00 Judith Hellerstein : >>>> >>>>> HI All, >>>>> >>>>> Just passing on a note from Mafor Edwan of ISOC Cameroon about the >>>>> Cameroonian Government shut down of the Internet in his country. >>>>> >>>>> I am at a loss for words of yet another country that has cut off >>>>> Internet Access for its citizens. Thanks to ISOC Cameroon for all their >>>>> efforts to resolve this crisis, even though they have not been successful, >>>>> I am glad that they have tried. I am a passionate believer in an open >>>>> Internet. One that is available to all. By connecting the world, working >>>>> with others, and advocating for equal access to the Internet, We can make >>>>> the world a better place. >>>>> Edwan hopes people can share this word about this and hopefully some >>>>> one can reach the President and tell him what a bad idea this is. I told >>>>> him I would share it around. Hope others can do the same >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Judith >>>>> >>>>> _________________________________________________________________________ >>>>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO >>>>> Hellerstein & Associates >>>>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 >>>>> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein >>>>> E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com >>>>> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ >>>>> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >>>>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] FYI- Constance's blog post about the >>>>> G20 - and the updated Internet Governance timeline >>>>> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:49:53 -0500 >>>>> From: Queen Mother >>>>> To: Dan York >>>>> CC: ISOC Chapter Delegates >>>>> , Carl Gahnberg >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Good evening Fellow ISOC Delegates, >>>>> >>>>> I bring you sad news about the state of internet access in my home >>>>> country Cameroon. >>>>> I have sobbed uncontrollably for weeks as the govt of my country >>>>> tortures and mimes her citizens and recently has cut off the ability to >>>>> send financial support to our families through western union and has now >>>>> cut off the internet. >>>>> >>>>> Please if you can read the articles below. >>>>> >>>>> Cameroon Cuts Internet in English-speaking Regions >>>>> >>>>> http://www.voanews.com/a/cameroon-cuts-internet-in-english-s >>>>> peaking-regions/3682688.html >>>>> >>>>> How Cameroon pressured mobile operators to shut down the internet and >>>>> stifle dissent >>>>> >>>>> https://qz.com/893401/cameroon-pressured-mtn-and-other-opera >>>>> tors-to-shut-down-internet-in-bamenda-buea-regions/ >>>>> >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> Mafor edwan >>>>> Vice President #2 >>>>> ISOC Cameroon >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically >>>>>> subscribed >>>>>> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet >>>>>> Society >>>>>> Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>> >>>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>> >>>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Deji Bryce Olukotun >>> Senior Global Advocacy Manager >>> Access Now | accessnow.org >>> >>> tel: +1 415-935-4572 <+1%20415-935-4572> | @dejiridoo >>> PGP: 0x6012CDA8 >>> Fingerprint: 3AEE 4194 F70E C806 A810 857A 6AD5 8F48 6012 CDA8 >>> >>> *Subscribe to our free weekly newsletter on digital rights, the Access >>> Now Express: *https://www.accessnow.org/campaign/#sign-up >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >>> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >>> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nonhlanhlachanza at gmail.com Fri Jan 27 02:56:39 2017 From: nonhlanhlachanza at gmail.com (Nonhlanhla Chanza) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 09:56:39 +0200 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Please Cameroon did not shut down the Internet !!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I still weep blood for those two regions. I have never been convinced by the argument that there might be circumstances that justifies a shutdown. So many places in turmoil and war in the world but people have access still to the Internet. On 26 Jan 2017 17:59, "Janvier NGNOULAYE" wrote: > Hi to all, > It seems to me that the problem of access to Internet in Cameroon is very > much amplified here on the Net. There are 10 regions in Cameroon, the > problem of access to the Internet is only concerning 2 Regions. These 2 > regions actually has some political or social crisis. The government and > other stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for suitable solutions. > Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut these two regions of Internet > access and Western Union money transfer services, for the sake of the > entire population of these 2 regions. > Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 regions. I'm sending > this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. > So the situation is not a disaster as some seem to publish on the Net. > The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the government and the other > stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even if it involves a > temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union services. > > ISOC Cameroon Chapter > President > > 2017-01-26 15:45 GMT+01:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro : > >> Hi >> >> Indeed, this is a terrible situation, which can happen in any country, >> which is why everyone should take action. >> I'd think bringing in ISOC and other organizations will help deepen these >> efforts. >> >> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Deji Bryce Olukotun > > wrote: >> >>> Thank you, Arsène for the introduction and the summary. >>> >>> Judith, as Arsène explained, the #KeepitOn coalition >>> (111 organizations from 51 countries) >>> is pushing back against the shutdown. Our efforts are being led by Julie >>> Owono from Internet Without Borders >>> >>> . >>> >>> At present, we are fighting the shutdown in several ways: >>> - open letter to government officials and agencies to restore access >>> - media outreach >>> - Tweet action at Cameroonian officials >>> >>> (please support!) >>> - outreach to telcos operating in the country, including a statement >>> from the Global Network Initiative >>> (Microsoft, >>> Google, Facebook, Investors, academics) >>> - outreach to international officials at the UN and AU >>> - coordination with local groups in Cameroon >>> - coordinating with CDN's and other measurement entities >>> >>> We welcome any ideas or suggestions about how to get the internet turned >>> back on. With each passing day, people are at increased risk of human >>> rights violations and the economy is losing money. We'll reach out to ISOC >>> to coordinate as well. >>> >>> Best, >>> Deji >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:44 AM, Arsène Tungali >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Judith, >>>> >>>> Thanks for sharing this with us. What's going on in Cameroon is just a >>>> shame. For colleagues who have never experienced Internet shutdown, please >>>> understand that it is a nightmare. >>>> >>>> On this note about Cameroon, several organizations including Access Now >>>> and Internet Without Borders >>>> are >>>> doing a lot of advocacy and statements >>>> , >>>> letters have been sent to officials in Cameroon to ask them to bring back >>>> the Internet. A hashtag about this has been started and you can take action >>>> as well: #BringBackkOutInternet >>>> . >>>> >>>> You can learn more about the #KeepItOn >>>> campaign here >>>> . >>>> >>>> Eduard Snowden sent in a tweet >>>> where he said: >>>> "*This is the future of repression. If we do not fight it there, it >>>> will happen here*" and I cannot agree more with him because it is just >>>> going from one country to another. Over 8 countries in Africa, including >>>> mine the DRC, have experienced shutdown and no one knows who is next. Acces >>>> Now has reported 15 Internet >>>> shutdowns across the world in 2015 and 56 in 2016 >>>> >>>> If there is any question about all the statements and campaigns, I am >>>> happy to help or convey your questions since I am involved, on a personal >>>> capacity, in these movements advocating and fighting Internet shutdowns >>>> across Africa. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Arsene >>>> >>>> PS: Copied is Deji Olukotun who works on Advocacy for Access Now. >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------ >>>> **Arsène Tungali** >>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >>>> *, >>>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa >>>> Forum * >>>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> >>>> GPG: 523644A0 >>>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >>>> >>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >>>> >>>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >>>> >>>> & Mexico >>>> ) >>>> - AFRISIG 2016 - >>>> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >>>> & Marrakech >>>> >>>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >>>> >>>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >>>> >>>> >>>> 2017-01-26 5:34 GMT+02:00 Judith Hellerstein : >>>> >>>>> HI All, >>>>> >>>>> Just passing on a note from Mafor Edwan of ISOC Cameroon about the >>>>> Cameroonian Government shut down of the Internet in his country. >>>>> >>>>> I am at a loss for words of yet another country that has cut off >>>>> Internet Access for its citizens. Thanks to ISOC Cameroon for all their >>>>> efforts to resolve this crisis, even though they have not been successful, >>>>> I am glad that they have tried. I am a passionate believer in an open >>>>> Internet. One that is available to all. By connecting the world, working >>>>> with others, and advocating for equal access to the Internet, We can make >>>>> the world a better place. >>>>> Edwan hopes people can share this word about this and hopefully some >>>>> one can reach the President and tell him what a bad idea this is. I told >>>>> him I would share it around. Hope others can do the same >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Judith >>>>> >>>>> _________________________________________________________________________ >>>>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO >>>>> Hellerstein & Associates >>>>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 >>>>> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein >>>>> E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com >>>>> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ >>>>> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >>>>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] FYI- Constance's blog post about the >>>>> G20 - and the updated Internet Governance timeline >>>>> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:49:53 -0500 >>>>> From: Queen Mother >>>>> To: Dan York >>>>> CC: ISOC Chapter Delegates >>>>> , Carl Gahnberg >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Good evening Fellow ISOC Delegates, >>>>> >>>>> I bring you sad news about the state of internet access in my home >>>>> country Cameroon. >>>>> I have sobbed uncontrollably for weeks as the govt of my country >>>>> tortures and mimes her citizens and recently has cut off the ability to >>>>> send financial support to our families through western union and has now >>>>> cut off the internet. >>>>> >>>>> Please if you can read the articles below. >>>>> >>>>> Cameroon Cuts Internet in English-speaking Regions >>>>> >>>>> http://www.voanews.com/a/cameroon-cuts-internet-in-english-s >>>>> peaking-regions/3682688.html >>>>> >>>>> How Cameroon pressured mobile operators to shut down the internet and >>>>> stifle dissent >>>>> >>>>> https://qz.com/893401/cameroon-pressured-mtn-and-other-opera >>>>> tors-to-shut-down-internet-in-bamenda-buea-regions/ >>>>> >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> Mafor edwan >>>>> Vice President #2 >>>>> ISOC Cameroon >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically >>>>>> subscribed >>>>>> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet >>>>>> Society >>>>>> Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>> >>>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>> >>>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Deji Bryce Olukotun >>> Senior Global Advocacy Manager >>> Access Now | accessnow.org >>> >>> tel: +1 415-935-4572 <+1%20415-935-4572> | @dejiridoo >>> PGP: 0x6012CDA8 >>> Fingerprint: 3AEE 4194 F70E C806 A810 857A 6AD5 8F48 6012 CDA8 >>> >>> *Subscribe to our free weekly newsletter on digital rights, the Access >>> Now Express: *https://www.accessnow.org/campaign/#sign-up >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >>> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >>> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From joash.moitui at gmail.com Fri Jan 27 04:08:47 2017 From: joash.moitui at gmail.com (Joash Moitui) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 12:08:47 +0300 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Please Cameroon did not shut down the Internet !!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B4986C9-C64C-4F29-92FB-2A16DBF968A5@gmail.com> Thank you all. This is a vital interesting topic. Having lived in Cameroon for 3 years, I would say that the shutdown in these two region is no different from shutdowns witnessed in Uganda and Gambia for instance. It is simply the political elite using their political influence to prevent the human rights violations calling for federation in these areas. The two areas made up of Anglophones, who have been marginalized largely because of their language and their calls for federation have been met by internet shutdown and full force of security agents. It is this that the Cameroon government does not want to be easily distributed within the social media. Joash > On 27 Jan 2017, at 10:56, Nonhlanhla Chanza wrote: > > I still weep blood for those two regions. I have never been convinced by the argument that there might be circumstances that justifies a shutdown. So many places in turmoil and war in the world but people have access still to the Internet. > > On 26 Jan 2017 17:59, "Janvier NGNOULAYE" > wrote: > Hi to all, > It seems to me that the problem of access to Internet in Cameroon is very much amplified here on the Net. There are 10 regions in Cameroon, the problem of access to the Internet is only concerning 2 Regions. These 2 regions actually has some political or social crisis. The government and other stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for suitable solutions. Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut these two regions of Internet access and Western Union money transfer services, for the sake of the entire population of these 2 regions. > Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 regions. I'm sending this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. > So the situation is not a disaster as some seem to publish on the Net. The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the government and the other stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even if it involves a temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union services. > > ISOC Cameroon Chapter > President > > 2017-01-26 15:45 GMT+01:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro >: > Hi > > Indeed, this is a terrible situation, which can happen in any country, which is why everyone should take action. > I'd think bringing in ISOC and other organizations will help deepen these efforts. > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Deji Bryce Olukotun > wrote: > Thank you, Arsène for the introduction and the summary. > > Judith, as Arsène explained, the #KeepitOn coalition (111 organizations from 51 countries) is pushing back against the shutdown. Our efforts are being led by Julie Owono from Internet Without Borders . > > At present, we are fighting the shutdown in several ways: > - open letter to government officials and agencies to restore access > - media outreach > - Tweet action at Cameroonian officials (please support!) > - outreach to telcos operating in the country, including a statement from the Global Network Initiative (Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Investors, academics) > - outreach to international officials at the UN and AU > - coordination with local groups in Cameroon > - coordinating with CDN's and other measurement entities > > We welcome any ideas or suggestions about how to get the internet turned back on. With each passing day, people are at increased risk of human rights violations and the economy is losing money. We'll reach out to ISOC to coordinate as well. > > Best, > Deji > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:44 AM, Arsène Tungali > wrote: > Hi Judith, > > Thanks for sharing this with us. What's going on in Cameroon is just a shame. For colleagues who have never experienced Internet shutdown, please understand that it is a nightmare. > > On this note about Cameroon, several organizations including Access Now and Internet Without Borders are doing a lot of advocacy and statements , letters have been sent to officials in Cameroon to ask them to bring back the Internet. A hashtag about this has been started and you can take action as well: #BringBackkOutInternet . > > You can learn more about the #KeepItOn campaign here . > > Eduard Snowden sent in a tweet where he said: "This is the future of repression. If we do not fight it there, it will happen here" and I cannot agree more with him because it is just going from one country to another. Over 8 countries in Africa, including mine the DRC, have experienced shutdown and no one knows who is next. Acces Now has reported 15 Internet shutdowns across the world in 2015 and 56 in 2016 > > If there is any question about all the statements and campaigns, I am happy to help or convey your questions since I am involved, on a personal capacity, in these movements advocating and fighting Internet shutdowns across Africa. > > Regards, > Arsene > > PS: Copied is Deji Olukotun who works on Advocacy for Access Now. > > > ------------------------ > *Arsène Tungali* > Co-Founder & Executive Director, Rudi international , > CEO, Smart Services Sarl , Mabingwa Forum > Tel: +243 993810967 > GPG: 523644A0 > Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo > > 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico ) - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius ) - IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK > 2017-01-26 5:34 GMT+02:00 Judith Hellerstein >: > HI All, > > Just passing on a note from Mafor Edwan of ISOC Cameroon about the Cameroonian Government shut down of the Internet in his country. > I am at a loss for words of yet another country that has cut off Internet Access for its citizens. Thanks to ISOC Cameroon for all their efforts to resolve this crisis, even though they have not been successful, I am glad that they have tried. I am a passionate believer in an open Internet. One that is available to all. By connecting the world, working with others, and advocating for equal access to the Internet, We can make the world a better place. > > Edwan hopes people can share this word about this and hopefully some one can reach the President and tell him what a bad idea this is. I told him I would share it around. Hope others can do the same > > Best, > Judith > _________________________________________________________________________ > Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO > Hellerstein & Associates > 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 > Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein > E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com > Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ > Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] FYI- Constance's blog post about the G20 - and the updated Internet Governance timeline > Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:49:53 -0500 > From: Queen Mother > To: Dan York > CC: ISOC Chapter Delegates , Carl Gahnberg > > Good evening Fellow ISOC Delegates, > > I bring you sad news about the state of internet access in my home country Cameroon. > I have sobbed uncontrollably for weeks as the govt of my country tortures and mimes her citizens and recently has cut off the ability to send financial support to our families through western union and has now cut off the internet. > > Please if you can read the articles below. > > Cameroon Cuts Internet in English-speaking Regions > http://www.voanews.com/a/cameroon-cuts-internet-in-english-speaking-regions/3682688.html > > How Cameroon pressured mobile operators to shut down the internet and stifle dissent > https://qz.com/893401/cameroon-pressured-mtn-and-other-operators-to-shut-down-internet-in-bamenda-buea-regions/ > > Thank you. > Mafor edwan > Vice President #2 > ISOC Cameroon > > > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > > > -- > Deji Bryce Olukotun > Senior Global Advocacy Manager > Access Now | accessnow.org > > tel: +1 415-935-4572 | @dejiridoo > PGP: 0x6012CDA8 > Fingerprint: 3AEE 4194 F70E C806 A810 857A 6AD5 8F48 6012 CDA8 > > Subscribe to our free weekly newsletter on digital rights, the Access Now Express: https://www.accessnow.org/campaign/#sign-up > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net . > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From anriette at apc.org Fri Jan 27 04:34:56 2017 From: anriette at apc.org (Anriette Esterhuysen) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 11:34:56 +0200 Subject: [governance] Second WGEC meeting26-27 January 2017, Geneva In-Reply-To: References: <08da0df2-1f5a-d7e4-d5ff-b15e839d8f9c@apc.org> <5a0b4d2f-e8d0-e1f7-3186-53743f9a2d0d@apc.org> Message-ID: Dear Arsene (apologies for cross posting) Thanks for this. The first day went relatively well, if very slowly. Follow @sgdickinson for updates. We talked mostly about the 'characteristics' of enhanced cooperation. Representing civil society in any unified way is not really possible as not all the civil society participants share the same position. We do share concerns and values and there is a good working spirit between those of us who are here (Parminder Jeet Singh, Richard Hill, Carlos Afonso, Lea Kaspar, Jovan Kurbalija and also observers such as Wolfgang Kleinwaechter, Puneet Nagaraj and Marilia Maricel). We have not had a civil society meeting of any kind yet. That we have different positions (e.g. on what mechanisms are needed for enhanced cooperation, and whether it is about cooperation between governments, or between governments and other stakeholders) is also not a bad thing in my view. And there are some views we have in common. But we cannot say there is a united civil society position at this point. Cooperation between governments is important. Cooperation among all stakeholders is also important. Civil society influence is essential. Preventing capture from any one government or group of governments or stakeholder group, e.g. business, is also important. I am hoping that discussing how we see enhanced cooperation and how and where governments should talk about internet-related public policy, even if we have different emphases and proposals would be useful. Last word ... Geneva is cold! Anriette On 25/01/2017 13:11, Arsène Tungali wrote: > Thanks Anriette, > > Please do keep us posted of anything relevant to CS. And should you need anything from us, do not hesitate > > Go and represent! > > Arsene > ----------------- > Arsène Tungali, > @arsenebaguma > +243 993810967 > GPG: 523644A0 > Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo > > Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) > >> On Jan 25, 2017, at 12:24 PM, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote: >> >> Dear all >> >> I am in Geneva for the second meeting of the CSTD (Commission on Science >> and Technology for Development) Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation >> (WGEC). >> >> APC's and other inputs from members of the Working Group and from >> observers are available on the WGEC site: >> http://unctad.org/en/pages/MeetingDetails.aspx?meetingid=1215 >> >> CGI.br produced a synthesis document of the inputs which you can access >> here: >> http://unctad.org/meetings/en/SessionalDocuments/WGEC2016_m2_synthesis_en.pdf >> >> The provisional agenda is here: >> http://unctad.org/meetings/en/SessionalDocuments/cstd2017_WGEC_2_Agenda_en.pdf >> >> Any comments or suggestions welcome. I will try to keep you posted. >> Remote participation is only open to people who registered in advance. >> You can try to register here as observers: https://reg.unog.ch/event/17618/ >> >> Meeting starts tomorrow. >> >> Best >> >> Anriette >> >> ----------------------------------------- >> Anriette Esterhuysen >> Executive Director >> Association for Progressive Communications >> anriette at apc.org >> www.apc.org >> IM: ae_apc >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -- ----------------------------------------- Anriette Esterhuysen Executive Director Association for Progressive Communications anriette at apc.org www.apc.org IM: ae_apc -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From iyedigoma at gmail.com Fri Jan 27 04:45:12 2017 From: iyedigoma at gmail.com (Iyedi Goma) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 10:45:12 +0100 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Please Cameroon did not shut down the Internet !!! In-Reply-To: <4B4986C9-C64C-4F29-92FB-2A16DBF968A5@gmail.com> References: <4B4986C9-C64C-4F29-92FB-2A16DBF968A5@gmail.com> Message-ID: thks joash; this situation of cameroon, is really amazing there is no excuse for that, partial or full internet shutdown should not be acceptable. best regard 2017-01-27 10:08 GMT+01:00 Joash Moitui : > Thank you all. > > This is a vital interesting topic. Having lived in Cameroon for 3 years, I > would say that the shutdown in these two region is no different from > shutdowns witnessed in Uganda and Gambia for instance. It is simply the > political elite using their political influence to prevent the human rights > violations calling for federation in these areas. The two areas made up of > Anglophones, who have been marginalized largely because of their language > and their calls for federation have been met by internet shutdown and full > force of security agents. It is this that the Cameroon government does not > want to be easily distributed within the social media. > > Joash > > On 27 Jan 2017, at 10:56, Nonhlanhla Chanza > wrote: > > I still weep blood for those two regions. I have never been convinced by > the argument that there might be circumstances that justifies a shutdown. > So many places in turmoil and war in the world but people have access still > to the Internet. > On 26 Jan 2017 17:59, "Janvier NGNOULAYE" wrote: > >> Hi to all, >> It seems to me that the problem of access to Internet in Cameroon is very >> much amplified here on the Net. There are 10 regions in Cameroon, the >> problem of access to the Internet is only concerning 2 Regions. These 2 >> regions actually has some political or social crisis. The government and >> other stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for suitable solutions. >> Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut these two regions of Internet >> access and Western Union money transfer services, for the sake of the >> entire population of these 2 regions. >> Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 regions. I'm sending >> this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. >> So the situation is not a disaster as some seem to publish on the Net. >> The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the government and the other >> stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even if it involves a >> temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union services. >> >> ISOC Cameroon Chapter >> President >> >> 2017-01-26 15:45 GMT+01:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro : >> >>> Hi >>> >>> Indeed, this is a terrible situation, which can happen in any country, >>> which is why everyone should take action. >>> I'd think bringing in ISOC and other organizations will help deepen >>> these efforts. >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Deji Bryce Olukotun < >>> deji at accessnow.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you, Arsène for the introduction and the summary. >>>> >>>> Judith, as Arsène explained, the #KeepitOn coalition >>>> (111 organizations from 51 countries) >>>> is pushing back against the shutdown. Our efforts are being led by Julie >>>> Owono from Internet Without Borders >>>> >>>> . >>>> >>>> At present, we are fighting the shutdown in several ways: >>>> - open letter to government officials and agencies to restore access >>>> - media outreach >>>> - Tweet action at Cameroonian officials >>>> >>>> (please support!) >>>> - outreach to telcos operating in the country, including a statement >>>> from the Global Network Initiative >>>> (Microsoft, >>>> Google, Facebook, Investors, academics) >>>> - outreach to international officials at the UN and AU >>>> - coordination with local groups in Cameroon >>>> - coordinating with CDN's and other measurement entities >>>> >>>> We welcome any ideas or suggestions about how to get the internet >>>> turned back on. With each passing day, people are at increased risk of >>>> human rights violations and the economy is losing money. We'll reach out to >>>> ISOC to coordinate as well. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Deji >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:44 AM, Arsène Tungali >>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Judith, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for sharing this with us. What's going on in Cameroon is just a >>>>> shame. For colleagues who have never experienced Internet shutdown, please >>>>> understand that it is a nightmare. >>>>> >>>>> On this note about Cameroon, several organizations including Access >>>>> Now and Internet Without Borders >>>>> are >>>>> doing a lot of advocacy and statements >>>>> , >>>>> letters have been sent to officials in Cameroon to ask them to bring back >>>>> the Internet. A hashtag about this has been started and you can take action >>>>> as well: #BringBackkOutInternet >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> You can learn more about the #KeepItOn >>>>> campaign here >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> Eduard Snowden sent in a tweet >>>>> where he >>>>> said: "*This is the future of repression. If we do not fight it >>>>> there, it will happen here*" and I cannot agree more with him because >>>>> it is just going from one country to another. Over 8 countries in Africa, >>>>> including mine the DRC, have experienced shutdown and no one knows who is >>>>> next. Acces Now has reported 15 >>>>> Internet shutdowns across the world in 2015 and 56 in 2016 >>>>> >>>>> If there is any question about all the statements and campaigns, I am >>>>> happy to help or convey your questions since I am involved, on a personal >>>>> capacity, in these movements advocating and fighting Internet shutdowns >>>>> across Africa. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Arsene >>>>> >>>>> PS: Copied is Deji Olukotun who works on Advocacy for Access Now. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------ >>>>> **Arsène Tungali** >>>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >>>>> *, >>>>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa >>>>> Forum * >>>>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> >>>>> GPG: 523644A0 >>>>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >>>>> >>>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >>>>> >>>>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >>>>> >>>>> & Mexico >>>>> ) >>>>> - AFRISIG 2016 - >>>>> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >>>>> & Marrakech >>>>> >>>>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >>>>> >>>>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2017-01-26 5:34 GMT+02:00 Judith Hellerstein >>>>> : >>>>> >>>>>> HI All, >>>>>> >>>>>> Just passing on a note from Mafor Edwan of ISOC Cameroon about the >>>>>> Cameroonian Government shut down of the Internet in his country. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am at a loss for words of yet another country that has cut off >>>>>> Internet Access for its citizens. Thanks to ISOC Cameroon for all their >>>>>> efforts to resolve this crisis, even though they have not been successful, >>>>>> I am glad that they have tried. I am a passionate believer in an open >>>>>> Internet. One that is available to all. By connecting the world, working >>>>>> with others, and advocating for equal access to the Internet, We can make >>>>>> the world a better place. >>>>>> Edwan hopes people can share this word about this and hopefully some >>>>>> one can reach the President and tell him what a bad idea this is. I told >>>>>> him I would share it around. Hope others can do the same >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> Judith >>>>>> >>>>>> _________________________________________________________________________ >>>>>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO >>>>>> Hellerstein & Associates >>>>>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 >>>>>> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein >>>>>> E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com >>>>>> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ >>>>>> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] FYI- Constance's blog post about >>>>>> the G20 - and the updated Internet Governance timeline >>>>>> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:49:53 -0500 >>>>>> From: Queen Mother >>>>>> To: Dan York >>>>>> CC: ISOC Chapter Delegates >>>>>> , Carl Gahnberg >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Good evening Fellow ISOC Delegates, >>>>>> >>>>>> I bring you sad news about the state of internet access in my home >>>>>> country Cameroon. >>>>>> I have sobbed uncontrollably for weeks as the govt of my country >>>>>> tortures and mimes her citizens and recently has cut off the ability to >>>>>> send financial support to our families through western union and has now >>>>>> cut off the internet. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please if you can read the articles below. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cameroon Cuts Internet in English-speaking Regions >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.voanews.com/a/cameroon-cuts-internet-in-english-s >>>>>> peaking-regions/3682688.html >>>>>> >>>>>> How Cameroon pressured mobile operators to shut down the internet and >>>>>> stifle dissent >>>>>> >>>>>> https://qz.com/893401/cameroon-pressured-mtn-and-other-opera >>>>>> tors-to-shut-down-internet-in-bamenda-buea-regions/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> Mafor edwan >>>>>> Vice President #2 >>>>>> ISOC Cameroon >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically >>>>>>> subscribed >>>>>>> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet >>>>>>> Society >>>>>>> Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>>> >>>>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Deji Bryce Olukotun >>>> Senior Global Advocacy Manager >>>> Access Now | accessnow.org >>>> >>>> tel: +1 415-935-4572 <+1%20415-935-4572> | @dejiridoo >>>> PGP: 0x6012CDA8 >>>> Fingerprint: 3AEE 4194 F70E C806 A810 857A 6AD5 8F48 6012 CDA8 >>>> >>>> *Subscribe to our free weekly newsletter on digital rights, the Access >>>> Now Express: *https://www.accessnow.org/campaign/#sign-up >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >>>> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >>>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> >> 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From cchair at researchictafrica.net Fri Jan 27 04:43:06 2017 From: cchair at researchictafrica.net (Chenai Chair) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 11:43:06 +0200 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Please Cameroon did not shut down the Internet !!! In-Reply-To: <4B4986C9-C64C-4F29-92FB-2A16DBF968A5@gmail.com> References: <4B4986C9-C64C-4F29-92FB-2A16DBF968A5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <82A49F58-E77D-4E13-A6F6-D5FFE83615FB@researchictafrica.net> Janvier, thank you for your response on ISOC cameroon’s take on the situation. While you have placed everything in context,, i am of the opinion that purposefully cutting off certain sections from accessing the internet defeats the purpose of leaving no woman or man behind. I have a quick question regarding the statement below "The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the government and the other stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even if it involves a temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union services.” my question then is what is the extent of reliance on western union? Isn’t this hurting people who rely on this service to receive funds for their livelihoods? have alternative measures been taken o ensure people are able to receive funding? An interesting read would be the recommendations on internet shutdowns by the African school of internet governance class of 2016 read at the Africa IGF last year- http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/statement-on-an-intentional-internet-shutdown/ . I Lets #keeption Chenai Chair Researcher & Communications & Evaluation Advisor Research ICT Africa Unit 409, Old Castle Brewery 6 Beach Road Woodstock, Cape Town, 7925 South Africa T: +27 71 447 6332 f:www.facebook.com/researchICTafrica.ne t t: @RIAnetwork See www.researchICTafrica.net for most recent policy research papers > On 27 Jan 2017, at 11:08, Joash Moitui wrote: > > Thank you all. > > This is a vital interesting topic. Having lived in Cameroon for 3 years, I would say that the shutdown in these two region is no different from shutdowns witnessed in Uganda and Gambia for instance. It is simply the political elite using their political influence to prevent the human rights violations calling for federation in these areas. The two areas made up of Anglophones, who have been marginalized largely because of their language and their calls for federation have been met by internet shutdown and full force of security agents. It is this that the Cameroon government does not want to be easily distributed within the social media. > > Joash >> On 27 Jan 2017, at 10:56, Nonhlanhla Chanza > wrote: >> >> I still weep blood for those two regions. I have never been convinced by the argument that there might be circumstances that justifies a shutdown. So many places in turmoil and war in the world but people have access still to the Internet. >> >> On 26 Jan 2017 17:59, "Janvier NGNOULAYE" > wrote: >> Hi to all, >> It seems to me that the problem of access to Internet in Cameroon is very much amplified here on the Net. There are 10 regions in Cameroon, the problem of access to the Internet is only concerning 2 Regions. These 2 regions actually has some political or social crisis. The government and other stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for suitable solutions. Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut these two regions of Internet access and Western Union money transfer services, for the sake of the entire population of these 2 regions. >> Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 regions. I'm sending this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. >> So the situation is not a disaster as some seem to publish on the Net. The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the government and the other stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even if it involves a temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union services. >> >> ISOC Cameroon Chapter >> President >> >> 2017-01-26 15:45 GMT+01:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro >: >> Hi >> >> Indeed, this is a terrible situation, which can happen in any country, which is why everyone should take action. >> I'd think bringing in ISOC and other organizations will help deepen these efforts. >> >> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Deji Bryce Olukotun > wrote: >> Thank you, Arsène for the introduction and the summary. >> >> Judith, as Arsène explained, the #KeepitOn coalition (111 organizations from 51 countries) is pushing back against the shutdown. Our efforts are being led by Julie Owono from Internet Without Borders . >> >> At present, we are fighting the shutdown in several ways: >> - open letter to government officials and agencies to restore access >> - media outreach >> - Tweet action at Cameroonian officials (please support!) >> - outreach to telcos operating in the country, including a statement from the Global Network Initiative (Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Investors, academics) >> - outreach to international officials at the UN and AU >> - coordination with local groups in Cameroon >> - coordinating with CDN's and other measurement entities >> >> We welcome any ideas or suggestions about how to get the internet turned back on. With each passing day, people are at increased risk of human rights violations and the economy is losing money. We'll reach out to ISOC to coordinate as well. >> >> Best, >> Deji >> >> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:44 AM, Arsène Tungali > wrote: >> Hi Judith, >> >> Thanks for sharing this with us. What's going on in Cameroon is just a shame. For colleagues who have never experienced Internet shutdown, please understand that it is a nightmare. >> >> On this note about Cameroon, several organizations including Access Now and Internet Without Borders are doing a lot of advocacy and statements , letters have been sent to officials in Cameroon to ask them to bring back the Internet. A hashtag about this has been started and you can take action as well: #BringBackkOutInternet . >> >> You can learn more about the #KeepItOn campaign here . >> >> Eduard Snowden sent in a tweet where he said: "This is the future of repression. If we do not fight it there, it will happen here" and I cannot agree more with him because it is just going from one country to another. Over 8 countries in Africa, including mine the DRC, have experienced shutdown and no one knows who is next. Acces Now has reported 15 Internet shutdowns across the world in 2015 and 56 in 2016 >> >> If there is any question about all the statements and campaigns, I am happy to help or convey your questions since I am involved, on a personal capacity, in these movements advocating and fighting Internet shutdowns across Africa. >> >> Regards, >> Arsene >> >> PS: Copied is Deji Olukotun who works on Advocacy for Access Now. >> >> >> ------------------------ >> *Arsène Tungali* >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, Rudi international , >> CEO, Smart Services Sarl , Mabingwa Forum >> Tel: +243 993810967 >> GPG: 523644A0 >> Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo >> >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico ) - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius ) - IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >> 2017-01-26 5:34 GMT+02:00 Judith Hellerstein >: >> HI All, >> >> Just passing on a note from Mafor Edwan of ISOC Cameroon about the Cameroonian Government shut down of the Internet in his country. >> I am at a loss for words of yet another country that has cut off Internet Access for its citizens. Thanks to ISOC Cameroon for all their efforts to resolve this crisis, even though they have not been successful, I am glad that they have tried. I am a passionate believer in an open Internet. One that is available to all. By connecting the world, working with others, and advocating for equal access to the Internet, We can make the world a better place. >> >> Edwan hopes people can share this word about this and hopefully some one can reach the President and tell him what a bad idea this is. I told him I would share it around. Hope others can do the same >> >> Best, >> Judith >> _________________________________________________________________________ >> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO >> Hellerstein & Associates >> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 >> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein >> E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com >> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ >> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide >> >> >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] FYI- Constance's blog post about the G20 - and the updated Internet Governance timeline >> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:49:53 -0500 >> From: Queen Mother >> To: Dan York >> CC: ISOC Chapter Delegates , Carl Gahnberg >> >> Good evening Fellow ISOC Delegates, >> >> I bring you sad news about the state of internet access in my home country Cameroon. >> I have sobbed uncontrollably for weeks as the govt of my country tortures and mimes her citizens and recently has cut off the ability to send financial support to our families through western union and has now cut off the internet. >> >> Please if you can read the articles below. >> >> Cameroon Cuts Internet in English-speaking Regions >> http://www.voanews.com/a/cameroon-cuts-internet-in-english-speaking-regions/3682688.html >> >> How Cameroon pressured mobile operators to shut down the internet and stifle dissent >> https://qz.com/893401/cameroon-pressured-mtn-and-other-operators-to-shut-down-internet-in-bamenda-buea-regions/ >> >> Thank you. >> Mafor edwan >> Vice President #2 >> ISOC Cameroon >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >> Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From iza at anr.org Fri Jan 27 09:34:14 2017 From: iza at anr.org (Izumi AIZU) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 23:34:14 +0900 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Second WGEC meeting26-27 January 2017, Geneva In-Reply-To: References: <08da0df2-1f5a-d7e4-d5ff-b15e839d8f9c@apc.org> <5a0b4d2f-e8d0-e1f7-3186-53743f9a2d0d@apc.org> Message-ID: I also thank you, Anriette and all those who are in cold Geneva, working hard for this rather difficult to tackle issue of Enhanced cooperation, still. Please keep the good work,and share your views on where it is going further, if any. izumi 2017-01-27 18:34 GMT+09:00 Anriette Esterhuysen : > Dear Arsene (apologies for cross posting) > > Thanks for this. The first day went relatively well, if very slowly. > > Follow @sgdickinson for updates. > > We talked mostly about the 'characteristics' of enhanced cooperation. > > Representing civil society in any unified way is not really possible as > not all the civil society participants share the same position. We do > share concerns and values and there is a good working spirit between > those of us who are here (Parminder Jeet Singh, Richard Hill, Carlos > Afonso, Lea Kaspar, Jovan Kurbalija and also observers such as Wolfgang > Kleinwaechter, Puneet Nagaraj and Marilia Maricel). We have not had a > civil society meeting of any kind yet. > > That we have different positions (e.g. on what mechanisms are needed for > enhanced cooperation, and whether it is about cooperation between > governments, or between governments and other stakeholders) is also not > a bad thing in my view. And there are some views we have in common. But > we cannot say there is a united civil society position at this point. > > Cooperation between governments is important. > > Cooperation among all stakeholders is also important. > > Civil society influence is essential. > > Preventing capture from any one government or group of governments or > stakeholder group, e.g. business, is also important. > > I am hoping that discussing how we see enhanced cooperation and how and > where governments should talk about internet-related public policy, even > if we have different emphases and proposals would be useful. > > Last word ... Geneva is cold! > > Anriette > > > On 25/01/2017 13:11, Arsène Tungali wrote: > > Thanks Anriette, > > > > Please do keep us posted of anything relevant to CS. And should you need > anything from us, do not hesitate > > > > Go and represent! > > > > Arsene > > ----------------- > > Arsène Tungali, > > @arsenebaguma > > +243 993810967 > > GPG: 523644A0 > > Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo > > > > Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) > > > >> On Jan 25, 2017, at 12:24 PM, Anriette Esterhuysen > wrote: > >> > >> Dear all > >> > >> I am in Geneva for the second meeting of the CSTD (Commission on Science > >> and Technology for Development) Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation > >> (WGEC). > >> > >> APC's and other inputs from members of the Working Group and from > >> observers are available on the WGEC site: > >> http://unctad.org/en/pages/MeetingDetails.aspx?meetingid=1215 > >> > >> CGI.br produced a synthesis document of the inputs which you can access > >> here: > >> http://unctad.org/meetings/en/SessionalDocuments/WGEC2016_ > m2_synthesis_en.pdf > >> > >> The provisional agenda is here: > >> http://unctad.org/meetings/en/SessionalDocuments/cstd2017_ > WGEC_2_Agenda_en.pdf > >> > >> Any comments or suggestions welcome. I will try to keep you posted. > >> Remote participation is only open to people who registered in advance. > >> You can try to register here as observers: https://reg.unog.ch/event/ > 17618/ > >> > >> Meeting starts tomorrow. > >> > >> Best > >> > >> Anriette > >> > >> ----------------------------------------- > >> Anriette Esterhuysen > >> Executive Director > >> Association for Progressive Communications > >> anriette at apc.org > >> www.apc.org > >> IM: ae_apc > >> > >> ____________________________________________________________ > >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org > >> To be removed from the list, visit: > >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > >> > >> For all other list information and functions, see: > >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ > >> > >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > To be removed from the list, visit: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > -- > ----------------------------------------- > Anriette Esterhuysen > Executive Director > Association for Progressive Communications > anriette at apc.org > www.apc.org > IM: ae_apc > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > -- >> Izumi Aizu << Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita, Japan www.anr.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de Fri Jan 27 09:38:46 2017 From: wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Kleinw=E4chter=2C_Wolfgang=22?=) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 15:38:46 +0100 Subject: AW: [governance] [bestbits] Second WGEC meeting26-27 January 2017, Geneva References: <08da0df2-1f5a-d7e4-d5ff-b15e839d8f9c@apc.org> <5a0b4d2f-e8d0-e1f7-3186-53743f9a2d0d@apc.org> Message-ID: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B2A5@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> I am afraid that we won´t see big progress. Too many delegates fight the battles of yesterday. It needs much more political will (from all stakeholders) to look beyond the good language of Tunis and to draft a "enhanced Internet Governance Agenda 2025". w -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: izumiaizu at gmail.com im Auftrag von Izumi AIZU Gesendet: Fr 27.01.2017 15:34 An: Anriette Esterhuysen Cc: governance; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net; APC Members Betreff: Re: [governance] [bestbits] Second WGEC meeting26-27 January 2017, Geneva I also thank you, Anriette and all those who are in cold Geneva, working hard for this rather difficult to tackle issue of Enhanced cooperation, still. Please keep the good work,and share your views on where it is going further, if any. izumi 2017-01-27 18:34 GMT+09:00 Anriette Esterhuysen : > Dear Arsene (apologies for cross posting) > > Thanks for this. The first day went relatively well, if very slowly. > > Follow @sgdickinson for updates. > > We talked mostly about the 'characteristics' of enhanced cooperation. > > Representing civil society in any unified way is not really possible as > not all the civil society participants share the same position. We do > share concerns and values and there is a good working spirit between > those of us who are here (Parminder Jeet Singh, Richard Hill, Carlos > Afonso, Lea Kaspar, Jovan Kurbalija and also observers such as Wolfgang > Kleinwaechter, Puneet Nagaraj and Marilia Maricel). We have not had a > civil society meeting of any kind yet. > > That we have different positions (e.g. on what mechanisms are needed for > enhanced cooperation, and whether it is about cooperation between > governments, or between governments and other stakeholders) is also not > a bad thing in my view. And there are some views we have in common. But > we cannot say there is a united civil society position at this point. > > Cooperation between governments is important. > > Cooperation among all stakeholders is also important. > > Civil society influence is essential. > > Preventing capture from any one government or group of governments or > stakeholder group, e.g. business, is also important. > > I am hoping that discussing how we see enhanced cooperation and how and > where governments should talk about internet-related public policy, even > if we have different emphases and proposals would be useful. > > Last word ... Geneva is cold! > > Anriette > > > On 25/01/2017 13:11, Arsène Tungali wrote: > > Thanks Anriette, > > > > Please do keep us posted of anything relevant to CS. And should you need > anything from us, do not hesitate > > > > Go and represent! > > > > Arsene > > ----------------- > > Arsène Tungali, > > @arsenebaguma > > +243 993810967 > > GPG: 523644A0 > > Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo > > > > Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) > > > >> On Jan 25, 2017, at 12:24 PM, Anriette Esterhuysen > wrote: > >> > >> Dear all > >> > >> I am in Geneva for the second meeting of the CSTD (Commission on Science > >> and Technology for Development) Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation > >> (WGEC). > >> > >> APC's and other inputs from members of the Working Group and from > >> observers are available on the WGEC site: > >> http://unctad.org/en/pages/MeetingDetails.aspx?meetingid=1215 > >> > >> CGI.br produced a synthesis document of the inputs which you can access > >> here: > >> http://unctad.org/meetings/en/SessionalDocuments/WGEC2016_ > m2_synthesis_en.pdf > >> > >> The provisional agenda is here: > >> http://unctad.org/meetings/en/SessionalDocuments/cstd2017_ > WGEC_2_Agenda_en.pdf > >> > >> Any comments or suggestions welcome. I will try to keep you posted. > >> Remote participation is only open to people who registered in advance. > >> You can try to register here as observers: https://reg.unog.ch/event/ > 17618/ > >> > >> Meeting starts tomorrow. > >> > >> Best > >> > >> Anriette > >> > >> ----------------------------------------- > >> Anriette Esterhuysen > >> Executive Director > >> Association for Progressive Communications > >> anriette at apc.org > >> www.apc.org > >> IM: ae_apc > >> > >> ____________________________________________________________ > >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org > >> To be removed from the list, visit: > >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > >> > >> For all other list information and functions, see: > >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ > >> > >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > To be removed from the list, visit: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > -- > ----------------------------------------- > Anriette Esterhuysen > Executive Director > Association for Progressive Communications > anriette at apc.org > www.apc.org > IM: ae_apc > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > -- >> Izumi Aizu << Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita, Japan www.anr.org -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From milton at gatech.edu Fri Jan 27 09:54:48 2017 From: milton at gatech.edu (Mueller, Milton L) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 14:54:48 +0000 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Please Cameroon did not shut down the Internet !!! In-Reply-To: <4B4986C9-C64C-4F29-92FB-2A16DBF968A5@gmail.com> References: <4B4986C9-C64C-4F29-92FB-2A16DBF968A5@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks Joash for the explanation. This is what I expected when I heard of the shutdown. Such shutdowns are inherently rights violations. It allows political elites to assert blanket control over all communications and typically it is their own power and security, not the benefit of the population, that is advanced by these indiscriminate shutdowns. The tension between Anglophone and Francophone speakers in that country is well known and it’s inexcusable to see minority regions isolated and abused in this way. Dr. Milton L Mueller Professor, School of Public Policy Georgia Institute of Technology Internet Governance Project http://internetgovernance.org/ This is a vital interesting topic. Having lived in Cameroon for 3 years, I would say that the shutdown in these two region is no different from shutdowns witnessed in Uganda and Gambia for instance. It is simply the political elite using their political influence to prevent the human rights violations calling for federation in these areas. The two areas made up of Anglophones, who have been marginalized largely because of their language and their calls for federation have been met by internet shutdown and full force of security agents. It is this that the Cameroon government does not want to be easily distributed within the social media. Joash -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nashton at consensus.pro Fri Jan 27 10:22:31 2017 From: nashton at consensus.pro (Nick Ashton-Hart) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 16:22:31 +0100 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Second WGEC meeting26-27 January 2017, Geneva In-Reply-To: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B2A5@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> References: <08da0df2-1f5a-d7e4-d5ff-b15e839d8f9c@apc.org> <5a0b4d2f-e8d0-e1f7-3186-53743f9a2d0d@apc.org> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B2A5@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: <06BFEAAB-49C7-4949-974A-40B10B9ECB3D@consensus.pro> I think expectations should be low. To be honest, the intergovernmental “action” on most issues has migrated to those processes where there is a mandate for a given area of work - trade to the WTO, INTERPOL/UNODC for crime, etc. > On 27 Jan 2017, at 15:38, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang wrote: > > I am afraid that we won´t see big progress. Too many delegates fight the battles of yesterday. It needs much more political will (from all stakeholders) to look beyond the good language of Tunis and to draft a "enhanced Internet Governance Agenda 2025". > > w > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: izumiaizu at gmail.com im Auftrag von Izumi AIZU > Gesendet: Fr 27.01.2017 15:34 > An: Anriette Esterhuysen > Cc: governance; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net ; APC Members > Betreff: Re: [governance] [bestbits] Second WGEC meeting26-27 January 2017, Geneva > > I also thank you, Anriette and all those who are in cold Geneva, working > hard for this rather difficult to tackle issue of Enhanced cooperation, > still. > > Please keep the good work,and share your views on where it is going > further, if any. > > izumi > > 2017-01-27 18:34 GMT+09:00 Anriette Esterhuysen : > >> Dear Arsene (apologies for cross posting) >> >> Thanks for this. The first day went relatively well, if very slowly. >> >> Follow @sgdickinson for updates. >> >> We talked mostly about the 'characteristics' of enhanced cooperation. >> >> Representing civil society in any unified way is not really possible as >> not all the civil society participants share the same position. We do >> share concerns and values and there is a good working spirit between >> those of us who are here (Parminder Jeet Singh, Richard Hill, Carlos >> Afonso, Lea Kaspar, Jovan Kurbalija and also observers such as Wolfgang >> Kleinwaechter, Puneet Nagaraj and Marilia Maricel). We have not had a >> civil society meeting of any kind yet. >> >> That we have different positions (e.g. on what mechanisms are needed for >> enhanced cooperation, and whether it is about cooperation between >> governments, or between governments and other stakeholders) is also not >> a bad thing in my view. And there are some views we have in common. But >> we cannot say there is a united civil society position at this point. >> >> Cooperation between governments is important. >> >> Cooperation among all stakeholders is also important. >> >> Civil society influence is essential. >> >> Preventing capture from any one government or group of governments or >> stakeholder group, e.g. business, is also important. >> >> I am hoping that discussing how we see enhanced cooperation and how and >> where governments should talk about internet-related public policy, even >> if we have different emphases and proposals would be useful. >> >> Last word ... Geneva is cold! >> >> Anriette >> >> >> On 25/01/2017 13:11, Arsène Tungali wrote: >>> Thanks Anriette, >>> >>> Please do keep us posted of anything relevant to CS. And should you need >> anything from us, do not hesitate >>> >>> Go and represent! >>> >>> Arsene >>> ----------------- >>> Arsène Tungali, >>> @arsenebaguma >>> +243 993810967 >>> GPG: 523644A0 >>> Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) >>> >>>> On Jan 25, 2017, at 12:24 PM, Anriette Esterhuysen >> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear all >>>> >>>> I am in Geneva for the second meeting of the CSTD (Commission on Science >>>> and Technology for Development) Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation >>>> (WGEC). >>>> >>>> APC's and other inputs from members of the Working Group and from >>>> observers are available on the WGEC site: >>>> http://unctad.org/en/pages/MeetingDetails.aspx?meetingid=1215 >>>> >>>> CGI.br produced a synthesis document of the inputs which you can access >>>> here: >>>> http://unctad.org/meetings/en/SessionalDocuments/WGEC2016_ >> m2_synthesis_en.pdf >>>> >>>> The provisional agenda is here: >>>> http://unctad.org/meetings/en/SessionalDocuments/cstd2017_ >> WGEC_2_Agenda_en.pdf >>>> >>>> Any comments or suggestions welcome. I will try to keep you posted. >>>> Remote participation is only open to people who registered in advance. >>>> You can try to register here as observers: https://reg.unog.ch/event/ >> 17618/ >>>> >>>> Meeting starts tomorrow. >>>> >>>> Best >>>> >>>> Anriette >>>> >>>> ----------------------------------------- >>>> Anriette Esterhuysen >>>> Executive Director >>>> Association for Progressive Communications >>>> anriette at apc.org >>>> www.apc.org >>>> IM: ae_apc >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >> >> -- >> ----------------------------------------- >> Anriette Esterhuysen >> Executive Director >> Association for Progressive Communications >> anriette at apc.org >> www.apc.org >> IM: ae_apc >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >> > > > > -- >>> Izumi Aizu << > Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo > Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita, > Japan > www.anr.org > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de Fri Jan 27 10:33:11 2017 From: wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Kleinw=E4chter=2C_Wolfgang=22?=) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 16:33:11 +0100 Subject: AW: [governance] [bestbits] Second WGEC meeting26-27 January 2017, Geneva References: <08da0df2-1f5a-d7e4-d5ff-b15e839d8f9c@apc.org> <5a0b4d2f-e8d0-e1f7-3186-53743f9a2d0d@apc.org> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B2A5@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <06BFEAAB-49C7-4949-974A-40B10B9ECB3D@consensus.pro> Message-ID: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B2A8@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> I agree. Thatswhy I argued for a decentralized (multistakeholder) mechanism. w -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org im Auftrag von Nick Ashton-Hart Gesendet: Fr 27.01.2017 16:22 An: governance at lists.igcaucus.org IGC; Kleinwächter, Wolfgang Cc: Izumi AIZU; Anriette Esterhuysen; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net> APC Members Betreff: Re: [governance] [bestbits] Second WGEC meeting26-27 January 2017, Geneva I think expectations should be low. To be honest, the intergovernmental "action" on most issues has migrated to those processes where there is a mandate for a given area of work - trade to the WTO, INTERPOL/UNODC for crime, etc. > On 27 Jan 2017, at 15:38, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang wrote: > > I am afraid that we won´t see big progress. Too many delegates fight the battles of yesterday. It needs much more political will (from all stakeholders) to look beyond the good language of Tunis and to draft a "enhanced Internet Governance Agenda 2025". > > w > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: izumiaizu at gmail.com im Auftrag von Izumi AIZU > Gesendet: Fr 27.01.2017 15:34 > An: Anriette Esterhuysen > Cc: governance; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net ; APC Members > Betreff: Re: [governance] [bestbits] Second WGEC meeting26-27 January 2017, Geneva > > I also thank you, Anriette and all those who are in cold Geneva, working > hard for this rather difficult to tackle issue of Enhanced cooperation, > still. > > Please keep the good work,and share your views on where it is going > further, if any. > > izumi > > 2017-01-27 18:34 GMT+09:00 Anriette Esterhuysen : > >> Dear Arsene (apologies for cross posting) >> >> Thanks for this. The first day went relatively well, if very slowly. >> >> Follow @sgdickinson for updates. >> >> We talked mostly about the 'characteristics' of enhanced cooperation. >> >> Representing civil society in any unified way is not really possible as >> not all the civil society participants share the same position. We do >> share concerns and values and there is a good working spirit between >> those of us who are here (Parminder Jeet Singh, Richard Hill, Carlos >> Afonso, Lea Kaspar, Jovan Kurbalija and also observers such as Wolfgang >> Kleinwaechter, Puneet Nagaraj and Marilia Maricel). We have not had a >> civil society meeting of any kind yet. >> >> That we have different positions (e.g. on what mechanisms are needed for >> enhanced cooperation, and whether it is about cooperation between >> governments, or between governments and other stakeholders) is also not >> a bad thing in my view. And there are some views we have in common. But >> we cannot say there is a united civil society position at this point. >> >> Cooperation between governments is important. >> >> Cooperation among all stakeholders is also important. >> >> Civil society influence is essential. >> >> Preventing capture from any one government or group of governments or >> stakeholder group, e.g. business, is also important. >> >> I am hoping that discussing how we see enhanced cooperation and how and >> where governments should talk about internet-related public policy, even >> if we have different emphases and proposals would be useful. >> >> Last word ... Geneva is cold! >> >> Anriette >> >> >> On 25/01/2017 13:11, Arsène Tungali wrote: >>> Thanks Anriette, >>> >>> Please do keep us posted of anything relevant to CS. And should you need >> anything from us, do not hesitate >>> >>> Go and represent! >>> >>> Arsene >>> ----------------- >>> Arsène Tungali, >>> @arsenebaguma >>> +243 993810967 >>> GPG: 523644A0 >>> Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) >>> >>>> On Jan 25, 2017, at 12:24 PM, Anriette Esterhuysen >> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear all >>>> >>>> I am in Geneva for the second meeting of the CSTD (Commission on Science >>>> and Technology for Development) Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation >>>> (WGEC). >>>> >>>> APC's and other inputs from members of the Working Group and from >>>> observers are available on the WGEC site: >>>> http://unctad.org/en/pages/MeetingDetails.aspx?meetingid=1215 >>>> >>>> CGI.br produced a synthesis document of the inputs which you can access >>>> here: >>>> http://unctad.org/meetings/en/SessionalDocuments/WGEC2016_ >> m2_synthesis_en.pdf >>>> >>>> The provisional agenda is here: >>>> http://unctad.org/meetings/en/SessionalDocuments/cstd2017_ >> WGEC_2_Agenda_en.pdf >>>> >>>> Any comments or suggestions welcome. I will try to keep you posted. >>>> Remote participation is only open to people who registered in advance. >>>> You can try to register here as observers: https://reg.unog.ch/event/ >> 17618/ >>>> >>>> Meeting starts tomorrow. >>>> >>>> Best >>>> >>>> Anriette >>>> >>>> ----------------------------------------- >>>> Anriette Esterhuysen >>>> Executive Director >>>> Association for Progressive Communications >>>> anriette at apc.org >>>> www.apc.org >>>> IM: ae_apc >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >> >> -- >> ----------------------------------------- >> Anriette Esterhuysen >> Executive Director >> Association for Progressive Communications >> anriette at apc.org >> www.apc.org >> IM: ae_apc >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >> > > > > -- >>> Izumi Aizu << > Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo > Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita, > Japan > www.anr.org > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nashton at consensus.pro Fri Jan 27 10:38:54 2017 From: nashton at consensus.pro (Nick Ashton-Hart) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 16:38:54 +0100 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Second WGEC meeting26-27 January 2017, Geneva In-Reply-To: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B2A8@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> References: <08da0df2-1f5a-d7e4-d5ff-b15e839d8f9c@apc.org> <5a0b4d2f-e8d0-e1f7-3186-53743f9a2d0d@apc.org> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B2A5@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <06BFEAAB-49C7-4949-974A-40B10B9ECB3D@consensus.pro> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B2A8@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: <5B27E2A8-14AE-4562-A594-798D5DD0EFB4@consensus.pro> I doubt that there would be consensus on even that, if it had any political function. Even a coordination function that was entirely focused on the practical would be extremely difficult I think. Aside from anything else, I doubt the USG could agree to anything like that given the Administration’s interest in reducing US funding and engagement in multilateral matters. > On 27 Jan 2017, at 16:33, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang wrote: > > I agree. Thatswhy I argued for a decentralized (multistakeholder) mechanism. > > w > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org im Auftrag von Nick Ashton-Hart > Gesendet: Fr 27.01.2017 16:22 > An: governance at lists.igcaucus.org IGC; Kleinwächter, Wolfgang > Cc: Izumi AIZU; Anriette Esterhuysen; > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net > APC Members > Betreff: Re: [governance] [bestbits] Second WGEC meeting26-27 January 2017, Geneva > > I think expectations should be low. To be honest, the intergovernmental "action" on most issues has migrated to those processes where there is a mandate for a given area of work - trade to the WTO, INTERPOL/UNODC for crime, etc. > >> On 27 Jan 2017, at 15:38, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang wrote: >> >> I am afraid that we won´t see big progress. Too many delegates fight the battles of yesterday. It needs much more political will (from all stakeholders) to look beyond the good language of Tunis and to draft a "enhanced Internet Governance Agenda 2025". >> >> w >> >> >> >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: izumiaizu at gmail.com > im Auftrag von Izumi AIZU >> Gesendet: Fr 27.01.2017 15:34 >> An: Anriette Esterhuysen >> Cc: governance; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net >; APC Members >> Betreff: Re: [governance] [bestbits] Second WGEC meeting26-27 January 2017, Geneva >> >> I also thank you, Anriette and all those who are in cold Geneva, working >> hard for this rather difficult to tackle issue of Enhanced cooperation, >> still. >> >> Please keep the good work,and share your views on where it is going >> further, if any. >> >> izumi >> >> 2017-01-27 18:34 GMT+09:00 Anriette Esterhuysen >: >> >>> Dear Arsene (apologies for cross posting) >>> >>> Thanks for this. The first day went relatively well, if very slowly. >>> >>> Follow @sgdickinson for updates. >>> >>> We talked mostly about the 'characteristics' of enhanced cooperation. >>> >>> Representing civil society in any unified way is not really possible as >>> not all the civil society participants share the same position. We do >>> share concerns and values and there is a good working spirit between >>> those of us who are here (Parminder Jeet Singh, Richard Hill, Carlos >>> Afonso, Lea Kaspar, Jovan Kurbalija and also observers such as Wolfgang >>> Kleinwaechter, Puneet Nagaraj and Marilia Maricel). We have not had a >>> civil society meeting of any kind yet. >>> >>> That we have different positions (e.g. on what mechanisms are needed for >>> enhanced cooperation, and whether it is about cooperation between >>> governments, or between governments and other stakeholders) is also not >>> a bad thing in my view. And there are some views we have in common. But >>> we cannot say there is a united civil society position at this point. >>> >>> Cooperation between governments is important. >>> >>> Cooperation among all stakeholders is also important. >>> >>> Civil society influence is essential. >>> >>> Preventing capture from any one government or group of governments or >>> stakeholder group, e.g. business, is also important. >>> >>> I am hoping that discussing how we see enhanced cooperation and how and >>> where governments should talk about internet-related public policy, even >>> if we have different emphases and proposals would be useful. >>> >>> Last word ... Geneva is cold! >>> >>> Anriette >>> >>> >>> On 25/01/2017 13:11, Arsène Tungali wrote: >>>> Thanks Anriette, >>>> >>>> Please do keep us posted of anything relevant to CS. And should you need >>> anything from us, do not hesitate >>>> >>>> Go and represent! >>>> >>>> Arsene >>>> ----------------- >>>> Arsène Tungali, >>>> @arsenebaguma >>>> +243 993810967 >>>> GPG: 523644A0 >>>> Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) >>>> >>>>> On Jan 25, 2017, at 12:24 PM, Anriette Esterhuysen > >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dear all >>>>> >>>>> I am in Geneva for the second meeting of the CSTD (Commission on Science >>>>> and Technology for Development) Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation >>>>> (WGEC). >>>>> >>>>> APC's and other inputs from members of the Working Group and from >>>>> observers are available on the WGEC site: >>>>> http://unctad.org/en/pages/MeetingDetails.aspx?meetingid=1215 >>>>> >>>>> CGI.br produced a synthesis document of the inputs which you can access >>>>> here: >>>>> http://unctad.org/meetings/en/SessionalDocuments/WGEC2016_ >>> m2_synthesis_en.pdf >>>>> >>>>> The provisional agenda is here: >>>>> http://unctad.org/meetings/en/SessionalDocuments/cstd2017_ >>> WGEC_2_Agenda_en.pdf >>>>> >>>>> Any comments or suggestions welcome. I will try to keep you posted. >>>>> Remote participation is only open to people who registered in advance. >>>>> You can try to register here as observers: https://reg.unog.ch/event/ >>> 17618/ >>>>> >>>>> Meeting starts tomorrow. >>>>> >>>>> Best >>>>> >>>>> Anriette >>>>> >>>>> ----------------------------------------- >>>>> Anriette Esterhuysen >>>>> Executive Director >>>>> Association for Progressive Communications >>>>> anriette at apc.org >>>>> www.apc.org >>>>> IM: ae_apc >>>>> >>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>> >>>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>> >>>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> ----------------------------------------- >>> Anriette Esterhuysen >>> Executive Director >>> Association for Progressive Communications >>> anriette at apc.org >>> www.apc.org >>> IM: ae_apc >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net . >>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >>> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >>> >> >> >> >> -- >>>> Izumi Aizu << >> Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo >> Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita, >> Japan >> www.anr.org >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org > >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ > >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From anriette at apc.org Fri Jan 27 12:08:34 2017 From: anriette at apc.org (Anriette Esterhuysen) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 19:08:34 +0200 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Second WGEC meeting26-27 January 2017, Geneva In-Reply-To: References: <08da0df2-1f5a-d7e4-d5ff-b15e839d8f9c@apc.org> <5a0b4d2f-e8d0-e1f7-3186-53743f9a2d0d@apc.org> Message-ID: <97ba08df-cab6-3dba-1de0-bf181ec2131d@apc.org> Dear all The second meeting of the Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation is coming to an end. We have some consensus on characteristics of enhanced cooperation, e.g.: Transparent Inclusive Consideration of under-represented groups Result-oriented Responsive to innovation There are many more. These are just examples. I will share when they are circulated. This afternoon we discussed recommendations. Some members put forward specific recommendations, others focused on the types of recommendations they believe the group should make (which is in line with the question that was put to members and observers prior to this meeting). Here too there is some agreement. E.g. on participation of developing countries There are divergent views on whether we need new mechanisms, and how formal these mechanisms should be, and what their role should be. The impact of the IANA transition having taken place is clear in that there has not been much focus on ICANN. Some reference has been made to unfinished issues around ICANN jurisdiction and problems with the GAC. But they were made in passing and there appears to be consensus that we are talking about broader issues. I am happy to say that there is broad agreement that all policy processes should involve other stakeholders. The differences lie in whether they are just consulted, or whether they are part of the decision-making processes :) Not a new issue of course. There has also been debate on whether we should move beyond the Tunis Agenda or not. Currently we are talking about next steps. There will be another meeting in May, and another in October. We are also discussing how to move forward in terms of discussing recommendations and producing input documents for the next meeting. The spirit in the room remains polite and constructive with the exception of one moment when there was a tense exchange between a member and the chair, but that diffused pretty quickly. Meeting structure could have been more organised, perhaps, but all in all it did not go badly, and the chair did a very good job. Anriette -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jmalcolm at eff.org Fri Jan 27 13:50:23 2017 From: jmalcolm at eff.org (Jeremy Malcolm) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 10:50:23 -0800 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Second WGEC meeting26-27 January 2017, Geneva In-Reply-To: <5B27E2A8-14AE-4562-A594-798D5DD0EFB4@consensus.pro> References: <08da0df2-1f5a-d7e4-d5ff-b15e839d8f9c@apc.org> <5a0b4d2f-e8d0-e1f7-3186-53743f9a2d0d@apc.org> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B2A5@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <06BFEAAB-49C7-4949-974A-40B10B9ECB3D@consensus.pro> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B2A8@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <5B27E2A8-14AE-4562-A594-798D5DD0EFB4@consensus.pro> Message-ID: On 27/1/17 7:38 am, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote: > I doubt that there would be consensus on even that, if it had any > political function. Even a coordination function that was entirely > focused on the practical would be extremely difficult I think. Aside > from anything else, I doubt the USG could agree to anything like that > given the Administration’s interest in reducing US funding and > engagement in multilateral matters. That's why we just work with what we have, incrementally empowering the IGF to fill that vacuum. -- Jeremy Malcolm Senior Global Policy Analyst Electronic Frontier Foundation https://eff.org jmalcolm at eff.org Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161 :: Defending Your Rights in the Digital World :: Public key: https://www.eff.org/files/2016/11/27/key_jmalcolm.txt PGP fingerprint: 75D2 4C0D 35EA EA2F 8CA8 8F79 4911 EC4A EDDF 1122 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Paulista 1159, cj 1004 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 Sorry for any typos. HAPPY 2017! On 1/27/17, 12:38 PM, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" wrote: I am afraid that we won´t see big progress. Too many delegates fight the battles of yesterday. It needs much more political will (from all stakeholders) to look beyond the good language of Tunis and to draft a "enhanced Internet Governance Agenda 2025". w -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: izumiaizu at gmail.com im Auftrag von Izumi AIZU Gesendet: Fr 27.01.2017 15:34 An: Anriette Esterhuysen Cc: governance; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net; APC Members Betreff: Re: [governance] [bestbits] Second WGEC meeting26-27 January 2017, Geneva I also thank you, Anriette and all those who are in cold Geneva, working hard for this rather difficult to tackle issue of Enhanced cooperation, still. Please keep the good work,and share your views on where it is going further, if any. izumi 2017-01-27 18:34 GMT+09:00 Anriette Esterhuysen : > Dear Arsene (apologies for cross posting) > > Thanks for this. The first day went relatively well, if very slowly. > > Follow @sgdickinson for updates. > > We talked mostly about the 'characteristics' of enhanced cooperation. > > Representing civil society in any unified way is not really possible as > not all the civil society participants share the same position. We do > share concerns and values and there is a good working spirit between > those of us who are here (Parminder Jeet Singh, Richard Hill, Carlos > Afonso, Lea Kaspar, Jovan Kurbalija and also observers such as Wolfgang > Kleinwaechter, Puneet Nagaraj and Marilia Maricel). We have not had a > civil society meeting of any kind yet. > > That we have different positions (e.g. on what mechanisms are needed for > enhanced cooperation, and whether it is about cooperation between > governments, or between governments and other stakeholders) is also not > a bad thing in my view. And there are some views we have in common. But > we cannot say there is a united civil society position at this point. > > Cooperation between governments is important. > > Cooperation among all stakeholders is also important. > > Civil society influence is essential. > > Preventing capture from any one government or group of governments or > stakeholder group, e.g. business, is also important. > > I am hoping that discussing how we see enhanced cooperation and how and > where governments should talk about internet-related public policy, even > if we have different emphases and proposals would be useful. > > Last word ... Geneva is cold! > > Anriette > > > On 25/01/2017 13:11, Arsène Tungali wrote: > > Thanks Anriette, > > > > Please do keep us posted of anything relevant to CS. And should you need > anything from us, do not hesitate > > > > Go and represent! > > > > Arsene > > ----------------- > > Arsène Tungali, > > @arsenebaguma > > +243 993810967 > > GPG: 523644A0 > > Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo > > > > Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) > > > >> On Jan 25, 2017, at 12:24 PM, Anriette Esterhuysen > wrote: > >> > >> Dear all > >> > >> I am in Geneva for the second meeting of the CSTD (Commission on Science > >> and Technology for Development) Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation > >> (WGEC). > >> > >> APC's and other inputs from members of the Working Group and from > >> observers are available on the WGEC site: > >> http://unctad.org/en/pages/MeetingDetails.aspx?meetingid=1215 > >> > >> CGI.br produced a synthesis document of the inputs which you can access > >> here: > >> http://unctad.org/meetings/en/SessionalDocuments/WGEC2016_ > m2_synthesis_en.pdf > >> > >> The provisional agenda is here: > >> http://unctad.org/meetings/en/SessionalDocuments/cstd2017_ > WGEC_2_Agenda_en.pdf > >> > >> Any comments or suggestions welcome. I will try to keep you posted. > >> Remote participation is only open to people who registered in advance. > >> You can try to register here as observers: https://reg.unog.ch/event/ > 17618/ > >> > >> Meeting starts tomorrow. > >> > >> Best > >> > >> Anriette > >> > >> ----------------------------------------- > >> Anriette Esterhuysen > >> Executive Director > >> Association for Progressive Communications > >> anriette at apc.org > >> www.apc.org > >> IM: ae_apc > >> > >> ____________________________________________________________ > >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org > >> To be removed from the list, visit: > >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > >> > >> For all other list information and functions, see: > >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ > >> > >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > To be removed from the list, visit: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > -- > ----------------------------------------- > Anriette Esterhuysen > Executive Director > Association for Progressive Communications > anriette at apc.org > www.apc.org > IM: ae_apc > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > -- >> Izumi Aizu << Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita, Japan www.anr.org ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From willi.uebelherr at riseup.net Fri Jan 27 19:20:40 2017 From: willi.uebelherr at riseup.net (willi uebelherr) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 21:20:40 -0300 Subject: [governance] [Internet Policy] US exclusion of privacy protection In-Reply-To: References: <006a01d277bd$d01cfa50$7056eef0$@ch> <02da34e5-6548-79f9-1091-1cd34fb01754@riseup.net> Message-ID: Dear my great friend Louis, yes, you always understand our situation. Steganografie, our hobby. Encryption theories, our passion. Re-engineering, our play. The independence in all areas is our goal. Voltaire and Kant our teachers. many greetings, willi On 27/01/2017 09:11, Louis Pouzin (well) wrote: > Dear all, > > In a nutshell: to be on the safe side, > - don't travel to USA > - don't travel to countries of the Five Eyes (UK, Canada, Australia, New > Zealand) > - don't use proprietary products or services provided by US firms or their > affiliates > - use open-source software > - use encryption when exchanging mail, documents, software > - fill unessential items with bogus data in collection forms > > Yes, it's a hard life 😂 > Louis > - - - > > 2017-01-26 19:50 GMT+01:00 willi uebelherr : > ... -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From willi.uebelherr at riseup.net Fri Jan 27 19:37:01 2017 From: willi.uebelherr at riseup.net (willi uebelherr) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 21:37:01 -0300 Subject: [governance] [Internet Policy] US exclusion of privacy protection In-Reply-To: References: <006a01d277bd$d01cfa50$7056eef0$@ch> <02da34e5-6548-79f9-1091-1cd34fb01754@riseup.net> Message-ID: <09d213d1-0004-d140-df3a-4951395af465@riseup.net> Startpoint for more information to the Five Eyes: UKUSA-Agreement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UKUSA_Agreement UKUSA-Vereinbarung https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/UKUSA-Vereinbarung I know, that my proposal for the real InterNet, the Inter-connection of local Net-works, a transportsystem for digital data in packet form, can never realised with this mafia. But this is not important for me. We can go around, if we have our own parspectives and visions. many greetings, willi On 27/01/2017 21:20, willi uebelherr wrote: > > Dear my great friend Louis, > > yes, you always understand our situation. Steganografie, our hobby. > Encryption theories, our passion. Re-engineering, our play. > > The independence in all areas is our goal. Voltaire and Kant our teachers. > > many greetings, willi > > > On 27/01/2017 09:11, Louis Pouzin (well) wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> In a nutshell: to be on the safe side, >> - don't travel to USA >> - don't travel to countries of the Five Eyes (UK, Canada, Australia, New >> Zealand) >> - don't use proprietary products or services provided by US firms or >> their >> affiliates >> - use open-source software >> - use encryption when exchanging mail, documents, software >> - fill unessential items with bogus data in collection forms >> >> Yes, it's a hard life 😂 >> Louis >> - - - >> >> 2017-01-26 19:50 GMT+01:00 willi uebelherr : >> ... > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From evelyngeek at gmail.com Sat Jan 28 02:03:01 2017 From: evelyngeek at gmail.com (Evelyn Namara) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2017 10:03:01 +0300 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Please Cameroon did not shut down the Internet !!! In-Reply-To: <4B4986C9-C64C-4F29-92FB-2A16DBF968A5@gmail.com> References: <4B4986C9-C64C-4F29-92FB-2A16DBF968A5@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear all, As a person who has been on the side of the shutdown, it is not right and justifiable to shutdown the Internet, even for a few regions. Mr. Janvier, your comments in this email hit me so hard. As a person who has some level of authority, you should be concerned and fight for all rights of all citizens. The 6 million plus people who make up the 2 regions that are deprived of the Internet also matter. Everyone matters, and like the Internet Society always says "The Internet is for everybody". Let's all fight and make leaders accountable. I stand with the people of Cameroun. On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Joash Moitui wrote: > Thank you all. > > This is a vital interesting topic. Having lived in Cameroon for 3 years, I > would say that the shutdown in these two region is no different from > shutdowns witnessed in Uganda and Gambia for instance. It is simply the > political elite using their political influence to prevent the human rights > violations calling for federation in these areas. The two areas made up of > Anglophones, who have been marginalized largely because of their language > and their calls for federation have been met by internet shutdown and full > force of security agents. It is this that the Cameroon government does not > want to be easily distributed within the social media. > > Joash > > On 27 Jan 2017, at 10:56, Nonhlanhla Chanza > wrote: > > I still weep blood for those two regions. I have never been convinced by > the argument that there might be circumstances that justifies a shutdown. > So many places in turmoil and war in the world but people have access still > to the Internet. > On 26 Jan 2017 17:59, "Janvier NGNOULAYE" wrote: > >> Hi to all, >> It seems to me that the problem of access to Internet in Cameroon is very >> much amplified here on the Net. There are 10 regions in Cameroon, the >> problem of access to the Internet is only concerning 2 Regions. These 2 >> regions actually has some political or social crisis. The government and >> other stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for suitable solutions. >> Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut these two regions of Internet >> access and Western Union money transfer services, for the sake of the >> entire population of these 2 regions. >> Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 regions. I'm sending >> this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. >> So the situation is not a disaster as some seem to publish on the Net. >> The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the government and the other >> stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even if it involves a >> temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union services. >> >> ISOC Cameroon Chapter >> President >> >> 2017-01-26 15:45 GMT+01:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro : >> >>> Hi >>> >>> Indeed, this is a terrible situation, which can happen in any country, >>> which is why everyone should take action. >>> I'd think bringing in ISOC and other organizations will help deepen >>> these efforts. >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Deji Bryce Olukotun < >>> deji at accessnow.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you, Arsène for the introduction and the summary. >>>> >>>> Judith, as Arsène explained, the #KeepitOn coalition >>>> (111 organizations from 51 countries) >>>> is pushing back against the shutdown. Our efforts are being led by Julie >>>> Owono from Internet Without Borders >>>> >>>> . >>>> >>>> At present, we are fighting the shutdown in several ways: >>>> - open letter to government officials and agencies to restore access >>>> - media outreach >>>> - Tweet action at Cameroonian officials >>>> >>>> (please support!) >>>> - outreach to telcos operating in the country, including a statement >>>> from the Global Network Initiative >>>> (Microsoft, >>>> Google, Facebook, Investors, academics) >>>> - outreach to international officials at the UN and AU >>>> - coordination with local groups in Cameroon >>>> - coordinating with CDN's and other measurement entities >>>> >>>> We welcome any ideas or suggestions about how to get the internet >>>> turned back on. With each passing day, people are at increased risk of >>>> human rights violations and the economy is losing money. We'll reach out to >>>> ISOC to coordinate as well. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Deji >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:44 AM, Arsène Tungali >>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Judith, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for sharing this with us. What's going on in Cameroon is just a >>>>> shame. For colleagues who have never experienced Internet shutdown, please >>>>> understand that it is a nightmare. >>>>> >>>>> On this note about Cameroon, several organizations including Access >>>>> Now and Internet Without Borders >>>>> are >>>>> doing a lot of advocacy and statements >>>>> , >>>>> letters have been sent to officials in Cameroon to ask them to bring back >>>>> the Internet. A hashtag about this has been started and you can take action >>>>> as well: #BringBackkOutInternet >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> You can learn more about the #KeepItOn >>>>> campaign here >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> Eduard Snowden sent in a tweet >>>>> where he >>>>> said: "*This is the future of repression. If we do not fight it >>>>> there, it will happen here*" and I cannot agree more with him because >>>>> it is just going from one country to another. Over 8 countries in Africa, >>>>> including mine the DRC, have experienced shutdown and no one knows who is >>>>> next. Acces Now has reported 15 >>>>> Internet shutdowns across the world in 2015 and 56 in 2016 >>>>> >>>>> If there is any question about all the statements and campaigns, I am >>>>> happy to help or convey your questions since I am involved, on a personal >>>>> capacity, in these movements advocating and fighting Internet shutdowns >>>>> across Africa. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Arsene >>>>> >>>>> PS: Copied is Deji Olukotun who works on Advocacy for Access Now. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------ >>>>> **Arsène Tungali** >>>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >>>>> *, >>>>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa >>>>> Forum * >>>>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> >>>>> GPG: 523644A0 >>>>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >>>>> >>>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >>>>> >>>>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >>>>> >>>>> & Mexico >>>>> ) >>>>> - AFRISIG 2016 - >>>>> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >>>>> & Marrakech >>>>> >>>>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >>>>> >>>>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2017-01-26 5:34 GMT+02:00 Judith Hellerstein >>>>> : >>>>> >>>>>> HI All, >>>>>> >>>>>> Just passing on a note from Mafor Edwan of ISOC Cameroon about the >>>>>> Cameroonian Government shut down of the Internet in his country. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am at a loss for words of yet another country that has cut off >>>>>> Internet Access for its citizens. Thanks to ISOC Cameroon for all their >>>>>> efforts to resolve this crisis, even though they have not been successful, >>>>>> I am glad that they have tried. I am a passionate believer in an open >>>>>> Internet. One that is available to all. By connecting the world, working >>>>>> with others, and advocating for equal access to the Internet, We can make >>>>>> the world a better place. >>>>>> Edwan hopes people can share this word about this and hopefully some >>>>>> one can reach the President and tell him what a bad idea this is. I told >>>>>> him I would share it around. Hope others can do the same >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> Judith >>>>>> >>>>>> _________________________________________________________________________ >>>>>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO >>>>>> Hellerstein & Associates >>>>>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 >>>>>> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein >>>>>> E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com >>>>>> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ >>>>>> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] FYI- Constance's blog post about >>>>>> the G20 - and the updated Internet Governance timeline >>>>>> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:49:53 -0500 >>>>>> From: Queen Mother >>>>>> To: Dan York >>>>>> CC: ISOC Chapter Delegates >>>>>> , Carl Gahnberg >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Good evening Fellow ISOC Delegates, >>>>>> >>>>>> I bring you sad news about the state of internet access in my home >>>>>> country Cameroon. >>>>>> I have sobbed uncontrollably for weeks as the govt of my country >>>>>> tortures and mimes her citizens and recently has cut off the ability to >>>>>> send financial support to our families through western union and has now >>>>>> cut off the internet. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please if you can read the articles below. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cameroon Cuts Internet in English-speaking Regions >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.voanews.com/a/cameroon-cuts-internet-in-english-s >>>>>> peaking-regions/3682688.html >>>>>> >>>>>> How Cameroon pressured mobile operators to shut down the internet and >>>>>> stifle dissent >>>>>> >>>>>> https://qz.com/893401/cameroon-pressured-mtn-and-other-opera >>>>>> tors-to-shut-down-internet-in-bamenda-buea-regions/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> Mafor edwan >>>>>> Vice President #2 >>>>>> ISOC Cameroon >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de Sat Jan 28 05:30:41 2017 From: wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Kleinw=E4chter=2C_Wolfgang=22?=) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2017 11:30:41 +0100 Subject: AW: [governance] [bestbits] Second WGEC meeting26-27 January 2017, Geneva References: <08da0df2-1f5a-d7e4-d5ff-b15e839d8f9c@apc.org> <5a0b4d2f-e8d0-e1f7-3186-53743f9a2d0d@apc.org> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B2A5@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <06BFEAAB-49C7-4949-974A-40B10B9ECB3D@consensus.pro> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B2A8@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <5B27E2A8-14AE-4562-A594-798D5DD0EFB4@consensus.pro> Message-ID: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B2AB@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Jeremy: That's why we just work with what we have, incrementally empowering the IGF to fill that vacuum. W: 1+. You are absolutely right. This is the only way forward. But it needs some time before "traditionalists" will recognize, that the UN resolution language - IGF and enhanced cooperation are two different animals - is, in particular after the completion of the IANA transition, water under the bridge. -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From wjdrake at gmail.com Sat Jan 28 05:46:05 2017 From: wjdrake at gmail.com (William Drake) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2017 11:46:05 +0100 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Second WGEC meeting26-27 January 2017, Geneva In-Reply-To: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B2AB@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> References: <08da0df2-1f5a-d7e4-d5ff-b15e839d8f9c@apc.org> <5a0b4d2f-e8d0-e1f7-3186-53743f9a2d0d@apc.org> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B2A5@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <06BFEAAB-49C7-4949-974A-40B10B9ECB3D@consensus.pro> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B2A8@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <5B27E2A8-14AE-4562-A594-798D5DD0EFB4@consensus.pro> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B2AB@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: Hi > On Jan 28, 2017, at 11:30, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang wrote: > > > Jeremy: > That's why we just work with what we have, incrementally empowering the IGF to fill that vacuum. > > W: > 1+. You are absolutely right. This is the only way forward. But it needs some time before "traditionalists" will recognize, that the UN resolution language - IGF and enhanced cooperation are two different animals - is, in particular after the completion of the IANA transition, water under the bridge. > +1 another. Still think WGEC should at least discuss putting something in place under IGF aegis, e.g. > On Dec 14, 2016, at 13:31, William Drake wrote: > > Strengthening the IGF is nominally a topic outside the WGEC’s planned scope, but in the event that some people once again lock in on the long-running and highly contested demand for an intergovernmental policy space, there could be a connection made. As I suggested in the WGIG+10 anniversary book released earlier this year, “the most desirable approach would be to create an intergovernmental working group under the umbrella of the IGF. After all, governments already routinely meet for high-level events alongside IGF meetings, and they could similarly add a day to each of the IGF’s Open Consultations to engage in dialogue on a work programme, preferably subject to rules of procedure that allow nongovernmental participants to observe and weigh in at designated times, etc. But as such a proposal seems unlikely to garner support from the governments in question, perhaps an ongoing working group under the aegis of the CSTD could be an alternative.” While the objections are easy to anticipate, either approach would be better than the G77’s & China’s proposal to the WSIS+10 review for a stand-alone intergovernmental ‘forum,’ or than a status quo in which discussions get diverted into the ITU, Wuzhen, etc. And the IGF umbrella presumably could have the positive externality of deepening government engagement in the rest of the IGF process. > > That said, I suspect there’s little hope of such suggestions being seriously considered, and that things will continue to drift along as is… > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nyangkweagien at gmail.com Sat Jan 28 09:03:34 2017 From: nyangkweagien at gmail.com (Nyangkwe Agien Aaron) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2017 15:03:34 +0100 Subject: [governance] Internet Connection officially Severed in Anglophone Cameroon Pleaase help Message-ID: Dear All It has been roughly a month that the people of the anglophone regions (formerly Southern Cameroons) of Cameroon have had internet cut off. The minister of Post and Telecommunication states that it was for security reasons. MTN the operator that supplys internet in the zone stated that they were under contractual obligations to cut internet from the area. The situation is causing some economic and human rights havoc One should recall that the entire anglophone region is currently on a school strike action and ghost towns untill the government ascribes to the demand of a two states federation, reinstate the anglosaxone system of education that has been sytematically destroyed and diluted into the french system (Cameroun is a bilingual country) and its justice sytem. It was vey common to find a francophone teacher lecturing anglophone students physics in pidgin or you find francophone Magistrates handing litigations in anglophone territory in french. When lawyer organized a peaceful march against this, they were severely beaten wounded and their robes torn. Students of the University of Buea were tortured and some raped. Leaders of the Consortium of Anglophone Civil societies organizations that handled negociations with government to look into the issues ahve been arrested and are currently court-marshalled on counts of terrorism etc. More to that a Supreme Court Attorney General (Paul Ayah Abine) was arrested including an appeal Court Magistrate wre currently under detention for voicing their concern over the situation in Anglophone Cameroon I cannot make a call from my phone either What can IG Caucaus do in such a horrible situation -- Aaron Agien NYANGKWE Journalist-Outcome Mapper P.O.Box 5213 Douala-Cameroon Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From iyedigoma at gmail.com Sat Jan 28 09:10:12 2017 From: iyedigoma at gmail.com (Iyedi Goma) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2017 15:10:12 +0100 Subject: [governance] Internet Connection officially Severed in Anglophone Cameroon Pleaase help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It is really terrible and sad situation, all the community need to stand-up as one, to force the Cameroon government to change that situation. Take care Le 28 janv. 2017 3:03 PM, "Nyangkwe Agien Aaron" a écrit : > Dear All > > It has been roughly a month that the people of the anglophone regions > (formerly Southern Cameroons) of Cameroon have had internet cut off. The > minister of Post and Telecommunication states that it was for security > reasons. MTN the operator that supplys internet in the zone stated that > they were under contractual obligations to cut internet from the area. The > situation is causing some economic and human rights havoc > > One should recall that the entire anglophone region is currently on a > school strike action and ghost towns untill the government ascribes to the > demand of a two states federation, reinstate the anglosaxone system of > education that has been sytematically destroyed and diluted into the french > system (Cameroun is a bilingual country) and its justice sytem. > > It was vey common to find a francophone teacher lecturing anglophone > students physics in pidgin or you find francophone Magistrates handing > litigations in anglophone territory in french. When lawyer organized a > peaceful march against this, they were severely beaten wounded and their > robes torn. Students of the University of Buea were tortured and some raped. > > Leaders of the Consortium of Anglophone Civil societies organizations that > handled negociations with government to look into the issues ahve been > arrested and are currently court-marshalled on counts of terrorism etc. > More to that a Supreme Court Attorney General (Paul Ayah Abine) was > arrested including an appeal Court Magistrate wre currently under detention > for voicing their concern over the situation in Anglophone Cameroon > > I cannot make a call from my phone either > > What can IG Caucaus do in such a horrible situation > > -- > Aaron Agien NYANGKWE > Journalist-Outcome Mapper > P.O.Box 5213 > Douala-Cameroon > Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nyangkweagien at gmail.com Sat Jan 28 09:19:50 2017 From: nyangkweagien at gmail.com (Nyangkwe Agien Aaron) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2017 15:19:50 +0100 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Please Cameroon did not shut down the Internet !!! In-Reply-To: References: <4B4986C9-C64C-4F29-92FB-2A16DBF968A5@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear All I am right here in Douala Cameroun. And when I read Janvier, I will want many people to understand one thing. Mister Janvier is francophone. To many francophones, rights belong to authorities and not peoples . People must fear not respect authorities because the said authorities have all powers (they call it in french (plein pouvoirs) to do and undo on every citizen. To him, a Sous Prefet can ask for internet to be suspended in some part of Cameroon, he is in his right as an authority. Currently, a Supreme Court Atorney General, Mr Paul Ayah Abine is arrested and is in detention without due process. The same is the case another Magistrate in Buea who was arrested and ferried to Yaounde a day ago. Their crime; for supporting the anglophone call for a federation. To the likes of Janvier, it is the Government that gives liberty (C'est le gouvernement qui donne la liberté in French) The civilized world must act against such egregious obscurantism Agien Nyangkwe On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Evelyn Namara wrote: > Dear all, > > As a person who has been on the side of the shutdown, it is not right and > justifiable to shutdown the Internet, even for a few regions. > Mr. Janvier, your comments in this email hit me so hard. As a person who > has some level of authority, you should be concerned and fight for all > rights of all citizens. > > The 6 million plus people who make up the 2 regions that are deprived of > the Internet also matter. Everyone matters, and like the Internet Society > always says "The Internet is for everybody". > > Let's all fight and make leaders accountable. > > I stand with the people of Cameroun. > > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Joash Moitui > wrote: > >> Thank you all. >> >> This is a vital interesting topic. Having lived in Cameroon for 3 years, >> I would say that the shutdown in these two region is no different from >> shutdowns witnessed in Uganda and Gambia for instance. It is simply the >> political elite using their political influence to prevent the human rights >> violations calling for federation in these areas. The two areas made up of >> Anglophones, who have been marginalized largely because of their language >> and their calls for federation have been met by internet shutdown and full >> force of security agents. It is this that the Cameroon government does not >> want to be easily distributed within the social media. >> >> Joash >> >> On 27 Jan 2017, at 10:56, Nonhlanhla Chanza >> wrote: >> >> I still weep blood for those two regions. I have never been convinced by >> the argument that there might be circumstances that justifies a shutdown. >> So many places in turmoil and war in the world but people have access still >> to the Internet. >> On 26 Jan 2017 17:59, "Janvier NGNOULAYE" wrote: >> >>> Hi to all, >>> It seems to me that the problem of access to Internet in Cameroon is >>> very much amplified here on the Net. There are 10 regions in Cameroon, the >>> problem of access to the Internet is only concerning 2 Regions. These 2 >>> regions actually has some political or social crisis. The government and >>> other stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for suitable solutions. >>> Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut these two regions of Internet >>> access and Western Union money transfer services, for the sake of the >>> entire population of these 2 regions. >>> Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 regions. I'm sending >>> this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. >>> So the situation is not a disaster as some seem to publish on the Net. >>> The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the government and the other >>> stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even if it involves a >>> temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union services. >>> >>> ISOC Cameroon Chapter >>> President >>> >>> 2017-01-26 15:45 GMT+01:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro : >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> Indeed, this is a terrible situation, which can happen in any country, >>>> which is why everyone should take action. >>>> I'd think bringing in ISOC and other organizations will help deepen >>>> these efforts. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Deji Bryce Olukotun < >>>> deji at accessnow.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thank you, Arsène for the introduction and the summary. >>>>> >>>>> Judith, as Arsène explained, the #KeepitOn coalition >>>>> (111 organizations from 51 countries) >>>>> is pushing back against the shutdown. Our efforts are being led by Julie >>>>> Owono from Internet Without Borders >>>>> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> At present, we are fighting the shutdown in several ways: >>>>> - open letter to government officials and agencies to restore access >>>>> - media outreach >>>>> - Tweet action at Cameroonian officials >>>>> >>>>> (please support!) >>>>> - outreach to telcos operating in the country, including a statement >>>>> from the Global Network Initiative >>>>> (Microsoft, >>>>> Google, Facebook, Investors, academics) >>>>> - outreach to international officials at the UN and AU >>>>> - coordination with local groups in Cameroon >>>>> - coordinating with CDN's and other measurement entities >>>>> >>>>> We welcome any ideas or suggestions about how to get the internet >>>>> turned back on. With each passing day, people are at increased risk of >>>>> human rights violations and the economy is losing money. We'll reach out to >>>>> ISOC to coordinate as well. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Deji >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:44 AM, Arsène Tungali < >>>>> arsenebaguma at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Judith, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for sharing this with us. What's going on in Cameroon is just >>>>>> a shame. For colleagues who have never experienced Internet shutdown, >>>>>> please understand that it is a nightmare. >>>>>> >>>>>> On this note about Cameroon, several organizations including Access >>>>>> Now and Internet Without Borders >>>>>> are >>>>>> doing a lot of advocacy and statements >>>>>> , >>>>>> letters have been sent to officials in Cameroon to ask them to bring back >>>>>> the Internet. A hashtag about this has been started and you can take action >>>>>> as well: #BringBackkOutInternet >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> You can learn more about the #KeepItOn >>>>>> campaign here >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> Eduard Snowden sent in a tweet >>>>>> where he >>>>>> said: "*This is the future of repression. If we do not fight it >>>>>> there, it will happen here*" and I cannot agree more with him >>>>>> because it is just going from one country to another. Over 8 countries in >>>>>> Africa, including mine the DRC, have experienced shutdown and no one knows >>>>>> who is next. Acces Now has reported >>>>>> 15 Internet shutdowns across the >>>>>> world in 2015 and 56 in 2016 >>>>>> >>>>>> If there is any question about all the statements and campaigns, I am >>>>>> happy to help or convey your questions since I am involved, on a personal >>>>>> capacity, in these movements advocating and fighting Internet shutdowns >>>>>> across Africa. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Arsene >>>>>> >>>>>> PS: Copied is Deji Olukotun who works on Advocacy for Access Now. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------ >>>>>> **Arsène Tungali** >>>>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >>>>>> *, >>>>>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa >>>>>> Forum * >>>>>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> >>>>>> GPG: 523644A0 >>>>>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >>>>>> >>>>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >>>>>> >>>>>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >>>>>> >>>>>> & Mexico >>>>>> ) >>>>>> - AFRISIG 2016 - >>>>>> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >>>>>> & Marrakech >>>>>> >>>>>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >>>>>> >>>>>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2017-01-26 5:34 GMT+02:00 Judith Hellerstein >>>>> >: >>>>>> >>>>>>> HI All, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just passing on a note from Mafor Edwan of ISOC Cameroon about the >>>>>>> Cameroonian Government shut down of the Internet in his country. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am at a loss for words of yet another country that has cut off >>>>>>> Internet Access for its citizens. Thanks to ISOC Cameroon for all their >>>>>>> efforts to resolve this crisis, even though they have not been successful, >>>>>>> I am glad that they have tried. I am a passionate believer in an open >>>>>>> Internet. One that is available to all. By connecting the world, working >>>>>>> with others, and advocating for equal access to the Internet, We can make >>>>>>> the world a better place. >>>>>>> Edwan hopes people can share this word about this and hopefully some >>>>>>> one can reach the President and tell him what a bad idea this is. I told >>>>>>> him I would share it around. Hope others can do the same >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> Judith >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO >>>>>>> Hellerstein & Associates >>>>>>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 >>>>>>> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein >>>>>>> E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com >>>>>>> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ >>>>>>> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] FYI- Constance's blog post about >>>>>>> the G20 - and the updated Internet Governance timeline >>>>>>> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:49:53 -0500 >>>>>>> From: Queen Mother >>>>>>> To: Dan York >>>>>>> CC: ISOC Chapter Delegates >>>>>>> , Carl Gahnberg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Good evening Fellow ISOC Delegates, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I bring you sad news about the state of internet access in my home >>>>>>> country Cameroon. >>>>>>> I have sobbed uncontrollably for weeks as the govt of my country >>>>>>> tortures and mimes her citizens and recently has cut off the ability to >>>>>>> send financial support to our families through western union and has now >>>>>>> cut off the internet. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please if you can read the articles below. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cameroon Cuts Internet in English-speaking Regions >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.voanews.com/a/cameroon-cuts-internet-in-english-s >>>>>>> peaking-regions/3682688.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How Cameroon pressured mobile operators to shut down the internet >>>>>>> and stifle dissent >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://qz.com/893401/cameroon-pressured-mtn-and-other-opera >>>>>>> tors-to-shut-down-internet-in-bamenda-buea-regions/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>> Mafor edwan >>>>>>> Vice President #2 >>>>>>> ISOC Cameroon >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> As an 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Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nyangkweagien at gmail.com Sat Jan 28 09:32:15 2017 From: nyangkweagien at gmail.com (Nyangkwe Agien Aaron) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2017 15:32:15 +0100 Subject: [governance] Fwd: [cameroon_politics] PAUL AYAH IN A DUNGEON IN YAOUNDE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: PAUL AYAH Supreme Court Attorney General IN A DUNGEON IN YAOUNDE THE AYAH FAMILY DECLARARATION Herein is a true picture of the ordeal that has plagued the Ayah’s since Thursday January 19 2017 We, the AYAH Family find it primordial to give a true account of events that occasioned the unlawful arrest and current false detention of AYAH Paul ABINE (ADVOCATE GENERAL OF THE SUPREME COURT and NATIONAL CHAIRMAN OF THE POPULAR ACTION PARTY) at the National Gendarmerie Headquarters, Yaoundé. Here are the facts and we challenge detractors to prove the contrary: On Thursday January 19 2017, 2 unidentified men got to the premises of the Supreme Court and offered some individual money requesting him to show them Ayah’s residence. He turned down their offer and immediately reported to Ayah. While doing so, the said individuals barged into Ayah’s office and ordered Ayah to sign a summons to appear before a certain colonel at The National Gendarmerie Headquarters Yaounde (SED) for interrogation, failure of which he would be taken there by force. Ayah told them that the law provides that he can only be served through his departmental head. The individuals resorted to making calls for approximately 90 minutes, asking what measures to take. As the calls bore no fruit, Ayah is put in contact with a certain colonel on phone to whom Ayah restates the position of the law. Following the colonel’s insistence, Ayah agreed to report the following day for a courtesy visit and not for an interrogation. The following day, Friday 20 2017, Ayah briefed his lawyers who cautioned with insistence that Ayah should not condone illegality by reporting at SED without having been served legally. At 11:20 that day, the said colonel called Ayah with regard to the interrogation but Ayah reiterated his previous stance, and requested to be served in accordance with the law. The colonel then reassured Ayah that he will be legally served on Monday January 23 2017 as both individuals agree on that appointment. Meanwhile, reading their intentions well in advance, Ayah briefed some diplomatic quarters on the dangers that awaited him that same Friday. On Saturday January 21 2017, 6 unidentified armed men barged into Ayah’s premises at 5:05pm. Ayah Paul is told by their leader he had to go with them to a certain personality’s premises immediately and that any manner of resistance will be met with brutality. The men were asked to present their warrant and they respond with threats. Ayah Paul tries to find out who they are and who ordered his arrest but threats only intensified. Ayah’s attempt to explain to the men the rules that govern arrests of persons was over ridden by one of the men who gripped him with the intent of pulling him off his seat but for the intervention of Ayah’s son who told them that Ayah needed to dress up (Ayah was not dressed up at this moment in time). Ayah was prevented from making and answering any calls (not even to his counsel), alongside all who were in his residence at the time. Ayah’s spouse was denied even her privacy as she was followed into her bedroom by the said men as she went to change clothes to accompany her husband to whatever place he was to be taken to. Same applied to others who were present. Ayah’s questions as to who ordered his arrest, the reasons behind the arrest, and the charges against him repeatedly fell on deaf ears. Whereas upon his unlawful arrest he was told that he had to be taken to meet a certain authority undisclosed to his family, it was while following them that Ayah’s son was called by his mum informing him that the destination had changed and that Ayah Paul was now being taken to SED. Upon arrival at the said destination, Ayah was informed he will be detained there for an undetermined period of time. Ayah was then locked up in a small windowless air-tight room cut off from direct sunlight and in which there is unstable power supply. Ayah Paul almost gave up the ghost on Sunday night as a result of the extremely harsh conditions in which he was detained, but for the timely intervention of one of the men on duty. On Monday morning as Ayah was visited by his family for breakfast, Ayah’s face was swollen considerably, his blood pressure had risen to about 185, his sight failing, his demeanor very worrying and his heart condition disturbing as diagnosed by a military nurse called to rescue. After extreme pressure from Ayah and his counsel, Ayah was relocated to a more humane cell. An official medical doctor announced for later that day has never shown up as we write. A Cardiologist alongside an ophthalmologist were rushed to Ayah only on Wednesday January 25 2017 by his family to stabilise Ayah’s worrying health situation. Surprisingly, the cardiologist contacted by the family was denied the hospital booklet and report by the military nurse who previously checked Ayah, preventing appropriate medical follow up by the said cardiologist. The ophthalmologist equally provided palliatives pending proper medical examination at their clinics. Ayah’s phone has been confiscated, he is entitled to no visits but from a list of five persons he gave who qualify to serve him food. As if the often intimidation of some of his lawyers isn’t enough, Ayah is even deprived from signing documents that will enable his orphanages to operate smoothly. These and others which we reserve to ourselves are the facts that have occurred since Thursday, January 19 2017, and we challenge the authorities that be to prove the contrary. Guided by the above, we hereby conclude: 1. That AYAH Paul ABINE was unlawfully arrested at his residence on Saturday, January 21 2017 by unidentified men. 2. That the victim is currently falsely imprisoned at the gendarmerie Headquarters, Yaoundé (SED), due to the gross irregularities occasioning his unlawful arrest (gross breach of procedure: Absence of warrant; breach of article 629 of the CPC, etc). 3. That the victim’s health has sharply deteriorated, with him developing an unusual heart condition and his sight affected, owing to the conditions of detention. 4. That AYAH Paul ABINE almost gave up the ghost on Sunday night due to the inhumane conditions surrounding his detention in the unventilated cell and escalating temperatures therein. 5. That AYAH Paul ABINE has not been formally charged with a crime neither is he clearly in the know of the reasons surrounding his unlawful arrest, nor the authority who ordered for his arrest. That no evidence has been presented to the victim since his arrest which warranted the extraordinary events that have so far occurred. 6. That the victim doesn’t have free access to some of his lawyers in order to prepare a possible defense for whatever charge against him, nor to get information on his health condition. 7. That the victim’s mobile phone has been seized and no manner of communication is at his disposal. 8. That the victim is even deprived of documents to be signed by him for the smooth running of his orphanages. 9. That AYAH’s privacy has been violated including that of his entire household by the men who barged into his residence without a warrant and even went into bedrooms, depriving even Ayah’s spouse of her privacy. 10. That there is enough evidence to conclude that if the said men met AYAH alone at his residence on the day of his unlawful arrest, the worst MAY have occurred. We therefore demand AYAH Paul ABINE’s immediate and unconditional release. Done this day, January 27, 2017 by the Family… ENDALE VALENTINE AYAH (spouse) And approved of, by the entire AYAH Family Sent from my iPhone __._,_.___ ------------------------------ Posted by: Tabong Kima ------------------------------ Reply via web post • Reply to sender • Reply to group • Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (1) ------------------------------ Have you tried the highest rated email app? 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In-Reply-To: References: <4B4986C9-C64C-4F29-92FB-2A16DBF968A5@gmail.com> Message-ID: It is quite unfortunate the situation in Cameroon, especially how people argue out human rights issues when the pinching shoe is on the neighbors leg, when their "enemy", imagined or real, is being persecuted. ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh On 28 January 2017 at 18:19, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron wrote: > Dear All > > I am right here in Douala Cameroun. And when I read Janvier, I will want > many people to understand one thing. Mister Janvier is francophone. To many > francophones, rights belong to authorities and not peoples . People must > fear not respect authorities because the said authorities have all powers > (they call it in french (plein pouvoirs) to do and undo on every citizen. > > To him, a Sous Prefet can ask for internet to be suspended in some part of > Cameroon, he is in his right as an authority. Currently, a Supreme Court > Atorney General, Mr Paul Ayah Abine is arrested and is in detention without > due process. The same is the case another Magistrate in Buea who was > arrested and ferried to Yaounde a day ago. Their crime; for supporting the > anglophone call for a federation. > > To the likes of Janvier, it is the Government that gives liberty (C'est le > gouvernement qui donne la liberté in French) > > The civilized world must act against such egregious obscurantism > > Agien Nyangkwe > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Evelyn Namara > wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> As a person who has been on the side of the shutdown, it is not right and >> justifiable to shutdown the Internet, even for a few regions. >> Mr. Janvier, your comments in this email hit me so hard. As a person who >> has some level of authority, you should be concerned and fight for all >> rights of all citizens. >> >> The 6 million plus people who make up the 2 regions that are deprived of >> the Internet also matter. Everyone matters, and like the Internet Society >> always says "The Internet is for everybody". >> >> Let's all fight and make leaders accountable. >> >> I stand with the people of Cameroun. >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Joash Moitui >> wrote: >> >>> Thank you all. >>> >>> This is a vital interesting topic. Having lived in Cameroon for 3 years, >>> I would say that the shutdown in these two region is no different from >>> shutdowns witnessed in Uganda and Gambia for instance. It is simply the >>> political elite using their political influence to prevent the human rights >>> violations calling for federation in these areas. The two areas made up of >>> Anglophones, who have been marginalized largely because of their language >>> and their calls for federation have been met by internet shutdown and full >>> force of security agents. It is this that the Cameroon government does not >>> want to be easily distributed within the social media. >>> >>> Joash >>> >>> On 27 Jan 2017, at 10:56, Nonhlanhla Chanza >>> wrote: >>> >>> I still weep blood for those two regions. I have never been convinced by >>> the argument that there might be circumstances that justifies a shutdown. >>> So many places in turmoil and war in the world but people have access still >>> to the Internet. >>> On 26 Jan 2017 17:59, "Janvier NGNOULAYE" wrote: >>> >>>> Hi to all, >>>> It seems to me that the problem of access to Internet in Cameroon is >>>> very much amplified here on the Net. There are 10 regions in Cameroon, the >>>> problem of access to the Internet is only concerning 2 Regions. These 2 >>>> regions actually has some political or social crisis. The government and >>>> other stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for suitable solutions. >>>> Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut these two regions of Internet >>>> access and Western Union money transfer services, for the sake of the >>>> entire population of these 2 regions. >>>> Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 regions. I'm sending >>>> this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. >>>> So the situation is not a disaster as some seem to publish on the Net. >>>> The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the government and the other >>>> stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even if it involves a >>>> temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union services. >>>> >>>> ISOC Cameroon Chapter >>>> President >>>> >>>> 2017-01-26 15:45 GMT+01:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro : >>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>> Indeed, this is a terrible situation, which can happen in any country, >>>>> which is why everyone should take action. >>>>> I'd think bringing in ISOC and other organizations will help deepen >>>>> these efforts. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Deji Bryce Olukotun < >>>>> deji at accessnow.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thank you, Arsène for the introduction and the summary. >>>>>> >>>>>> Judith, as Arsène explained, the #KeepitOn coalition >>>>>> (111 organizations from 51 >>>>>> countries) is pushing back against the shutdown. Our efforts are being led >>>>>> by Julie Owono from Internet Without Borders >>>>>> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> At present, we are fighting the shutdown in several ways: >>>>>> - open letter to government officials and agencies to restore access >>>>>> - media outreach >>>>>> - Tweet action at Cameroonian officials >>>>>> >>>>>> (please support!) >>>>>> - outreach to telcos operating in the country, including a statement >>>>>> from the Global Network Initiative >>>>>> (Microsoft, >>>>>> Google, Facebook, Investors, academics) >>>>>> - outreach to international officials at the UN and AU >>>>>> - coordination with local groups in Cameroon >>>>>> - coordinating with CDN's and other measurement entities >>>>>> >>>>>> We welcome any ideas or suggestions about how to get the internet >>>>>> turned back on. With each passing day, people are at increased risk of >>>>>> human rights violations and the economy is losing money. We'll reach out to >>>>>> ISOC to coordinate as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> Deji >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:44 AM, Arsène Tungali < >>>>>> arsenebaguma at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Judith, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for sharing this with us. What's going on in Cameroon is just >>>>>>> a shame. For colleagues who have never experienced Internet shutdown, >>>>>>> please understand that it is a nightmare. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On this note about Cameroon, several organizations including Access >>>>>>> Now and Internet Without Borders >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> doing a lot of advocacy and statements >>>>>>> , >>>>>>> letters have been sent to officials in Cameroon to ask them to bring back >>>>>>> the Internet. A hashtag about this has been started and you can take action >>>>>>> as well: #BringBackkOutInternet >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can learn more about the #KeepItOn >>>>>>> campaign here >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Eduard Snowden sent in a tweet >>>>>>> where he >>>>>>> said: "*This is the future of repression. If we do not fight it >>>>>>> there, it will happen here*" and I cannot agree more with him >>>>>>> because it is just going from one country to another. Over 8 countries in >>>>>>> Africa, including mine the DRC, have experienced shutdown and no one knows >>>>>>> who is next. Acces Now has reported >>>>>>> 15 Internet shutdowns across >>>>>>> the world in 2015 and 56 in 2016 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If there is any question about all the statements and campaigns, I >>>>>>> am happy to help or convey your questions since I am involved, on a >>>>>>> personal capacity, in these movements advocating and fighting Internet >>>>>>> shutdowns across Africa. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Arsene >>>>>>> >>>>>>> PS: Copied is Deji Olukotun who works on Advocacy for Access Now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------ >>>>>>> **Arsène Tungali** >>>>>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >>>>>>> *, >>>>>>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa >>>>>>> Forum * >>>>>>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> >>>>>>> GPG: 523644A0 >>>>>>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >>>>>>> >>>>>>> & Mexico >>>>>>> ) >>>>>>> - AFRISIG 2016 - >>>>>>> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >>>>>>> & Marrakech >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >>>>>>> >>>>>>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2017-01-26 5:34 GMT+02:00 Judith Hellerstein < >>>>>>> judith at jhellerstein.com>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> HI All, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just passing on a note from Mafor Edwan of ISOC Cameroon about the >>>>>>>> Cameroonian Government shut down of the Internet in his country. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am at a loss for words of yet another country that has cut off >>>>>>>> Internet Access for its citizens. Thanks to ISOC Cameroon for all their >>>>>>>> efforts to resolve this crisis, even though they have not been successful, >>>>>>>> I am glad that they have tried. I am a passionate believer in an open >>>>>>>> Internet. One that is available to all. By connecting the world, working >>>>>>>> with others, and advocating for equal access to the Internet, We can make >>>>>>>> the world a better place. >>>>>>>> Edwan hopes people can share this word about this and hopefully >>>>>>>> some one can reach the President and tell him what a bad idea this is. I >>>>>>>> told him I would share it around. Hope others can do the same >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> Judith >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO >>>>>>>> Hellerstein & Associates >>>>>>>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 >>>>>>>> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein >>>>>>>> E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com >>>>>>>> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ >>>>>>>> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] FYI- Constance's blog post about >>>>>>>> the G20 - and the updated Internet Governance timeline >>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:49:53 -0500 >>>>>>>> From: Queen Mother >>>>>>>> To: Dan York >>>>>>>> CC: ISOC Chapter Delegates >>>>>>>> , Carl Gahnberg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good evening Fellow ISOC Delegates, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I bring you sad news about the state of internet access in my home >>>>>>>> country Cameroon. >>>>>>>> I have sobbed uncontrollably for weeks as the govt of my country >>>>>>>> tortures and mimes her citizens and recently has cut off the ability to >>>>>>>> send financial support to our families through western union and has now >>>>>>>> cut off the internet. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please if you can read the articles below. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cameroon Cuts Internet in English-speaking Regions >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.voanews.com/a/cameroon-cuts-internet-in-english-s >>>>>>>> peaking-regions/3682688.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How Cameroon pressured mobile operators to shut down the internet >>>>>>>> and stifle dissent >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://qz.com/893401/cameroon-pressured-mtn-and-other-opera >>>>>>>> tors-to-shut-down-internet-in-bamenda-buea-regions/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>> Mafor edwan >>>>>>>> Vice President #2 >>>>>>>> ISOC Cameroon >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From remmyn at gmail.com Sat Jan 28 12:19:11 2017 From: remmyn at gmail.com (Remmy Nweke) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2017 18:19:11 +0100 Subject: [governance] Internet Connection officially Severed in Anglophone Cameroon Pleaase help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Forwarding this concern/petition to ECOWAS chair, Ellen Johnson and ECOWAS headquarters for now. AU also should be ideal but locked in Commissioners election. Just a thought and the situation should be condemned by all well meaning people. On Jan 28, 2017 3:03 PM, "Nyangkwe Agien Aaron" wrote: Dear All It has been roughly a month that the people of the anglophone regions (formerly Southern Cameroons) of Cameroon have had internet cut off. The minister of Post and Telecommunication states that it was for security reasons. MTN the operator that supplys internet in the zone stated that they were under contractual obligations to cut internet from the area. The situation is causing some economic and human rights havoc One should recall that the entire anglophone region is currently on a school strike action and ghost towns untill the government ascribes to the demand of a two states federation, reinstate the anglosaxone system of education that has been sytematically destroyed and diluted into the french system (Cameroun is a bilingual country) and its justice sytem. It was vey common to find a francophone teacher lecturing anglophone students physics in pidgin or you find francophone Magistrates handing litigations in anglophone territory in french. When lawyer organized a peaceful march against this, they were severely beaten wounded and their robes torn. Students of the University of Buea were tortured and some raped. Leaders of the Consortium of Anglophone Civil societies organizations that handled negociations with government to look into the issues ahve been arrested and are currently court-marshalled on counts of terrorism etc. More to that a Supreme Court Attorney General (Paul Ayah Abine) was arrested including an appeal Court Magistrate wre currently under detention for voicing their concern over the situation in Anglophone Cameroon I cannot make a call from my phone either What can IG Caucaus do in such a horrible situation -- Aaron Agien NYANGKWE Journalist-Outcome Mapper P.O.Box 5213 Douala-Cameroon Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nyangkweagien at gmail.com Sat Jan 28 15:43:59 2017 From: nyangkweagien at gmail.com (Nyangkwe Agien Aaron) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2017 12:43:59 -0800 Subject: [governance] Fwd: La Republique du Cameroun goes After More Lecturers. Storms Residences at 3.00 am in the Night to Abduct More Lecturers to Yaounde In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Martin Tumasang Date: Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 4:00 AM Subject: La Republique du Cameroun goes After More Lecturers. Storms Residences at 3.00 am in the Night to Abduct More Lecturers to Yaounde To: "ambasbay at googlegroups.com" Mark Bareta · 42 mins · This morning as early as 3 am, security forces surrounded the house of Prof. James Abangma. He escaped from them. They went ahead looking for Dr. Sango to no avail. La Republique should know by now that harassing teachers every now and then will not take students to school. The people from West Cameroon have decided: There shall be no school and ghost towns will continue every week Monday and Tuesday. La Republique should know that no threats will deter the people from West Cameroon to fall back. They may want to arrest all over 8 million Southern Cameroonians. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nyangkweagien at gmail.com Sat Jan 28 19:11:00 2017 From: nyangkweagien at gmail.com (Nyangkwe Agien Aaron) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2017 16:11:00 -0800 Subject: [governance] Fwd: How Cameroon pressured mobile operators to shut down the internet and stifle dissent In-Reply-To: <2000370680.909535.1485393494487@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2000370680.909535.1485393494487.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2000370680.909535.1485393494487@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: 'Pa Fru Ndeh' via ambasbay Date: Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 5:18 PM Subject: How Cameroon pressured mobile operators to shut down the internet and stifle dissent To: Cameroon Politics , Njong Cultural Group How Cameroon pressured mobile operators to shut down the internet and stifle dissent How Cameroon pressured mobile operators to shut down the internet and stifl... By Abdi Latif Dahir For over a week now, the northwest and southwest regions of Cameroon have not had any access to the internet. Africa OBSESSIONS OUR PICKS LATEST POPULAR FLICK THE SWITCHHow Cameroon pressured mobile operators to shut down the internet and stifle dissent[image: Cameroonian police stand near a national flag during a mass led by Pope Benedict XVI at Amadou Ahidjo stadium in Yaounde] One flag. Two countries? (Reuters/Alessandro Bianchi) SHARE WRITTEN BYAbdi Latif Dahir OBSESSIONThe Next Billion January 24, 2017 Quartz Africa For over a week now, the northwest and southwest regions of Cameroon have not had any access to the internet. But details surrounding the internet shutdown in the English-speaking regions of the country continue to emerge slowly, showing a government intent on controlling access, operators pressured to cut connections, and observers worried about censorship and surveillance. The internet outage and subsequent block marked the culmination of months of protests against the dominance of French-language use in the bilingual country. The demonstrations reached a new peak in early January when protestors stayed at home to strike against government marginalization. On Jan. 17, after two days of riots and stay-away by teachers and lawyers, Akamai, the US-based internet content delivery company reported sharp drops in internet connectivity in the central African country. View image on Twitter [image: View image on Twitter] Follow Dyn Research @DynResearch Large outage in #Cameroon as reports suggest govt-directed blackout following political arrestshttps:// twitter.com/EricAcha1/status/821473982360809472 … 5:36 PM - 17 Jan 2017 - - 8383 Retweets - 2020 likes At the time, mobile phone companies didn’t issue any official statements about the internet cutoff. But new audio recordings and letters shared by advocacy groups like Internet Sans Frontières point to operators who were worried their licenses would be withdrawn if they didn’t comply with government orders to shut the internet. In a recorded phone conversation , which is alleged to be a senior MTN executive says the company received written instruction from the government to suspend internet connectivity as part of their license conditions particularly when there’s a national security concern. A widely-circulated letter online from the director of the country’s national telecommunications company, CAMTEL, also seems to confirm some of the concerns from the operators. In the letter to the minister for post and telecommunications, authorities at CAMTEL say they took measures on Jan. 17 and 18 to “coercively enforce your mentioned instructions” to suspend internet services “in certain sensitive regions.” View image on Twitter [image: View image on Twitter] Follow Bergeline DOMOU @Dbergeline Quand la souveraineté du Cameroun tient a la suspension d'Internet par l'État..en y forçant les opérateurs privés #FreeFreedom #FreeCameroon 8:28 AM - 21 Jan 2017 - - 7070 Retweets - 1313 likes “This is unacceptable,” says Julie Owono, head of the Africa desk at like Internet Sans Frontières and a Cameroonian herself. “No operator should be punished or threatened because it respects the UN guiding principle on business and human rights.” This trend in internet blocks, she said, “shows that more than ever, the fight against internet shutdown is a matter of human rights, which concerns citizens, civil society organizations, and business companies.” Prior to the shutdown, the government had also used telecom companies to send text messages to subscribers warning them of using social media to spread rumors and false news. (In Nov. 2015, the speaker of the assembly called social media “a new form of terrorism.”) After facing criticism online for sending the messages, operators like MTN responded by saying they sometimes had “to carry messages on their networks intended for the general public” given that it came from their principal regulator, the ministry. View image on Twitter [image: View image on Twitter] Follow MTN CAMEROON ✔@MTNCameroon @MTNCameroon does not engage in activities that go contrary to the corporate values of the MTNGroup and our license & concession obligations 11:00 AM - 15 Jan 2017 - - 2424 Retweets - 2323 likes Cameroonian authorities were also able to shut down the internet because the government-owned CAMTEL operates the fiber optic backbone that provides internet to the country. Owono says the government was able to shut down the internet to specific regions by disconnecting them from the national or global area network using third party software . “This means that the government ordered internet service providers to change the routing tables or to cut off the routers with the help of a software,” Owono says. “Or they can do [the shutdown] with a hardware, by turning off machines or pulling out cables.” *Sign up for the Quartz Africa Weekly Brief — the most important and interesting news from across the continent, in your inbox.* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ambasbay" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ambasbay+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Aaron Agien NYANGKWE P.O.Box 5213 Douala-Cameroon Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From kichango at gmail.com Sun Jan 29 12:57:51 2017 From: kichango at gmail.com (Mawaki Chango) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 17:57:51 +0000 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Please Cameroon did not shut down the Internet !!! In-Reply-To: References: <4B4986C9-C64C-4F29-92FB-2A16DBF968A5@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks all trying to report out of Cameroon. Like others, I was struck by the implications from Janvier's reporting, or rather his attempt at a "mise au point" which completely missed the mark, I'm sorry. Government is blocking Internet access only in 2 regions out of 8, so the situation is not that bad as the whole Cameroon being shutdown and we should chill? Oh, and money remittance operations to those 2 regions are also suspended, but not a big deal really? And you say that's done by the government for the sake of the whole population in those 2 regions? How's that? We just need to swallow that assertion made by you or the government and keep moving, nothing to see here? Interesting enough, the other 6 regions don't need that security and safety which is supposed to be found in shutting down the Internet (do you really think if there was a real terrorism threat from a section of the population accessing the Internet, that threat will go away by maintaining access only for their neighbors?) It's all in the (government) motivation, isn't it? If one cannot question the actual government's motivation in taking such extreme measures then it's going to be hard to come to a consensus on lasting peaceful solutions. I myself was born francophone and still a national of the same African francophone country of birth, and I can relate to that notion of "pleins pouvoirs"-- not to say "pouvoir absolu"-- found in some of our countries, which Joash was referring to. But I would urge ISOC Cameroon to try to relate also to the global culture of individual rights, particularly in the age of the Internet. Then whatever you'll be able to accept as the right of any Cameroonian, should be the right of all Cameroonians without distinction of language, ethnicity, religion, political views or location, etc. And, addressing the government here, I personally can't even begin to understand what is so difficult to understand in the notion that being a bilingual country is an asset, an advantage rather than a threat or drawback. So yes, we get it, not the whole of Cameroon is cut off from the Internet. But no, that doesn't make it any more acceptable that "only" a couple of regions are targeted by what seems like a punishment for a "crime de lèse majesté". Now the question on our table here is what we, global civil society coalitions, can do about a situation like this. I recall working for a short while at APC on those universal periodic reviews (hope I'm not messing up with that heavily acronym based terminology) at the UN Human Rights Council, and Cameroon was up for review at some point. Has any progress been made since? Any other course of action to look into? Thanks, Mawaki On Jan 28, 2017 4:37 PM, "Mwendwa Kivuva" wrote: It is quite unfortunate the situation in Cameroon, especially how people argue out human rights issues when the pinching shoe is on the neighbors leg, when their "enemy", imagined or real, is being persecuted. ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh On 28 January 2017 at 18:19, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron wrote: > Dear All > > I am right here in Douala Cameroun. And when I read Janvier, I will want > many people to understand one thing. Mister Janvier is francophone. To many > francophones, rights belong to authorities and not peoples . People must > fear not respect authorities because the said authorities have all powers > (they call it in french (plein pouvoirs) to do and undo on every citizen. > > To him, a Sous Prefet can ask for internet to be suspended in some part of > Cameroon, he is in his right as an authority. Currently, a Supreme Court > Atorney General, Mr Paul Ayah Abine is arrested and is in detention without > due process. The same is the case another Magistrate in Buea who was > arrested and ferried to Yaounde a day ago. Their crime; for supporting the > anglophone call for a federation. > > To the likes of Janvier, it is the Government that gives liberty (C'est le > gouvernement qui donne la liberté in French) > > The civilized world must act against such egregious obscurantism > > Agien Nyangkwe > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Evelyn Namara > wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> As a person who has been on the side of the shutdown, it is not right and >> justifiable to shutdown the Internet, even for a few regions. >> Mr. Janvier, your comments in this email hit me so hard. As a person who >> has some level of authority, you should be concerned and fight for all >> rights of all citizens. >> >> The 6 million plus people who make up the 2 regions that are deprived of >> the Internet also matter. Everyone matters, and like the Internet Society >> always says "The Internet is for everybody". >> >> Let's all fight and make leaders accountable. >> >> I stand with the people of Cameroun. >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Joash Moitui >> wrote: >> >>> Thank you all. >>> >>> This is a vital interesting topic. Having lived in Cameroon for 3 years, >>> I would say that the shutdown in these two region is no different from >>> shutdowns witnessed in Uganda and Gambia for instance. It is simply the >>> political elite using their political influence to prevent the human rights >>> violations calling for federation in these areas. The two areas made up of >>> Anglophones, who have been marginalized largely because of their language >>> and their calls for federation have been met by internet shutdown and full >>> force of security agents. It is this that the Cameroon government does not >>> want to be easily distributed within the social media. >>> >>> Joash >>> >>> On 27 Jan 2017, at 10:56, Nonhlanhla Chanza >>> wrote: >>> >>> I still weep blood for those two regions. I have never been convinced by >>> the argument that there might be circumstances that justifies a shutdown. >>> So many places in turmoil and war in the world but people have access still >>> to the Internet. >>> On 26 Jan 2017 17:59, "Janvier NGNOULAYE" wrote: >>> >>>> Hi to all, >>>> It seems to me that the problem of access to Internet in Cameroon is >>>> very much amplified here on the Net. There are 10 regions in Cameroon, the >>>> problem of access to the Internet is only concerning 2 Regions. These 2 >>>> regions actually has some political or social crisis. The government and >>>> other stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for suitable solutions. >>>> Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut these two regions of Internet >>>> access and Western Union money transfer services, for the sake of the >>>> entire population of these 2 regions. >>>> Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 regions. I'm sending >>>> this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. >>>> So the situation is not a disaster as some seem to publish on the Net. >>>> The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the government and the other >>>> stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even if it involves a >>>> temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union services. >>>> >>>> ISOC Cameroon Chapter >>>> President >>>> >>>> 2017-01-26 15:45 GMT+01:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro : >>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>> Indeed, this is a terrible situation, which can happen in any country, >>>>> which is why everyone should take action. >>>>> I'd think bringing in ISOC and other organizations will help deepen >>>>> these efforts. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Deji Bryce Olukotun < >>>>> deji at accessnow.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thank you, Arsène for the introduction and the summary. >>>>>> >>>>>> Judith, as Arsène explained, the #KeepitOn coalition >>>>>> (111 organizations from 51 >>>>>> countries) is pushing back against the shutdown. Our efforts are being led >>>>>> by Julie Owono from Internet Without Borders >>>>>> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> At present, we are fighting the shutdown in several ways: >>>>>> - open letter to government officials and agencies to restore access >>>>>> - media outreach >>>>>> - Tweet action at Cameroonian officials >>>>>> >>>>>> (please support!) >>>>>> - outreach to telcos operating in the country, including a statement >>>>>> from the Global Network Initiative >>>>>> (Microsoft, >>>>>> Google, Facebook, Investors, academics) >>>>>> - outreach to international officials at the UN and AU >>>>>> - coordination with local groups in Cameroon >>>>>> - coordinating with CDN's and other measurement entities >>>>>> >>>>>> We welcome any ideas or suggestions about how to get the internet >>>>>> turned back on. With each passing day, people are at increased risk of >>>>>> human rights violations and the economy is losing money. We'll reach out to >>>>>> ISOC to coordinate as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> Deji >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:44 AM, Arsène Tungali < >>>>>> arsenebaguma at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Judith, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for sharing this with us. What's going on in Cameroon is just >>>>>>> a shame. For colleagues who have never experienced Internet shutdown, >>>>>>> please understand that it is a nightmare. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On this note about Cameroon, several organizations including Access >>>>>>> Now and Internet Without Borders >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> doing a lot of advocacy and statements >>>>>>> , >>>>>>> letters have been sent to officials in Cameroon to ask them to bring back >>>>>>> the Internet. A hashtag about this has been started and you can take action >>>>>>> as well: #BringBackkOutInternet >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can learn more about the #KeepItOn >>>>>>> campaign here >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Eduard Snowden sent in a tweet >>>>>>> where he >>>>>>> said: "*This is the future of repression. If we do not fight it >>>>>>> there, it will happen here*" and I cannot agree more with him >>>>>>> because it is just going from one country to another. Over 8 countries in >>>>>>> Africa, including mine the DRC, have experienced shutdown and no one knows >>>>>>> who is next. Acces Now has reported >>>>>>> 15 Internet shutdowns across >>>>>>> the world in 2015 and 56 in 2016 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If there is any question about all the statements and campaigns, I >>>>>>> am happy to help or convey your questions since I am involved, on a >>>>>>> personal capacity, in these movements advocating and fighting Internet >>>>>>> shutdowns across Africa. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Arsene >>>>>>> >>>>>>> PS: Copied is Deji Olukotun who works on Advocacy for Access Now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------ >>>>>>> **Arsène Tungali** >>>>>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >>>>>>> *, >>>>>>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa >>>>>>> Forum * >>>>>>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> >>>>>>> GPG: 523644A0 >>>>>>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >>>>>>> >>>>>>> & Mexico >>>>>>> ) >>>>>>> - AFRISIG 2016 - >>>>>>> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >>>>>>> & Marrakech >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >>>>>>> >>>>>>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2017-01-26 5:34 GMT+02:00 Judith Hellerstein < >>>>>>> judith at jhellerstein.com>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> HI All, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just passing on a note from Mafor Edwan of ISOC Cameroon about the >>>>>>>> Cameroonian Government shut down of the Internet in his country. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am at a loss for words of yet another country that has cut off >>>>>>>> Internet Access for its citizens. Thanks to ISOC Cameroon for all their >>>>>>>> efforts to resolve this crisis, even though they have not been successful, >>>>>>>> I am glad that they have tried. I am a passionate believer in an open >>>>>>>> Internet. One that is available to all. By connecting the world, working >>>>>>>> with others, and advocating for equal access to the Internet, We can make >>>>>>>> the world a better place. >>>>>>>> Edwan hopes people can share this word about this and hopefully >>>>>>>> some one can reach the President and tell him what a bad idea this is. I >>>>>>>> told him I would share it around. Hope others can do the same >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> Judith >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO >>>>>>>> Hellerstein & Associates >>>>>>>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 >>>>>>>> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein >>>>>>>> E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com >>>>>>>> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ >>>>>>>> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] FYI- Constance's blog post about >>>>>>>> the G20 - and the updated Internet Governance timeline >>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:49:53 -0500 >>>>>>>> From: Queen Mother >>>>>>>> To: Dan York >>>>>>>> CC: ISOC Chapter Delegates >>>>>>>> , Carl Gahnberg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good evening Fellow ISOC Delegates, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I bring you sad news about the state of internet access in my home >>>>>>>> country Cameroon. >>>>>>>> I have sobbed uncontrollably for weeks as the govt of my country >>>>>>>> tortures and mimes her citizens and recently has cut off the ability to >>>>>>>> send financial support to our families through western union and has now >>>>>>>> cut off the internet. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please if you can read the articles below. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cameroon Cuts Internet in English-speaking Regions >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.voanews.com/a/cameroon-cuts-internet-in-english-s >>>>>>>> peaking-regions/3682688.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How Cameroon pressured mobile operators to shut down the internet >>>>>>>> and stifle dissent >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://qz.com/893401/cameroon-pressured-mtn-and-other-opera >>>>>>>> tors-to-shut-down-internet-in-bamenda-buea-regions/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>> Mafor edwan >>>>>>>> Vice President #2 >>>>>>>> ISOC Cameroon >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From judith at jhellerstein.com Sun Jan 29 13:57:49 2017 From: judith at jhellerstein.com (Judith Hellerstein) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 13:57:49 -0500 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Please Cameroon did not shut down the Internet !!! In-Reply-To: References: <4B4986C9-C64C-4F29-92FB-2A16DBF968A5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2C6DCBEC-7000-4ABC-B6B7-04D8DF3691BA@jhellerstein.com> Hi Mawaki, Very well said. I too was unhappy with Janvier's comment. Thanks for putting it so eloquently. I am glad to have started such a great discussion of these critical issues. It is through discussion that we can help solve problems and come up with creative solutions Best, Judith Sent from my iPad Judith at jhellerstein.com Skype ID: judithhellerstein > On Jan 29, 2017, at 1:33 PM, Poncelet Ileleji wrote: > > Well Stated Mawaki +1 , all I can add is Cameroon should try and revert the decision as soon as possible based on the principles of the "African Declaration on Internet Rights and Freedom". http://africaninternetrights.org/ > > Poncelet > >> On 29 January 2017 at 18:57, Mawaki Chango wrote: >> Thanks all trying to report out of Cameroon. >> >> Like others, I was struck by the implications from Janvier's reporting, or rather his attempt at a "mise au point" which completely missed the mark, I'm sorry. >> >> Government is blocking Internet access only in 2 regions out of 8, so the situation is not that bad as the whole Cameroon being shutdown and we should chill? >> >> Oh, and money remittance operations to those 2 regions are also suspended, but not a big deal really? >> >> And you say that's done by the government for the sake of the whole population in those 2 regions? How's that? We just need to swallow that assertion made by you or the government and keep moving, nothing to see here? >> >> Interesting enough, the other 6 regions don't need that security and safety which is supposed to be found in shutting down the Internet (do you really think if there was a real terrorism threat from a section of the population accessing the Internet, that threat will go away by maintaining access only for their neighbors?) It's all in the (government) motivation, isn't it? If one cannot question the actual government's motivation in taking such extreme measures then it's going to be hard to come to a consensus on lasting peaceful solutions. >> >> I myself was born francophone and still a national of the same African francophone country of birth, and I can relate to that notion of "pleins pouvoirs"-- not to say "pouvoir absolu"-- found in some of our countries, which Joash was referring to. But I would urge ISOC Cameroon to try to relate also to the global culture of individual rights, particularly in the age of the Internet. Then whatever you'll be able to accept as the right of any Cameroonian, should be the right of all Cameroonians without distinction of language, ethnicity, religion, political views or location, etc. >> >> And, addressing the government here, I personally can't even begin to understand what is so difficult to understand in the notion that being a bilingual country is an asset, an advantage rather than a threat or drawback. >> >> So yes, we get it, not the whole of Cameroon is cut off from the Internet. But no, that doesn't make it any more acceptable that "only" a couple of regions are targeted by what seems like a punishment for a "crime de lèse majesté". >> >> Now the question on our table here is what we, global civil society coalitions, can do about a situation like this. I recall working for a short while at APC on those universal periodic reviews (hope I'm not messing up with that heavily acronym based terminology) at the UN Human Rights Council, and Cameroon was up for review at some point. Has any progress been made since? Any other course of action to look into? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Mawaki >> >> >> On Jan 28, 2017 4:37 PM, "Mwendwa Kivuva" wrote: >> It is quite unfortunate the situation in Cameroon, especially how people argue out human rights issues when the pinching shoe is on the neighbors leg, when their "enemy", imagined or real, is being persecuted. >> >> ______________________ >> Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya >> twitter.com/lordmwesh >> >> >> >>> On 28 January 2017 at 18:19, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron wrote: >>> Dear All >>> >>> I am right here in Douala Cameroun. And when I read Janvier, I will want many people to understand one thing. Mister Janvier is francophone. To many francophones, rights belong to authorities and not peoples . People must fear not respect authorities because the said authorities have all powers (they call it in french (plein pouvoirs) to do and undo on every citizen. >>> >>> To him, a Sous Prefet can ask for internet to be suspended in some part of Cameroon, he is in his right as an authority. Currently, a Supreme Court Atorney General, Mr Paul Ayah Abine is arrested and is in detention without due process. The same is the case another Magistrate in Buea who was arrested and ferried to Yaounde a day ago. Their crime; for supporting the anglophone call for a federation. >>> >>> To the likes of Janvier, it is the Government that gives liberty (C'est le gouvernement qui donne la liberté in French) >>> >>> The civilized world must act against such egregious obscurantism >>> >>> Agien Nyangkwe >>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Evelyn Namara wrote: >>>> Dear all, >>>> >>>> As a person who has been on the side of the shutdown, it is not right and justifiable to shutdown the Internet, even for a few regions. >>>> Mr. Janvier, your comments in this email hit me so hard. As a person who has some level of authority, you should be concerned and fight for all >>>> rights of all citizens. >>>> >>>> The 6 million plus people who make up the 2 regions that are deprived of the Internet also matter. Everyone matters, and like the Internet Society always says "The Internet is for everybody". >>>> >>>> Let's all fight and make leaders accountable. >>>> >>>> I stand with the people of Cameroun. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Joash Moitui wrote: >>>>> Thank you all. >>>>> >>>>> This is a vital interesting topic. Having lived in Cameroon for 3 years, I would say that the shutdown in these two region is no different from shutdowns witnessed in Uganda and Gambia for instance. It is simply the political elite using their political influence to prevent the human rights violations calling for federation in these areas. The two areas made up of Anglophones, who have been marginalized largely because of their language and their calls for federation have been met by internet shutdown and full force of security agents. It is this that the Cameroon government does not want to be easily distributed within the social media. >>>>> >>>>> Joash >>>>> >>>>>> On 27 Jan 2017, at 10:56, Nonhlanhla Chanza wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I still weep blood for those two regions. I have never been convinced by the argument that there might be circumstances that justifies a shutdown. So many places in turmoil and war in the world but people have access still to the Internet. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 26 Jan 2017 17:59, "Janvier NGNOULAYE" wrote: >>>>>>> Hi to all, >>>>>>> It seems to me that the problem of access to Internet in Cameroon is very much amplified here on the Net. There are 10 regions in Cameroon, the problem of access to the Internet is only concerning 2 Regions. These 2 regions actually has some political or social crisis. The government and other stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for suitable solutions. Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut these two regions of Internet access and Western Union money transfer services, for the sake of the entire population of these 2 regions. >>>>>>> Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 regions. I'm sending this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. >>>>>>> So the situation is not a disaster as some seem to publish on the Net. The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the government and the other stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even if it involves a temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union services. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ISOC Cameroon Chapter >>>>>>> President >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2017-01-26 15:45 GMT+01:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro : >>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Indeed, this is a terrible situation, which can happen in any country, which is why everyone should take action. >>>>>>>> I'd think bringing in ISOC and other organizations will help deepen these efforts. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Deji Bryce Olukotun wrote: >>>>>>>>> Thank you, Arsène for the introduction and the summary. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Judith, as Arsène explained, the #KeepitOn coalition (111 organizations from 51 countries) is pushing back against the shutdown. Our efforts are being led by Julie Owono from Internet Without Borders. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> At present, we are fighting the shutdown in several ways: >>>>>>>>> - open letter to government officials and agencies to restore access >>>>>>>>> - media outreach >>>>>>>>> - Tweet action at Cameroonian officials (please support!) >>>>>>>>> - outreach to telcos operating in the country, including a statement from the Global Network Initiative (Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Investors, academics) >>>>>>>>> - outreach to international officials at the UN and AU >>>>>>>>> - coordination with local groups in Cameroon >>>>>>>>> - coordinating with CDN's and other measurement entities >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We welcome any ideas or suggestions about how to get the internet turned back on. With each passing day, people are at increased risk of human rights violations and the economy is losing money. We'll reach out to ISOC to coordinate as well. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>> Deji >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:44 AM, Arsène Tungali wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Hi Judith, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for sharing this with us. What's going on in Cameroon is just a shame. For colleagues who have never experienced Internet shutdown, please understand that it is a nightmare. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On this note about Cameroon, several organizations including Access Now and Internet Without Borders are doing a lot of advocacy and statements, letters have been sent to officials in Cameroon to ask them to bring back the Internet. A hashtag about this has been started and you can take action as well: #BringBackkOutInternet. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You can learn more about the #KeepItOn campaign here. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Eduard Snowden sent in a tweet where he said: "This is the future of repression. If we do not fight it there, it will happen here" and I cannot agree more with him because it is just going from one country to another. Over 8 countries in Africa, including mine the DRC, have experienced shutdown and no one knows who is next. Acces Now has reported 15 Internet shutdowns across the world in 2015 and 56 in 2016 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If there is any question about all the statements and campaigns, I am happy to help or convey your questions since I am involved, on a personal capacity, in these movements advocating and fighting Internet shutdowns across Africa. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> Arsene >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> PS: Copied is Deji Olukotun who works on Advocacy for Access Now. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> *Arsène Tungali* >>>>>>>>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, Rudi international, >>>>>>>>>> CEO, Smart Services Sarl, Mabingwa Forum >>>>>>>>>> Tel: +243 993810967 >>>>>>>>>> GPG: 523644A0 >>>>>>>>>> Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico) - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius) - IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2017-01-26 5:34 GMT+02:00 Judith Hellerstein : >>>>>>>>>>> HI All, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Just passing on a note from Mafor Edwan of ISOC Cameroon about the Cameroonian Government shut down of the Internet in his country. >>>>>>>>>>> I am at a loss for words of yet another country that has cut off Internet Access for its citizens. Thanks to ISOC Cameroon for all their efforts to resolve this crisis, even though they have not been successful, I am glad that they have tried. I am a passionate believer in an open Internet. One that is available to all. By connecting the world, working with others, and advocating for equal access to the Internet, We can make the world a better place. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Edwan hopes people can share this word about this and hopefully some one can reach the President and tell him what a bad idea this is. I told him I would share it around. Hope others can do the same >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>>> Judith >>>>>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO >>>>>>>>>>> Hellerstein & Associates >>>>>>>>>>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 >>>>>>>>>>> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein >>>>>>>>>>> E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com >>>>>>>>>>> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ >>>>>>>>>>> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] FYI- Constance's blog post about the G20 - and the updated Internet Governance timeline >>>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:49:53 -0500 >>>>>>>>>>> From: Queen Mother >>>>>>>>>>> To: Dan York >>>>>>>>>>> CC: ISOC Chapter Delegates , Carl Gahnberg >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Good evening Fellow ISOC Delegates, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I bring you sad news about the state of internet access in my home country Cameroon. >>>>>>>>>>> I have sobbed uncontrollably for weeks as the govt of my country tortures and mimes her citizens and recently has cut off the ability to send financial support to our families through western union and has now cut off the internet. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Please if you can read the articles below. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cameroon Cuts Internet in English-speaking Regions >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.voanews.com/a/cameroon-cuts-internet-in-english-speaking-regions/3682688.html >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> How Cameroon pressured mobile operators to shut down the internet and stifle dissent >>>>>>>>>>> https://qz.com/893401/cameroon-pressured-mtn-and-other-operators-to-shut-down-internet-in-bamenda-buea-regions/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>> Mafor edwan >>>>>>>>>>> Vice President #2 >>>>>>>>>>> ISOC Cameroon >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jlfullsack at orange.fr Sun Jan 29 16:33:26 2017 From: jlfullsack at orange.fr (Jean-Louis FULLSACK) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 22:33:26 +0100 (CET) Subject: [governance] Internet Connection officially Severed in Anglophone Cameroon Pleaase help Message-ID: <72824449.18507.1485725606590.JavaMail.www@wwinf1g01> Dear ALL   Of course, ECOWAS should be informed about these "grey practices" in Cameroun. But Cameroun is part of de Regional Economic Community (REC) of Central Africa which is actuelly involved in the case. Problem : the CAEC -if there is one- is much less active/reactive ...   Best   Jean-Louis Fullsack           > Message du 28/01/17 18:20 > De : "Remmy Nweke" > A : "Nyangkwe Agien Aaron" , governance at lists.igcaucus.org > Copie à : > Objet : Re: [governance] Internet Connection officially Severed in Anglophone Cameroon Pleaase help > > Forwarding this concern/petition to ECOWAS chair, Ellen Johnson and ECOWAS headquarters for now. AU also should be ideal but locked in Commissioners election. Just a thought and the situation should be condemned by all well meaning people. > On Jan 28, 2017 3:03 PM, "Nyangkwe Agien Aaron" wrote: Dear All > It has been roughly a month that the people of the anglophone regions (formerly Southern Cameroons) of Cameroon have had internet cut off. The minister of Post and Telecommunication states that it was for security reasons. MTN the operator that supplys internet in the zone stated that they were under contractual obligations to cut internet from the area. The situation is causing some economic and human rights havoc > One should recall that the entire anglophone region is currently on a school strike action and ghost towns untill the government ascribes to the demand of a two states federation, reinstate the anglosaxone system of education that has been sytematically destroyed and diluted into the french system (Cameroun is a bilingual country) and its justice sytem. > It was vey common to find a francophone teacher lecturing anglophone students physics in pidgin or you find francophone Magistrates handing litigations in anglophone territory in french. When lawyer organized a peaceful march against this, they were severely beaten wounded and their robes torn. Students of the University of Buea were tortured and some raped. > Leaders of the Consortium of Anglophone Civil societies organizations that handled negociations with  government to look into the issues ahve been arrested and are currently court-marshalled on counts of terrorism etc. More to that a Supreme Court Attorney General (Paul Ayah Abine) was arrested including an appeal Court Magistrate wre currently under detention for voicing their concern over the situation in Anglophone Cameroon > I cannot make a call from my phone either  > What can IG Caucaus do in such a horrible situation > -- > Aaron Agien NYANGKWE Journalist-Outcome Mapper > P.O.Box 5213 > Douala-Cameroon > Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >      governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >      http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >      http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >      http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list:      governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit:      http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see:      http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:      http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jlfullsack at orange.fr Sun Jan 29 16:45:33 2017 From: jlfullsack at orange.fr (Jean-Louis FULLSACK) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 22:45:33 +0100 (CET) Subject: [governance] Internet Connection officially Severed in Anglophone Cameroon Pleaase help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <463297673.18697.1485726333239.JavaMail.www@wwinf1g01> Dear Agien   For me is it very unclear if the governemental Internet black-out and the other biased decisions of national authorities have their origin in francophony. Since Cameroun is the N°1 in corruption and bribery in Africa (following Transparency International) there may be -at least- a conjunction of both in the case we are discussing about.   Best refards   JL Fullsack       > Message du 28/01/17 15:04 > De : "Nyangkwe Agien Aaron" > A : "Internet Governance" > Copie à : > Objet : [governance] Internet Connection officially Severed in Anglophone Cameroon Pleaase help > > Dear All > It has been roughly a month that the people of the anglophone regions (formerly Southern Cameroons) of Cameroon have had internet cut off. The minister of Post and Telecommunication states that it was for security reasons. MTN the operator that supplys internet in the zone stated that they were under contractual obligations to cut internet from the area. The situation is causing some economic and human rights havoc > One should recall that the entire anglophone region is currently on a school strike action and ghost towns untill the government ascribes to the demand of a two states federation, reinstate the anglosaxone system of education that has been sytematically destroyed and diluted into the french system (Cameroun is a bilingual country) and its justice sytem. > It was vey common to find a francophone teacher lecturing anglophone students physics in pidgin or you find francophone Magistrates handing litigations in anglophone territory in french. When lawyer organized a peaceful march against this, they were severely beaten wounded and their robes torn. Students of the University of Buea were tortured and some raped. > Leaders of the Consortium of Anglophone Civil societies organizations that handled negociations with  government to look into the issues ahve been arrested and are currently court-marshalled on counts of terrorism etc. More to that a Supreme Court Attorney General (Paul Ayah Abine) was arrested including an appeal Court Magistrate wre currently under detention for voicing their concern over the situation in Anglophone Cameroon > I cannot make a call from my phone either  > What can IG Caucaus do in such a horrible situation > -- > Aaron Agien NYANGKWE Journalist-Outcome Mapper > P.O.Box 5213 > Douala-Cameroon > Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list:      governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit:      http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see:      http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:      http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nb at bollow.ch Sun Jan 29 17:42:50 2017 From: nb at bollow.ch (Norbert Bollow) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 23:42:50 +0100 Subject: [governance] Proposal for IGC to formally respond to "Please Cameroon did not shut down the Internet !!!" In-Reply-To: References: <4B4986C9-C64C-4F29-92FB-2A16DBF968A5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20170129234250.0148a4d5@quill> (Cc list trimmed) Being fully in agreement with the points that have been made very eloquently in regard to this issue by multiple people including Milton and Mawaki, and being apalled by the stance which the current president of ISOC Cameroon Chapter seems to have taken, I wonder whether it might make sense for IGC to issue a statement in the form of a letter to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter, in which we would urge the ISOC Cameroon Chapter to adopt a clear stance that regional Internet shutdowns are not acceptable in regard to any region and not justifiable in any way. Greetings, Norbert On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 17:57:51 +0000 Mawaki Chango wrote: > Thanks all trying to report out of Cameroon. > > Like others, I was struck by the implications from Janvier's > reporting, or rather his attempt at a "mise au point" which > completely missed the mark, I'm sorry. > > Government is blocking Internet access only in 2 regions out of 8, so > the situation is not that bad as the whole Cameroon being shutdown > and we should chill? > > Oh, and money remittance operations to those 2 regions are also > suspended, but not a big deal really? > > And you say that's done by the government for the sake of the whole > population in those 2 regions? How's that? We just need to swallow > that assertion made by you or the government and keep moving, nothing > to see here? > > Interesting enough, the other 6 regions don't need that security and > safety which is supposed to be found in shutting down the Internet > (do you really think if there was a real terrorism threat from a > section of the population accessing the Internet, that threat will go > away by maintaining access only for their neighbors?) It's all in the > (government) motivation, isn't it? If one cannot question the actual > government's motivation in taking such extreme measures then it's > going to be hard to come to a consensus on lasting peaceful solutions. > > I myself was born francophone and still a national of the same African > francophone country of birth, and I can relate to that notion of > "pleins pouvoirs"-- not to say "pouvoir absolu"-- found in some of > our countries, which Joash was referring to. But I would urge ISOC > Cameroon to try to relate also to the global culture of individual > rights, particularly in the age of the Internet. Then whatever you'll > be able to accept as the right of any Cameroonian, should be the > right of all Cameroonians without distinction of language, ethnicity, > religion, political views or location, etc. > > And, addressing the government here, I personally can't even begin to > understand what is so difficult to understand in the notion that > being a bilingual country is an asset, an advantage rather than a > threat or drawback. > > So yes, we get it, not the whole of Cameroon is cut off from the > Internet. But no, that doesn't make it any more acceptable that > "only" a couple of regions are targeted by what seems like a > punishment for a "crime de lèse majesté". > > Now the question on our table here is what we, global civil society > coalitions, can do about a situation like this. I recall working for a > short while at APC on those universal periodic reviews (hope I'm not > messing up with that heavily acronym based terminology) at the UN > Human Rights Council, and Cameroon was up for review at some point. > Has any progress been made since? Any other course of action to look > into? > > Thanks, > > Mawaki > > > On Jan 28, 2017 4:37 PM, "Mwendwa Kivuva" > wrote: > > It is quite unfortunate the situation in Cameroon, especially how > people argue out human rights issues when the pinching shoe is on the > neighbors leg, when their "enemy", imagined or real, is being > persecuted. > > ______________________ > Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya > twitter.com/lordmwesh > > > > On 28 January 2017 at 18:19, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron > wrote: > > > Dear All > > > > I am right here in Douala Cameroun. And when I read Janvier, I will > > want many people to understand one thing. Mister Janvier is > > francophone. To many francophones, rights belong to authorities and > > not peoples . People must fear not respect authorities because the > > said authorities have all powers (they call it in french (plein > > pouvoirs) to do and undo on every citizen. > > > > To him, a Sous Prefet can ask for internet to be suspended in some > > part of Cameroon, he is in his right as an authority. Currently, a > > Supreme Court Atorney General, Mr Paul Ayah Abine is arrested and > > is in detention without due process. The same is the case another > > Magistrate in Buea who was arrested and ferried to Yaounde a day > > ago. Their crime; for supporting the anglophone call for a > > federation. > > > > To the likes of Janvier, it is the Government that gives liberty > > (C'est le gouvernement qui donne la liberté in French) > > > > The civilized world must act against such egregious obscurantism > > > > Agien Nyangkwe > > > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Evelyn Namara > > wrote: > > > >> Dear all, > >> > >> As a person who has been on the side of the shutdown, it is not > >> right and justifiable to shutdown the Internet, even for a few > >> regions. Mr. Janvier, your comments in this email hit me so hard. > >> As a person who has some level of authority, you should be > >> concerned and fight for all rights of all citizens. > >> > >> The 6 million plus people who make up the 2 regions that are > >> deprived of the Internet also matter. Everyone matters, and like > >> the Internet Society always says "The Internet is for everybody". > >> > >> Let's all fight and make leaders accountable. > >> > >> I stand with the people of Cameroun. > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Joash Moitui > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Thank you all. > >>> > >>> This is a vital interesting topic. Having lived in Cameroon for 3 > >>> years, I would say that the shutdown in these two region is no > >>> different from shutdowns witnessed in Uganda and Gambia for > >>> instance. It is simply the political elite using their political > >>> influence to prevent the human rights violations calling for > >>> federation in these areas. The two areas made up of Anglophones, > >>> who have been marginalized largely because of their language and > >>> their calls for federation have been met by internet shutdown and > >>> full force of security agents. It is this that the Cameroon > >>> government does not want to be easily distributed within the > >>> social media. > >>> > >>> Joash > >>> > >>> On 27 Jan 2017, at 10:56, Nonhlanhla Chanza > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> I still weep blood for those two regions. I have never been > >>> convinced by the argument that there might be circumstances that > >>> justifies a shutdown. So many places in turmoil and war in the > >>> world but people have access still to the Internet. > >>> On 26 Jan 2017 17:59, "Janvier NGNOULAYE" > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi to all, > >>>> It seems to me that the problem of access to Internet in > >>>> Cameroon is very much amplified here on the Net. There are 10 > >>>> regions in Cameroon, the problem of access to the Internet is > >>>> only concerning 2 Regions. These 2 regions actually has some > >>>> political or social crisis. The government and other > >>>> stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for suitable > >>>> solutions. Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut these > >>>> two regions of Internet access and Western Union money transfer > >>>> services, for the sake of the entire population of these 2 > >>>> regions. Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 > >>>> regions. I'm sending this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. So the > >>>> situation is not a disaster as some seem to publish on the Net. > >>>> The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the government and the other > >>>> stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even if it > >>>> involves a temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union > >>>> services. > >>>> > >>>> ISOC Cameroon Chapter > >>>> President > >>>> > >>>> 2017-01-26 15:45 GMT+01:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro > >>>> : > >>>> > >>>>> Hi > >>>>> > >>>>> Indeed, this is a terrible situation, which can happen in any > >>>>> country, which is why everyone should take action. > >>>>> I'd think bringing in ISOC and other organizations will help > >>>>> deepen these efforts. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Deji Bryce Olukotun < > >>>>> deji at accessnow.org> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Thank you, Arsène for the introduction and the summary. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Judith, as Arsène explained, the #KeepitOn coalition > >>>>>> (111 organizations from 51 > >>>>>> countries) is pushing back against the shutdown. Our efforts > >>>>>> are being led by Julie Owono from Internet Without Borders > >>>>>> > >>>>>> . > >>>>>> > >>>>>> At present, we are fighting the shutdown in several ways: > >>>>>> - open letter to government officials and agencies to restore > >>>>>> access > >>>>>> - media outreach > >>>>>> - Tweet action at Cameroonian officials > >>>>>> > >>>>>> (please support!) > >>>>>> - outreach to telcos operating in the country, including a > >>>>>> statement from the Global Network Initiative > >>>>>> > >>>>>> (Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Investors, academics) > >>>>>> - outreach to international officials at the UN and AU > >>>>>> - coordination with local groups in Cameroon > >>>>>> - coordinating with CDN's and other measurement entities > >>>>>> > >>>>>> We welcome any ideas or suggestions about how to get the > >>>>>> internet turned back on. With each passing day, people are at > >>>>>> increased risk of human rights violations and the economy is > >>>>>> losing money. We'll reach out to ISOC to coordinate as well. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Best, > >>>>>> Deji > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:44 AM, Arsène Tungali < > >>>>>> arsenebaguma at gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hi Judith, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks for sharing this with us. What's going on in Cameroon > >>>>>>> is just a shame. For colleagues who have never experienced > >>>>>>> Internet shutdown, please understand that it is a nightmare. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On this note about Cameroon, several organizations including > >>>>>>> Access Now and Internet Without Borders > >>>>>>> are > >>>>>>> doing a lot of advocacy and statements > >>>>>>> , > >>>>>>> letters have been sent to officials in Cameroon to ask them > >>>>>>> to bring back the Internet. A hashtag about this has been > >>>>>>> started and you can take action as well: > >>>>>>> #BringBackkOutInternet > >>>>>>> . > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> You can learn more about the #KeepItOn > >>>>>>> campaign here > >>>>>>> . > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Eduard Snowden sent in a tweet > >>>>>>> where > >>>>>>> he said: "*This is the future of repression. If we do not > >>>>>>> fight it there, it will happen here*" and I cannot agree more > >>>>>>> with him because it is just going from one country to > >>>>>>> another. Over 8 countries in Africa, including mine the DRC, > >>>>>>> have experienced shutdown and no one knows who is next. Acces > >>>>>>> Now has reported 15 > >>>>>>> Internet shutdowns across the world in 2015 and 56 in 2016 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> If there is any question about all the statements and > >>>>>>> campaigns, I am happy to help or convey your questions since > >>>>>>> I am involved, on a personal capacity, in these movements > >>>>>>> advocating and fighting Internet shutdowns across Africa. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>> Arsene > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> PS: Copied is Deji Olukotun who works on Advocacy for Access > >>>>>>> Now. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ------------------------ > >>>>>>> **Arsène Tungali** > >>>>>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > >>>>>>> *, > >>>>>>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, > >>>>>>> *Mabingwa Forum * > >>>>>>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> > >>>>>>> GPG: 523644A0 > >>>>>>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> & Mexico > >>>>>>> ) > >>>>>>> - AFRISIG 2016 > >>>>>>> - Blogger > >>>>>>> - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > >>>>>>> & > >>>>>>> Marrakech > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The > >>>>>>> HuffingtonPost UK > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 2017-01-26 5:34 GMT+02:00 Judith Hellerstein < > >>>>>>> judith at jhellerstein.com>: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> HI All, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Just passing on a note from Mafor Edwan of ISOC Cameroon > >>>>>>>> about the Cameroonian Government shut down of the Internet > >>>>>>>> in his country. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I am at a loss for words of yet another country that has cut > >>>>>>>> off Internet Access for its citizens. Thanks to ISOC > >>>>>>>> Cameroon for all their efforts to resolve this crisis, even > >>>>>>>> though they have not been successful, I am glad that they > >>>>>>>> have tried. I am a passionate believer in an open Internet. > >>>>>>>> One that is available to all. By connecting the world, > >>>>>>>> working with others, and advocating for equal access to the > >>>>>>>> Internet, We can make the world a better place. Edwan hopes > >>>>>>>> people can share this word about this and hopefully some one > >>>>>>>> can reach the President and tell him what a bad idea this > >>>>>>>> is. I told him I would share it around. Hope others can do > >>>>>>>> the same > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Best, > >>>>>>>> Judith > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________________ > >>>>>>>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO > >>>>>>>> Hellerstein & Associates > >>>>>>>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 > >>>>>>>> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein > >>>>>>>> E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com Website: > >>>>>>>> www.jhellerstein.com Linked In: > >>>>>>>> www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ Opening Telecom & > >>>>>>>> Technology Opportunities Worldwide > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] FYI- Constance's blog post > >>>>>>>> about the G20 - and the updated Internet Governance timeline > >>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:49:53 -0500 > >>>>>>>> From: Queen Mother > >>>>>>>> To: Dan York > >>>>>>>> CC: ISOC Chapter Delegates > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> , Carl Gahnberg > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Good evening Fellow ISOC Delegates, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I bring you sad news about the state of internet access in > >>>>>>>> my home country Cameroon. > >>>>>>>> I have sobbed uncontrollably for weeks as the govt of my > >>>>>>>> country tortures and mimes her citizens and recently has cut > >>>>>>>> off the ability to send financial support to our families > >>>>>>>> through western union and has now cut off the internet. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Please if you can read the articles below. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Cameroon Cuts Internet in English-speaking Regions > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> http://www.voanews.com/a/cameroon-cuts-internet-in-english-s > >>>>>>>> peaking-regions/3682688.html > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> How Cameroon pressured mobile operators to shut down the > >>>>>>>> internet and stifle dissent > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://qz.com/893401/cameroon-pressured-mtn-and-other-opera > >>>>>>>> tors-to-shut-down-internet-in-bamenda-buea-regions/ > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thank you. > >>>>>>>> Mafor edwan > >>>>>>>> Vice President #2 > >>>>>>>> ISOC Cameroon -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From kichango at gmail.com Sun Jan 29 17:48:34 2017 From: kichango at gmail.com (Mawaki Chango) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 22:48:34 +0000 Subject: [governance] Proposal for IGC to formally respond to "Please Cameroon did not shut down the Internet !!!" In-Reply-To: <20170129234250.0148a4d5@quill> References: <4B4986C9-C64C-4F29-92FB-2A16DBF968A5@gmail.com> <20170129234250.0148a4d5@quill> Message-ID: +1 to this proposal for a statement by IGC. Thanks mC On Jan 29, 2017 10:43 PM, "Norbert Bollow" wrote: (Cc list trimmed) Being fully in agreement with the points that have been made very eloquently in regard to this issue by multiple people including Milton and Mawaki, and being apalled by the stance which the current president of ISOC Cameroon Chapter seems to have taken, I wonder whether it might make sense for IGC to issue a statement in the form of a letter to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter, in which we would urge the ISOC Cameroon Chapter to adopt a clear stance that regional Internet shutdowns are not acceptable in regard to any region and not justifiable in any way. Greetings, Norbert On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 17:57:51 +0000 Mawaki Chango wrote: > Thanks all trying to report out of Cameroon. > > Like others, I was struck by the implications from Janvier's > reporting, or rather his attempt at a "mise au point" which > completely missed the mark, I'm sorry. > > Government is blocking Internet access only in 2 regions out of 8, so > the situation is not that bad as the whole Cameroon being shutdown > and we should chill? > > Oh, and money remittance operations to those 2 regions are also > suspended, but not a big deal really? > > And you say that's done by the government for the sake of the whole > population in those 2 regions? How's that? We just need to swallow > that assertion made by you or the government and keep moving, nothing > to see here? > > Interesting enough, the other 6 regions don't need that security and > safety which is supposed to be found in shutting down the Internet > (do you really think if there was a real terrorism threat from a > section of the population accessing the Internet, that threat will go > away by maintaining access only for their neighbors?) It's all in the > (government) motivation, isn't it? If one cannot question the actual > government's motivation in taking such extreme measures then it's > going to be hard to come to a consensus on lasting peaceful solutions. > > I myself was born francophone and still a national of the same African > francophone country of birth, and I can relate to that notion of > "pleins pouvoirs"-- not to say "pouvoir absolu"-- found in some of > our countries, which Joash was referring to. But I would urge ISOC > Cameroon to try to relate also to the global culture of individual > rights, particularly in the age of the Internet. Then whatever you'll > be able to accept as the right of any Cameroonian, should be the > right of all Cameroonians without distinction of language, ethnicity, > religion, political views or location, etc. > > And, addressing the government here, I personally can't even begin to > understand what is so difficult to understand in the notion that > being a bilingual country is an asset, an advantage rather than a > threat or drawback. > > So yes, we get it, not the whole of Cameroon is cut off from the > Internet. But no, that doesn't make it any more acceptable that > "only" a couple of regions are targeted by what seems like a > punishment for a "crime de lèse majesté". > > Now the question on our table here is what we, global civil society > coalitions, can do about a situation like this. I recall working for a > short while at APC on those universal periodic reviews (hope I'm not > messing up with that heavily acronym based terminology) at the UN > Human Rights Council, and Cameroon was up for review at some point. > Has any progress been made since? Any other course of action to look > into? > > Thanks, > > Mawaki > > > On Jan 28, 2017 4:37 PM, "Mwendwa Kivuva" > wrote: > > It is quite unfortunate the situation in Cameroon, especially how > people argue out human rights issues when the pinching shoe is on the > neighbors leg, when their "enemy", imagined or real, is being > persecuted. > > ______________________ > Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya > twitter.com/lordmwesh > > > > On 28 January 2017 at 18:19, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron > wrote: > > > Dear All > > > > I am right here in Douala Cameroun. And when I read Janvier, I will > > want many people to understand one thing. Mister Janvier is > > francophone. To many francophones, rights belong to authorities and > > not peoples . People must fear not respect authorities because the > > said authorities have all powers (they call it in french (plein > > pouvoirs) to do and undo on every citizen. > > > > To him, a Sous Prefet can ask for internet to be suspended in some > > part of Cameroon, he is in his right as an authority. Currently, a > > Supreme Court Atorney General, Mr Paul Ayah Abine is arrested and > > is in detention without due process. The same is the case another > > Magistrate in Buea who was arrested and ferried to Yaounde a day > > ago. Their crime; for supporting the anglophone call for a > > federation. > > > > To the likes of Janvier, it is the Government that gives liberty > > (C'est le gouvernement qui donne la liberté in French) > > > > The civilized world must act against such egregious obscurantism > > > > Agien Nyangkwe > > > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Evelyn Namara > > wrote: > > > >> Dear all, > >> > >> As a person who has been on the side of the shutdown, it is not > >> right and justifiable to shutdown the Internet, even for a few > >> regions. Mr. Janvier, your comments in this email hit me so hard. > >> As a person who has some level of authority, you should be > >> concerned and fight for all rights of all citizens. > >> > >> The 6 million plus people who make up the 2 regions that are > >> deprived of the Internet also matter. Everyone matters, and like > >> the Internet Society always says "The Internet is for everybody". > >> > >> Let's all fight and make leaders accountable. > >> > >> I stand with the people of Cameroun. > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Joash Moitui > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Thank you all. > >>> > >>> This is a vital interesting topic. Having lived in Cameroon for 3 > >>> years, I would say that the shutdown in these two region is no > >>> different from shutdowns witnessed in Uganda and Gambia for > >>> instance. It is simply the political elite using their political > >>> influence to prevent the human rights violations calling for > >>> federation in these areas. The two areas made up of Anglophones, > >>> who have been marginalized largely because of their language and > >>> their calls for federation have been met by internet shutdown and > >>> full force of security agents. It is this that the Cameroon > >>> government does not want to be easily distributed within the > >>> social media. > >>> > >>> Joash > >>> > >>> On 27 Jan 2017, at 10:56, Nonhlanhla Chanza > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> I still weep blood for those two regions. I have never been > >>> convinced by the argument that there might be circumstances that > >>> justifies a shutdown. So many places in turmoil and war in the > >>> world but people have access still to the Internet. > >>> On 26 Jan 2017 17:59, "Janvier NGNOULAYE" > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi to all, > >>>> It seems to me that the problem of access to Internet in > >>>> Cameroon is very much amplified here on the Net. There are 10 > >>>> regions in Cameroon, the problem of access to the Internet is > >>>> only concerning 2 Regions. These 2 regions actually has some > >>>> political or social crisis. The government and other > >>>> stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for suitable > >>>> solutions. Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut these > >>>> two regions of Internet access and Western Union money transfer > >>>> services, for the sake of the entire population of these 2 > >>>> regions. Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 > >>>> regions. I'm sending this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. So the > >>>> situation is not a disaster as some seem to publish on the Net. > >>>> The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the government and the other > >>>> stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even if it > >>>> involves a temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union > >>>> services. > >>>> > >>>> ISOC Cameroon Chapter > >>>> President > >>>> > >>>> 2017-01-26 15:45 GMT+01:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro > >>>> : > >>>> > >>>>> Hi > >>>>> > >>>>> Indeed, this is a terrible situation, which can happen in any > >>>>> country, which is why everyone should take action. > >>>>> I'd think bringing in ISOC and other organizations will help > >>>>> deepen these efforts. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Deji Bryce Olukotun < > >>>>> deji at accessnow.org> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Thank you, Arsène for the introduction and the summary. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Judith, as Arsène explained, the #KeepitOn coalition > >>>>>> (111 organizations from 51 > >>>>>> countries) is pushing back against the shutdown. Our efforts > >>>>>> are being led by Julie Owono from Internet Without Borders > >>>>>> > >>>>>> . > >>>>>> > >>>>>> At present, we are fighting the shutdown in several ways: > >>>>>> - open letter to government officials and agencies to restore > >>>>>> access > >>>>>> - media outreach > >>>>>> - Tweet action at Cameroonian officials > >>>>>> > >>>>>> (please support!) > >>>>>> - outreach to telcos operating in the country, including a > >>>>>> statement from the Global Network Initiative > >>>>>> > >>>>>> (Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Investors, academics) > >>>>>> - outreach to international officials at the UN and AU > >>>>>> - coordination with local groups in Cameroon > >>>>>> - coordinating with CDN's and other measurement entities > >>>>>> > >>>>>> We welcome any ideas or suggestions about how to get the > >>>>>> internet turned back on. With each passing day, people are at > >>>>>> increased risk of human rights violations and the economy is > >>>>>> losing money. We'll reach out to ISOC to coordinate as well. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Best, > >>>>>> Deji > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:44 AM, Arsène Tungali < > >>>>>> arsenebaguma at gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hi Judith, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks for sharing this with us. What's going on in Cameroon > >>>>>>> is just a shame. For colleagues who have never experienced > >>>>>>> Internet shutdown, please understand that it is a nightmare. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On this note about Cameroon, several organizations including > >>>>>>> Access Now and Internet Without Borders > >>>>>>> are > >>>>>>> doing a lot of advocacy and statements > >>>>>>> , > >>>>>>> letters have been sent to officials in Cameroon to ask them > >>>>>>> to bring back the Internet. A hashtag about this has been > >>>>>>> started and you can take action as well: > >>>>>>> #BringBackkOutInternet > >>>>>>> . > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> You can learn more about the #KeepItOn > >>>>>>> campaign here > >>>>>>> . > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Eduard Snowden sent in a tweet > >>>>>>> where > >>>>>>> he said: "*This is the future of repression. If we do not > >>>>>>> fight it there, it will happen here*" and I cannot agree more > >>>>>>> with him because it is just going from one country to > >>>>>>> another. Over 8 countries in Africa, including mine the DRC, > >>>>>>> have experienced shutdown and no one knows who is next. Acces > >>>>>>> Now has reported 15 > >>>>>>> Internet shutdowns across the world in 2015 and 56 in 2016 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> If there is any question about all the statements and > >>>>>>> campaigns, I am happy to help or convey your questions since > >>>>>>> I am involved, on a personal capacity, in these movements > >>>>>>> advocating and fighting Internet shutdowns across Africa. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>> Arsene > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> PS: Copied is Deji Olukotun who works on Advocacy for Access > >>>>>>> Now. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ------------------------ > >>>>>>> **Arsène Tungali** > >>>>>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > >>>>>>> *, > >>>>>>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, > >>>>>>> *Mabingwa Forum * > >>>>>>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> > >>>>>>> GPG: 523644A0 > >>>>>>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> & Mexico > >>>>>>> ) > >>>>>>> - AFRISIG 2016 > >>>>>>> - Blogger > >>>>>>> - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > >>>>>>> & > >>>>>>> Marrakech > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The > >>>>>>> HuffingtonPost UK > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 2017-01-26 5:34 GMT+02:00 Judith Hellerstein < > >>>>>>> judith at jhellerstein.com>: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> HI All, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Just passing on a note from Mafor Edwan of ISOC Cameroon > >>>>>>>> about the Cameroonian Government shut down of the Internet > >>>>>>>> in his country. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I am at a loss for words of yet another country that has cut > >>>>>>>> off Internet Access for its citizens. Thanks to ISOC > >>>>>>>> Cameroon for all their efforts to resolve this crisis, even > >>>>>>>> though they have not been successful, I am glad that they > >>>>>>>> have tried. I am a passionate believer in an open Internet. > >>>>>>>> One that is available to all. By connecting the world, > >>>>>>>> working with others, and advocating for equal access to the > >>>>>>>> Internet, We can make the world a better place. Edwan hopes > >>>>>>>> people can share this word about this and hopefully some one > >>>>>>>> can reach the President and tell him what a bad idea this > >>>>>>>> is. I told him I would share it around. Hope others can do > >>>>>>>> the same > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Best, > >>>>>>>> Judith > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________ _____________ > >>>>>>>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO > >>>>>>>> Hellerstein & Associates > >>>>>>>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 > >>>>>>>> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein > >>>>>>>> E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com Website: > >>>>>>>> www.jhellerstein.com Linked In: > >>>>>>>> www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ Opening Telecom & > >>>>>>>> Technology Opportunities Worldwide > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] FYI- Constance's blog post > >>>>>>>> about the G20 - and the updated Internet Governance timeline > >>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:49:53 -0500 > >>>>>>>> From: Queen Mother > >>>>>>>> To: Dan York > >>>>>>>> CC: ISOC Chapter Delegates > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> , Carl Gahnberg > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Good evening Fellow ISOC Delegates, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I bring you sad news about the state of internet access in > >>>>>>>> my home country Cameroon. > >>>>>>>> I have sobbed uncontrollably for weeks as the govt of my > >>>>>>>> country tortures and mimes her citizens and recently has cut > >>>>>>>> off the ability to send financial support to our families > >>>>>>>> through western union and has now cut off the internet. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Please if you can read the articles below. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Cameroon Cuts Internet in English-speaking Regions > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> http://www.voanews.com/a/cameroon-cuts-internet-in-english-s > >>>>>>>> peaking-regions/3682688.html > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> How Cameroon pressured mobile operators to shut down the > >>>>>>>> internet and stifle dissent > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://qz.com/893401/cameroon-pressured-mtn-and-other-opera > >>>>>>>> tors-to-shut-down-internet-in-bamenda-buea-regions/ > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thank you. > >>>>>>>> Mafor edwan > >>>>>>>> Vice President #2 > >>>>>>>> ISOC Cameroon ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com Sun Jan 29 17:48:35 2017 From: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:48:35 +1300 Subject: [governance] Proposal for IGC to formally respond to "Please Cameroon did not shut down the Internet !!!" In-Reply-To: <20170129234250.0148a4d5@quill> References: <4B4986C9-C64C-4F29-92FB-2A16DBF968A5@gmail.com> <20170129234250.0148a4d5@quill> Message-ID: We do not have jurisdiction or locus to speak to Cameroon's local ISOC chapter. We can if there is consensus.put out a statement though. On 30/01/2017 11:43, "Norbert Bollow" wrote: > (Cc list trimmed) > > Being fully in agreement with the points that have been made very > eloquently in regard to this issue by multiple people including > Milton and Mawaki, and being apalled by the stance which the current > president of ISOC Cameroon Chapter seems to have taken, I wonder whether > it might make sense for IGC to issue a statement in the form of a > letter to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter, in which we would urge the ISOC > Cameroon Chapter to adopt a clear stance that regional Internet > shutdowns are not acceptable in regard to any region and not justifiable > in any way. > > Greetings, > Norbert > > > On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 17:57:51 +0000 > Mawaki Chango wrote: > > > Thanks all trying to report out of Cameroon. > > > > Like others, I was struck by the implications from Janvier's > > reporting, or rather his attempt at a "mise au point" which > > completely missed the mark, I'm sorry. > > > > Government is blocking Internet access only in 2 regions out of 8, so > > the situation is not that bad as the whole Cameroon being shutdown > > and we should chill? > > > > Oh, and money remittance operations to those 2 regions are also > > suspended, but not a big deal really? > > > > And you say that's done by the government for the sake of the whole > > population in those 2 regions? How's that? We just need to swallow > > that assertion made by you or the government and keep moving, nothing > > to see here? > > > > Interesting enough, the other 6 regions don't need that security and > > safety which is supposed to be found in shutting down the Internet > > (do you really think if there was a real terrorism threat from a > > section of the population accessing the Internet, that threat will go > > away by maintaining access only for their neighbors?) It's all in the > > (government) motivation, isn't it? If one cannot question the actual > > government's motivation in taking such extreme measures then it's > > going to be hard to come to a consensus on lasting peaceful solutions. > > > > I myself was born francophone and still a national of the same African > > francophone country of birth, and I can relate to that notion of > > "pleins pouvoirs"-- not to say "pouvoir absolu"-- found in some of > > our countries, which Joash was referring to. But I would urge ISOC > > Cameroon to try to relate also to the global culture of individual > > rights, particularly in the age of the Internet. Then whatever you'll > > be able to accept as the right of any Cameroonian, should be the > > right of all Cameroonians without distinction of language, ethnicity, > > religion, political views or location, etc. > > > > And, addressing the government here, I personally can't even begin to > > understand what is so difficult to understand in the notion that > > being a bilingual country is an asset, an advantage rather than a > > threat or drawback. > > > > So yes, we get it, not the whole of Cameroon is cut off from the > > Internet. But no, that doesn't make it any more acceptable that > > "only" a couple of regions are targeted by what seems like a > > punishment for a "crime de lèse majesté". > > > > Now the question on our table here is what we, global civil society > > coalitions, can do about a situation like this. I recall working for a > > short while at APC on those universal periodic reviews (hope I'm not > > messing up with that heavily acronym based terminology) at the UN > > Human Rights Council, and Cameroon was up for review at some point. > > Has any progress been made since? Any other course of action to look > > into? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mawaki > > > > > > On Jan 28, 2017 4:37 PM, "Mwendwa Kivuva" > > wrote: > > > > It is quite unfortunate the situation in Cameroon, especially how > > people argue out human rights issues when the pinching shoe is on the > > neighbors leg, when their "enemy", imagined or real, is being > > persecuted. > > > > ______________________ > > Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya > > twitter.com/lordmwesh > > > > > > > > On 28 January 2017 at 18:19, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron > > wrote: > > > > > Dear All > > > > > > I am right here in Douala Cameroun. And when I read Janvier, I will > > > want many people to understand one thing. Mister Janvier is > > > francophone. To many francophones, rights belong to authorities and > > > not peoples . People must fear not respect authorities because the > > > said authorities have all powers (they call it in french (plein > > > pouvoirs) to do and undo on every citizen. > > > > > > To him, a Sous Prefet can ask for internet to be suspended in some > > > part of Cameroon, he is in his right as an authority. Currently, a > > > Supreme Court Atorney General, Mr Paul Ayah Abine is arrested and > > > is in detention without due process. The same is the case another > > > Magistrate in Buea who was arrested and ferried to Yaounde a day > > > ago. Their crime; for supporting the anglophone call for a > > > federation. > > > > > > To the likes of Janvier, it is the Government that gives liberty > > > (C'est le gouvernement qui donne la liberté in French) > > > > > > The civilized world must act against such egregious obscurantism > > > > > > Agien Nyangkwe > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Evelyn Namara > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Dear all, > > >> > > >> As a person who has been on the side of the shutdown, it is not > > >> right and justifiable to shutdown the Internet, even for a few > > >> regions. Mr. Janvier, your comments in this email hit me so hard. > > >> As a person who has some level of authority, you should be > > >> concerned and fight for all rights of all citizens. > > >> > > >> The 6 million plus people who make up the 2 regions that are > > >> deprived of the Internet also matter. Everyone matters, and like > > >> the Internet Society always says "The Internet is for everybody". > > >> > > >> Let's all fight and make leaders accountable. > > >> > > >> I stand with the people of Cameroun. > > >> > > >> > > >> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Joash Moitui > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Thank you all. > > >>> > > >>> This is a vital interesting topic. Having lived in Cameroon for 3 > > >>> years, I would say that the shutdown in these two region is no > > >>> different from shutdowns witnessed in Uganda and Gambia for > > >>> instance. It is simply the political elite using their political > > >>> influence to prevent the human rights violations calling for > > >>> federation in these areas. The two areas made up of Anglophones, > > >>> who have been marginalized largely because of their language and > > >>> their calls for federation have been met by internet shutdown and > > >>> full force of security agents. It is this that the Cameroon > > >>> government does not want to be easily distributed within the > > >>> social media. > > >>> > > >>> Joash > > >>> > > >>> On 27 Jan 2017, at 10:56, Nonhlanhla Chanza > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> I still weep blood for those two regions. I have never been > > >>> convinced by the argument that there might be circumstances that > > >>> justifies a shutdown. So many places in turmoil and war in the > > >>> world but people have access still to the Internet. > > >>> On 26 Jan 2017 17:59, "Janvier NGNOULAYE" > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Hi to all, > > >>>> It seems to me that the problem of access to Internet in > > >>>> Cameroon is very much amplified here on the Net. There are 10 > > >>>> regions in Cameroon, the problem of access to the Internet is > > >>>> only concerning 2 Regions. These 2 regions actually has some > > >>>> political or social crisis. The government and other > > >>>> stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for suitable > > >>>> solutions. Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut these > > >>>> two regions of Internet access and Western Union money transfer > > >>>> services, for the sake of the entire population of these 2 > > >>>> regions. Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 > > >>>> regions. I'm sending this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. So the > > >>>> situation is not a disaster as some seem to publish on the Net. > > >>>> The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the government and the other > > >>>> stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even if it > > >>>> involves a temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union > > >>>> services. > > >>>> > > >>>> ISOC Cameroon Chapter > > >>>> President > > >>>> > > >>>> 2017-01-26 15:45 GMT+01:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro > > >>>> : > > >>>> > > >>>>> Hi > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Indeed, this is a terrible situation, which can happen in any > > >>>>> country, which is why everyone should take action. > > >>>>> I'd think bringing in ISOC and other organizations will help > > >>>>> deepen these efforts. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Deji Bryce Olukotun < > > >>>>> deji at accessnow.org> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> Thank you, Arsène for the introduction and the summary. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Judith, as Arsène explained, the #KeepitOn coalition > > >>>>>> (111 organizations from 51 > > >>>>>> countries) is pushing back against the shutdown. Our efforts > > >>>>>> are being led by Julie Owono from Internet Without Borders > > >>>>>> regional-internet-blackout-in-cameroon/> > > >>>>>> . > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> At present, we are fighting the shutdown in several ways: > > >>>>>> - open letter to government officials and agencies to restore > > >>>>>> access > > >>>>>> - media outreach > > >>>>>> - Tweet action at Cameroonian officials > > >>>>>> 1921&ea.campaign.id=62870&ea.tracking.id=tile> > > >>>>>> (please support!) > > >>>>>> - outreach to telcos operating in the country, including a > > >>>>>> statement from the Global Network Initiative > > >>>>>> restrictions-internet-access-cameroon> > > >>>>>> (Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Investors, academics) > > >>>>>> - outreach to international officials at the UN and AU > > >>>>>> - coordination with local groups in Cameroon > > >>>>>> - coordinating with CDN's and other measurement entities > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> We welcome any ideas or suggestions about how to get the > > >>>>>> internet turned back on. With each passing day, people are at > > >>>>>> increased risk of human rights violations and the economy is > > >>>>>> losing money. We'll reach out to ISOC to coordinate as well. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Best, > > >>>>>> Deji > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:44 AM, Arsène Tungali < > > >>>>>> arsenebaguma at gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Hi Judith, > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Thanks for sharing this with us. What's going on in Cameroon > > >>>>>>> is just a shame. For colleagues who have never experienced > > >>>>>>> Internet shutdown, please understand that it is a nightmare. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On this note about Cameroon, several organizations including > > >>>>>>> Access Now and Internet Without Borders > > >>>>>>> regional-internet-blackout-in-cameroon/>are > > >>>>>>> doing a lot of advocacy and statements > > >>>>>>> 1921&ea.campaign.id=62870&ea.tracking.id=Email&ea.url.id=836199>, > > >>>>>>> letters have been sent to officials in Cameroon to ask them > > >>>>>>> to bring back the Internet. A hashtag about this has been > > >>>>>>> started and you can take action as well: > > >>>>>>> #BringBackkOutInternet > > >>>>>>> . > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> You can learn more about the #KeepItOn > > >>>>>>> campaign here > > >>>>>>> . > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Eduard Snowden sent in a tweet > > >>>>>>> where > > >>>>>>> he said: "*This is the future of repression. If we do not > > >>>>>>> fight it there, it will happen here*" and I cannot agree more > > >>>>>>> with him because it is just going from one country to > > >>>>>>> another. Over 8 countries in Africa, including mine the DRC, > > >>>>>>> have experienced shutdown and no one knows who is next. Acces > > >>>>>>> Now has reported 15 > > >>>>>>> Internet shutdowns across the world in 2015 and 56 in 2016 > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> If there is any question about all the statements and > > >>>>>>> campaigns, I am happy to help or convey your questions since > > >>>>>>> I am involved, on a personal capacity, in these movements > > >>>>>>> advocating and fighting Internet shutdowns across Africa. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Regards, > > >>>>>>> Arsene > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> PS: Copied is Deji Olukotun who works on Advocacy for Access > > >>>>>>> Now. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> ------------------------ > > >>>>>>> **Arsène Tungali** > > >>>>>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > > >>>>>>> *, > > >>>>>>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, > > >>>>>>> *Mabingwa Forum * > > >>>>>>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> > > >>>>>>> GPG: 523644A0 > > >>>>>>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > > >>>>>>> mandela-washington.html> > > >>>>>>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > > >>>>>>> leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf- > ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors> > > >>>>>>> & Mexico > > >>>>>>> leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>) > > >>>>>>> - AFRISIG 2016 > > >>>>>>> - Blogger > > >>>>>>> - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > > >>>>>>> & > > >>>>>>> Marrakech > > >>>>>>> attendees-2016-03-14-en> > > >>>>>>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius > > >>>>>>> fellowship-winners> > > >>>>>>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The > > >>>>>>> HuffingtonPost UK > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> 2017-01-26 5:34 GMT+02:00 Judith Hellerstein < > > >>>>>>> judith at jhellerstein.com>: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> HI All, > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Just passing on a note from Mafor Edwan of ISOC Cameroon > > >>>>>>>> about the Cameroonian Government shut down of the Internet > > >>>>>>>> in his country. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> I am at a loss for words of yet another country that has cut > > >>>>>>>> off Internet Access for its citizens. Thanks to ISOC > > >>>>>>>> Cameroon for all their efforts to resolve this crisis, even > > >>>>>>>> though they have not been successful, I am glad that they > > >>>>>>>> have tried. I am a passionate believer in an open Internet. > > >>>>>>>> One that is available to all. By connecting the world, > > >>>>>>>> working with others, and advocating for equal access to the > > >>>>>>>> Internet, We can make the world a better place. Edwan hopes > > >>>>>>>> people can share this word about this and hopefully some one > > >>>>>>>> can reach the President and tell him what a bad idea this > > >>>>>>>> is. I told him I would share it around. Hope others can do > > >>>>>>>> the same > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Best, > > >>>>>>>> Judith > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________ > _____________ > > >>>>>>>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO > > >>>>>>>> Hellerstein & Associates > > >>>>>>>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 > > >>>>>>>> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein > > >>>>>>>> E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com Website: > > >>>>>>>> www.jhellerstein.com Linked In: > > >>>>>>>> www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ Opening Telecom & > > >>>>>>>> Technology Opportunities Worldwide > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] FYI- Constance's blog post > > >>>>>>>> about the G20 - and the updated Internet Governance timeline > > >>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:49:53 -0500 > > >>>>>>>> From: Queen Mother > > >>>>>>>> To: Dan York > > >>>>>>>> CC: ISOC Chapter Delegates > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> , Carl Gahnberg > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Good evening Fellow ISOC Delegates, > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> I bring you sad news about the state of internet access in > > >>>>>>>> my home country Cameroon. > > >>>>>>>> I have sobbed uncontrollably for weeks as the govt of my > > >>>>>>>> country tortures and mimes her citizens and recently has cut > > >>>>>>>> off the ability to send financial support to our families > > >>>>>>>> through western union and has now cut off the internet. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Please if you can read the articles below. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Cameroon Cuts Internet in English-speaking Regions > > >>>>>>>> english-speaking-regions/3682688.html> > > >>>>>>>> http://www.voanews.com/a/cameroon-cuts-internet-in-english-s > > >>>>>>>> peaking-regions/3682688.html > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> How Cameroon pressured mobile operators to shut down the > > >>>>>>>> internet and stifle dissent > > >>>>>>>> other-operators-to-shut-down-internet-in-bamenda-buea-regions/> > > >>>>>>>> https://qz.com/893401/cameroon-pressured-mtn-and-other-opera > > >>>>>>>> tors-to-shut-down-internet-in-bamenda-buea-regions/ > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Thank you. > > >>>>>>>> Mafor edwan > > >>>>>>>> Vice President #2 > > >>>>>>>> ISOC Cameroon > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From lmcknigh at syr.edu Sun Jan 29 17:58:20 2017 From: lmcknigh at syr.edu (Lee W McKnight) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 22:58:20 +0000 Subject: [governance] Proposal for IGC to formally respond to "Please Cameroon did not shut down the Internet !!!" In-Reply-To: References: <4B4986C9-C64C-4F29-92FB-2A16DBF968A5@gmail.com> <20170129234250.0148a4d5@quill> Message-ID: <715e94b2d2c044eebef845495c094a5e@EX13-MBX-07.ad.syr.edu> Salanieta, I respectfully disagree; we/IGC can ‘speak’ to whoever we want to speak to. Releasing a statement addressed to them/about them amounts to the same thing in any case. Whether ISOC Cameroon will listen is another matter. Whether it is best for IGC to address ISOC Cameroon, or the government of Cameroon, or…is there a third suggestion? is also another matter. I vaguely recall IGC doing something at the time of the Egyptian Internet shut-down; but each circumstance is different so I defer to folks closer to the scene to suggest what might make sense in this case. To ne clear I support Norbert’s suggestion of a statement from IGC; who it is specifically addressed to we may wish to debate further, along with wording. Lee McKnight From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 5:49 PM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Norbert Bollow Subject: Re: [governance] Proposal for IGC to formally respond to "Please Cameroon did not shut down the Internet !!!" We do not have jurisdiction or locus to speak to Cameroon's local ISOC chapter. We can if there is consensus.put out a statement though. On 30/01/2017 11:43, "Norbert Bollow" > wrote: (Cc list trimmed) Being fully in agreement with the points that have been made very eloquently in regard to this issue by multiple people including Milton and Mawaki, and being apalled by the stance which the current president of ISOC Cameroon Chapter seems to have taken, I wonder whether it might make sense for IGC to issue a statement in the form of a letter to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter, in which we would urge the ISOC Cameroon Chapter to adopt a clear stance that regional Internet shutdowns are not acceptable in regard to any region and not justifiable in any way. Greetings, Norbert On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 17:57:51 +0000 Mawaki Chango > wrote: > Thanks all trying to report out of Cameroon. > > Like others, I was struck by the implications from Janvier's > reporting, or rather his attempt at a "mise au point" which > completely missed the mark, I'm sorry. > > Government is blocking Internet access only in 2 regions out of 8, so > the situation is not that bad as the whole Cameroon being shutdown > and we should chill? > > Oh, and money remittance operations to those 2 regions are also > suspended, but not a big deal really? > > And you say that's done by the government for the sake of the whole > population in those 2 regions? How's that? We just need to swallow > that assertion made by you or the government and keep moving, nothing > to see here? > > Interesting enough, the other 6 regions don't need that security and > safety which is supposed to be found in shutting down the Internet > (do you really think if there was a real terrorism threat from a > section of the population accessing the Internet, that threat will go > away by maintaining access only for their neighbors?) It's all in the > (government) motivation, isn't it? If one cannot question the actual > government's motivation in taking such extreme measures then it's > going to be hard to come to a consensus on lasting peaceful solutions. > > I myself was born francophone and still a national of the same African > francophone country of birth, and I can relate to that notion of > "pleins pouvoirs"-- not to say "pouvoir absolu"-- found in some of > our countries, which Joash was referring to. But I would urge ISOC > Cameroon to try to relate also to the global culture of individual > rights, particularly in the age of the Internet. Then whatever you'll > be able to accept as the right of any Cameroonian, should be the > right of all Cameroonians without distinction of language, ethnicity, > religion, political views or location, etc. > > And, addressing the government here, I personally can't even begin to > understand what is so difficult to understand in the notion that > being a bilingual country is an asset, an advantage rather than a > threat or drawback. > > So yes, we get it, not the whole of Cameroon is cut off from the > Internet. But no, that doesn't make it any more acceptable that > "only" a couple of regions are targeted by what seems like a > punishment for a "crime de lèse majesté". > > Now the question on our table here is what we, global civil society > coalitions, can do about a situation like this. I recall working for a > short while at APC on those universal periodic reviews (hope I'm not > messing up with that heavily acronym based terminology) at the UN > Human Rights Council, and Cameroon was up for review at some point. > Has any progress been made since? Any other course of action to look > into? > > Thanks, > > Mawaki > > > On Jan 28, 2017 4:37 PM, "Mwendwa Kivuva" > > wrote: > > It is quite unfortunate the situation in Cameroon, especially how > people argue out human rights issues when the pinching shoe is on the > neighbors leg, when their "enemy", imagined or real, is being > persecuted. > > ______________________ > Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya > twitter.com/lordmwesh > > > > On 28 January 2017 at 18:19, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron > > wrote: > > > Dear All > > > > I am right here in Douala Cameroun. And when I read Janvier, I will > > want many people to understand one thing. Mister Janvier is > > francophone. To many francophones, rights belong to authorities and > > not peoples . People must fear not respect authorities because the > > said authorities have all powers (they call it in french (plein > > pouvoirs) to do and undo on every citizen. > > > > To him, a Sous Prefet can ask for internet to be suspended in some > > part of Cameroon, he is in his right as an authority. Currently, a > > Supreme Court Atorney General, Mr Paul Ayah Abine is arrested and > > is in detention without due process. The same is the case another > > Magistrate in Buea who was arrested and ferried to Yaounde a day > > ago. Their crime; for supporting the anglophone call for a > > federation. > > > > To the likes of Janvier, it is the Government that gives liberty > > (C'est le gouvernement qui donne la liberté in French) > > > > The civilized world must act against such egregious obscurantism > > > > Agien Nyangkwe > > > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Evelyn Namara > > > wrote: > > > >> Dear all, > >> > >> As a person who has been on the side of the shutdown, it is not > >> right and justifiable to shutdown the Internet, even for a few > >> regions. Mr. Janvier, your comments in this email hit me so hard. > >> As a person who has some level of authority, you should be > >> concerned and fight for all rights of all citizens. > >> > >> The 6 million plus people who make up the 2 regions that are > >> deprived of the Internet also matter. Everyone matters, and like > >> the Internet Society always says "The Internet is for everybody". > >> > >> Let's all fight and make leaders accountable. > >> > >> I stand with the people of Cameroun. > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Joash Moitui > >> > wrote: > >> > >>> Thank you all. > >>> > >>> This is a vital interesting topic. Having lived in Cameroon for 3 > >>> years, I would say that the shutdown in these two region is no > >>> different from shutdowns witnessed in Uganda and Gambia for > >>> instance. It is simply the political elite using their political > >>> influence to prevent the human rights violations calling for > >>> federation in these areas. The two areas made up of Anglophones, > >>> who have been marginalized largely because of their language and > >>> their calls for federation have been met by internet shutdown and > >>> full force of security agents. It is this that the Cameroon > >>> government does not want to be easily distributed within the > >>> social media. > >>> > >>> Joash > >>> > >>> On 27 Jan 2017, at 10:56, Nonhlanhla Chanza > >>> > wrote: > >>> > >>> I still weep blood for those two regions. I have never been > >>> convinced by the argument that there might be circumstances that > >>> justifies a shutdown. So many places in turmoil and war in the > >>> world but people have access still to the Internet. > >>> On 26 Jan 2017 17:59, "Janvier NGNOULAYE" > > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi to all, > >>>> It seems to me that the problem of access to Internet in > >>>> Cameroon is very much amplified here on the Net. There are 10 > >>>> regions in Cameroon, the problem of access to the Internet is > >>>> only concerning 2 Regions. These 2 regions actually has some > >>>> political or social crisis. The government and other > >>>> stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for suitable > >>>> solutions. Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut these > >>>> two regions of Internet access and Western Union money transfer > >>>> services, for the sake of the entire population of these 2 > >>>> regions. Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 > >>>> regions. I'm sending this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. So the > >>>> situation is not a disaster as some seem to publish on the Net. > >>>> The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the government and the other > >>>> stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even if it > >>>> involves a temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union > >>>> services. > >>>> > >>>> ISOC Cameroon Chapter > >>>> President > >>>> > >>>> 2017-01-26 15:45 GMT+01:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro > >>>> >: > >>>> > >>>>> Hi > >>>>> > >>>>> Indeed, this is a terrible situation, which can happen in any > >>>>> country, which is why everyone should take action. > >>>>> I'd think bringing in ISOC and other organizations will help > >>>>> deepen these efforts. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Deji Bryce Olukotun < > >>>>> deji at accessnow.org> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Thank you, Arsène for the introduction and the summary. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Judith, as Arsène explained, the #KeepitOn coalition > >>>>>> (111 organizations from 51 > >>>>>> countries) is pushing back against the shutdown. Our efforts > >>>>>> are being led by Julie Owono from Internet Without Borders > >>>>>> > >>>>>> . > >>>>>> > >>>>>> At present, we are fighting the shutdown in several ways: > >>>>>> - open letter to government officials and agencies to restore > >>>>>> access > >>>>>> - media outreach > >>>>>> - Tweet action at Cameroonian officials > >>>>>> > >>>>>> (please support!) > >>>>>> - outreach to telcos operating in the country, including a > >>>>>> statement from the Global Network Initiative > >>>>>> > >>>>>> (Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Investors, academics) > >>>>>> - outreach to international officials at the UN and AU > >>>>>> - coordination with local groups in Cameroon > >>>>>> - coordinating with CDN's and other measurement entities > >>>>>> > >>>>>> We welcome any ideas or suggestions about how to get the > >>>>>> internet turned back on. With each passing day, people are at > >>>>>> increased risk of human rights violations and the economy is > >>>>>> losing money. We'll reach out to ISOC to coordinate as well. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Best, > >>>>>> Deji > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:44 AM, Arsène Tungali < > >>>>>> arsenebaguma at gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hi Judith, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks for sharing this with us. What's going on in Cameroon > >>>>>>> is just a shame. For colleagues who have never experienced > >>>>>>> Internet shutdown, please understand that it is a nightmare. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On this note about Cameroon, several organizations including > >>>>>>> Access Now and Internet Without Borders > >>>>>>> are > >>>>>>> doing a lot of advocacy and statements > >>>>>>> , > >>>>>>> letters have been sent to officials in Cameroon to ask them > >>>>>>> to bring back the Internet. A hashtag about this has been > >>>>>>> started and you can take action as well: > >>>>>>> #BringBackkOutInternet > >>>>>>> . > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> You can learn more about the #KeepItOn > >>>>>>> campaign here > >>>>>>> . > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Eduard Snowden sent in a tweet > >>>>>>> where > >>>>>>> he said: "*This is the future of repression. If we do not > >>>>>>> fight it there, it will happen here*" and I cannot agree more > >>>>>>> with him because it is just going from one country to > >>>>>>> another. Over 8 countries in Africa, including mine the DRC, > >>>>>>> have experienced shutdown and no one knows who is next. Acces > >>>>>>> Now has reported 15 > >>>>>>> Internet shutdowns across the world in 2015 and 56 in 2016 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> If there is any question about all the statements and > >>>>>>> campaigns, I am happy to help or convey your questions since > >>>>>>> I am involved, on a personal capacity, in these movements > >>>>>>> advocating and fighting Internet shutdowns across Africa. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>> Arsene > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> PS: Copied is Deji Olukotun who works on Advocacy for Access > >>>>>>> Now. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ------------------------ > >>>>>>> **Arsène Tungali** > >>>>>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > >>>>>>> *, > >>>>>>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, > >>>>>>> *Mabingwa Forum * > >>>>>>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> > >>>>>>> GPG: 523644A0 > >>>>>>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> & Mexico > >>>>>>> ) > >>>>>>> - AFRISIG 2016 > >>>>>>> - Blogger > >>>>>>> - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > >>>>>>> & > >>>>>>> Marrakech > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The > >>>>>>> HuffingtonPost UK > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 2017-01-26 5:34 GMT+02:00 Judith Hellerstein < > >>>>>>> judith at jhellerstein.com>: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> HI All, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Just passing on a note from Mafor Edwan of ISOC Cameroon > >>>>>>>> about the Cameroonian Government shut down of the Internet > >>>>>>>> in his country. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I am at a loss for words of yet another country that has cut > >>>>>>>> off Internet Access for its citizens. Thanks to ISOC > >>>>>>>> Cameroon for all their efforts to resolve this crisis, even > >>>>>>>> though they have not been successful, I am glad that they > >>>>>>>> have tried. I am a passionate believer in an open Internet. > >>>>>>>> One that is available to all. By connecting the world, > >>>>>>>> working with others, and advocating for equal access to the > >>>>>>>> Internet, We can make the world a better place. Edwan hopes > >>>>>>>> people can share this word about this and hopefully some one > >>>>>>>> can reach the President and tell him what a bad idea this > >>>>>>>> is. I told him I would share it around. Hope others can do > >>>>>>>> the same > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Best, > >>>>>>>> Judith > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________________ > >>>>>>>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO > >>>>>>>> Hellerstein & Associates > >>>>>>>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 > >>>>>>>> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein > >>>>>>>> E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com Website: > >>>>>>>> www.jhellerstein.com Linked In: > >>>>>>>> www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ Opening Telecom & > >>>>>>>> Technology Opportunities Worldwide > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] FYI- Constance's blog post > >>>>>>>> about the G20 - and the updated Internet Governance timeline > >>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:49:53 -0500 > >>>>>>>> From: Queen Mother > > >>>>>>>> > To: Dan York > > >>>>>>>> > CC: ISOC Chapter Delegates > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> >, Carl Gahnberg > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Good evening Fellow ISOC Delegates, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I bring you sad news about the state of internet access in > >>>>>>>> my home country Cameroon. > >>>>>>>> I have sobbed uncontrollably for weeks as the govt of my > >>>>>>>> country tortures and mimes her citizens and recently has cut > >>>>>>>> off the ability to send financial support to our families > >>>>>>>> through western union and has now cut off the internet. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Please if you can read the articles below. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Cameroon Cuts Internet in English-speaking Regions > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> http://www.voanews.com/a/cameroon-cuts-internet-in-english-s > >>>>>>>> peaking-regions/3682688.html > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> How Cameroon pressured mobile operators to shut down the > >>>>>>>> internet and stifle dissent > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://qz.com/893401/cameroon-pressured-mtn-and-other-opera > >>>>>>>> tors-to-shut-down-internet-in-bamenda-buea-regions/ > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thank you. > >>>>>>>> Mafor edwan > >>>>>>>> Vice President #2 > >>>>>>>> ISOC Cameroon ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From raquino at gmail.com Sun Jan 29 18:20:23 2017 From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 20:20:23 -0300 Subject: [governance] Proposal for IGC to formally respond to "Please Cameroon did not shut down the Internet !!!" In-Reply-To: References: <4B4986C9-C64C-4F29-92FB-2A16DBF968A5@gmail.com> <20170129234250.0148a4d5@quill> Message-ID: Hi I support the statement but... I went back and found Janvier's message. What the president of ISOC Cameroon says is what many local actors say in all shutdowns: there is no position openly against the government actions. I've also done a quick twitter search on Cameroon and while even Snowden is dennouncing government actions in the regions (like prison threats via mass SMS), stories about folks being arrested continue. So an open letter to support the activists already fighting (and some unjustly arrested) and asking ISOC and other organizations for support, could be a way to go here. Best, Renata http://lists.igcaucus.org/arc/governance/2017-01/msg00069.html From: Janvier NGNOULAYE To: Internet Governance Subject: Re: [governance] [bestbits] Please Cameroon did not shut down the Internet !!! Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 16:58:48 +0100 Hi to all, It seems to me that the problem of access to Internet in Cameroon is very much amplified here on the Net. There are 10 regions in Cameroon, the problem of access to the Internet is only concerning 2 Regions. These 2 regions actually has some political or social crisis. The government and other stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for suitable solutions. Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut these two regions of Internet access and Western Union money transfer services, for the sake of the entire population of these 2 regions. Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 regions. I'm sending this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. So the situation is not a disaster as some seem to publish on the Net. The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the government and the other stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even if it involves a temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union services. ISOC Cameroon Chapter President On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 7:48 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote: > We do not have jurisdiction or locus to speak to Cameroon's local ISOC > chapter. We can if there is consensus.put out a statement though. > > On 30/01/2017 11:43, "Norbert Bollow" wrote: >> >> (Cc list trimmed) >> >> Being fully in agreement with the points that have been made very >> eloquently in regard to this issue by multiple people including >> Milton and Mawaki, and being apalled by the stance which the current >> president of ISOC Cameroon Chapter seems to have taken, I wonder whether >> it might make sense for IGC to issue a statement in the form of a >> letter to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter, in which we would urge the ISOC >> Cameroon Chapter to adopt a clear stance that regional Internet >> shutdowns are not acceptable in regard to any region and not justifiable >> in any way. >> >> Greetings, >> Norbert >> >> >> On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 17:57:51 +0000 >> Mawaki Chango wrote: >> >> > Thanks all trying to report out of Cameroon. >> > >> > Like others, I was struck by the implications from Janvier's >> > reporting, or rather his attempt at a "mise au point" which >> > completely missed the mark, I'm sorry. >> > >> > Government is blocking Internet access only in 2 regions out of 8, so >> > the situation is not that bad as the whole Cameroon being shutdown >> > and we should chill? >> > >> > Oh, and money remittance operations to those 2 regions are also >> > suspended, but not a big deal really? >> > >> > And you say that's done by the government for the sake of the whole >> > population in those 2 regions? How's that? We just need to swallow >> > that assertion made by you or the government and keep moving, nothing >> > to see here? >> > >> > Interesting enough, the other 6 regions don't need that security and >> > safety which is supposed to be found in shutting down the Internet >> > (do you really think if there was a real terrorism threat from a >> > section of the population accessing the Internet, that threat will go >> > away by maintaining access only for their neighbors?) It's all in the >> > (government) motivation, isn't it? If one cannot question the actual >> > government's motivation in taking such extreme measures then it's >> > going to be hard to come to a consensus on lasting peaceful solutions. >> > >> > I myself was born francophone and still a national of the same African >> > francophone country of birth, and I can relate to that notion of >> > "pleins pouvoirs"-- not to say "pouvoir absolu"-- found in some of >> > our countries, which Joash was referring to. But I would urge ISOC >> > Cameroon to try to relate also to the global culture of individual >> > rights, particularly in the age of the Internet. Then whatever you'll >> > be able to accept as the right of any Cameroonian, should be the >> > right of all Cameroonians without distinction of language, ethnicity, >> > religion, political views or location, etc. >> > >> > And, addressing the government here, I personally can't even begin to >> > understand what is so difficult to understand in the notion that >> > being a bilingual country is an asset, an advantage rather than a >> > threat or drawback. >> > >> > So yes, we get it, not the whole of Cameroon is cut off from the >> > Internet. But no, that doesn't make it any more acceptable that >> > "only" a couple of regions are targeted by what seems like a >> > punishment for a "crime de lèse majesté". >> > >> > Now the question on our table here is what we, global civil society >> > coalitions, can do about a situation like this. I recall working for a >> > short while at APC on those universal periodic reviews (hope I'm not >> > messing up with that heavily acronym based terminology) at the UN >> > Human Rights Council, and Cameroon was up for review at some point. >> > Has any progress been made since? Any other course of action to look >> > into? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Mawaki >> > >> > >> > On Jan 28, 2017 4:37 PM, "Mwendwa Kivuva" >> > wrote: >> > >> > It is quite unfortunate the situation in Cameroon, especially how >> > people argue out human rights issues when the pinching shoe is on the >> > neighbors leg, when their "enemy", imagined or real, is being >> > persecuted. >> > >> > ______________________ >> > Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya >> > twitter.com/lordmwesh >> > >> > >> > >> > On 28 January 2017 at 18:19, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron >> > wrote: >> > >> > > Dear All >> > > >> > > I am right here in Douala Cameroun. And when I read Janvier, I will >> > > want many people to understand one thing. Mister Janvier is >> > > francophone. To many francophones, rights belong to authorities and >> > > not peoples . People must fear not respect authorities because the >> > > said authorities have all powers (they call it in french (plein >> > > pouvoirs) to do and undo on every citizen. >> > > >> > > To him, a Sous Prefet can ask for internet to be suspended in some >> > > part of Cameroon, he is in his right as an authority. Currently, a >> > > Supreme Court Atorney General, Mr Paul Ayah Abine is arrested and >> > > is in detention without due process. The same is the case another >> > > Magistrate in Buea who was arrested and ferried to Yaounde a day >> > > ago. Their crime; for supporting the anglophone call for a >> > > federation. >> > > >> > > To the likes of Janvier, it is the Government that gives liberty >> > > (C'est le gouvernement qui donne la liberté in French) >> > > >> > > The civilized world must act against such egregious obscurantism >> > > >> > > Agien Nyangkwe >> > > >> > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Evelyn Namara >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > >> Dear all, >> > >> >> > >> As a person who has been on the side of the shutdown, it is not >> > >> right and justifiable to shutdown the Internet, even for a few >> > >> regions. Mr. Janvier, your comments in this email hit me so hard. >> > >> As a person who has some level of authority, you should be >> > >> concerned and fight for all rights of all citizens. >> > >> >> > >> The 6 million plus people who make up the 2 regions that are >> > >> deprived of the Internet also matter. Everyone matters, and like >> > >> the Internet Society always says "The Internet is for everybody". >> > >> >> > >> Let's all fight and make leaders accountable. >> > >> >> > >> I stand with the people of Cameroun. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Joash Moitui >> > >> wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> Thank you all. >> > >>> >> > >>> This is a vital interesting topic. Having lived in Cameroon for 3 >> > >>> years, I would say that the shutdown in these two region is no >> > >>> different from shutdowns witnessed in Uganda and Gambia for >> > >>> instance. It is simply the political elite using their political >> > >>> influence to prevent the human rights violations calling for >> > >>> federation in these areas. The two areas made up of Anglophones, >> > >>> who have been marginalized largely because of their language and >> > >>> their calls for federation have been met by internet shutdown and >> > >>> full force of security agents. It is this that the Cameroon >> > >>> government does not want to be easily distributed within the >> > >>> social media. >> > >>> >> > >>> Joash >> > >>> >> > >>> On 27 Jan 2017, at 10:56, Nonhlanhla Chanza >> > >>> wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>> I still weep blood for those two regions. I have never been >> > >>> convinced by the argument that there might be circumstances that >> > >>> justifies a shutdown. So many places in turmoil and war in the >> > >>> world but people have access still to the Internet. >> > >>> On 26 Jan 2017 17:59, "Janvier NGNOULAYE" >> > >>> wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>>> Hi to all, >> > >>>> It seems to me that the problem of access to Internet in >> > >>>> Cameroon is very much amplified here on the Net. There are 10 >> > >>>> regions in Cameroon, the problem of access to the Internet is >> > >>>> only concerning 2 Regions. These 2 regions actually has some >> > >>>> political or social crisis. The government and other >> > >>>> stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for suitable >> > >>>> solutions. Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut these >> > >>>> two regions of Internet access and Western Union money transfer >> > >>>> services, for the sake of the entire population of these 2 >> > >>>> regions. Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 >> > >>>> regions. I'm sending this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. So the >> > >>>> situation is not a disaster as some seem to publish on the Net. >> > >>>> The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the government and the other >> > >>>> stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even if it >> > >>>> involves a temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union >> > >>>> services. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> ISOC Cameroon Chapter >> > >>>> President >> > >>>> >> > >>>> 2017-01-26 15:45 GMT+01:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro >> > >>>> : >> > >>>> >> > >>>>> Hi >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Indeed, this is a terrible situation, which can happen in any >> > >>>>> country, which is why everyone should take action. >> > >>>>> I'd think bringing in ISOC and other organizations will help >> > >>>>> deepen these efforts. >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Deji Bryce Olukotun < >> > >>>>> deji at accessnow.org> wrote: >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>>> Thank you, Arsène for the introduction and the summary. >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> Judith, as Arsène explained, the #KeepitOn coalition >> > >>>>>> (111 organizations from 51 >> > >>>>>> countries) is pushing back against the shutdown. Our efforts >> > >>>>>> are being led by Julie Owono from Internet Without Borders >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> . >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> At present, we are fighting the shutdown in several ways: >> > >>>>>> - open letter to government officials and agencies to restore >> > >>>>>> access >> > >>>>>> - media outreach >> > >>>>>> - Tweet action at Cameroonian officials >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> (please support!) >> > >>>>>> - outreach to telcos operating in the country, including a >> > >>>>>> statement from the Global Network Initiative >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> (Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Investors, academics) >> > >>>>>> - outreach to international officials at the UN and AU >> > >>>>>> - coordination with local groups in Cameroon >> > >>>>>> - coordinating with CDN's and other measurement entities >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> We welcome any ideas or suggestions about how to get the >> > >>>>>> internet turned back on. With each passing day, people are at >> > >>>>>> increased risk of human rights violations and the economy is >> > >>>>>> losing money. We'll reach out to ISOC to coordinate as well. >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> Best, >> > >>>>>> Deji >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:44 AM, Arsène Tungali < >> > >>>>>> arsenebaguma at gmail.com> wrote: >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> Hi Judith, >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> Thanks for sharing this with us. What's going on in Cameroon >> > >>>>>>> is just a shame. For colleagues who have never experienced >> > >>>>>>> Internet shutdown, please understand that it is a nightmare. >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> On this note about Cameroon, several organizations including >> > >>>>>>> Access Now and Internet Without Borders >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> are >> > >>>>>>> doing a lot of advocacy and statements >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> , >> > >>>>>>> letters have been sent to officials in Cameroon to ask them >> > >>>>>>> to bring back the Internet. A hashtag about this has been >> > >>>>>>> started and you can take action as well: >> > >>>>>>> #BringBackkOutInternet >> > >>>>>>> . >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> You can learn more about the #KeepItOn >> > >>>>>>> campaign here >> > >>>>>>> . >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> Eduard Snowden sent in a tweet >> > >>>>>>> where >> > >>>>>>> he said: "*This is the future of repression. If we do not >> > >>>>>>> fight it there, it will happen here*" and I cannot agree more >> > >>>>>>> with him because it is just going from one country to >> > >>>>>>> another. Over 8 countries in Africa, including mine the DRC, >> > >>>>>>> have experienced shutdown and no one knows who is next. Acces >> > >>>>>>> Now has reported 15 >> > >>>>>>> Internet shutdowns across the world in 2015 and 56 in 2016 >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> If there is any question about all the statements and >> > >>>>>>> campaigns, I am happy to help or convey your questions since >> > >>>>>>> I am involved, on a personal capacity, in these movements >> > >>>>>>> advocating and fighting Internet shutdowns across Africa. >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> Regards, >> > >>>>>>> Arsene >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> PS: Copied is Deji Olukotun who works on Advocacy for Access >> > >>>>>>> Now. >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> ------------------------ >> > >>>>>>> **Arsène Tungali** >> > >>>>>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >> > >>>>>>> *, >> > >>>>>>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, >> > >>>>>>> *Mabingwa Forum * >> > >>>>>>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> >> > >>>>>>> GPG: 523644A0 >> > >>>>>>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> & Mexico >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> ) >> > >>>>>>> - AFRISIG 2016 >> > >>>>>>> - Blogger >> > >>>>>>> - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >> > >>>>>>> & >> > >>>>>>> Marrakech >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The >> > >>>>>>> HuffingtonPost UK >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> 2017-01-26 5:34 GMT+02:00 Judith Hellerstein < >> > >>>>>>> judith at jhellerstein.com>: >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> HI All, >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> Just passing on a note from Mafor Edwan of ISOC Cameroon >> > >>>>>>>> about the Cameroonian Government shut down of the Internet >> > >>>>>>>> in his country. >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> I am at a loss for words of yet another country that has cut >> > >>>>>>>> off Internet Access for its citizens. Thanks to ISOC >> > >>>>>>>> Cameroon for all their efforts to resolve this crisis, even >> > >>>>>>>> though they have not been successful, I am glad that they >> > >>>>>>>> have tried. I am a passionate believer in an open Internet. >> > >>>>>>>> One that is available to all. By connecting the world, >> > >>>>>>>> working with others, and advocating for equal access to the >> > >>>>>>>> Internet, We can make the world a better place. Edwan hopes >> > >>>>>>>> people can share this word about this and hopefully some one >> > >>>>>>>> can reach the President and tell him what a bad idea this >> > >>>>>>>> is. I told him I would share it around. Hope others can do >> > >>>>>>>> the same >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> Best, >> > >>>>>>>> Judith >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________________ >> > >>>>>>>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO >> > >>>>>>>> Hellerstein & Associates >> > >>>>>>>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 >> > >>>>>>>> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein >> > >>>>>>>> E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com Website: >> > >>>>>>>> www.jhellerstein.com Linked In: >> > >>>>>>>> www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ Opening Telecom & >> > >>>>>>>> Technology Opportunities Worldwide >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] FYI- Constance's blog post >> > >>>>>>>> about the G20 - and the updated Internet Governance timeline >> > >>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:49:53 -0500 >> > >>>>>>>> From: Queen Mother >> > >>>>>>>> To: Dan York >> > >>>>>>>> CC: ISOC Chapter Delegates >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> , Carl Gahnberg >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> Good evening Fellow ISOC Delegates, >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> I bring you sad news about the state of internet access in >> > >>>>>>>> my home country Cameroon. >> > >>>>>>>> I have sobbed uncontrollably for weeks as the govt of my >> > >>>>>>>> country tortures and mimes her citizens and recently has cut >> > >>>>>>>> off the ability to send financial support to our families >> > >>>>>>>> through western union and has now cut off the internet. >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> Please if you can read the articles below. >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> Cameroon Cuts Internet in English-speaking Regions >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> http://www.voanews.com/a/cameroon-cuts-internet-in-english-s >> > >>>>>>>> peaking-regions/3682688.html >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> How Cameroon pressured mobile operators to shut down the >> > >>>>>>>> internet and stifle dissent >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> https://qz.com/893401/cameroon-pressured-mtn-and-other-opera >> > >>>>>>>> tors-to-shut-down-internet-in-bamenda-buea-regions/ >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> Thank you. >> > >>>>>>>> Mafor edwan >> > >>>>>>>> Vice President #2 >> > >>>>>>>> ISOC Cameroon >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From raquino at gmail.com Sun Jan 29 18:43:11 2017 From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 20:43:11 -0300 Subject: [governance] the ban and the tech industry Message-ID: Hi Quite a frantic weekend, with news developing every minute: White House Official, in Reversal, Says Green Card Holders Won’t Be Barred https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/29/us/politics/white-house-official-in-reversal-says-green-card-holders-wont-be-barred.html and also this Silicon Valley’s Ambivalence Toward Trump Turns to Anger https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/29/technology/silicon-valleys-ambivalence-toward-trump-turns-to-anger.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=b-lede-package-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news While it is early in the game, it will be quite interesting to see the power internet companies have to pressure a government on a social theme. This sounds like the ban is a theme for internet governance too. Best, Renata -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From kichango at gmail.com Sun Jan 29 19:08:21 2017 From: kichango at gmail.com (Mawaki Chango) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 00:08:21 +0000 Subject: [governance] Proposal for IGC to formally respond to "Please Cameroon did not shut down the Internet !!!" In-Reply-To: References: <4B4986C9-C64C-4F29-92FB-2A16DBF968A5@gmail.com> <20170129234250.0148a4d5@quill> Message-ID: Yes, I'd tend to agree with Renata that it is of a higher priority, generally speaking, to support activists fighting against the Internet shutdown and all who have been arrested and are detained without due process. So the open letter /statement shouldn't be only or mainly about ISOC Cameroon's position (we don't even know for sure whether Janvier was really expressing the chapter position or just his own opinion, although he signed as Chapter President), or what that chapter can do to help the cause. But because we are precisely an Internet Caucus, we'll have to emphasize the Internet aspects of this crackdown, namely the shutdown itself and ensuing abuse of related rights, including by urging any reputable Internet related organization in the country (such as the ISOC Chapter and possibly others) to take a stance and any appropriate action, if applicable. In the particular case of the ISOC Chapter, we can do this knowing the values that the parent organization stands for, which are supposed to be shared by the chapters. Of course, as Lee mentioned, it is up to ISOC Cameroon to respond to this in any way they choose to, including with silence - and that will be their responsibility, too. Mawaki On Jan 29, 2017 11:21 PM, "Renata Aquino Ribeiro" wrote: > Hi > > I support the statement but... > > I went back and found Janvier's message. > What the president of ISOC Cameroon says is what many local actors say > in all shutdowns: there is no position openly against the government > actions. > > I've also done a quick twitter search on Cameroon and while even > Snowden is dennouncing government actions in the regions (like prison > threats via mass SMS), stories about folks being arrested continue. > > So an open letter to support the activists already fighting (and some > unjustly arrested) and asking ISOC and other organizations for > support, could be a way to go here. > > Best, > > Renata > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/arc/governance/2017-01/msg00069.html > > From: Janvier NGNOULAYE > To: Internet Governance > Subject: Re: [governance] [bestbits] Please Cameroon did not shut down > the Internet !!! > Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 16:58:48 +0100 > > Hi to all, > It seems to me that the problem of access to Internet in Cameroon is > very much amplified here on the Net. There are 10 regions in Cameroon, > the problem of access to the Internet is only concerning 2 Regions. > These 2 regions actually has some political or social crisis. The > government and other stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for > suitable solutions. Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut > these two regions of Internet access and Western Union money transfer > services, for the sake of the entire population of these 2 regions. > Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 regions. I'm > sending this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. > So the situation is not a disaster as some seem to publish on the Net. > The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the government and the other > stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even if it involves a > temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union services. > > ISOC Cameroon Chapter > President > > > > > On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 7:48 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro > wrote: > > We do not have jurisdiction or locus to speak to Cameroon's local ISOC > > chapter. We can if there is consensus.put out a statement though. > > > > On 30/01/2017 11:43, "Norbert Bollow" wrote: > >> > >> (Cc list trimmed) > >> > >> Being fully in agreement with the points that have been made very > >> eloquently in regard to this issue by multiple people including > >> Milton and Mawaki, and being apalled by the stance which the current > >> president of ISOC Cameroon Chapter seems to have taken, I wonder whether > >> it might make sense for IGC to issue a statement in the form of a > >> letter to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter, in which we would urge the ISOC > >> Cameroon Chapter to adopt a clear stance that regional Internet > >> shutdowns are not acceptable in regard to any region and not justifiable > >> in any way. > >> > >> Greetings, > >> Norbert > >> > >> > >> On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 17:57:51 +0000 > >> Mawaki Chango wrote: > >> > >> > Thanks all trying to report out of Cameroon. > >> > > >> > Like others, I was struck by the implications from Janvier's > >> > reporting, or rather his attempt at a "mise au point" which > >> > completely missed the mark, I'm sorry. > >> > > >> > Government is blocking Internet access only in 2 regions out of 8, so > >> > the situation is not that bad as the whole Cameroon being shutdown > >> > and we should chill? > >> > > >> > Oh, and money remittance operations to those 2 regions are also > >> > suspended, but not a big deal really? > >> > > >> > And you say that's done by the government for the sake of the whole > >> > population in those 2 regions? How's that? We just need to swallow > >> > that assertion made by you or the government and keep moving, nothing > >> > to see here? > >> > > >> > Interesting enough, the other 6 regions don't need that security and > >> > safety which is supposed to be found in shutting down the Internet > >> > (do you really think if there was a real terrorism threat from a > >> > section of the population accessing the Internet, that threat will go > >> > away by maintaining access only for their neighbors?) It's all in the > >> > (government) motivation, isn't it? If one cannot question the actual > >> > government's motivation in taking such extreme measures then it's > >> > going to be hard to come to a consensus on lasting peaceful solutions. > >> > > >> > I myself was born francophone and still a national of the same African > >> > francophone country of birth, and I can relate to that notion of > >> > "pleins pouvoirs"-- not to say "pouvoir absolu"-- found in some of > >> > our countries, which Joash was referring to. But I would urge ISOC > >> > Cameroon to try to relate also to the global culture of individual > >> > rights, particularly in the age of the Internet. Then whatever you'll > >> > be able to accept as the right of any Cameroonian, should be the > >> > right of all Cameroonians without distinction of language, ethnicity, > >> > religion, political views or location, etc. > >> > > >> > And, addressing the government here, I personally can't even begin to > >> > understand what is so difficult to understand in the notion that > >> > being a bilingual country is an asset, an advantage rather than a > >> > threat or drawback. > >> > > >> > So yes, we get it, not the whole of Cameroon is cut off from the > >> > Internet. But no, that doesn't make it any more acceptable that > >> > "only" a couple of regions are targeted by what seems like a > >> > punishment for a "crime de lèse majesté". > >> > > >> > Now the question on our table here is what we, global civil society > >> > coalitions, can do about a situation like this. I recall working for a > >> > short while at APC on those universal periodic reviews (hope I'm not > >> > messing up with that heavily acronym based terminology) at the UN > >> > Human Rights Council, and Cameroon was up for review at some point. > >> > Has any progress been made since? Any other course of action to look > >> > into? > >> > > >> > Thanks, > >> > > >> > Mawaki > >> > > >> > > >> > On Jan 28, 2017 4:37 PM, "Mwendwa Kivuva" > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > It is quite unfortunate the situation in Cameroon, especially how > >> > people argue out human rights issues when the pinching shoe is on the > >> > neighbors leg, when their "enemy", imagined or real, is being > >> > persecuted. > >> > > >> > ______________________ > >> > Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya > >> > twitter.com/lordmwesh > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On 28 January 2017 at 18:19, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > > Dear All > >> > > > >> > > I am right here in Douala Cameroun. And when I read Janvier, I will > >> > > want many people to understand one thing. Mister Janvier is > >> > > francophone. To many francophones, rights belong to authorities and > >> > > not peoples . People must fear not respect authorities because the > >> > > said authorities have all powers (they call it in french (plein > >> > > pouvoirs) to do and undo on every citizen. > >> > > > >> > > To him, a Sous Prefet can ask for internet to be suspended in some > >> > > part of Cameroon, he is in his right as an authority. Currently, a > >> > > Supreme Court Atorney General, Mr Paul Ayah Abine is arrested and > >> > > is in detention without due process. The same is the case another > >> > > Magistrate in Buea who was arrested and ferried to Yaounde a day > >> > > ago. Their crime; for supporting the anglophone call for a > >> > > federation. > >> > > > >> > > To the likes of Janvier, it is the Government that gives liberty > >> > > (C'est le gouvernement qui donne la liberté in French) > >> > > > >> > > The civilized world must act against such egregious obscurantism > >> > > > >> > > Agien Nyangkwe > >> > > > >> > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Evelyn Namara > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> Dear all, > >> > >> > >> > >> As a person who has been on the side of the shutdown, it is not > >> > >> right and justifiable to shutdown the Internet, even for a few > >> > >> regions. Mr. Janvier, your comments in this email hit me so hard. > >> > >> As a person who has some level of authority, you should be > >> > >> concerned and fight for all rights of all citizens. > >> > >> > >> > >> The 6 million plus people who make up the 2 regions that are > >> > >> deprived of the Internet also matter. Everyone matters, and like > >> > >> the Internet Society always says "The Internet is for everybody". > >> > >> > >> > >> Let's all fight and make leaders accountable. > >> > >> > >> > >> I stand with the people of Cameroun. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Joash Moitui > >> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> Thank you all. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> This is a vital interesting topic. Having lived in Cameroon for 3 > >> > >>> years, I would say that the shutdown in these two region is no > >> > >>> different from shutdowns witnessed in Uganda and Gambia for > >> > >>> instance. It is simply the political elite using their political > >> > >>> influence to prevent the human rights violations calling for > >> > >>> federation in these areas. The two areas made up of Anglophones, > >> > >>> who have been marginalized largely because of their language and > >> > >>> their calls for federation have been met by internet shutdown and > >> > >>> full force of security agents. It is this that the Cameroon > >> > >>> government does not want to be easily distributed within the > >> > >>> social media. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Joash > >> > >>> > >> > >>> On 27 Jan 2017, at 10:56, Nonhlanhla Chanza > >> > >>> wrote: > >> > >>> > >> > >>> I still weep blood for those two regions. I have never been > >> > >>> convinced by the argument that there might be circumstances that > >> > >>> justifies a shutdown. So many places in turmoil and war in the > >> > >>> world but people have access still to the Internet. > >> > >>> On 26 Jan 2017 17:59, "Janvier NGNOULAYE" > >> > >>> wrote: > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> Hi to all, > >> > >>>> It seems to me that the problem of access to Internet in > >> > >>>> Cameroon is very much amplified here on the Net. There are 10 > >> > >>>> regions in Cameroon, the problem of access to the Internet is > >> > >>>> only concerning 2 Regions. These 2 regions actually has some > >> > >>>> political or social crisis. The government and other > >> > >>>> stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for suitable > >> > >>>> solutions. Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut these > >> > >>>> two regions of Internet access and Western Union money transfer > >> > >>>> services, for the sake of the entire population of these 2 > >> > >>>> regions. Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 > >> > >>>> regions. I'm sending this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. So the > >> > >>>> situation is not a disaster as some seem to publish on the Net. > >> > >>>> The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the government and the other > >> > >>>> stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even if it > >> > >>>> involves a temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union > >> > >>>> services. > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> ISOC Cameroon Chapter > >> > >>>> President > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> 2017-01-26 15:45 GMT+01:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro > >> > >>>> : > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>>> Hi > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> Indeed, this is a terrible situation, which can happen in any > >> > >>>>> country, which is why everyone should take action. > >> > >>>>> I'd think bringing in ISOC and other organizations will help > >> > >>>>> deepen these efforts. > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Deji Bryce Olukotun < > >> > >>>>> deji at accessnow.org> wrote: > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>>> Thank you, Arsène for the introduction and the summary. > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> Judith, as Arsène explained, the #KeepitOn coalition > >> > >>>>>> (111 organizations from 51 > >> > >>>>>> countries) is pushing back against the shutdown. Our efforts > >> > >>>>>> are being led by Julie Owono from Internet Without Borders > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> regional-internet-blackout-in-cameroon/> > >> > >>>>>> . > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> At present, we are fighting the shutdown in several ways: > >> > >>>>>> - open letter to government officials and agencies to restore > >> > >>>>>> access > >> > >>>>>> - media outreach > >> > >>>>>> - Tweet action at Cameroonian officials > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> 1921&ea.campaign.id=62870&ea.tracking.id=tile> > >> > >>>>>> (please support!) > >> > >>>>>> - outreach to telcos operating in the country, including a > >> > >>>>>> statement from the Global Network Initiative > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> restrictions-internet-access-cameroon> > >> > >>>>>> (Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Investors, academics) > >> > >>>>>> - outreach to international officials at the UN and AU > >> > >>>>>> - coordination with local groups in Cameroon > >> > >>>>>> - coordinating with CDN's and other measurement entities > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> We welcome any ideas or suggestions about how to get the > >> > >>>>>> internet turned back on. With each passing day, people are at > >> > >>>>>> increased risk of human rights violations and the economy is > >> > >>>>>> losing money. We'll reach out to ISOC to coordinate as well. > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> Best, > >> > >>>>>> Deji > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:44 AM, Arsène Tungali < > >> > >>>>>> arsenebaguma at gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> Hi Judith, > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> Thanks for sharing this with us. What's going on in Cameroon > >> > >>>>>>> is just a shame. For colleagues who have never experienced > >> > >>>>>>> Internet shutdown, please understand that it is a nightmare. > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> On this note about Cameroon, several organizations including > >> > >>>>>>> Access Now and Internet Without Borders > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> regional-internet-blackout-in-cameroon/>are > >> > >>>>>>> doing a lot of advocacy and statements > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> 1921&ea.campaign.id=62870&ea.tracking.id=Email&ea.url.id=836199>, > >> > >>>>>>> letters have been sent to officials in Cameroon to ask them > >> > >>>>>>> to bring back the Internet. A hashtag about this has been > >> > >>>>>>> started and you can take action as well: > >> > >>>>>>> #BringBackkOutInternet > >> > >>>>>>> . > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> You can learn more about the #KeepItOn > >> > >>>>>>> campaign here > >> > >>>>>>> . > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> Eduard Snowden sent in a tweet > >> > >>>>>>> where > >> > >>>>>>> he said: "*This is the future of repression. If we do not > >> > >>>>>>> fight it there, it will happen here*" and I cannot agree more > >> > >>>>>>> with him because it is just going from one country to > >> > >>>>>>> another. Over 8 countries in Africa, including mine the DRC, > >> > >>>>>>> have experienced shutdown and no one knows who is next. Acces > >> > >>>>>>> Now has reported 15 > >> > >>>>>>> Internet shutdowns across the world in 2015 and 56 in 2016 > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> If there is any question about all the statements and > >> > >>>>>>> campaigns, I am happy to help or convey your questions since > >> > >>>>>>> I am involved, on a personal capacity, in these movements > >> > >>>>>>> advocating and fighting Internet shutdowns across Africa. > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> Regards, > >> > >>>>>>> Arsene > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> PS: Copied is Deji Olukotun who works on Advocacy for Access > >> > >>>>>>> Now. > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> ------------------------ > >> > >>>>>>> **Arsène Tungali** > >> > >>>>>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > >> > >>>>>>> *, > >> > >>>>>>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, > >> > >>>>>>> *Mabingwa Forum * > >> > >>>>>>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> > >> > >>>>>>> GPG: 523644A0 > >> > >>>>>>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> mandela-washington.html> > >> > >>>>>>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf- > ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors> > >> > >>>>>>> & Mexico > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>) > >> > >>>>>>> - AFRISIG 2016 > >> > >>>>>>> - Blogger > >> > >>>>>>> - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > >> > >>>>>>> & > >> > >>>>>>> Marrakech > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> attendees-2016-03-14-en> > >> > >>>>>>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> fellowship-winners> > >> > >>>>>>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The > >> > >>>>>>> HuffingtonPost UK > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> 2017-01-26 5:34 GMT+02:00 Judith Hellerstein < > >> > >>>>>>> judith at jhellerstein.com>: > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> HI All, > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> Just passing on a note from Mafor Edwan of ISOC Cameroon > >> > >>>>>>>> about the Cameroonian Government shut down of the Internet > >> > >>>>>>>> in his country. > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> I am at a loss for words of yet another country that has cut > >> > >>>>>>>> off Internet Access for its citizens. Thanks to ISOC > >> > >>>>>>>> Cameroon for all their efforts to resolve this crisis, even > >> > >>>>>>>> though they have not been successful, I am glad that they > >> > >>>>>>>> have tried. I am a passionate believer in an open Internet. > >> > >>>>>>>> One that is available to all. By connecting the world, > >> > >>>>>>>> working with others, and advocating for equal access to the > >> > >>>>>>>> Internet, We can make the world a better place. Edwan hopes > >> > >>>>>>>> people can share this word about this and hopefully some one > >> > >>>>>>>> can reach the President and tell him what a bad idea this > >> > >>>>>>>> is. I told him I would share it around. Hope others can do > >> > >>>>>>>> the same > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> Best, > >> > >>>>>>>> Judith > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________ > _____________ > >> > >>>>>>>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO > >> > >>>>>>>> Hellerstein & Associates > >> > >>>>>>>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 > >> > >>>>>>>> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein > >> > >>>>>>>> E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com Website: > >> > >>>>>>>> www.jhellerstein.com Linked In: > >> > >>>>>>>> www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ Opening Telecom & > >> > >>>>>>>> Technology Opportunities Worldwide > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- > >> > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] FYI- Constance's blog post > >> > >>>>>>>> about the G20 - and the updated Internet Governance timeline > >> > >>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:49:53 -0500 > >> > >>>>>>>> From: Queen Mother > >> > >>>>>>>> To: Dan York > >> > >>>>>>>> CC: ISOC Chapter Delegates > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> , Carl Gahnberg > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> Good evening Fellow ISOC Delegates, > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> I bring you sad news about the state of internet access in > >> > >>>>>>>> my home country Cameroon. > >> > >>>>>>>> I have sobbed uncontrollably for weeks as the govt of my > >> > >>>>>>>> country tortures and mimes her citizens and recently has cut > >> > >>>>>>>> off the ability to send financial support to our families > >> > >>>>>>>> through western union and has now cut off the internet. > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> Please if you can read the articles below. > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> Cameroon Cuts Internet in English-speaking Regions > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> english-speaking-regions/3682688.html> > >> > >>>>>>>> http://www.voanews.com/a/cameroon-cuts-internet-in-english-s > >> > >>>>>>>> peaking-regions/3682688.html > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> How Cameroon pressured mobile operators to shut down the > >> > >>>>>>>> internet and stifle dissent > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> other-operators-to-shut-down-internet-in-bamenda-buea-regions/> > >> > >>>>>>>> https://qz.com/893401/cameroon-pressured-mtn-and- > other-opera > >> > >>>>>>>> tors-to-shut-down-internet-in-bamenda-buea-regions/ > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> Thank you. > >> > >>>>>>>> Mafor edwan > >> > >>>>>>>> Vice President #2 > >> > >>>>>>>> ISOC Cameroon > >> > >> > >> ____________________________________________________________ > >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org > >> To be removed from the list, visit: > >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > >> > >> For all other list information and functions, see: > >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ > >> > >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > >> > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > To be removed from the list, visit: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nb at bollow.ch Sun Jan 29 19:25:25 2017 From: nb at bollow.ch (Norbert Bollow) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 01:25:25 +0100 Subject: [governance] Proposal for IGC to formally respond to "Please Cameroon did not shut down the Internet !!!" In-Reply-To: <715e94b2d2c044eebef845495c094a5e@EX13-MBX-07.ad.syr.edu> References: <4B4986C9-C64C-4F29-92FB-2A16DBF968A5@gmail.com> <20170129234250.0148a4d5@quill> <715e94b2d2c044eebef845495c094a5e@EX13-MBX-07.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: <20170130012525.69cea232@quill> The reasons why I suggested a letter to ISOC Cameroon Chapter rather than the government of Cameroon are: 1) There was a posting from the president of ISOC Cameroon Chapter here on the list to which I think that an official and clear reaction would be appropriate. 2) I think that any attempts from IGC to directly influence the actions of the government of Cameroon are likely to be totally ineffective. By contrast, and especially in view of the stance taken by Mafor Edwan (a vice president of ISOC Cameroon Chapter), from my outsider's perspective I think that the chances are intact that a letter from IGC to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter would be discussed and considered there. And I would expect it to have much greater impact on the actions of the government of Cameroon than any views of foreigners if the Cameroon Chapter of ISOC takes a clear stance. Concerning the question regarding whether IGC can send such a letter, here is a precedent which shows quite concretely that an IGC statement can take the form of a letter addressed to a particular actor in a particular country: http://igcaucus.org/letter-international-civil-society-organizations-president-dilma-rousseff-support-her-statement-68th In that case, we had the good fortune of having the opportunity that the letter could be hand-delivered by an IGC member (picture of Carlos A. Afonso delivering the letter: http://igcaucus.org/upload/letter_delivery_2013-09-27.jpg ). Greetings, Norbert On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 22:58:20 +0000 Lee W McKnight wrote: > Salanieta, > > I respectfully disagree; we/IGC can ‘speak’ to whoever we want to > speak to. > > Releasing a statement addressed to them/about them amounts to the > same thing in any case. Whether ISOC Cameroon will listen is another > matter. > > Whether it is best for IGC to address ISOC Cameroon, or the > government of Cameroon, or…is there a third suggestion? is also > another matter. > > I vaguely recall IGC doing something at the time of the Egyptian > Internet shut-down; but each circumstance is different so I defer to > folks closer to the scene to suggest what might make sense in this > case. > > To ne clear I support Norbert’s suggestion of a statement from IGC; > who it is specifically addressed to we may wish to debate further, > along with wording. > > Lee McKnight > > > > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org > [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Salanieta > T. Tamanikaiwaimaro Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 5:49 PM To: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Norbert Bollow Subject: > Re: [governance] Proposal for IGC to formally respond to "Please > Cameroon did not shut down the Internet !!!" > > > We do not have jurisdiction or locus to speak to Cameroon's local > ISOC chapter. We can if there is consensus.put out a statement > though. On 30/01/2017 11:43, "Norbert Bollow" > > wrote: (Cc list trimmed) > > Being fully in agreement with the points that have been made very > eloquently in regard to this issue by multiple people including > Milton and Mawaki, and being apalled by the stance which the current > president of ISOC Cameroon Chapter seems to have taken, I wonder > whether it might make sense for IGC to issue a statement in the form > of a letter to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter, in which we would urge the > ISOC Cameroon Chapter to adopt a clear stance that regional Internet > shutdowns are not acceptable in regard to any region and not > justifiable in any way. > > Greetings, > Norbert > > > On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 17:57:51 +0000 > Mawaki Chango > wrote: > > > Thanks all trying to report out of Cameroon. > > > > Like others, I was struck by the implications from Janvier's > > reporting, or rather his attempt at a "mise au point" which > > completely missed the mark, I'm sorry. > > > > Government is blocking Internet access only in 2 regions out of 8, > > so the situation is not that bad as the whole Cameroon being > > shutdown and we should chill? > > > > Oh, and money remittance operations to those 2 regions are also > > suspended, but not a big deal really? > > > > And you say that's done by the government for the sake of the whole > > population in those 2 regions? How's that? We just need to swallow > > that assertion made by you or the government and keep moving, > > nothing to see here? > > > > Interesting enough, the other 6 regions don't need that security and > > safety which is supposed to be found in shutting down the Internet > > (do you really think if there was a real terrorism threat from a > > section of the population accessing the Internet, that threat will > > go away by maintaining access only for their neighbors?) It's all > > in the (government) motivation, isn't it? If one cannot question > > the actual government's motivation in taking such extreme measures > > then it's going to be hard to come to a consensus on lasting > > peaceful solutions. > > > > I myself was born francophone and still a national of the same > > African francophone country of birth, and I can relate to that > > notion of "pleins pouvoirs"-- not to say "pouvoir absolu"-- found > > in some of our countries, which Joash was referring to. But I would > > urge ISOC Cameroon to try to relate also to the global culture of > > individual rights, particularly in the age of the Internet. Then > > whatever you'll be able to accept as the right of any Cameroonian, > > should be the right of all Cameroonians without distinction of > > language, ethnicity, religion, political views or location, etc. > > > > And, addressing the government here, I personally can't even begin > > to understand what is so difficult to understand in the notion that > > being a bilingual country is an asset, an advantage rather than a > > threat or drawback. > > > > So yes, we get it, not the whole of Cameroon is cut off from the > > Internet. But no, that doesn't make it any more acceptable that > > "only" a couple of regions are targeted by what seems like a > > punishment for a "crime de lèse majesté". > > > > Now the question on our table here is what we, global civil society > > coalitions, can do about a situation like this. I recall working > > for a short while at APC on those universal periodic reviews (hope > > I'm not messing up with that heavily acronym based terminology) at > > the UN Human Rights Council, and Cameroon was up for review at some > > point. Has any progress been made since? Any other course of action > > to look into? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mawaki > > > > > > On Jan 28, 2017 4:37 PM, "Mwendwa Kivuva" > > > > > wrote: > > > > It is quite unfortunate the situation in Cameroon, especially how > > people argue out human rights issues when the pinching shoe is on > > the neighbors leg, when their "enemy", imagined or real, is being > > persecuted. > > > > ______________________ > > Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya > > twitter.com/lordmwesh > > > > > > > > On 28 January 2017 at 18:19, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron > > > wrote: > > > > > Dear All > > > > > > I am right here in Douala Cameroun. And when I read Janvier, I > > > will want many people to understand one thing. Mister Janvier is > > > francophone. To many francophones, rights belong to authorities > > > and not peoples . People must fear not respect authorities > > > because the said authorities have all powers (they call it in > > > french (plein pouvoirs) to do and undo on every citizen. > > > > > > To him, a Sous Prefet can ask for internet to be suspended in some > > > part of Cameroon, he is in his right as an authority. Currently, a > > > Supreme Court Atorney General, Mr Paul Ayah Abine is arrested and > > > is in detention without due process. The same is the case another > > > Magistrate in Buea who was arrested and ferried to Yaounde a day > > > ago. Their crime; for supporting the anglophone call for a > > > federation. > > > > > > To the likes of Janvier, it is the Government that gives liberty > > > (C'est le gouvernement qui donne la liberté in French) > > > > > > The civilized world must act against such egregious obscurantism > > > > > > Agien Nyangkwe > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Evelyn Namara > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Dear all, > > >> > > >> As a person who has been on the side of the shutdown, it is not > > >> right and justifiable to shutdown the Internet, even for a few > > >> regions. Mr. Janvier, your comments in this email hit me so hard. > > >> As a person who has some level of authority, you should be > > >> concerned and fight for all rights of all citizens. > > >> > > >> The 6 million plus people who make up the 2 regions that are > > >> deprived of the Internet also matter. Everyone matters, and like > > >> the Internet Society always says "The Internet is for everybody". > > >> > > >> Let's all fight and make leaders accountable. > > >> > > >> I stand with the people of Cameroun. > > >> > > >> > > >> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Joash Moitui > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > >>> Thank you all. > > >>> > > >>> This is a vital interesting topic. Having lived in Cameroon for > > >>> 3 years, I would say that the shutdown in these two region is no > > >>> different from shutdowns witnessed in Uganda and Gambia for > > >>> instance. It is simply the political elite using their political > > >>> influence to prevent the human rights violations calling for > > >>> federation in these areas. The two areas made up of Anglophones, > > >>> who have been marginalized largely because of their language and > > >>> their calls for federation have been met by internet shutdown > > >>> and full force of security agents. It is this that the Cameroon > > >>> government does not want to be easily distributed within the > > >>> social media. > > >>> > > >>> Joash > > >>> > > >>> On 27 Jan 2017, at 10:56, Nonhlanhla Chanza > > >>> > > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> I still weep blood for those two regions. I have never been > > >>> convinced by the argument that there might be circumstances that > > >>> justifies a shutdown. So many places in turmoil and war in the > > >>> world but people have access still to the Internet. > > >>> On 26 Jan 2017 17:59, "Janvier NGNOULAYE" > > >>> > wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Hi to all, > > >>>> It seems to me that the problem of access to Internet in > > >>>> Cameroon is very much amplified here on the Net. There are 10 > > >>>> regions in Cameroon, the problem of access to the Internet is > > >>>> only concerning 2 Regions. These 2 regions actually has some > > >>>> political or social crisis. The government and other > > >>>> stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for suitable > > >>>> solutions. Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut these > > >>>> two regions of Internet access and Western Union money transfer > > >>>> services, for the sake of the entire population of these 2 > > >>>> regions. Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 > > >>>> regions. I'm sending this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. So the > > >>>> situation is not a disaster as some seem to publish on the Net. > > >>>> The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the government and the > > >>>> other stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even if it > > >>>> involves a temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union > > >>>> services. > > >>>> > > >>>> ISOC Cameroon Chapter > > >>>> President > > >>>> > > >>>> 2017-01-26 15:45 GMT+01:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro > > >>>> >: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Hi > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Indeed, this is a terrible situation, which can happen in any > > >>>>> country, which is why everyone should take action. > > >>>>> I'd think bringing in ISOC and other organizations will help > > >>>>> deepen these efforts. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Deji Bryce Olukotun < > > >>>>> deji at accessnow.org> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> Thank you, Arsène for the introduction and the summary. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Judith, as Arsène explained, the #KeepitOn coalition > > >>>>>> (111 organizations from 51 > > >>>>>> countries) is pushing back against the shutdown. Our efforts > > >>>>>> are being led by Julie Owono from Internet Without Borders > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> . > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> At present, we are fighting the shutdown in several ways: > > >>>>>> - open letter to government officials and agencies to restore > > >>>>>> access > > >>>>>> - media outreach > > >>>>>> - Tweet action at Cameroonian officials > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> (please support!) > > >>>>>> - outreach to telcos operating in the country, including a > > >>>>>> statement from the Global Network Initiative > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> (Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Investors, academics) > > >>>>>> - outreach to international officials at the UN and AU > > >>>>>> - coordination with local groups in Cameroon > > >>>>>> - coordinating with CDN's and other measurement entities > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> We welcome any ideas or suggestions about how to get the > > >>>>>> internet turned back on. With each passing day, people are at > > >>>>>> increased risk of human rights violations and the economy is > > >>>>>> losing money. We'll reach out to ISOC to coordinate as well. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Best, > > >>>>>> Deji > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:44 AM, Arsène Tungali < > > >>>>>> arsenebaguma at gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Hi Judith, > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Thanks for sharing this with us. What's going on in Cameroon > > >>>>>>> is just a shame. For colleagues who have never experienced > > >>>>>>> Internet shutdown, please understand that it is a nightmare. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On this note about Cameroon, several organizations including > > >>>>>>> Access Now and Internet Without Borders > > >>>>>>> are > > >>>>>>> doing a lot of advocacy and statements > > >>>>>>> , > > >>>>>>> letters have been sent to officials in Cameroon to ask them > > >>>>>>> to bring back the Internet. A hashtag about this has been > > >>>>>>> started and you can take action as well: > > >>>>>>> #BringBackkOutInternet > > >>>>>>> . > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> You can learn more about the #KeepItOn > > >>>>>>> campaign > > >>>>>>> here . > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Eduard Snowden sent in a tweet > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> where he said: "*This is the future of repression. If we do > > >>>>>>> not fight it there, it will happen here*" and I cannot > > >>>>>>> agree more with him because it is just going from one > > >>>>>>> country to another. Over 8 countries in Africa, including > > >>>>>>> mine the DRC, have experienced shutdown and no one knows > > >>>>>>> who is next. Acces Now has reported > > >>>>>>> 15 Internet shutdowns > > >>>>>>> across the world in 2015 and 56 in 2016 > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> If there is any question about all the statements and > > >>>>>>> campaigns, I am happy to help or convey your questions since > > >>>>>>> I am involved, on a personal capacity, in these movements > > >>>>>>> advocating and fighting Internet shutdowns across Africa. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Regards, > > >>>>>>> Arsene > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> PS: Copied is Deji Olukotun who works on Advocacy for Access > > >>>>>>> Now. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> ------------------------ > > >>>>>>> **Arsène Tungali** > > >>>>>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > > >>>>>>> *, > > >>>>>>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, > > >>>>>>> *Mabingwa Forum * > > >>>>>>> Tel: +243 993810967 > > >>>>>>> <+243%20993%20810%20967> GPG: 523644A0 > > >>>>>>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> & Mexico > > >>>>>>> ) > > >>>>>>> - AFRISIG 2016 > > >>>>>>> - Blogger > > >>>>>>> - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > > >>>>>>> & > > >>>>>>> Marrakech > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The > > >>>>>>> HuffingtonPost UK > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> 2017-01-26 5:34 GMT+02:00 Judith Hellerstein < > > >>>>>>> judith at jhellerstein.com>: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> HI All, > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Just passing on a note from Mafor Edwan of ISOC Cameroon > > >>>>>>>> about the Cameroonian Government shut down of the Internet > > >>>>>>>> in his country. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> I am at a loss for words of yet another country that has > > >>>>>>>> cut off Internet Access for its citizens. Thanks to ISOC > > >>>>>>>> Cameroon for all their efforts to resolve this crisis, even > > >>>>>>>> though they have not been successful, I am glad that they > > >>>>>>>> have tried. I am a passionate believer in an open Internet. > > >>>>>>>> One that is available to all. By connecting the world, > > >>>>>>>> working with others, and advocating for equal access to the > > >>>>>>>> Internet, We can make the world a better place. Edwan hopes > > >>>>>>>> people can share this word about this and hopefully some > > >>>>>>>> one can reach the President and tell him what a bad idea > > >>>>>>>> this is. I told him I would share it around. Hope others > > >>>>>>>> can do the same > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Best, > > >>>>>>>> Judith > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________________ > > >>>>>>>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO > > >>>>>>>> Hellerstein & Associates > > >>>>>>>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 > > >>>>>>>> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein > > >>>>>>>> E-mail: > > >>>>>>>> Judith at jhellerstein.com > > >>>>>>>> Website: www.jhellerstein.com > > >>>>>>>> Linked In: > > >>>>>>>> www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ > > >>>>>>>> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] FYI- Constance's blog post > > >>>>>>>> about the G20 - and the updated Internet Governance > > >>>>>>>> timeline Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:49:53 -0500 > > >>>>>>>> From: Queen Mother > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > To: Dan > > >>>>>>>> York > > > >>>>>>>> > CC: ISOC Chapter > > >>>>>>>> Delegates > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> >, > > >>>>>>>> Carl Gahnberg > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Good evening Fellow ISOC Delegates, > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> I bring you sad news about the state of internet access in > > >>>>>>>> my home country Cameroon. > > >>>>>>>> I have sobbed uncontrollably for weeks as the govt of my > > >>>>>>>> country tortures and mimes her citizens and recently has > > >>>>>>>> cut off the ability to send financial support to our > > >>>>>>>> families through western union and has now cut off the > > >>>>>>>> internet. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Please if you can read the articles below. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Cameroon Cuts Internet in English-speaking Regions > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> http://www.voanews.com/a/cameroon-cuts-internet-in-english-s > > >>>>>>>> peaking-regions/3682688.html > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> How Cameroon pressured mobile operators to shut down the > > >>>>>>>> internet and stifle dissent > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> https://qz.com/893401/cameroon-pressured-mtn-and-other-opera > > >>>>>>>> tors-to-shut-down-internet-in-bamenda-buea-regions/ > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Thank you. > > >>>>>>>> Mafor edwan > > >>>>>>>> Vice President #2 > > >>>>>>>> ISOC Cameroon -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ymshana2003 at gmail.com Sun Jan 29 20:51:19 2017 From: ymshana2003 at gmail.com (ymshana2003) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 07:51:19 +0600 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Please Cameroon did not shut down the Internet !!! Message-ID: ....and ...now we see 'What happens when politics are allowed in the governance of the Internet'. Let us see what people sit in the GAC say about such 'action' if it is politically motivated. This is just my eecollection of what was discussed during the Global Internet Policy development process a few years ago. Kind regards Mshana Sent from Samsung Mobile -------- Original message -------- From: Mawaki Chango Date:29/01/2017 23:57 (GMT+06:00) To: Internet Governance ,Kivuva ,"Bits bestbits at lists.bestbits.net" Cc: Nyangkwe Agien Aaron ,Evelyn Namara ,jnoulaye at gmail.com, joash.moitui at gmail.com Subject: Re: [governance] [bestbits] Please Cameroon did not shut down the Internet !!! Thanks all trying to report out of Cameroon.  Like others, I was struck by the implications from Janvier's reporting, or rather his attempt at a "mise au point" which completely missed the mark, I'm sorry.  Government is blocking Internet access only in 2 regions out of 8, so the situation is not that bad as the whole Cameroon being shutdown and we should chill?  Oh, and money remittance operations to those 2 regions are also suspended, but not a big deal really?   And you say that's done by the government for the sake of the whole population in those 2 regions? How's that? We just need to swallow that assertion made by you or the government and keep moving, nothing to see here?  Interesting enough, the other 6 regions don't need that security and safety which is supposed to be found in shutting down the Internet (do you really think if there was a real terrorism threat from a section of the population accessing the Internet, that threat will go away by maintaining access only for their neighbors?) It's all in the (government)  motivation, isn't it? If one cannot question the actual government's motivation in taking such extreme measures then it's going to be hard to come to a consensus on lasting peaceful solutions.  I myself was born francophone and still a national of the same African francophone country of birth, and I can relate to that notion of "pleins pouvoirs"-- not to say  "pouvoir absolu"-- found in some of our countries, which Joash was referring to. But I would urge ISOC Cameroon to try to relate also to the global culture of individual rights, particularly in the age of the Internet. Then whatever you'll be able to accept as the right of any Cameroonian, should be the right of all Cameroonians without distinction of language, ethnicity, religion, political views or location, etc.  And, addressing the government here, I personally can't even begin to understand what is so difficult to understand in the notion that being a bilingual country is an asset, an advantage rather than a threat or drawback.  So yes, we get it, not the whole of Cameroon is cut off from the Internet. But no, that doesn't make it any more acceptable that "only" a couple of regions are targeted by what seems like a punishment for a "crime de lèse majesté".  Now the question on our table here is what we, global civil society coalitions, can do about a situation like this. I recall working for a short while at APC on those universal periodic reviews (hope I'm not messing up with that heavily acronym based terminology) at the UN Human Rights Council, and Cameroon was up for review at some point. Has any progress been made since? Any other course of action to look into?  Thanks,  Mawaki  On Jan 28, 2017 4:37 PM, "Mwendwa Kivuva" wrote: It is quite unfortunate the situation in Cameroon, especially how people argue out human rights issues when the pinching shoe is on the neighbors leg, when their "enemy", imagined or real, is being persecuted. ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh On 28 January 2017 at 18:19, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron wrote: Dear All I am right here in Douala Cameroun. And when I read Janvier, I will want many people to understand one thing. Mister Janvier is francophone. To many francophones, rights belong to authorities and not peoples . People must fear not respect authorities because the said authorities have all powers (they call it in french (plein pouvoirs) to do and undo on every citizen. To him, a Sous Prefet can ask for internet to be suspended in some part of Cameroon, he is in his right as an authority. Currently, a Supreme Court Atorney General, Mr Paul Ayah Abine is arrested and is in detention without due process. The same is the case another Magistrate in Buea who was arrested and ferried to Yaounde a day ago. Their crime; for supporting the anglophone call for a federation. To the likes of Janvier, it is the Government that gives liberty (C'est le gouvernement qui donne la liberté in French) The civilized world must act against such egregious obscurantism Agien Nyangkwe  On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Evelyn Namara wrote: Dear all, As a person who has been on the side of the shutdown, it is not right and justifiable to shutdown the Internet, even for a few regions. Mr. Janvier, your comments in this email hit me so hard. As a person who has some level of authority, you should be concerned and fight for all rights of all citizens. The 6 million plus people who make up the 2 regions that are deprived of the Internet also matter. Everyone matters, and like the Internet Society always says "The Internet is for everybody". Let's all fight and make leaders accountable. I stand with the people of Cameroun. On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Joash Moitui wrote: Thank you all. This is a vital interesting topic. Having lived in Cameroon for 3 years, I would say that the shutdown in these two region is no different from shutdowns witnessed in Uganda and Gambia for instance. It is simply the political elite using their political influence to prevent the human rights violations calling for federation in these areas. The two areas made up of Anglophones, who have been marginalized largely because of their language and their calls for federation have been met by internet shutdown and full force of security agents. It is this that the Cameroon government does not want to be easily distributed within the social media.  Joash On 27 Jan 2017, at 10:56, Nonhlanhla Chanza wrote: I still weep blood for those two regions. I have never been convinced by the argument that there might be circumstances that justifies a shutdown. So many places in turmoil and war in the world but people have access still to the Internet.  On 26 Jan 2017 17:59, "Janvier NGNOULAYE" wrote: Hi to all, It seems to me that the problem of access to Internet in Cameroon is very much amplified here on the Net. There are 10 regions in Cameroon, the problem of access to the Internet is only concerning 2 Regions. These 2 regions actually has some political or social crisis. The government and other stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for suitable solutions. Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut these two regions of Internet access and Western Union money transfer services, for the sake of the entire population of these 2 regions. Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 regions. I'm sending this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. So the situation is not a disaster as some seem to publish on the Net.  The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the government and the other stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even if it involves a temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union services. ISOC Cameroon Chapter President 2017-01-26 15:45 GMT+01:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro : Hi Indeed, this is a terrible situation, which can happen in any country, which is why everyone should take action.  I'd think bringing in ISOC and other organizations will help deepen these efforts. On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Deji Bryce Olukotun wrote: Thank you, Arsène for the introduction and the summary.  Judith, as Arsène explained, the #KeepitOn coalition (111 organizations from 51 countries) is pushing back against the shutdown. Our efforts are being led by Julie Owono from Internet Without Borders. At present, we are fighting the shutdown in several ways: - open letter to government officials and agencies to restore access - media outreach - Tweet action at Cameroonian officials (please support!) - outreach to telcos operating in the country, including a statement from the Global Network Initiative (Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Investors, academics) - outreach to international officials at the UN and AU - coordination with local groups in Cameroon - coordinating with CDN's and other measurement entities We welcome any ideas or suggestions about how to get the internet turned back on. With each passing day, people are at increased risk of human rights violations and the economy is losing money. We'll reach out to ISOC to coordinate as well. Best, Deji On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:44 AM, Arsène Tungali wrote: Hi Judith, Thanks for sharing this with us. What's going on in Cameroon is just a shame. For colleagues who have never experienced Internet shutdown, please understand that it is a nightmare. On this note about Cameroon, several organizations including Access Now and Internet Without Borders are doing a lot of advocacy and statements, letters have been sent to officials in Cameroon to ask them to bring back the Internet. A hashtag about this has been started and you can take action as well: #BringBackkOutInternet. You can learn more about the #KeepItOn campaign here. Eduard Snowden sent in a tweet where he said: "This is the future of repression. If we do not fight it there, it will happen here" and I cannot agree more with him because it is just going from one country to another. Over 8 countries in Africa, including mine the DRC, have experienced shutdown and no one knows who is next. Acces Now has reported 15 Internet shutdowns across the world in 2015 and 56 in 2016 If there is any question about all the statements and campaigns, I am happy to help or convey your questions since I am involved, on a personal capacity, in these movements advocating and fighting Internet shutdowns across Africa. Regards, Arsene PS: Copied is Deji Olukotun who works on Advocacy for Access Now. ------------------------ *Arsène Tungali* Co-Founder & Executive Director, Rudi international, CEO, Smart Services Sarl, Mabingwa Forum Tel: +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico) - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius) - IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK 2017-01-26 5:34 GMT+02:00 Judith Hellerstein : HI All, Just passing on a note from Mafor Edwan of ISOC Cameroon about the Cameroonian Government shut down of the Internet in his country.  I am at a loss for words of yet another country that has cut off Internet Access for its citizens. Thanks to ISOC Cameroon for all their efforts to resolve this crisis, even though they have not been successful, I am glad that they have tried. I am a passionate believer in an open Internet. One that is available to all. By connecting the world, working with others, and advocating for equal access to the Internet, We can make the world a better place. Edwan hopes people can share this word about this and hopefully some one can reach the President and tell him what a bad idea this is. I told him I would share it around. 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In-Reply-To: <20170130012525.69cea232@quill> References: <4B4986C9-C64C-4F29-92FB-2A16DBF968A5@gmail.com><20170129234250.0148a4d5@quill><715e94b2d2c044eebef845495c094a5e@EX13-MBX-07.ad.syr.edu> <20170130012525.69cea232@quill> Message-ID: <28812691796D48D180561D501DE69136@LAPTOP93L8QKEK> I think a letter might be useful. But to me the questions go a little further, and to the very heart of what ISOC (and the rest of us) believe in the context of what is likely to be common events in the age of cyberwarfare. Here is what I just wrote to the ISOC Internet policy list. (BEGIN QUOTE FROM ISOC LIST POSTING) The recent correspondence here with the Cameroon chapter of ISOC raises some questions for me, and I wonder if someone could clarify for me: Are applications to become ISOC chapters vetted in any way – are certain criteria applied? Are ISOC chapters formally informed about and expected to uphold key principles such as “The Internet is for Everyone?” If not, perhaps it is time to tighten requirements so that embarrassing events do not occur where ISOC chapters appear to be able to speak for the internet community in supporting nation state actions against minorities or other nation states?. I realise there is some difficult territory here. How many of us, for instance, would support actions by our government against (insert the name of your nation state's current no 1 enemy here) which included action to curtail internet access for its citizens? I raise this because I think the principle here is universal and goes beyond national interests – nobody should be denied access to the internet for any political purposes by any political power – ever. That is the stand I would like to see the Internet Society take. And it would be great to see its chapters knowing that it is expected of them to take such stances when such events occur. But if the principle of “the Internet is for Everyone” is something we believe can be denied for political purposes under some circumstances, shouldn't we be less critical of the Cameroon chapter stance? Hoping for a strong stance here! Ian Peter (END QUOTE) -----Original Message----- From: Norbert Bollow Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 11:25 AM To: IGC Subject: Re: [governance] Proposal for IGC to formally respond to "Please Cameroon did not shut down the Internet !!!" The reasons why I suggested a letter to ISOC Cameroon Chapter rather than the government of Cameroon are: 1) There was a posting from the president of ISOC Cameroon Chapter here on the list to which I think that an official and clear reaction would be appropriate. 2) I think that any attempts from IGC to directly influence the actions of the government of Cameroon are likely to be totally ineffective. By contrast, and especially in view of the stance taken by Mafor Edwan (a vice president of ISOC Cameroon Chapter), from my outsider's perspective I think that the chances are intact that a letter from IGC to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter would be discussed and considered there. And I would expect it to have much greater impact on the actions of the government of Cameroon than any views of foreigners if the Cameroon Chapter of ISOC takes a clear stance. Concerning the question regarding whether IGC can send such a letter, here is a precedent which shows quite concretely that an IGC statement can take the form of a letter addressed to a particular actor in a particular country: http://igcaucus.org/letter-international-civil-society-organizations-president-dilma-rousseff-support-her-statement-68th In that case, we had the good fortune of having the opportunity that the letter could be hand-delivered by an IGC member (picture of Carlos A. Afonso delivering the letter: http://igcaucus.org/upload/letter_delivery_2013-09-27.jpg ). Greetings, Norbert On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 22:58:20 +0000 Lee W McKnight wrote: > Salanieta, > > I respectfully disagree; we/IGC can ‘speak’ to whoever we want to > speak to. > > Releasing a statement addressed to them/about them amounts to the > same thing in any case. Whether ISOC Cameroon will listen is another > matter. > > Whether it is best for IGC to address ISOC Cameroon, or the > government of Cameroon, or…is there a third suggestion? is also > another matter. > > I vaguely recall IGC doing something at the time of the Egyptian > Internet shut-down; but each circumstance is different so I defer to > folks closer to the scene to suggest what might make sense in this > case. > > To ne clear I support Norbert’s suggestion of a statement from IGC; > who it is specifically addressed to we may wish to debate further, > along with wording. > > Lee McKnight > > > > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org > [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Salanieta > T. Tamanikaiwaimaro Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 5:49 PM To: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Norbert Bollow Subject: > Re: [governance] Proposal for IGC to formally respond to "Please > Cameroon did not shut down the Internet !!!" > > > We do not have jurisdiction or locus to speak to Cameroon's local > ISOC chapter. We can if there is consensus.put out a statement > though. On 30/01/2017 11:43, "Norbert Bollow" > > wrote: (Cc list trimmed) > > Being fully in agreement with the points that have been made very > eloquently in regard to this issue by multiple people including > Milton and Mawaki, and being apalled by the stance which the current > president of ISOC Cameroon Chapter seems to have taken, I wonder > whether it might make sense for IGC to issue a statement in the form > of a letter to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter, in which we would urge the > ISOC Cameroon Chapter to adopt a clear stance that regional Internet > shutdowns are not acceptable in regard to any region and not > justifiable in any way. > > Greetings, > Norbert > > > On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 17:57:51 +0000 > Mawaki Chango > wrote: > > > Thanks all trying to report out of Cameroon. > > > > Like others, I was struck by the implications from Janvier's > > reporting, or rather his attempt at a "mise au point" which > > completely missed the mark, I'm sorry. > > > > Government is blocking Internet access only in 2 regions out of 8, > > so the situation is not that bad as the whole Cameroon being > > shutdown and we should chill? > > > > Oh, and money remittance operations to those 2 regions are also > > suspended, but not a big deal really? > > > > And you say that's done by the government for the sake of the whole > > population in those 2 regions? How's that? We just need to swallow > > that assertion made by you or the government and keep moving, > > nothing to see here? > > > > Interesting enough, the other 6 regions don't need that security and > > safety which is supposed to be found in shutting down the Internet > > (do you really think if there was a real terrorism threat from a > > section of the population accessing the Internet, that threat will > > go away by maintaining access only for their neighbors?) It's all > > in the (government) motivation, isn't it? If one cannot question > > the actual government's motivation in taking such extreme measures > > then it's going to be hard to come to a consensus on lasting > > peaceful solutions. > > > > I myself was born francophone and still a national of the same > > African francophone country of birth, and I can relate to that > > notion of "pleins pouvoirs"-- not to say "pouvoir absolu"-- found > > in some of our countries, which Joash was referring to. But I would > > urge ISOC Cameroon to try to relate also to the global culture of > > individual rights, particularly in the age of the Internet. Then > > whatever you'll be able to accept as the right of any Cameroonian, > > should be the right of all Cameroonians without distinction of > > language, ethnicity, religion, political views or location, etc. > > > > And, addressing the government here, I personally can't even begin > > to understand what is so difficult to understand in the notion that > > being a bilingual country is an asset, an advantage rather than a > > threat or drawback. > > > > So yes, we get it, not the whole of Cameroon is cut off from the > > Internet. But no, that doesn't make it any more acceptable that > > "only" a couple of regions are targeted by what seems like a > > punishment for a "crime de lèse majesté". > > > > Now the question on our table here is what we, global civil society > > coalitions, can do about a situation like this. I recall working > > for a short while at APC on those universal periodic reviews (hope > > I'm not messing up with that heavily acronym based terminology) at > > the UN Human Rights Council, and Cameroon was up for review at some > > point. Has any progress been made since? Any other course of action > > to look into? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mawaki > > > > > > On Jan 28, 2017 4:37 PM, "Mwendwa Kivuva" > > > > > wrote: > > > > It is quite unfortunate the situation in Cameroon, especially how > > people argue out human rights issues when the pinching shoe is on > > the neighbors leg, when their "enemy", imagined or real, is being > > persecuted. > > > > ______________________ > > Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya > > twitter.com/lordmwesh > > > > > > > > On 28 January 2017 at 18:19, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron > > > wrote: > > > > > Dear All > > > > > > I am right here in Douala Cameroun. And when I read Janvier, I > > > will want many people to understand one thing. Mister Janvier is > > > francophone. To many francophones, rights belong to authorities > > > and not peoples . People must fear not respect authorities > > > because the said authorities have all powers (they call it in > > > french (plein pouvoirs) to do and undo on every citizen. > > > > > > To him, a Sous Prefet can ask for internet to be suspended in some > > > part of Cameroon, he is in his right as an authority. Currently, a > > > Supreme Court Atorney General, Mr Paul Ayah Abine is arrested and > > > is in detention without due process. The same is the case another > > > Magistrate in Buea who was arrested and ferried to Yaounde a day > > > ago. Their crime; for supporting the anglophone call for a > > > federation. > > > > > > To the likes of Janvier, it is the Government that gives liberty > > > (C'est le gouvernement qui donne la liberté in French) > > > > > > The civilized world must act against such egregious obscurantism > > > > > > Agien Nyangkwe > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Evelyn Namara > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Dear all, > > >> > > >> As a person who has been on the side of the shutdown, it is not > > >> right and justifiable to shutdown the Internet, even for a few > > >> regions. Mr. Janvier, your comments in this email hit me so hard. > > >> As a person who has some level of authority, you should be > > >> concerned and fight for all rights of all citizens. > > >> > > >> The 6 million plus people who make up the 2 regions that are > > >> deprived of the Internet also matter. Everyone matters, and like > > >> the Internet Society always says "The Internet is for everybody". > > >> > > >> Let's all fight and make leaders accountable. > > >> > > >> I stand with the people of Cameroun. > > >> > > >> > > >> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Joash Moitui > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > >>> Thank you all. > > >>> > > >>> This is a vital interesting topic. Having lived in Cameroon for > > >>> 3 years, I would say that the shutdown in these two region is no > > >>> different from shutdowns witnessed in Uganda and Gambia for > > >>> instance. It is simply the political elite using their political > > >>> influence to prevent the human rights violations calling for > > >>> federation in these areas. The two areas made up of Anglophones, > > >>> who have been marginalized largely because of their language and > > >>> their calls for federation have been met by internet shutdown > > >>> and full force of security agents. It is this that the Cameroon > > >>> government does not want to be easily distributed within the > > >>> social media. > > >>> > > >>> Joash > > >>> > > >>> On 27 Jan 2017, at 10:56, Nonhlanhla Chanza > > >>> > > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> I still weep blood for those two regions. I have never been > > >>> convinced by the argument that there might be circumstances that > > >>> justifies a shutdown. So many places in turmoil and war in the > > >>> world but people have access still to the Internet. > > >>> On 26 Jan 2017 17:59, "Janvier NGNOULAYE" > > >>> > wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Hi to all, > > >>>> It seems to me that the problem of access to Internet in > > >>>> Cameroon is very much amplified here on the Net. There are 10 > > >>>> regions in Cameroon, the problem of access to the Internet is > > >>>> only concerning 2 Regions. These 2 regions actually has some > > >>>> political or social crisis. The government and other > > >>>> stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for suitable > > >>>> solutions. Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut these > > >>>> two regions of Internet access and Western Union money transfer > > >>>> services, for the sake of the entire population of these 2 > > >>>> regions. Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 > > >>>> regions. I'm sending this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. So the > > >>>> situation is not a disaster as some seem to publish on the Net. > > >>>> The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the government and the > > >>>> other stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even if it > > >>>> involves a temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union > > >>>> services. > > >>>> > > >>>> ISOC Cameroon Chapter > > >>>> President > > >>>> > > >>>> 2017-01-26 15:45 GMT+01:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro > > >>>> >: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Hi > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Indeed, this is a terrible situation, which can happen in any > > >>>>> country, which is why everyone should take action. > > >>>>> I'd think bringing in ISOC and other organizations will help > > >>>>> deepen these efforts. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Deji Bryce Olukotun < > > >>>>> deji at accessnow.org> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> Thank you, Arsène for the introduction and the summary. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Judith, as Arsène explained, the #KeepitOn coalition > > >>>>>> (111 organizations from 51 > > >>>>>> countries) is pushing back against the shutdown. Our efforts > > >>>>>> are being led by Julie Owono from Internet Without Borders > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> . > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> At present, we are fighting the shutdown in several ways: > > >>>>>> - open letter to government officials and agencies to restore > > >>>>>> access > > >>>>>> - media outreach > > >>>>>> - Tweet action at Cameroonian officials > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> (please support!) > > >>>>>> - outreach to telcos operating in the country, including a > > >>>>>> statement from the Global Network Initiative > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> (Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Investors, academics) > > >>>>>> - outreach to international officials at the UN and AU > > >>>>>> - coordination with local groups in Cameroon > > >>>>>> - coordinating with CDN's and other measurement entities > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> We welcome any ideas or suggestions about how to get the > > >>>>>> internet turned back on. With each passing day, people are at > > >>>>>> increased risk of human rights violations and the economy is > > >>>>>> losing money. We'll reach out to ISOC to coordinate as well. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Best, > > >>>>>> Deji > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:44 AM, Arsène Tungali < > > >>>>>> arsenebaguma at gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Hi Judith, > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Thanks for sharing this with us. What's going on in Cameroon > > >>>>>>> is just a shame. For colleagues who have never experienced > > >>>>>>> Internet shutdown, please understand that it is a nightmare. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On this note about Cameroon, several organizations including > > >>>>>>> Access Now and Internet Without Borders > > >>>>>>> are > > >>>>>>> doing a lot of advocacy and statements > > >>>>>>> , > > >>>>>>> letters have been sent to officials in Cameroon to ask them > > >>>>>>> to bring back the Internet. A hashtag about this has been > > >>>>>>> started and you can take action as well: > > >>>>>>> #BringBackkOutInternet > > >>>>>>> . > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> You can learn more about the #KeepItOn > > >>>>>>> campaign > > >>>>>>> here . > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Eduard Snowden sent in a tweet > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> where he said: "*This is the future of repression. If we do > > >>>>>>> not fight it there, it will happen here*" and I cannot > > >>>>>>> agree more with him because it is just going from one > > >>>>>>> country to another. Over 8 countries in Africa, including > > >>>>>>> mine the DRC, have experienced shutdown and no one knows > > >>>>>>> who is next. Acces Now has reported > > >>>>>>> 15 Internet shutdowns > > >>>>>>> across the world in 2015 and 56 in 2016 > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> If there is any question about all the statements and > > >>>>>>> campaigns, I am happy to help or convey your questions since > > >>>>>>> I am involved, on a personal capacity, in these movements > > >>>>>>> advocating and fighting Internet shutdowns across Africa. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Regards, > > >>>>>>> Arsene > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> PS: Copied is Deji Olukotun who works on Advocacy for Access > > >>>>>>> Now. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> ------------------------ > > >>>>>>> **Arsène Tungali** > > >>>>>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > > >>>>>>> *, > > >>>>>>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, > > >>>>>>> *Mabingwa Forum * > > >>>>>>> Tel: +243 993810967 > > >>>>>>> <+243%20993%20810%20967> GPG: 523644A0 > > >>>>>>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> & Mexico > > >>>>>>> ) > > >>>>>>> - AFRISIG 2016 > > >>>>>>> - Blogger > > >>>>>>> - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > > >>>>>>> & > > >>>>>>> Marrakech > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The > > >>>>>>> HuffingtonPost UK > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> 2017-01-26 5:34 GMT+02:00 Judith Hellerstein < > > >>>>>>> judith at jhellerstein.com>: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> HI All, > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Just passing on a note from Mafor Edwan of ISOC Cameroon > > >>>>>>>> about the Cameroonian Government shut down of the Internet > > >>>>>>>> in his country. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> I am at a loss for words of yet another country that has > > >>>>>>>> cut off Internet Access for its citizens. Thanks to ISOC > > >>>>>>>> Cameroon for all their efforts to resolve this crisis, even > > >>>>>>>> though they have not been successful, I am glad that they > > >>>>>>>> have tried. I am a passionate believer in an open Internet. > > >>>>>>>> One that is available to all. By connecting the world, > > >>>>>>>> working with others, and advocating for equal access to the > > >>>>>>>> Internet, We can make the world a better place. Edwan hopes > > >>>>>>>> people can share this word about this and hopefully some > > >>>>>>>> one can reach the President and tell him what a bad idea > > >>>>>>>> this is. I told him I would share it around. Hope others > > >>>>>>>> can do the same > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Best, > > >>>>>>>> Judith > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________________ > > >>>>>>>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO > > >>>>>>>> Hellerstein & Associates > > >>>>>>>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 > > >>>>>>>> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein > > >>>>>>>> E-mail: > > >>>>>>>> Judith at jhellerstein.com > > >>>>>>>> Website: www.jhellerstein.com > > >>>>>>>> Linked In: > > >>>>>>>> www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ > > >>>>>>>> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] FYI- Constance's blog post > > >>>>>>>> about the G20 - and the updated Internet Governance > > >>>>>>>> timeline Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:49:53 -0500 > > >>>>>>>> From: Queen Mother > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > To: Dan > > >>>>>>>> York > > > >>>>>>>> > CC: ISOC Chapter > > >>>>>>>> Delegates > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> >, > > >>>>>>>> Carl Gahnberg > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Good evening Fellow ISOC Delegates, > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> I bring you sad news about the state of internet access in > > >>>>>>>> my home country Cameroon. > > >>>>>>>> I have sobbed uncontrollably for weeks as the govt of my > > >>>>>>>> country tortures and mimes her citizens and recently has > > >>>>>>>> cut off the ability to send financial support to our > > >>>>>>>> families through western union and has now cut off the > > >>>>>>>> internet. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Please if you can read the articles below. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Cameroon Cuts Internet in English-speaking Regions > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> http://www.voanews.com/a/cameroon-cuts-internet-in-english-s > > >>>>>>>> peaking-regions/3682688.html > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> How Cameroon pressured mobile operators to shut down the > > >>>>>>>> internet and stifle dissent > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> https://qz.com/893401/cameroon-pressured-mtn-and-other-opera > > >>>>>>>> tors-to-shut-down-internet-in-bamenda-buea-regions/ > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Thank you. > > >>>>>>>> Mafor edwan > > >>>>>>>> Vice President #2 > > >>>>>>>> ISOC Cameroon ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Sun Jan 29 21:35:59 2017 From: gurstein at gmail.com (Michael Gurstein) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 18:35:59 -0800 Subject: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump Message-ID: <015c01d27aa1$979678f0$c6c36ad0$@gmail.com> A question, what does Multistakeholderism looking like in the context of Mr. Trump's America First-ism? 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I hope we succeed, and in that context, multistakeholderism may or may not play a role (which doesn't really prove anything!). But I certainly don't think it's a very important issue to worry about at this point in time when so much more is at stake..... > On Jan 29, 2017, at 9:35 PM, Michael Gurstein wrote: > > A question, what does Multistakeholderism looking like in the context of Mr. Trump’s America First-ism? > > Asking for a friend… > > M > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From bzs at theworld.com Mon Jan 30 00:08:10 2017 From: bzs at theworld.com (bzs at theworld.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 00:08:10 -0500 Subject: [governance] Proposal for IGC to formally respond to "Please Cameroon did not shut down the Internet !!!" In-Reply-To: <20170130012525.69cea232@quill> References: <4B4986C9-C64C-4F29-92FB-2A16DBF968A5@gmail.com> <20170129234250.0148a4d5@quill> <715e94b2d2c044eebef845495c094a5e@EX13-MBX-07.ad.syr.edu> <20170130012525.69cea232@quill> Message-ID: <22670.51770.699597.799085@gargle.gargle.HOWL> I'm admittedly a technical sort of person so my first reaction would be to map out how Cameroon obtains internet ingress/egress and from whom. Specifically to try to dig out the contracts if possible or at least characterize them (e.g., obtain typical contracts for study.) That might yield more effective pressure points such as within the ITU as one contractual body though the facts would tend to direct where attention should be paid. What for example has Cameroon agreed in those mutual transit contracts? Are businesses outside of Cameroon financially disadvantaged in reasonably measurable ways? It would be difficult to imagine that none are. Of course these various ideas are not mutually exclusive, they all can be explored simultaneously. -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | bzs at TheWorld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: +1 617-STD-WRLD | 800-THE-WRLD The World: Since 1989 | A Public Information Utility | *oo* -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From arsenebaguma at gmail.com Mon Jan 30 04:02:56 2017 From: arsenebaguma at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne_Tungali?=) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:02:56 +0200 Subject: [governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter? Message-ID: Dear colleagues, Starting a new thread. I would like to thank everyone for raising your concern about what's going on in Cameroon which is just another country added to the list of African countries that have experienced Internet shutdown. I am from the DRC and we have experienced this more than 3 times and I am in the best position to highly condem this new form of oppression. I would also like to thank everyone who have expressed their concern over what Mr. Janvier had to say about the shutdown in his country, where he volunteerly serve as ISOC Cameroon President. I join you all and condemn his position on this, which I can assure you, is his own position, not shared by his other colleagues at theISOC Chapter. Proof is he reacted to his other colleague who had a different view and who was making an appeal, asking for more coverage and action regarding what's going on in his country. For your information, ISOC has issued a statement condemning the shutdown in Cameroon as well as in other countries. This show that ISOC, as an organization, does not support shutdowns but rather condem it firmly (as we all know). And, on a different mailing list, Mr. Nicolas Seidler , who is Senior Policy Advisor for ISOC said the following: We felt it was time to formally express our long-standing concerns on such measures, in the context of the Cameroon situation and in view of others to come up in the future. We are also supporting and giving visibility to efforts from Access and members of the Keep it on campaign on our social media channels. And he reacted on Mr. Janvier's stance and ONLY had this to say: Finally, we have an ISOC Chapter in Cameroon, as in many other parts of the worlds. While not all members of Chapters share the same view (a Chapter is made of local volunteers, not staff), there are some who want to act and we’ll make sure to direct them to Deji, Julie and others involved in the advocacy effort. >From the above, we understand that it was a personal point of view from Mr. Janvier which, as most of our colleagues said here, is completely wrong. I do personally believe that when a single person is restricted access, this should be raised and condemned. In Cameroon, we have 2 regions affected and this is terrible. *Now, coming back to the discussion on this list regarding a statement, I would like to suggest the following:* 1. We can issue a statement adressed to ISOC Global (to ISOC Executive Director for example) condemning the public stance taken by ISOC Cameroon President. May I suggest *Norbert and Mawaki* to make an initial draft statement and share with us within the next 48 hours (if at all possible)? 2. We then issue a more general statement condemning Internet shutdown across the world as a civil society coalition because I am sure this is the new form of opression that Gov are taking (as said by Snowden). It will be very useful we use the expertise we have here to draft this and circulate it widely in all networks as a way to condemn the act but also to raise awareness about the issue (which is still unfamiliar with those who are not actively involved in these discussions or who have never experienced any shutdown). *For this, I would like to ask request few volunteers to make an initial draft statement as well?* Please do let me know what you think or if there is another approach that we can all agree on and take action without wassting more time. If you want to be part of the team of 3 to draft the second statement, please do let us know on this list within the next 48 hours. Very best, Arsene, IGC Co-cooordinator ------------------------ **Arsène Tungali** Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international *, CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum * Tel: +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico ) - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From arsenebaguma at gmail.com Mon Jan 30 04:05:53 2017 From: arsenebaguma at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne_Tungali?=) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:05:53 +0200 Subject: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump In-Reply-To: <015c01d27aa1$979678f0$c6c36ad0$@gmail.com> References: <015c01d27aa1$979678f0$c6c36ad0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I think it is still fine if he only apply this in the context of the US (i mean within the US borders). There is a way he can form a multistakeholderism process within the country and still be able to fulfill his America-First wish ------------------------ **Arsène Tungali** Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international *, CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum * Tel: +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico ) - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK 2017-01-30 4:35 GMT+02:00 Michael Gurstein : > A question, what does Multistakeholderism looking like in the context of > Mr. Trump’s America First-ism? > > > > Asking for a friend… > > > > M > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From kichango at gmail.com Mon Jan 30 04:20:29 2017 From: kichango at gmail.com (Mawaki Chango) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:20:29 +0000 Subject: [governance] Proposal for IGC to formally respond to "Please Cameroon did not shut down the Internet !!!" In-Reply-To: <22670.51770.699597.799085@gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <4B4986C9-C64C-4F29-92FB-2A16DBF968A5@gmail.com> <20170129234250.0148a4d5@quill> <715e94b2d2c044eebef845495c094a5e@EX13-MBX-07.ad.syr.edu> <20170130012525.69cea232@quill> <22670.51770.699597.799085@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: Norbert, I think we can certainly have a statement that starts with recalling a number of relevant general principles and the formulation of IGC principled position on the issue at hand. And then have the second part of the statement focus on addressing the ISOC Chapter. (This is fair enough, in my view, since we've been particularly alarmed by a comment the chapter president made, which has triggered the move for the statement. Whether the president was expressing the official position of the chapter or not doesn't matter a whole lot, because the simple fact that he would say that indicates that he would most probably not move the chapter, by himself, to take a stance against what is happening in the country wrt Internet access for all.) This and the other approach suggested by Barry are indeed not exclusive. But I suspect the latter will take more time, so that could be a longer term strategy if there's consensus within the Caucus (not saying it will necessary be very long to get it done, although it might.) In the meantime we might want to put out a principled position. My cents... I'll keep it at that whatever the Caucus decides. Cheers! Mawaki On Jan 30, 2017 5:09 AM, wrote: I'm admittedly a technical sort of person so my first reaction would be to map out how Cameroon obtains internet ingress/egress and from whom. Specifically to try to dig out the contracts if possible or at least characterize them (e.g., obtain typical contracts for study.) That might yield more effective pressure points such as within the ITU as one contractual body though the facts would tend to direct where attention should be paid. What for example has Cameroon agreed in those mutual transit contracts? Are businesses outside of Cameroon financially disadvantaged in reasonably measurable ways? It would be difficult to imagine that none are. Of course these various ideas are not mutually exclusive, they all can be explored simultaneously. -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | bzs at TheWorld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: +1 617-STD-WRLD | 800-THE-WRLD The World: Since 1989 | A Public Information Utility | *oo* ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nyangkweagien at gmail.com Mon Jan 30 04:24:24 2017 From: nyangkweagien at gmail.com (Nyangkwe Agien Aaron) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 10:24:24 +0100 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Please Cameroon did not shut down the Internet !!! In-Reply-To: References: <4B4986C9-C64C-4F29-92FB-2A16DBF968A5@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks Mawaki You made my day in these very trying moments. My sister is lying sick in a Hospital in the North West Cameroon and I cannot send her money nor call her or receive a call from her That to Janvier Gnoulayae is very OK. Sécurité nationale oblige! Phooey! Agien Nyangkwe (Aaron) On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 6:57 PM, Mawaki Chango wrote: > Thanks all trying to report out of Cameroon. > > Like others, I was struck by the implications from Janvier's reporting, or > rather his attempt at a "mise au point" which completely missed the mark, > I'm sorry. > > Government is blocking Internet access only in 2 regions out of 8, so the > situation is not that bad as the whole Cameroon being shutdown and we > should chill? > > Oh, and money remittance operations to those 2 regions are also suspended, > but not a big deal really? > > And you say that's done by the government for the sake of the whole > population in those 2 regions? How's that? We just need to swallow that > assertion made by you or the government and keep moving, nothing to see > here? > > Interesting enough, the other 6 regions don't need that security and > safety which is supposed to be found in shutting down the Internet (do you > really think if there was a real terrorism threat from a section of the > population accessing the Internet, that threat will go away by maintaining > access only for their neighbors?) It's all in the (government) motivation, > isn't it? If one cannot question the actual government's motivation in > taking such extreme measures then it's going to be hard to come to a > consensus on lasting peaceful solutions. > > I myself was born francophone and still a national of the same African > francophone country of birth, and I can relate to that notion of "pleins > pouvoirs"-- not to say "pouvoir absolu"-- found in some of our countries, > which Joash was referring to. But I would urge ISOC Cameroon to try to > relate also to the global culture of individual rights, particularly in the > age of the Internet. Then whatever you'll be able to accept as the right of > any Cameroonian, should be the right of all Cameroonians without > distinction of language, ethnicity, religion, political views or location, > etc. > > And, addressing the government here, I personally can't even begin to > understand what is so difficult to understand in the notion that being a > bilingual country is an asset, an advantage rather than a threat or > drawback. > > So yes, we get it, not the whole of Cameroon is cut off from the Internet. > But no, that doesn't make it any more acceptable that "only" a couple of > regions are targeted by what seems like a punishment for a "crime de lèse > majesté". > > Now the question on our table here is what we, global civil society > coalitions, can do about a situation like this. I recall working for a > short while at APC on those universal periodic reviews (hope I'm not > messing up with that heavily acronym based terminology) at the UN Human > Rights Council, and Cameroon was up for review at some point. Has any > progress been made since? Any other course of action to look into? > > Thanks, > > Mawaki > > > On Jan 28, 2017 4:37 PM, "Mwendwa Kivuva" > wrote: > > It is quite unfortunate the situation in Cameroon, especially how people > argue out human rights issues when the pinching shoe is on the neighbors > leg, when their "enemy", imagined or real, is being persecuted. > > ______________________ > Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya > twitter.com/lordmwesh > > > > On 28 January 2017 at 18:19, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron > wrote: > >> Dear All >> >> I am right here in Douala Cameroun. And when I read Janvier, I will want >> many people to understand one thing. Mister Janvier is francophone. To many >> francophones, rights belong to authorities and not peoples . People must >> fear not respect authorities because the said authorities have all powers >> (they call it in french (plein pouvoirs) to do and undo on every citizen. >> >> To him, a Sous Prefet can ask for internet to be suspended in some part >> of Cameroon, he is in his right as an authority. Currently, a Supreme Court >> Atorney General, Mr Paul Ayah Abine is arrested and is in detention without >> due process. The same is the case another Magistrate in Buea who was >> arrested and ferried to Yaounde a day ago. Their crime; for supporting the >> anglophone call for a federation. >> >> To the likes of Janvier, it is the Government that gives liberty (C'est >> le gouvernement qui donne la liberté in French) >> >> The civilized world must act against such egregious obscurantism >> >> Agien Nyangkwe >> >> On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Evelyn Namara >> wrote: >> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> As a person who has been on the side of the shutdown, it is not right >>> and justifiable to shutdown the Internet, even for a few regions. >>> Mr. Janvier, your comments in this email hit me so hard. As a person who >>> has some level of authority, you should be concerned and fight for all >>> rights of all citizens. >>> >>> The 6 million plus people who make up the 2 regions that are deprived of >>> the Internet also matter. Everyone matters, and like the Internet Society >>> always says "The Internet is for everybody". >>> >>> Let's all fight and make leaders accountable. >>> >>> I stand with the people of Cameroun. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Joash Moitui >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you all. >>>> >>>> This is a vital interesting topic. Having lived in Cameroon for 3 >>>> years, I would say that the shutdown in these two region is no different >>>> from shutdowns witnessed in Uganda and Gambia for instance. It is simply >>>> the political elite using their political influence to prevent the human >>>> rights violations calling for federation in these areas. The two areas made >>>> up of Anglophones, who have been marginalized largely because of their >>>> language and their calls for federation have been met by internet shutdown >>>> and full force of security agents. It is this that the Cameroon government >>>> does not want to be easily distributed within the social media. >>>> >>>> Joash >>>> >>>> On 27 Jan 2017, at 10:56, Nonhlanhla Chanza >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I still weep blood for those two regions. I have never been convinced >>>> by the argument that there might be circumstances that justifies a >>>> shutdown. So many places in turmoil and war in the world but people have >>>> access still to the Internet. >>>> On 26 Jan 2017 17:59, "Janvier NGNOULAYE" wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi to all, >>>>> It seems to me that the problem of access to Internet in Cameroon is >>>>> very much amplified here on the Net. There are 10 regions in Cameroon, the >>>>> problem of access to the Internet is only concerning 2 Regions. These 2 >>>>> regions actually has some political or social crisis. The government and >>>>> other stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for suitable solutions. >>>>> Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut these two regions of Internet >>>>> access and Western Union money transfer services, for the sake of the >>>>> entire population of these 2 regions. >>>>> Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 regions. I'm >>>>> sending this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. >>>>> So the situation is not a disaster as some seem to publish on the >>>>> Net. The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the government and the other >>>>> stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even if it involves a >>>>> temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union services. >>>>> >>>>> ISOC Cameroon Chapter >>>>> President >>>>> >>>>> 2017-01-26 15:45 GMT+01:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro : >>>>> >>>>>> Hi >>>>>> >>>>>> Indeed, this is a terrible situation, which can happen in any >>>>>> country, which is why everyone should take action. >>>>>> I'd think bringing in ISOC and other organizations will help deepen >>>>>> these efforts. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Deji Bryce Olukotun < >>>>>> deji at accessnow.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you, Arsène for the introduction and the summary. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Judith, as Arsène explained, the #KeepitOn coalition >>>>>>> (111 organizations from 51 >>>>>>> countries) is pushing back against the shutdown. Our efforts are being led >>>>>>> by Julie Owono from Internet Without Borders >>>>>>> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> At present, we are fighting the shutdown in several ways: >>>>>>> - open letter to government officials and agencies to restore access >>>>>>> - media outreach >>>>>>> - Tweet action at Cameroonian officials >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (please support!) >>>>>>> - outreach to telcos operating in the country, including a statement >>>>>>> from the Global Network Initiative >>>>>>> (Microsoft, >>>>>>> Google, Facebook, Investors, academics) >>>>>>> - outreach to international officials at the UN and AU >>>>>>> - coordination with local groups in Cameroon >>>>>>> - coordinating with CDN's and other measurement entities >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We welcome any ideas or suggestions about how to get the internet >>>>>>> turned back on. With each passing day, people are at increased risk of >>>>>>> human rights violations and the economy is losing money. We'll reach out to >>>>>>> ISOC to coordinate as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> Deji >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:44 AM, Arsène Tungali < >>>>>>> arsenebaguma at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Judith, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for sharing this with us. What's going on in Cameroon is >>>>>>>> just a shame. For colleagues who have never experienced Internet shutdown, >>>>>>>> please understand that it is a nightmare. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On this note about Cameroon, several organizations including Access >>>>>>>> Now and Internet Without Borders >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>> doing a lot of advocacy and statements >>>>>>>> , >>>>>>>> letters have been sent to officials in Cameroon to ask them to bring back >>>>>>>> the Internet. A hashtag about this has been started and you can take action >>>>>>>> as well: #BringBackkOutInternet >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can learn more about the #KeepItOn >>>>>>>> campaign here >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Eduard Snowden sent in a tweet >>>>>>>> where he >>>>>>>> said: "*This is the future of repression. If we do not fight it >>>>>>>> there, it will happen here*" and I cannot agree more with him >>>>>>>> because it is just going from one country to another. Over 8 countries in >>>>>>>> Africa, including mine the DRC, have experienced shutdown and no one knows >>>>>>>> who is next. Acces Now has reported >>>>>>>> 15 Internet shutdowns across >>>>>>>> the world in 2015 and 56 in 2016 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If there is any question about all the statements and campaigns, I >>>>>>>> am happy to help or convey your questions since I am involved, on a >>>>>>>> personal capacity, in these movements advocating and fighting Internet >>>>>>>> shutdowns across Africa. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Arsene >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> PS: Copied is Deji Olukotun who works on Advocacy for Access Now. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------ >>>>>>>> **Arsène Tungali** >>>>>>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >>>>>>>> *, >>>>>>>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa >>>>>>>> Forum * >>>>>>>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> >>>>>>>> GPG: 523644A0 >>>>>>>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> & Mexico >>>>>>>> ) >>>>>>>> - AFRISIG 2016 - >>>>>>>> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >>>>>>>> & Marrakech >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2017-01-26 5:34 GMT+02:00 Judith Hellerstein < >>>>>>>> judith at jhellerstein.com>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> HI All, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just passing on a note from Mafor Edwan of ISOC Cameroon about the >>>>>>>>> Cameroonian Government shut down of the Internet in his country. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am at a loss for words of yet another country that has cut off >>>>>>>>> Internet Access for its citizens. Thanks to ISOC Cameroon for all their >>>>>>>>> efforts to resolve this crisis, even though they have not been successful, >>>>>>>>> I am glad that they have tried. I am a passionate believer in an open >>>>>>>>> Internet. One that is available to all. By connecting the world, working >>>>>>>>> with others, and advocating for equal access to the Internet, We can make >>>>>>>>> the world a better place. >>>>>>>>> Edwan hopes people can share this word about this and hopefully >>>>>>>>> some one can reach the President and tell him what a bad idea this is. I >>>>>>>>> told him I would share it around. Hope others can do the same >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>> Judith >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO >>>>>>>>> Hellerstein & Associates >>>>>>>>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 >>>>>>>>> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein >>>>>>>>> E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com >>>>>>>>> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ >>>>>>>>> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] FYI- Constance's blog post about >>>>>>>>> the G20 - and the updated Internet Governance timeline >>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:49:53 -0500 >>>>>>>>> From: Queen Mother >>>>>>>>> To: Dan York >>>>>>>>> CC: ISOC Chapter Delegates >>>>>>>>> , Carl Gahnberg >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Good evening Fellow ISOC Delegates, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I bring you sad news about the state of internet access in my home >>>>>>>>> country Cameroon. >>>>>>>>> I have sobbed uncontrollably for weeks as the govt of my country >>>>>>>>> tortures and mimes her citizens and recently has cut off the ability to >>>>>>>>> send financial support to our families through western union and has now >>>>>>>>> cut off the internet. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please if you can read the articles below. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cameroon Cuts Internet in English-speaking Regions >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.voanews.com/a/cameroon-cuts-internet-in-english-s >>>>>>>>> peaking-regions/3682688.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How Cameroon pressured mobile operators to shut down the internet >>>>>>>>> and stifle dissent >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://qz.com/893401/cameroon-pressured-mtn-and-other-opera >>>>>>>>> tors-to-shut-down-internet-in-bamenda-buea-regions/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>> Mafor edwan >>>>>>>>> Vice President #2 >>>>>>>>> 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On Jan 30, 2017 10:36 AM, "Arsène Tungali" wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > Hope this finds you well. > > Just so you know, we will be starting very soon the process or electing a > new Co-coordinator to replace our very own Analia whose term ends > this January 2017. > > Meanwhile and before a call is being sent, please do get ready if you > would like to serve as the next IGC Co-coordinator (alongside me) and > follow up on the wonderful job done by Analia. > > Note that no action is needed as of now. > > Best regards, > Analia & Arsene > IGC Co-coordinators > ------------------------ > **Arsène Tungali** > Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > *, > CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum > * > Tel: +243 993810967 > GPG: 523644A0 > *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > > 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > > (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > > & Mexico > ) > - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger > - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > & Marrakech > > ). 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Arsene We surely are going miss Analia's inspiring leadership Agien Nyangkwe (Aaron) On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Akinremi Peter Taiwo < compsoftnet at gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for sharing Arsene. > On Jan 30, 2017 10:36 AM, "Arsène Tungali" wrote: > >> Dear colleagues, >> >> Hope this finds you well. >> >> Just so you know, we will be starting very soon the process or electing a >> new Co-coordinator to replace our very own Analia whose term ends >> this January 2017. >> >> Meanwhile and before a call is being sent, please do get ready if you >> would like to serve as the next IGC Co-coordinator (alongside me) and >> follow up on the wonderful job done by Analia. >> >> Note that no action is needed as of now. >> >> Best regards, >> Analia & Arsene >> IGC Co-coordinators >> ------------------------ >> **Arsène Tungali** >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >> *, >> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum >> * >> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> >> GPG: 523644A0 >> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >> >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >> >> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >> >> & Mexico >> ) >> - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger >> - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >> & Marrakech >> >> ). 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nyangkweagien at gmail.com Mon Jan 30 07:44:51 2017 From: nyangkweagien at gmail.com (Nyangkwe Agien Aaron) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 13:44:51 +0100 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Please Cameroon did not shut down the Internet !!! In-Reply-To: References: <4B4986C9-C64C-4F29-92FB-2A16DBF968A5@gmail.com> Message-ID: From An Anglophone Parliamentarian *THE DIGNIFIED PEOPLE OF WEST CAMEROON ARE WINNERS FOR ALL TIMES*. Our people have proven to the colonial masters that our iron will is tougher than all their guns. The week by week shut down of West Cameroon is sure proof. We will keep our children home and shut down everything till we build a better future for those children. We will do it for as long as it takes. This is the best option for us for we are a peaceful people and we will win by all peaceful means. The reason our courageous leaders are in jail and others are being hunted down like animals is because this government believes that it has a colony in West Cameroon! In colonial policy, the master never sits to debate anything with the natives who own the land. The colonial rules are simple, beat them, maim them, jail them, shoot them and kill them heady native, who challenge your injustices, until the rest submit to your colonial will! After 55 years, our people have simply outgrown fear and submission. They are now holding their heads higher and higher and simply saying *“Since you have more value for our land than for our people, kill us all before you take the land.”* This is our peaceful resistance “War” cry. We must now let the world know that we will resist them to the last man, woman and child. It is the cheapest “war” against our oppressors. With our bare hands and our hearts full of determination to live in dignity in our own country, we must collectively stand up and face our oppressors until we win! Even if our children stay home for two years, it will be better for us and those children because we will use this peaceful means to build a better and a free Cameroon for them. Peaceful resistance and civil disobedience are very legitimate ways of fighting oppression! *My people, by shutting down the internet all over West Cameroon, this government has proven that if it had its means, it could shut off even the air we breathe, so that we, the people of West Cameroon, could collectively chock to death! If they could, they could, they will shut down both sun and rain so we could all starve to death. This government is a grave source of danger to us as a people!* Unfortunately for them, God has a different plan for his people of West Cameroon! A plan of complete victory of good over evil! Actions speak louder than words! Their actions have shown the whole world how much they despise us! We can now see them for who they really are: *a heartless government that treats us as subhuman!* Were it not, how can a government treat our people with such gross disrespect, spite and arrogance? When a government lacks respect for its people, that government has no place in the people’s life. Let us all stand up in West Cameroon and prove to them that they have no place in our lives! THE STUGGLE CONTINUES. Your humble servant, Hon Wirba Parliamentarian for Bui North West Cameroons On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron < nyangkweagien at gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Mawaki > > Thank you very much for the concern > > These are trying times for us here as Thomas Paine > > Agien Nyangkwe > > On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Mawaki Chango > wrote: > >> [Off list] >> >> Nyangkwe Agien, I'm sorry to hear about your sister. Sending you and her >> my very best wishes for her quick recovery, while we all hope that the >> black-out on the two regions will be lifted the soonest. >> >> Best, >> >> Mawaki >> >> >> >> ============================================ >> Mawaki Chango, PhD >> ​Founder & Managing Director >> >> DigiLexis Consulting >> Skype: digilexis | Slack: @digilexis >> Twitter: @digilexis & @ki_chango >> Mob. +228 92 14 22 22 <+228%2092%2014%2022%2022> | +233 264 070 555 >> ============================================= >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:24 AM, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron < >> nyangkweagien at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Mawaki >>> >>> You made my day in these very trying moments. >>> >>> My sister is lying sick in a Hospital in the North West Cameroon and I >>> cannot send her money nor call her or receive a call from her >>> >>> That to Janvier Gnoulayae is very OK. Sécurité nationale oblige! >>> >>> Phooey! >>> >>> >>> Agien Nyangkwe (Aaron) >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 6:57 PM, Mawaki Chango >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks all trying to report out of Cameroon. >>>> >>>> Like others, I was struck by the implications from Janvier's reporting, >>>> or rather his attempt at a "mise au point" which completely missed the >>>> mark, I'm sorry. >>>> >>>> Government is blocking Internet access only in 2 regions out of 8, so >>>> the situation is not that bad as the whole Cameroon being shutdown and we >>>> should chill? >>>> >>>> Oh, and money remittance operations to those 2 regions are also >>>> suspended, but not a big deal really? >>>> >>>> And you say that's done by the government for the sake of the whole >>>> population in those 2 regions? How's that? We just need to swallow that >>>> assertion made by you or the government and keep moving, nothing to see >>>> here? >>>> >>>> Interesting enough, the other 6 regions don't need that security and >>>> safety which is supposed to be found in shutting down the Internet (do you >>>> really think if there was a real terrorism threat from a section of the >>>> population accessing the Internet, that threat will go away by maintaining >>>> access only for their neighbors?) It's all in the (government) motivation, >>>> isn't it? If one cannot question the actual government's motivation in >>>> taking such extreme measures then it's going to be hard to come to a >>>> consensus on lasting peaceful solutions. >>>> >>>> I myself was born francophone and still a national of the same African >>>> francophone country of birth, and I can relate to that notion of "pleins >>>> pouvoirs"-- not to say "pouvoir absolu"-- found in some of our countries, >>>> which Joash was referring to. But I would urge ISOC Cameroon to try to >>>> relate also to the global culture of individual rights, particularly in the >>>> age of the Internet. Then whatever you'll be able to accept as the right of >>>> any Cameroonian, should be the right of all Cameroonians without >>>> distinction of language, ethnicity, religion, political views or location, >>>> etc. >>>> >>>> And, addressing the government here, I personally can't even begin to >>>> understand what is so difficult to understand in the notion that being a >>>> bilingual country is an asset, an advantage rather than a threat or >>>> drawback. >>>> >>>> So yes, we get it, not the whole of Cameroon is cut off from the >>>> Internet. But no, that doesn't make it any more acceptable that "only" a >>>> couple of regions are targeted by what seems like a punishment for a "crime >>>> de lèse majesté". >>>> >>>> Now the question on our table here is what we, global civil society >>>> coalitions, can do about a situation like this. I recall working for a >>>> short while at APC on those universal periodic reviews (hope I'm not >>>> messing up with that heavily acronym based terminology) at the UN Human >>>> Rights Council, and Cameroon was up for review at some point. Has any >>>> progress been made since? Any other course of action to look into? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Mawaki >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 28, 2017 4:37 PM, "Mwendwa Kivuva" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> It is quite unfortunate the situation in Cameroon, especially how >>>> people argue out human rights issues when the pinching shoe is on the >>>> neighbors leg, when their "enemy", imagined or real, is being persecuted. >>>> >>>> ______________________ >>>> Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya >>>> twitter.com/lordmwesh >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 28 January 2017 at 18:19, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron < >>>> nyangkweagien at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear All >>>>> >>>>> I am right here in Douala Cameroun. And when I read Janvier, I will >>>>> want many people to understand one thing. Mister Janvier is francophone. To >>>>> many francophones, rights belong to authorities and not peoples . People >>>>> must fear not respect authorities because the said authorities have all >>>>> powers (they call it in french (plein pouvoirs) to do and undo on every >>>>> citizen. >>>>> >>>>> To him, a Sous Prefet can ask for internet to be suspended in some >>>>> part of Cameroon, he is in his right as an authority. Currently, a Supreme >>>>> Court Atorney General, Mr Paul Ayah Abine is arrested and is in detention >>>>> without due process. The same is the case another Magistrate in Buea who >>>>> was arrested and ferried to Yaounde a day ago. Their crime; for supporting >>>>> the anglophone call for a federation. >>>>> >>>>> To the likes of Janvier, it is the Government that gives liberty >>>>> (C'est le gouvernement qui donne la liberté in French) >>>>> >>>>> The civilized world must act against such egregious obscurantism >>>>> >>>>> Agien Nyangkwe >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Evelyn Namara >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear all, >>>>>> >>>>>> As a person who has been on the side of the shutdown, it is not right >>>>>> and justifiable to shutdown the Internet, even for a few regions. >>>>>> Mr. Janvier, your comments in this email hit me so hard. As a person >>>>>> who has some level of authority, you should be concerned and fight for all >>>>>> rights of all citizens. >>>>>> >>>>>> The 6 million plus people who make up the 2 regions that are deprived >>>>>> of the Internet also matter. Everyone matters, and like the Internet >>>>>> Society always says "The Internet is for everybody". >>>>>> >>>>>> Let's all fight and make leaders accountable. >>>>>> >>>>>> I stand with the people of Cameroun. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Joash Moitui < >>>>>> joash.moitui at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you all. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is a vital interesting topic. Having lived in Cameroon for 3 >>>>>>> years, I would say that the shutdown in these two region is no different >>>>>>> from shutdowns witnessed in Uganda and Gambia for instance. It is simply >>>>>>> the political elite using their political influence to prevent the human >>>>>>> rights violations calling for federation in these areas. The two areas made >>>>>>> up of Anglophones, who have been marginalized largely because of their >>>>>>> language and their calls for federation have been met by internet shutdown >>>>>>> and full force of security agents. It is this that the Cameroon government >>>>>>> does not want to be easily distributed within the social media. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Joash >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 27 Jan 2017, at 10:56, Nonhlanhla Chanza < >>>>>>> nonhlanhlachanza at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I still weep blood for those two regions. I have never been >>>>>>> convinced by the argument that there might be circumstances that justifies >>>>>>> a shutdown. So many places in turmoil and war in the world but people have >>>>>>> access still to the Internet. >>>>>>> On 26 Jan 2017 17:59, "Janvier NGNOULAYE" >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi to all, >>>>>>>> It seems to me that the problem of access to Internet in Cameroon >>>>>>>> is very much amplified here on the Net. There are 10 regions in Cameroon, >>>>>>>> the problem of access to the Internet is only concerning 2 Regions. These 2 >>>>>>>> regions actually has some political or social crisis. The government and >>>>>>>> other stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for suitable solutions. >>>>>>>> Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut these two regions of Internet >>>>>>>> access and Western Union money transfer services, for the sake of the >>>>>>>> entire population of these 2 regions. >>>>>>>> Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 regions. I'm >>>>>>>> sending this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. >>>>>>>> So the situation is not a disaster as some seem to publish on the >>>>>>>> Net. The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the government and the other >>>>>>>> stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even if it involves a >>>>>>>> temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union services. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ISOC Cameroon Chapter >>>>>>>> President >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2017-01-26 15:45 GMT+01:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro >>>>>>> >: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Indeed, this is a terrible situation, which can happen in any >>>>>>>>> country, which is why everyone should take action. >>>>>>>>> I'd think bringing in ISOC and other organizations will help >>>>>>>>> deepen these efforts. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Deji Bryce Olukotun < >>>>>>>>> deji at accessnow.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Arsène for the introduction and the summary. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Judith, as Arsène explained, the #KeepitOn coalition >>>>>>>>>> (111 organizations from 51 >>>>>>>>>> countries) is pushing back against the shutdown. Our efforts are being led >>>>>>>>>> by Julie Owono from Internet Without Borders >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> At present, we are fighting the shutdown in several ways: >>>>>>>>>> - open letter to government officials and agencies to restore >>>>>>>>>> access >>>>>>>>>> - media outreach >>>>>>>>>> - Tweet action at Cameroonian officials >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> (please support!) >>>>>>>>>> - outreach to telcos operating in the country, including a statement >>>>>>>>>> from the Global Network Initiative >>>>>>>>>> (Microsoft, >>>>>>>>>> Google, Facebook, Investors, academics) >>>>>>>>>> - outreach to international officials at the UN and AU >>>>>>>>>> - coordination with local groups in Cameroon >>>>>>>>>> - coordinating with CDN's and other measurement entities >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We welcome any ideas or suggestions about how to get the internet >>>>>>>>>> turned back on. With each passing day, people are at increased risk of >>>>>>>>>> human rights violations and the economy is losing money. We'll reach out to >>>>>>>>>> ISOC to coordinate as well. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>> Deji >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:44 AM, Arsène Tungali < >>>>>>>>>> arsenebaguma at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Judith, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for sharing this with us. What's going on in Cameroon is >>>>>>>>>>> just a shame. For colleagues who have never experienced Internet shutdown, >>>>>>>>>>> please understand that it is a nightmare. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On this note about Cameroon, several organizations including >>>>>>>>>>> Access Now and Internet Without Borders >>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> doing a lot of advocacy and statements >>>>>>>>>>> , >>>>>>>>>>> letters have been sent to officials in Cameroon to ask them to bring back >>>>>>>>>>> the Internet. A hashtag about this has been started and you can take action >>>>>>>>>>> as well: #BringBackkOutInternet >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You can learn more about the #KeepItOn >>>>>>>>>>> campaign here >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Eduard Snowden sent in a tweet >>>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>>> he said: "*This is the future of repression. If we do not fight >>>>>>>>>>> it there, it will happen here*" and I cannot agree more with >>>>>>>>>>> him because it is just going from one country to another. Over 8 countries >>>>>>>>>>> in Africa, including mine the DRC, have experienced shutdown and no one >>>>>>>>>>> knows who is next. Acces Now has reported >>>>>>>>>>> 15 Internet shutdowns >>>>>>>>>>> across the world in 2015 and 56 in 2016 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If there is any question about all the statements and campaigns, >>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to help or convey your questions since I am involved, on a >>>>>>>>>>> personal capacity, in these movements advocating and fighting Internet >>>>>>>>>>> shutdowns across Africa. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>> Arsene >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> PS: Copied is Deji Olukotun who works on Advocacy for Access Now. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>> **Arsène Tungali** >>>>>>>>>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >>>>>>>>>>> *, >>>>>>>>>>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa >>>>>>>>>>> Forum * >>>>>>>>>>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> >>>>>>>>>>> GPG: 523644A0 >>>>>>>>>>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> & Mexico >>>>>>>>>>> ) >>>>>>>>>>> - AFRISIG 2016 >>>>>>>>>>> - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los >>>>>>>>>>> Angeles >>>>>>>>>>> & Marrakech >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost >>>>>>>>>>> UK >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2017-01-26 5:34 GMT+02:00 Judith Hellerstein < >>>>>>>>>>> judith at jhellerstein.com>: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> HI All, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Just passing on a note from Mafor Edwan of ISOC Cameroon about >>>>>>>>>>>> the Cameroonian Government shut down of the Internet in his country. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I am at a loss for words of yet another country that has cut >>>>>>>>>>>> off Internet Access for its citizens. Thanks to ISOC Cameroon for all their >>>>>>>>>>>> efforts to resolve this crisis, even though they have not been successful, >>>>>>>>>>>> I am glad that they have tried. I am a passionate believer in an open >>>>>>>>>>>> Internet. One that is available to all. By connecting the world, working >>>>>>>>>>>> with others, and advocating for equal access to the Internet, We can make >>>>>>>>>>>> the world a better place. >>>>>>>>>>>> Edwan hopes people can share this word about this and hopefully >>>>>>>>>>>> some one can reach the President and tell him what a bad idea this is. I >>>>>>>>>>>> told him I would share it around. Hope others can do the same >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>>>> Judith >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO >>>>>>>>>>>> Hellerstein & Associates >>>>>>>>>>>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 >>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein >>>>>>>>>>>> E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com >>>>>>>>>>>> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ >>>>>>>>>>>> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] FYI- Constance's blog post >>>>>>>>>>>> about the G20 - and the updated Internet Governance timeline >>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:49:53 -0500 >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Queen Mother >>>>>>>>>>>> To: Dan York >>>>>>>>>>>> CC: ISOC Chapter Delegates >>>>>>>>>>>> , Carl Gahnberg >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Good evening Fellow ISOC Delegates, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I bring you sad news about the state of internet access in my >>>>>>>>>>>> home country Cameroon. >>>>>>>>>>>> I have sobbed uncontrollably for weeks as the govt of my >>>>>>>>>>>> country tortures and mimes her citizens and recently has cut off the >>>>>>>>>>>> ability to send financial support to our families through western union and >>>>>>>>>>>> has now cut off the internet. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please if you can read the articles below. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cameroon Cuts Internet in English-speaking Regions >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.voanews.com/a/cameroon-cuts-internet-in-english-s >>>>>>>>>>>> peaking-regions/3682688.html >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> How Cameroon pressured mobile operators to shut down the >>>>>>>>>>>> internet and stifle dissent >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://qz.com/893401/cameroon-pressured-mtn-and-other-opera >>>>>>>>>>>> tors-to-shut-down-internet-in-bamenda-buea-regions/ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>> Mafor edwan >>>>>>>>>>>> Vice President #2 >>>>>>>>>>>> ISOC Cameroon >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically >>>>>>>>>>>>> subscribed >>>>>>>>>>>>> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet Society >>>>>>>>>>>>> Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>>>>>>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>>>>>>>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>>>>>>>>> To edit 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From anriette at apc.org Mon Jan 30 08:16:22 2017 From: anriette at apc.org (Anriette Esterhuysen) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 15:16:22 +0200 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Second WGEC meeting26-27 January 2017, Geneva In-Reply-To: <1260683256.4328330.1485538688317@mail.yahoo.com> References: <08da0df2-1f5a-d7e4-d5ff-b15e839d8f9c@apc.org> <5a0b4d2f-e8d0-e1f7-3186-53743f9a2d0d@apc.org> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B2A5@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <06BFEAAB-49C7-4949-974A-40B10B9ECB3D@consensus.pro> <1260683256.4328330.1485538688317@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Dear Wangari Apologies for delay in responding. It is an interesting question, and it goes to the heart of the enhanced cooperation debate, which in many ways is at the heart of the internet governance debate that has been ongoing since 2003. The term was first used in 2005 - and it means different things to different people, and the text in the Tunis Agenda where it is first references in a formal UN agreement, can also be interpreted in different ways. For the last decade it has been used as a political football.. in one of those matches in which it is not clear if anyone actually scores any goals. In fact, for some of the players, the objective of the match has been to avoid anyone scoring any goals :) This is a good recent piece by David Souter: https://www.apc.org/en/blog/inside-information-society-enhanced-cooperation-en I quote from it: "‘Enhanced cooperation’, like the Internet Governance Forum (IGF), was part of the compromise on the future of the Internet at WSIS in 2005. Agreement could not be reached on the governance of critical Internet resources, including the domain name system. ICANN (the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers), for some governments, was little more than an adjunct of the United States. Some wanted the Internet brought within the ambit of an intergovernmental (or multilateral) agency such as the International Telecommunication Union (ITU). Others were, as they remain, determined to keep the Internet free from intergovernmental oversight. As well as dividing governments, this was (and is) therefore a tussle between multilateral and multistakeholder approaches to the Internet. The term worked at the time because of its creative ambiguity: like many UN outcomes it meant different things to different folks. But the contests that it overlay were, and still are, unresolved. Several UN initiatives and working groups have failed to reach consensus on it since the Summit. Some governments (and civil society activists) claim that nothing’s changed since WSIS: that governments, particularly developing country governments, can’t play a substantive role in Internet decisions because there is no proper intergovernmental forum. Others suggest that diverse multistakeholder initiatives represent a lot of ‘enhanced cooperation’ that’s already taking place." So in response to your question, it is not a new thing that for several governments, the meaning of enhanced cooperation is "cooperation between governments". And the term 'equal footing' means that all governments should have equal access and voice in these processes. They generally quote paragraph 69 of the Tunis Agenda: "69. We further recognize the need for enhanced cooperation in the future, to enable governments, on an equal footing, to carry out their roles and responsibilities, in international public policy issues pertaining to the Internet, but not in the day-to-day technical and operational matters, that do not impact on international public policy issues." And their position is that the IGF has nothing to do with this type of cooperation. Personally, I think this is misinterpreting the Tunis Agenda. If you read the two previous paragraphs, 67 and 68, there is a clear reference to the IGF (referred to in the Tunis Agenda as "the forum for multi-stakeholder policy dialogue". I quote: "67. We agree, inter alia, to invite the UN Secretary-General to convene a new forum for multi-stakeholder policy dialogue. 68. We recognize that all governments should have an equal role and responsibility for international Internet governance and for ensuring the stability, security and continuity of the Internet. We also recognize the need for development of public policy by governments in consultation with all stakeholders. 69. We further recognize the need for enhanced cooperation in the future, to enable governments, on an equal footing, to carry out their roles and responsibilities, in international public policy issues pertaining to the Internet, but not in the day-to-day technical and operational matters, that do not impact on international public policy issues." My interpretation would be that these paragraphs talks about the forum, about involvement of all stakeholders, and about the need for governments to be able to play their role in international public policy. These area all important and legitimate and they don't need to be mutually exclusive. But there are different views, and there was a General Assembly resolution in 2011 or 2012 which stated that the IGF and enhanced cooperation are two separate processes. I do think governments have a legitimate point in saying that they need a space where they can talk about 'cross cutting' internet-related public policy issues. Specific issues are being addressed in places like the Human Rights Council (for internet and human rights issues) or in WIPO (for copyright related issues, for example). And I also think that developing countries are not sufficiently empowered or influential in most internet-related policy discussions. I just don't believe that setting up a new intergovernmental mechanism is the right solution to this problem. And it is one that is high risk for civil society. But others in the WGEC have different views. Warm greetings and thanks for following the meeting! Anriette On 27/01/2017 19:38, WANGARI KABIRU wrote: > Warm greetings Anriette, > > In the morning there was reference in the semblance that enhanced > cooperation is a government area not for the IGF...MAG. > Would you kindly shed light. > > > The comments; > - that statistics in developing countries are a result of tradeoffs and > thus not (necessarily) reliable > - how an entity is considered multi-stakeholder in one forum and in > other spheres not viewed as such. Taking into account > multi-stakholderism is a key tenet in Internet Governance > > Many thanks for the briefs. > > Be blessed. > > Regards/Wangari > > --- > Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored > Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God > on Earth". > > > -- ----------------------------------------- Anriette Esterhuysen Executive Director Association for Progressive Communications anriette at apc.org www.apc.org IM: ae_apc -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nyangkweagien at gmail.com Mon Jan 30 08:29:32 2017 From: nyangkweagien at gmail.com (Nyangkwe Agien Aaron) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 14:29:32 +0100 Subject: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump In-Reply-To: References: <015c01d27aa1$979678f0$c6c36ad0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi all Why don't we ask ourselves why Mr Trump is coming out with "America first" now, other than the America for the whole world that was professed by the establishment? Did some one ask Trump that question? Did some one listen to Trump's swearing in address? Just because the ruling elite has been defeated, means that there should be no life in Thomas Jefferson's America again. Wonderful America! My prayers goes with President Donald Trump Agien Nyangkwe (Aaron) On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Arsène Tungali wrote: > I think it is still fine if he only apply this in the context of the US (i > mean within the US borders). There is a way he can form a > multistakeholderism process within the country and still be able to fulfill > his America-First wish > > ------------------------ > **Arsène Tungali** > Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > *, > CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum > * > Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> > GPG: 523644A0 > *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > > 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > > (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > > & Mexico > ) > - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger > - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > & Marrakech > > ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius > > )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK > > > 2017-01-30 4:35 GMT+02:00 Michael Gurstein : > >> A question, what does Multistakeholderism looking like in the context of >> Mr. Trump’s America First-ism? >> >> >> >> Asking for a friend… >> >> >> >> M >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Aaron Agien NYANGKWE P.O.Box 5213 Douala-Cameroon Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nicocamarao at gmail.com Mon Jan 30 08:43:07 2017 From: nicocamarao at gmail.com (Nicolas Fiumarelli) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 10:43:07 -0300 Subject: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump In-Reply-To: References: <015c01d27aa1$979678f0$c6c36ad0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello List, As most of you know, The United States, at the time of the next IETF meeting in Chicago, will still have the executive order that prevents anyone from seven designated countries from entering. Referring to a post from the IETF general list, and looking back over past IETF meetings, you can see at least 18 different attendees (12 from Iran, 2 from Libya, 2 from Somalia, 1 from Yemen, And 1 from Sudan) who would be barred from attending the Chicago meeting *in person*. Following the Multistakeholder Principles and Rights we all have in mind I think it is appropriate for the IETF to respond to the United States' ban on people in Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Yemen. The question that came out from the list is, When this happens, is there any specific action that can be taken? It is not clear to me, it is obviously impractical to cancel or move the meeting with so much notice. We all know how many Iranians are world-class technologists, including computer science and engineering, and in order to respect the diversity of participation in these events, what efforts are being made? What do we think about this? How this affects the Multistakeholder Model we are trying to preserve. Nicolas Fiumarelli, from Uruguay, talking on behalf of Youth IGF Uruguay. - 2017-01-30 10:29 GMT-03:00 Nyangkwe Agien Aaron : > Hi all > > Why don't we ask ourselves why Mr Trump is coming out with "America first" > now, other than the America for the whole world that was professed by the > establishment? > > Did some one ask Trump that question? Did some one listen to Trump's > swearing in address? > > Just because the ruling elite has been defeated, means that there should > be no life in Thomas Jefferson's America again. > > Wonderful America! > > My prayers goes with President Donald Trump > > Agien Nyangkwe (Aaron) > > On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Arsène Tungali > wrote: > >> I think it is still fine if he only apply this in the context of the US >> (i mean within the US borders). There is a way he can form a >> multistakeholderism process within the country and still be able to fulfill >> his America-First wish >> >> ------------------------ >> **Arsène Tungali** >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >> *, >> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum >> * >> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> >> GPG: 523644A0 >> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >> >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >> >> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >> >> & Mexico >> ) >> - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger >> - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >> & Marrakech >> >> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >> >> )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >> >> >> 2017-01-30 4:35 GMT+02:00 Michael Gurstein : >> >>> A question, what does Multistakeholderism looking like in the context of >>> Mr. Trump’s America First-ism? >>> >>> >>> >>> Asking for a friend… >>> >>> >>> >>> M >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > > -- > Aaron Agien NYANGKWE > P.O.Box 5213 > Douala-Cameroon > Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nb at bollow.ch Mon Jan 30 09:36:46 2017 From: nb at bollow.ch (Norbert Bollow) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 15:36:46 +0100 Subject: [governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20170130153646.1fbf78eb@quill> Dear Arsène and all After a quick exchange with Mawaki, I'm happy to report that Mawaki and I are willing to work out a joint proposal. In regard to who the letter should be addressed to, Mawaki and I think that the statement should be addressed to ISOC Cameroon. At the most, we can cc ISOC Global for the record. As made clear in the communication excerpts forwarded by Arsène, ISOC Global is already taking action and Chapter office holders are volunteers who are not bound to the organization by a required line of conduct as would be expected from staff of ISOC Global. Therefore we cannot reasonably hold the global organization accountable for any Chapter official's position and put them in the position to be answerable about it -- which will appear as being the case if we address a letter to ISOC Global, -- especially when their response is already known. We think that the statement should be short and narrowly focused, and articulated on the basis of some basic principles which should be sufficiently self-evident to not need any in-depth debate in IGC. You may expect us to post proposed text shortly. Greetings, Norbert On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:02:56 +0200 Arsène Tungali wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > Starting a new thread. > > I would like to thank everyone for raising your concern about what's > going on in Cameroon which is just another country added to the list > of African countries that have experienced Internet shutdown. I am > from the DRC and we have experienced this more than 3 times and I am > in the best position to highly condem this new form of oppression. > > I would also like to thank everyone who have expressed their concern > over what Mr. Janvier had to say about the shutdown in his country, > where he volunteerly serve as ISOC Cameroon President. I join you all > and condemn his position on this, which I can assure you, is his own > position, not shared by his other colleagues at theISOC Chapter. > Proof is he reacted to his other colleague who had a different view > and who was making an appeal, asking for more coverage and action > regarding what's going on in his country. > > For your information, ISOC has issued a statement > > condemning the shutdown in Cameroon as well as in other countries. > This show that ISOC, as an organization, does not support shutdowns > but rather condem it firmly (as we all know). > > And, on a different mailing list, Mr. Nicolas Seidler > , > who is Senior Policy Advisor for ISOC said the following: > > We felt it was time to formally express our long-standing concerns on > such measures, in the context of the Cameroon situation and in view > of others to come up in the future. We are also supporting and giving > visibility to efforts from Access and members of the Keep it on > campaign on our social media channels. > > And he reacted on Mr. Janvier's stance and ONLY had this to say: > Finally, we have an ISOC Chapter in Cameroon, as in many other parts > of the worlds. While not all members of Chapters share the same view > (a Chapter is made of local volunteers, not staff), there are some > who want to act and we’ll make sure to direct them to Deji, Julie and > others involved in the advocacy effort. > > >From the above, we understand that it was a personal point of view > >from Mr. > Janvier which, as most of our colleagues said here, is completely > wrong. I do personally believe that when a single person is > restricted access, this should be raised and condemned. In Cameroon, > we have 2 regions affected and this is terrible. > > > > *Now, coming back to the discussion on this list regarding a > statement, I would like to suggest the following:* > 1. We can issue a statement adressed to ISOC Global (to ISOC Executive > Director for example) condemning the public stance taken by ISOC > Cameroon President. May I suggest *Norbert and Mawaki* to make an > initial draft statement and share with us within the next 48 hours > (if at all possible)? > > 2. We then issue a more general statement condemning Internet shutdown > across the world as a civil society coalition because I am sure this > is the new form of opression that Gov are taking (as said by > Snowden). It will be very useful we use the expertise we have here to > draft this and circulate it widely in all networks as a way to > condemn the act but also to raise awareness about the issue (which is > still unfamiliar with those who are not actively involved in these > discussions or who have never experienced any shutdown). *For this, I > would like to ask request few volunteers to make an initial draft > statement as well?* > > Please do let me know what you think or if there is another approach > that we can all agree on and take action without wassting more time. > If you want to be part of the team of 3 to draft the second > statement, please do let us know on this list within the next 48 > hours. > > Very best, > > Arsene, IGC Co-cooordinator > ------------------------ > **Arsène Tungali** > Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > *, > CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa > Forum * > Tel: +243 993810967 > GPG: 523644A0 > *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > > 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > > (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > > & Mexico > ) > - AFRISIG 2016 - > Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > & Marrakech > > ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius > )* > - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ircpresident at gmail.com Mon Jan 30 09:54:26 2017 From: ircpresident at gmail.com (Mohamed ElGohary) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 16:54:26 +0200 Subject: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump In-Reply-To: References: <015c01d27aa1$979678f0$c6c36ad0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I think this is a good move for starters: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeNN_2HHREt1h-dm_CgWpFHw8NDPGLCkOwB4lLRFtKFJqI25w/viewform ᐧ On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Nicolas Fiumarelli wrote: > Hello List, > > As most of you know, > > The United States, at the time of the next IETF meeting in Chicago, will > still have the executive order that prevents anyone from seven designated > countries from entering. Referring to a post from the IETF general list, > and looking back over past IETF meetings, you can see at least 18 different > attendees (12 from Iran, 2 from Libya, 2 from Somalia, 1 from Yemen, And 1 > from Sudan) who would be barred from attending the Chicago meeting *in > person*. > > Following the Multistakeholder Principles and Rights we all have in mind I > think it is appropriate for the IETF to respond to the United States' ban > on people in Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Yemen. > > The question that came out from the list is, When this > happens, is there any specific action that can be taken? It is not clear to > me, it is obviously impractical to cancel or move the meeting with so much > notice. > > We all know how many Iranians are world-class technologists, including > computer science and engineering, and in order to respect the diversity of > participation in these events, what efforts are being made? > > What do we think about this? How this affects the Multistakeholder Model > we are trying to preserve. > > Nicolas Fiumarelli, from Uruguay, talking on behalf of Youth IGF Uruguay. > > - > > > 2017-01-30 10:29 GMT-03:00 Nyangkwe Agien Aaron : > >> Hi all >> >> Why don't we ask ourselves why Mr Trump is coming out with "America >> first" now, other than the America for the whole world that was professed >> by the establishment? >> >> Did some one ask Trump that question? Did some one listen to Trump's >> swearing in address? >> >> Just because the ruling elite has been defeated, means that there should >> be no life in Thomas Jefferson's America again. >> >> Wonderful America! >> >> My prayers goes with President Donald Trump >> >> Agien Nyangkwe (Aaron) >> >> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Arsène Tungali >> wrote: >> >>> I think it is still fine if he only apply this in the context of the US >>> (i mean within the US borders). There is a way he can form a >>> multistakeholderism process within the country and still be able to fulfill >>> his America-First wish >>> >>> ------------------------ >>> **Arsène Tungali** >>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >>> *, >>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa >>> Forum * >>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> >>> GPG: 523644A0 >>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >>> >>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >>> >>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >>> >>> & Mexico >>> ) >>> - AFRISIG 2016 - >>> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >>> & Marrakech >>> >>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >>> >>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >>> >>> >>> 2017-01-30 4:35 GMT+02:00 Michael Gurstein : >>> >>>> A question, what does Multistakeholderism looking like in the context >>>> of Mr. Trump’s America First-ism? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Asking for a friend… >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> M >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Aaron Agien NYANGKWE >> P.O.Box 5213 >> Douala-Cameroon >> Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nyangkweagien at gmail.com Mon Jan 30 10:17:54 2017 From: nyangkweagien at gmail.com (Nyangkwe Agien Aaron) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 16:17:54 +0100 Subject: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump In-Reply-To: References: <015c01d27aa1$979678f0$c6c36ad0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the info In all fairness where were all these signatories when president Obama banned Iraqi refugees from entering America for six months in 2011. Who are these intellectuals fooling? The establishment must understand that everything has a beginning and an end. History is our best teache Agien Nyangkwe On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Mohamed ElGohary wrote: > I think this is a good move for starters: https://docs.google. > com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeNN_2HHREt1h-dm_CgWpFHw8NDPGLCkOwB4lLRFtKFJqI2 > 5w/viewform > ᐧ > > On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Nicolas Fiumarelli > wrote: > >> Hello List, >> >> As most of you know, >> >> The United States, at the time of the next IETF meeting in Chicago, will >> still have the executive order that prevents anyone from seven designated >> countries from entering. Referring to a post from the IETF general list, >> and looking back over past IETF meetings, you can see at least 18 different >> attendees (12 from Iran, 2 from Libya, 2 from Somalia, 1 from Yemen, And 1 >> from Sudan) who would be barred from attending the Chicago meeting *in >> person*. >> >> Following the Multistakeholder Principles and Rights we all have in mind >> I think it is appropriate for the IETF to respond to the United States' ban >> on people in Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Yemen. >> >> The question that came out from the list is, When this >> happens, is there any specific action that can be taken? It is not clear to >> me, it is obviously impractical to cancel or move the meeting with so much >> notice. >> >> We all know how many Iranians are world-class technologists, including >> computer science and engineering, and in order to respect the diversity of >> participation in these events, what efforts are being made? >> >> What do we think about this? How this affects the Multistakeholder Model >> we are trying to preserve. >> >> Nicolas Fiumarelli, from Uruguay, talking on behalf of Youth IGF Uruguay. >> >> - >> >> >> 2017-01-30 10:29 GMT-03:00 Nyangkwe Agien Aaron >> : >> >>> Hi all >>> >>> Why don't we ask ourselves why Mr Trump is coming out with "America >>> first" now, other than the America for the whole world that was professed >>> by the establishment? >>> >>> Did some one ask Trump that question? Did some one listen to Trump's >>> swearing in address? >>> >>> Just because the ruling elite has been defeated, means that there should >>> be no life in Thomas Jefferson's America again. >>> >>> Wonderful America! >>> >>> My prayers goes with President Donald Trump >>> >>> Agien Nyangkwe (Aaron) >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Arsène Tungali >> > wrote: >>> >>>> I think it is still fine if he only apply this in the context of the US >>>> (i mean within the US borders). There is a way he can form a >>>> multistakeholderism process within the country and still be able to fulfill >>>> his America-First wish >>>> >>>> ------------------------ >>>> **Arsène Tungali** >>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >>>> *, >>>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa >>>> Forum * >>>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> >>>> GPG: 523644A0 >>>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >>>> >>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >>>> >>>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >>>> >>>> & Mexico >>>> ) >>>> - AFRISIG 2016 - >>>> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >>>> & Marrakech >>>> >>>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >>>> >>>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >>>> >>>> >>>> 2017-01-30 4:35 GMT+02:00 Michael Gurstein : >>>> >>>>> A question, what does Multistakeholderism looking like in the context >>>>> of Mr. Trump’s America First-ism? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Asking for a friend… >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> M >>>>> >>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>> >>>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>> >>>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Aaron Agien NYANGKWE >>> P.O.Box 5213 >>> Douala-Cameroon >>> Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 <6%2073%2042%2071%2027> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Aaron Agien NYANGKWE P.O.Box 5213 Douala-Cameroon Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From daveb at dslprime.com Mon Jan 30 10:25:17 2017 From: daveb at dslprime.com (Dave Burstein) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 10:25:17 -0500 Subject: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump In-Reply-To: References: <015c01d27aa1$979678f0$c6c36ad0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: There is an active discussion on the main IETF mailing list on whether the IETF has to move the Puerto Rico meeting next year. Anyone can join the IETF mailing list and weigh in. The (apparent) rules for selecting a venue include a "mandatory" review of whether "Travel barriers to entry, e.g., visa requirements that can limit participation, are acceptable." Please do weigh in on the discussion in IETF and ISOC. On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron < nyangkweagien at gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for the info > > In all fairness where were all these signatories when president Obama > banned Iraqi refugees from entering America for six months in 2011. > > Who are these intellectuals fooling? > > The establishment must understand that everything has a beginning and an > end. History is our best teache > > Agien Nyangkwe > > On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Mohamed ElGohary > wrote: > >> I think this is a good move for starters: https://docs.google. >> com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeNN_2HHREt1h-dm_CgWpFHw8NDPGLCkOwB4lLR >> FtKFJqI25w/viewform >> ᐧ >> >> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Nicolas Fiumarelli < >> nicocamarao at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hello List, >>> >>> As most of you know, >>> >>> The United States, at the time of the next IETF meeting in Chicago, will >>> still have the executive order that prevents anyone from seven designated >>> countries from entering. Referring to a post from the IETF general list, >>> and looking back over past IETF meetings, you can see at least 18 different >>> attendees (12 from Iran, 2 from Libya, 2 from Somalia, 1 from Yemen, And 1 >>> from Sudan) who would be barred from attending the Chicago meeting *in >>> person*. >>> >>> Following the Multistakeholder Principles and Rights we all have in mind >>> I think it is appropriate for the IETF to respond to the United States' ban >>> on people in Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Yemen. >>> >>> The question that came out from the list is, When this >>> happens, is there any specific action that can be taken? It is not clear to >>> me, it is obviously impractical to cancel or move the meeting with so much >>> notice. >>> >>> We all know how many Iranians are world-class technologists, including >>> computer science and engineering, and in order to respect the diversity of >>> participation in these events, what efforts are being made? >>> >>> What do we think about this? How this affects the Multistakeholder Model >>> we are trying to preserve. >>> >>> Nicolas Fiumarelli, from Uruguay, talking on behalf of Youth IGF Uruguay. >>> >>> - >>> >>> >>> 2017-01-30 10:29 GMT-03:00 Nyangkwe Agien Aaron >> >: >>> >>>> Hi all >>>> >>>> Why don't we ask ourselves why Mr Trump is coming out with "America >>>> first" now, other than the America for the whole world that was professed >>>> by the establishment? >>>> >>>> Did some one ask Trump that question? Did some one listen to Trump's >>>> swearing in address? >>>> >>>> Just because the ruling elite has been defeated, means that there >>>> should be no life in Thomas Jefferson's America again. >>>> >>>> Wonderful America! >>>> >>>> My prayers goes with President Donald Trump >>>> >>>> Agien Nyangkwe (Aaron) >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Arsène Tungali < >>>> arsenebaguma at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think it is still fine if he only apply this in the context of the >>>>> US (i mean within the US borders). There is a way he can form a >>>>> multistakeholderism process within the country and still be able to fulfill >>>>> his America-First wish >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------ >>>>> **Arsène Tungali** >>>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >>>>> *, >>>>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa >>>>> Forum * >>>>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> >>>>> GPG: 523644A0 >>>>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >>>>> >>>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >>>>> >>>>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >>>>> >>>>> & Mexico >>>>> ) >>>>> - AFRISIG 2016 - >>>>> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >>>>> & Marrakech >>>>> >>>>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >>>>> >>>>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2017-01-30 4:35 GMT+02:00 Michael Gurstein : >>>>> >>>>>> A question, what does Multistakeholderism looking like in the context >>>>>> of Mr. Trump’s America First-ism? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Asking for a friend… >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> M >>>>>> >>>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>>> >>>>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>> >>>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>> >>>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Aaron Agien NYANGKWE >>>> P.O.Box 5213 >>>> Douala-Cameroon >>>> Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 <6%2073%2042%2071%2027> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > > -- > Aaron Agien NYANGKWE > P.O.Box 5213 > Douala-Cameroon > Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Editor, Fast Net News, 5GW News, Net Policy News and DSL Prime Author with Jennie Bourne DSL (Wiley) and Web Video: Making It Great, Getting It Noticed (Peachpit) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From mshears at cdt.org Mon Jan 30 10:33:31 2017 From: mshears at cdt.org (matthew shears) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 16:33:31 +0100 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Second WGEC meeting26-27 January 2017, Geneva In-Reply-To: References: <08da0df2-1f5a-d7e4-d5ff-b15e839d8f9c@apc.org> <5a0b4d2f-e8d0-e1f7-3186-53743f9a2d0d@apc.org> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B2A5@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <06BFEAAB-49C7-4949-974A-40B10B9ECB3D@consensus.pro> <1260683256.4328330.1485538688317@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: + 1 Anriette - very nicely summarized. On 30/01/2017 14:16, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote: > Dear Wangari > > Apologies for delay in responding. > > It is an interesting question, and it goes to the heart of the enhanced > cooperation debate, which in many ways is at the heart of the internet > governance debate that has been ongoing since 2003. > > The term was first used in 2005 - and it means different things to > different people, and the text in the Tunis Agenda where it is first > references in a formal UN agreement, can also be interpreted in > different ways. > > For the last decade it has been used as a political football.. in one of > those matches in which it is not clear if anyone actually scores any > goals. In fact, for some of the players, the objective of the match has > been to avoid anyone scoring any goals :) > > This is a good recent piece by David Souter: > https://www.apc.org/en/blog/inside-information-society-enhanced-cooperation-en > > I quote from it: > > "‘Enhanced cooperation’, like the Internet Governance Forum (IGF), was > part of the compromise on the future of the Internet at WSIS in 2005. > Agreement could not be reached on the governance of critical Internet > resources, including the domain name system. ICANN (the Internet > Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers), for some governments, was > little more than an adjunct of the United States. Some wanted the > Internet brought within the ambit of an intergovernmental (or > multilateral) agency such as the International Telecommunication Union > (ITU). Others were, as they remain, determined to keep the Internet free > from intergovernmental oversight. As well as dividing governments, this > was (and is) therefore a tussle between multilateral and > multistakeholder approaches to the Internet. > > The term worked at the time because of its creative ambiguity: like many > UN outcomes it meant different things to different folks. But the > contests that it overlay were, and still are, unresolved. Several UN > initiatives and working groups have failed to reach consensus on it > since the Summit. Some governments (and civil society activists) claim > that nothing’s changed since WSIS: that governments, particularly > developing country governments, can’t play a substantive role in > Internet decisions because there is no proper intergovernmental forum. > Others suggest that diverse multistakeholder initiatives represent a lot > of ‘enhanced cooperation’ that’s already taking place." > > So in response to your question, it is not a new thing that for several > governments, the meaning of enhanced cooperation is "cooperation between > governments". And the term 'equal footing' means that all governments > should have equal access and voice in these processes. > > They generally quote paragraph 69 of the Tunis Agenda: > > "69. We further recognize the need for enhanced cooperation in the > future, to enable governments, on an equal footing, to carry out their > roles and responsibilities, in international public policy issues > pertaining to the Internet, but not in the day-to-day technical and > operational matters, that do not impact on international public policy > issues." > > And their position is that the IGF has nothing to do with this type of > cooperation. > > Personally, I think this is misinterpreting the Tunis Agenda. If you > read the two previous paragraphs, 67 and 68, there is a clear reference > to the IGF (referred to in the Tunis Agenda as "the forum for > multi-stakeholder policy dialogue". I quote: > > "67. We agree, inter alia, to invite the UN Secretary-General to convene > a new forum for multi-stakeholder policy dialogue. > > 68. We recognize that all governments should have an equal role and > responsibility for international Internet governance and for ensuring > the stability, security and continuity of the Internet. We also > recognize the need for development of public policy by governments in > consultation with all stakeholders. > > 69. We further recognize the need for enhanced cooperation in the > future, to enable governments, on an equal footing, to carry out their > roles and responsibilities, in international public policy issues > pertaining to the Internet, but not in the day-to-day technical and > operational matters, that do not impact on international public policy > issues." > > My interpretation would be that these paragraphs talks about the forum, > about involvement of all stakeholders, and about the need for > governments to be able to play their role in international public policy. > > These area all important and legitimate and they don't need to be > mutually exclusive. > > But there are different views, and there was a General Assembly > resolution in 2011 or 2012 which stated that the IGF and enhanced > cooperation are two separate processes. > > I do think governments have a legitimate point in saying that they need > a space where they can talk about 'cross cutting' internet-related > public policy issues. Specific issues are being addressed in places like > the Human Rights Council (for internet and human rights issues) or in > WIPO (for copyright related issues, for example). > > And I also think that developing countries are not sufficiently > empowered or influential in most internet-related policy discussions. > > I just don't believe that setting up a new intergovernmental mechanism > is the right solution to this problem. And it is one that is high risk > for civil society. > > But others in the WGEC have different views. > > Warm greetings and thanks for following the meeting! > > Anriette > > > > On 27/01/2017 19:38, WANGARI KABIRU wrote: >> Warm greetings Anriette, >> >> In the morning there was reference in the semblance that enhanced >> cooperation is a government area not for the IGF...MAG. >> Would you kindly shed light. >> >> >> The comments; >> - that statistics in developing countries are a result of tradeoffs and >> thus not (necessarily) reliable >> - how an entity is considered multi-stakeholder in one forum and in >> other spheres not viewed as such. Taking into account >> multi-stakholderism is a key tenet in Internet Governance >> >> Many thanks for the briefs. >> >> Be blessed. >> >> Regards/Wangari >> >> --- >> Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored >> Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God >> on Earth". >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -- ------------ Matthew Shears Global Internet Policy and Human Rights Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) + 44 771 2472987 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From arsenebaguma at gmail.com Mon Jan 30 10:54:30 2017 From: arsenebaguma at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne_Tungali?=) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:54:30 +0200 Subject: [governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter? In-Reply-To: <20170130153646.1fbf78eb@quill> References: <20170130153646.1fbf78eb@quill> Message-ID: Dear Norbert, Thanks for Mawaki and yourself for willing to take on this task. I am happy with the process as you suggest it (with the hope that everyone is happy as well): writing to ISOC Cameroon with cc to ISOC Global. Please do send us the draft once finalized and we will allow at least 24 hours for the IGC to comment before this can be sent. Please do share it in a Google Drive (do not allow edit by anyone but just allow people to make contributions in form of comments in the margins of the doc). Regards, A ------------------------ **Arsène Tungali** Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international *, CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum * Tel: +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico ) - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK 2017-01-30 16:36 GMT+02:00 Norbert Bollow : > Dear Arsène and all > > After a quick exchange with Mawaki, I'm happy to report that Mawaki and > I are willing to work out a joint proposal. > > In regard to who the letter should be addressed to, Mawaki and I think > that the statement should be addressed to ISOC Cameroon. At the most, we > can cc ISOC Global for the record. As made clear in the communication > excerpts forwarded by Arsène, ISOC Global is already taking action and > Chapter office holders are volunteers who are not bound to the > organization by a required line of conduct as would be expected from > staff of ISOC Global. Therefore we cannot reasonably hold the global > organization accountable for any Chapter official's position and put > them in the position to be answerable about it -- which will appear as > being the case if we address a letter to ISOC Global, -- especially > when their response is already known. > > We think that the statement should be short and narrowly focused, and > articulated on the basis of some basic principles which should be > sufficiently self-evident to not need any in-depth debate in IGC. > > You may expect us to post proposed text shortly. > > Greetings, > Norbert > > > > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:02:56 +0200 > Arsène Tungali wrote: > > > Dear colleagues, > > > > Starting a new thread. > > > > I would like to thank everyone for raising your concern about what's > > going on in Cameroon which is just another country added to the list > > of African countries that have experienced Internet shutdown. I am > > from the DRC and we have experienced this more than 3 times and I am > > in the best position to highly condem this new form of oppression. > > > > I would also like to thank everyone who have expressed their concern > > over what Mr. Janvier had to say about the shutdown in his country, > > where he volunteerly serve as ISOC Cameroon President. I join you all > > and condemn his position on this, which I can assure you, is his own > > position, not shared by his other colleagues at theISOC Chapter. > > Proof is he reacted to his other colleague who had a different view > > and who was making an appeal, asking for more coverage and action > > regarding what's going on in his country. > > > > For your information, ISOC has issued a statement > > bufferc442c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer> > > condemning the shutdown in Cameroon as well as in other countries. > > This show that ISOC, as an organization, does not support shutdowns > > but rather condem it firmly (as we all know). > > > > And, on a different mailing list, Mr. Nicolas Seidler > > , > > who is Senior Policy Advisor for ISOC said the following: > > > > We felt it was time to formally express our long-standing concerns on > > such measures, in the context of the Cameroon situation and in view > > of others to come up in the future. We are also supporting and giving > > visibility to efforts from Access and members of the Keep it on > > campaign on our social media channels. > > > > And he reacted on Mr. Janvier's stance and ONLY had this to say: > > Finally, we have an ISOC Chapter in Cameroon, as in many other parts > > of the worlds. While not all members of Chapters share the same view > > (a Chapter is made of local volunteers, not staff), there are some > > who want to act and we’ll make sure to direct them to Deji, Julie and > > others involved in the advocacy effort. > > > > >From the above, we understand that it was a personal point of view > > >from Mr. > > Janvier which, as most of our colleagues said here, is completely > > wrong. I do personally believe that when a single person is > > restricted access, this should be raised and condemned. In Cameroon, > > we have 2 regions affected and this is terrible. > > > > > > > > *Now, coming back to the discussion on this list regarding a > > statement, I would like to suggest the following:* > > 1. We can issue a statement adressed to ISOC Global (to ISOC Executive > > Director for example) condemning the public stance taken by ISOC > > Cameroon President. May I suggest *Norbert and Mawaki* to make an > > initial draft statement and share with us within the next 48 hours > > (if at all possible)? > > > > 2. We then issue a more general statement condemning Internet shutdown > > across the world as a civil society coalition because I am sure this > > is the new form of opression that Gov are taking (as said by > > Snowden). It will be very useful we use the expertise we have here to > > draft this and circulate it widely in all networks as a way to > > condemn the act but also to raise awareness about the issue (which is > > still unfamiliar with those who are not actively involved in these > > discussions or who have never experienced any shutdown). *For this, I > > would like to ask request few volunteers to make an initial draft > > statement as well?* > > > > Please do let me know what you think or if there is another approach > > that we can all agree on and take action without wassting more time. > > If you want to be part of the team of 3 to draft the second > > statement, please do let us know on this list within the next 48 > > hours. > > > > Very best, > > > > Arsene, IGC Co-cooordinator > > ------------------------ > > **Arsène Tungali** > > Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > > *, > > CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa > > Forum * > > Tel: +243 993810967 > > GPG: 523644A0 > > *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > > > > 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > > mandela-washington.html> > > (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > > leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf- > ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors> > > & Mexico > > leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>) > > - AFRISIG 2016 - > > Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > > & Marrakech > > attendees-2016-03-14-en> > > ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius > > fellowship-winners>)* > > - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From arsenebaguma at gmail.com Mon Jan 30 11:22:07 2017 From: arsenebaguma at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne_Tungali?=) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 18:22:07 +0200 Subject: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump In-Reply-To: References: <015c01d27aa1$979678f0$c6c36ad0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Dave, How can we join the list? Please do share the link. Regards, A ------------------------ **Arsène Tungali** Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international *, CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum * Tel: +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico ) - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK 2017-01-30 17:25 GMT+02:00 Dave Burstein : > There is an active discussion on the main IETF mailing list on whether the > IETF has to move the Puerto Rico meeting next year. Anyone can join the > IETF mailing list and weigh in. > > The (apparent) rules for selecting a venue include a "mandatory" review of > whether "Travel barriers to entry, e.g., visa requirements that can > limit participation, are acceptable." > > Please do weigh in on the discussion in IETF and ISOC. > > On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron < > nyangkweagien at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks for the info >> >> In all fairness where were all these signatories when president Obama >> banned Iraqi refugees from entering America for six months in 2011. >> >> Who are these intellectuals fooling? >> >> The establishment must understand that everything has a beginning and an >> end. History is our best teache >> >> Agien Nyangkwe >> >> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Mohamed ElGohary > > wrote: >> >>> I think this is a good move for starters: https://docs.google. >>> com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeNN_2HHREt1h-dm_CgWpFHw8NDPGLCkOwB4lLR >>> FtKFJqI25w/viewform >>> ᐧ >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Nicolas Fiumarelli < >>> nicocamarao at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello List, >>>> >>>> As most of you know, >>>> >>>> The United States, at the time of the next IETF meeting in Chicago, >>>> will still have the executive order that prevents anyone from seven >>>> designated countries from entering. Referring to a post from the IETF >>>> general list, and looking back over past IETF meetings, you can see at >>>> least 18 different attendees (12 from Iran, 2 from Libya, 2 from Somalia, 1 >>>> from Yemen, And 1 from Sudan) who would be barred from attending the >>>> Chicago meeting *in person*. >>>> >>>> Following the Multistakeholder Principles and Rights we all have in >>>> mind I think it is appropriate for the IETF to respond to the United >>>> States' ban on people in Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Yemen. >>>> >>>> The question that came out from the list is, When this >>>> happens, is there any specific action that can be taken? It is not clear to >>>> me, it is obviously impractical to cancel or move the meeting with so much >>>> notice. >>>> >>>> We all know how many Iranians are world-class technologists, including >>>> computer science and engineering, and in order to respect the diversity of >>>> participation in these events, what efforts are being made? >>>> >>>> What do we think about this? How this affects the Multistakeholder >>>> Model we are trying to preserve. >>>> >>>> Nicolas Fiumarelli, from Uruguay, talking on behalf of Youth IGF >>>> Uruguay. >>>> >>>> - >>>> >>>> >>>> 2017-01-30 10:29 GMT-03:00 Nyangkwe Agien Aaron < >>>> nyangkweagien at gmail.com>: >>>> >>>>> Hi all >>>>> >>>>> Why don't we ask ourselves why Mr Trump is coming out with "America >>>>> first" now, other than the America for the whole world that was professed >>>>> by the establishment? >>>>> >>>>> Did some one ask Trump that question? Did some one listen to Trump's >>>>> swearing in address? >>>>> >>>>> Just because the ruling elite has been defeated, means that there >>>>> should be no life in Thomas Jefferson's America again. >>>>> >>>>> Wonderful America! >>>>> >>>>> My prayers goes with President Donald Trump >>>>> >>>>> Agien Nyangkwe (Aaron) >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Arsène Tungali < >>>>> arsenebaguma at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think it is still fine if he only apply this in the context of the >>>>>> US (i mean within the US borders). There is a way he can form a >>>>>> multistakeholderism process within the country and still be able to fulfill >>>>>> his America-First wish >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------ >>>>>> **Arsène Tungali** >>>>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >>>>>> *, >>>>>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa >>>>>> Forum * >>>>>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> >>>>>> GPG: 523644A0 >>>>>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >>>>>> >>>>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >>>>>> >>>>>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >>>>>> >>>>>> & Mexico >>>>>> ) >>>>>> - AFRISIG 2016 - >>>>>> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >>>>>> & Marrakech >>>>>> >>>>>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >>>>>> >>>>>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2017-01-30 4:35 GMT+02:00 Michael Gurstein : >>>>>> >>>>>>> A question, what does Multistakeholderism looking like in the >>>>>>> context of Mr. Trump’s America First-ism? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Asking for a friend… >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> M >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>>> >>>>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Aaron Agien NYANGKWE >>>>> P.O.Box 5213 >>>>> Douala-Cameroon >>>>> Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 <6%2073%2042%2071%2027> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>> >>>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>> >>>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Aaron Agien NYANGKWE >> P.O.Box 5213 >> Douala-Cameroon >> Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > > -- > Editor, Fast Net News, 5GW News, Net Policy News and DSL Prime > Author with Jennie Bourne DSL (Wiley) and Web Video: Making It Great, > Getting It Noticed (Peachpit) > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From parminder at itforchange.net Mon Jan 30 11:46:53 2017 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 22:16:53 +0530 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Second WGEC meeting26-27 January 2017, Geneva In-Reply-To: <1409939853.27071400.1485790654481@mail.yahoo.com> References: <08da0df2-1f5a-d7e4-d5ff-b15e839d8f9c@apc.org> <5a0b4d2f-e8d0-e1f7-3186-53743f9a2d0d@apc.org> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B2A5@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <06BFEAAB-49C7-4949-974A-40B10B9ECB3D@consensus.pro> <1260683256.4328330.1485538688317@mail.yahoo.com> <1409939853.27071400.1485790654481@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <885d58c9-a888-20aa-6ad1-3c91bc64b10f@itforchange.net> Hi All Let me share my views and assessment about the WG on Enhanced Cooperation, of which I was nominated by civil society to be a member. First of all, the central issue of what has been called as "enhanced cooperation" in Tunis Agenda is the need for developing international Internet related public policies. The central issue is not cooperation among whom - only governments, or across stakeholders' this is a secondary and a follow-up issue. What we therefore need to agree first is whether or not there is a need for developing international Internet-related public policies; in the same way that WHO does for health, UNESCO for education, UNEP for environment, UNDP for development, and so on. Do note that these UN agencies do not "control" the respective sectors worldwide, just because they are UN agencies tasked with dealing with these sectors internationally. I say this because the bogie of "control" of the Internet gets raised immediately as one proposes a similar UN body for looking into international public policy aspects for the Internet. For instance, education is almost as sensitive a sector, politically and culturally, as the Internet, but UNESCO is universally acknowledged to have done very good and useful work internationally in this sector - especially for developing countries - without "controlling" education. Now, if we agree that international Internet related public policies indeed need to be developed -- then we can come to question of who should do so. Public policy is a specific political construct. Every policy is not public policy - for instance, technical policies as developed by technical bodies is not public policy unless they are so designated by an authorised public body. Public policies are definitionally developed by government, or those who represent people or groups of people -- however imperfect be the process of such representation. The first para of the Wikipedia entry on "public policy" defines it as "*Public policy* is the principled guide to action taken by the administrative executive branches of the state with regard to a class of issues, in a manner consistent with law and institutional customs ." and the second para as; "Other scholars define public policy as a system of "courses of action, regulatory measures, laws , and funding priorities concerning a given topic promulgated by a governmental entity or its representatives." I hope we do not mean to redefine what is public policy. To get to the core of this issue; corporations cannot sit with governments on an equal footing to make public policy, which is what many people actually advocate here. We need to make our position clear on this one central issue, as civil society actors associated with IG. It is time we come out clean on this, and leave obfuscations behind. If we can agree on this one issue I am sure we can agree on all. Participation in public policy making, as inputting, advising, developing its initial discourse (as with the IGF) is an entirely different matter. That comes AFTER there comes into existence a mechanism for public policy making. For instance, there would be absolutely no point in developing an extensive public consultation, inputting, policy discussions, etc around health policies in a country if there existed no actual mechanism for making any such policy. That is the situation at the global level on Internet issues. We have well-developed mechanism for public policy dialogue on Internet issues in the form of the IGF, but have no place to actually develop such public policies. This renders the policy dialogue space itself increasingly less and less useful, as has been happening with the IGF. It was the express intent of Tunis Agenda to create a multistakeholder policy dialogue space (the IGF) and a governmental policy making space (the proposed new mechanism for "enhanced cooperation") as two distinct but conjoined institutional mechanisms. Any mis-conception in this regard was cleared by subsequent UN resolutions that expressly said that the IGF and "enhanced cooperation" were distinct but complementing spaces. The intended institutional design could not be clearer -- although I do admit that exactly how governments should develop International Internet-related public policies remain a contested issue. But this contestation is made much worse by actors who - for whatever reasons - keep confusing and conflating (1) pre- public policy development processes of inputs, advice, dialogue, etc, and (2) actual public policy development processes (where, as said, one certainly can not have corporations sit on equal footing with govs to make public policy). One earnestly hopes that it is time that we get out of this confusion/ conflation which has no basis in democratic political theory. Public policy has a specific political meaning and we cannot afford to use this term loosely. It is the very basis of democratic thinking, in that public policy can only be made by representatives of people, and groups of people. Corporations certainly have no vote here. On the other hand, everyone must be consulted, given a chance to input and participate in pre public policy dialogues, which happens at the IGF.. If we indeed agree to come out of this very problematic confusion/ conflation, we can then actually discuss what would be the best means to develop international Internet-related public policies, the real and in fact the only pertinent question under the "enhanced cooperation" related discussions. And this alone is the subject matter for the consideration of the WG on Enhanced Cooperation. Having given the needed background, I will describe what is happening at the WGEC in another email, in a short while. parminder On Monday 30 January 2017 09:07 PM, WANGARI KABIRU wrote: > Many thanks Anriette for the brief and the references are clarifying! > > Be blessed. > > Regards/Wangari > > --- > Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are > Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The > Kingdom of God on Earth". > > > On Monday, 30 January 2017, 16:16, Anriette Esterhuysen > wrote: > > > Dear Wangari > > Apologies for delay in responding. > > It is an interesting question, and it goes to the heart of the enhanced > cooperation debate, which in many ways is at the heart of the internet > governance debate that has been ongoing since 2003. > > The term was first used in 2005 - and it means different things to > different people, and the text in the Tunis Agenda where it is first > references in a formal UN agreement, can also be interpreted in > different ways. > > For the last decade it has been used as a political football.. in one of > those matches in which it is not clear if anyone actually scores any > goals. In fact, for some of the players, the objective of the match has > been to avoid anyone scoring any goals :) > > This is a good recent piece by David Souter: > https://www.apc.org/en/blog/inside-information-society-enhanced-cooperation-en > > I quote from it: > > "‘Enhanced cooperation’, like the Internet Governance Forum (IGF), was > part of the compromise on the future of the Internet at WSIS in 2005. > Agreement could not be reached on the governance of critical Internet > resources, including the domain name system. ICANN (the Internet > Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers), for some governments, was > little more than an adjunct of the United States. Some wanted the > Internet brought within the ambit of an intergovernmental (or > multilateral) agency such as the International Telecommunication Union > (ITU). Others were, as they remain, determined to keep the Internet free > from intergovernmental oversight. As well as dividing governments, this > was (and is) therefore a tussle between multilateral and > multistakeholder approaches to the Internet. > > The term worked at the time because of its creative ambiguity: like many > UN outcomes it meant different things to different folks. But the > contests that it overlay were, and still are, unresolved. Several UN > initiatives and working groups have failed to reach consensus on it > since the Summit. Some governments (and civil society activists) claim > that nothing’s changed since WSIS: that governments, particularly > developing country governments, can’t play a substantive role in > Internet decisions because there is no proper intergovernmental forum. > Others suggest that diverse multistakeholder initiatives represent a lot > of ‘enhanced cooperation’ that’s already taking place." > > So in response to your question, it is not a new thing that for several > governments, the meaning of enhanced cooperation is "cooperation between > governments". And the term 'equal footing' means that all governments > should have equal access and voice in these processes. > > They generally quote paragraph 69 of the Tunis Agenda: > > "69. We further recognize the need for enhanced cooperation in the > future, to enable governments, on an equal footing, to carry out their > roles and responsibilities, in international public policy issues > pertaining to the Internet, but not in the day-to-day technical and > operational matters, that do not impact on international public policy > issues." > > And their position is that the IGF has nothing to do with this type of > cooperation. > > Personally, I think this is misinterpreting the Tunis Agenda. If you > read the two previous paragraphs, 67 and 68, there is a clear reference > to the IGF (referred to in the Tunis Agenda as "the forum for > multi-stakeholder policy dialogue". I quote: > > "67. We agree, inter alia, to invite the UN Secretary-General to convene > a new forum for multi-stakeholder policy dialogue. > > 68. We recognize that all governments should have an equal role and > responsibility for international Internet governance and for ensuring > the stability, security and continuity of the Internet. We also > recognize the need for development of public policy by governments in > consultation with all stakeholders. > > 69. We further recognize the need for enhanced cooperation in the > future, to enable governments, on an equal footing, to carry out their > roles and responsibilities, in international public policy issues > pertaining to the Internet, but not in the day-to-day technical and > operational matters, that do not impact on international public policy > issues." > > My interpretation would be that these paragraphs talks about the forum, > about involvement of all stakeholders, and about the need for > governments to be able to play their role in international public policy. > > These area all important and legitimate and they don't need to be > mutually exclusive. > > But there are different views, and there was a General Assembly > resolution in 2011 or 2012 which stated that the IGF and enhanced > cooperation are two separate processes. > > I do think governments have a legitimate point in saying that they need > a space where they can talk about 'cross cutting' internet-related > public policy issues. Specific issues are being addressed in places like > the Human Rights Council (for internet and human rights issues) or in > WIPO (for copyright related issues, for example). > > And I also think that developing countries are not sufficiently > empowered or influential in most internet-related policy discussions. > > I just don't believe that setting up a new intergovernmental mechanism > is the right solution to this problem. And it is one that is high risk > for civil society. > > But others in the WGEC have different views. > > Warm greetings and thanks for following the meeting! > > Anriette > > > > On 27/01/2017 19:38, WANGARI KABIRU wrote: > > Warm greetings Anriette, > > > > In the morning there was reference in the semblance that enhanced > > cooperation is a government area not for the IGF...MAG. > > Would you kindly shed light. > > > > > > The comments; > > - that statistics in developing countries are a result of tradeoffs and > > thus not (necessarily) reliable > > - how an entity is considered multi-stakeholder in one forum and in > > other spheres not viewed as such. Taking into account > > multi-stakholderism is a key tenet in Internet Governance > > > > Many thanks for the briefs. > > > > Be blessed. > > > > Regards/Wangari > > > > --- > > Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored > > Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God > > on Earth". > > > > > > > -- > ----------------------------------------- > Anriette Esterhuysen > Executive Director > Association for Progressive Communications > anriette at apc.org > www.apc.org > IM: ae_apc > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de Mon Jan 30 11:49:39 2017 From: wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Kleinw=E4chter=2C_Wolfgang=22?=) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:49:39 +0100 Subject: AW: [governance] [bestbits] Second WGEC meeting26-27 January 2017, Geneva References: <08da0df2-1f5a-d7e4-d5ff-b15e839d8f9c@apc.org> <5a0b4d2f-e8d0-e1f7-3186-53743f9a2d0d@apc.org> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B2A5@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <06BFEAAB-49C7-4949-974A-40B10B9ECB3D@consensus.pro> <1260683256.4328330.1485538688317@mail.yahoo.com> <1409939853.27071400.1485790654481@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B2B1@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Hi Wangari Kabiro, if you want to know the full background and the history of the language of "EC", here is an article I wrote a couple of years ago in CircleID: http://www.circleid.com/posts/20131112_enhanced_cooperation_in_internet_governance_mystery_to_clarity/ What we have now (after the IANA transition) is the "Status Quo Minus": All governments are now on "equal footing": In the GAC, in the UN General Assembly, in the ITU or in UNESCO. With other words: Para. 69 is implemented. This is good for the Internet. But it is not good for some governments who do not like their advisory role in ICANN and want to heve a full oversight over Internet related public polcy issues. But please tell me, which "technical issue" in the Internet does not have a "public policy component"? Wolfgang -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: WANGARI KABIRU [mailto:wangarikabiru at yahoo.co.uk] Gesendet: Mo 30.01.2017 16:37 An: Anriette Esterhuysen; Nick Ashton-Hart; governance at lists.igcaucus.org IGC; Kleinwächter, Wolfgang Cc: Izumi AIZU; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net> APC Members Betreff: Re: [bestbits] [governance] Second WGEC meeting26-27 January 2017, Geneva Many thanks Anriette for the brief and the references are clarifying! Be blessed. Regards/Wangari --- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth". On Monday, 30 January 2017, 16:16, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote: Dear Wangari Apologies for delay in responding. It is an interesting question, and it goes to the heart of the enhanced cooperation debate, which in many ways is at the heart of the internet governance debate that has been ongoing since 2003. The term was first used in 2005 - and it means different things to different people, and the text in the Tunis Agenda where it is first references in a formal UN agreement, can also be interpreted in different ways. For the last decade it has been used as a political football.. in one of those matches in which it is not clear if anyone actually scores any goals. In fact, for some of the players, the objective of the match has been to avoid anyone scoring any goals :) This is a good recent piece by David Souter: https://www.apc.org/en/blog/inside-information-society-enhanced-cooperation-en I quote from it: "'Enhanced cooperation', like the Internet Governance Forum (IGF), was part of the compromise on the future of the Internet at WSIS in 2005. Agreement could not be reached on the governance of critical Internet resources, including the domain name system. ICANN (the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers), for some governments, was little more than an adjunct of the United States. Some wanted the Internet brought within the ambit of an intergovernmental (or multilateral) agency such as the International Telecommunication Union (ITU). Others were, as they remain, determined to keep the Internet free from intergovernmental oversight. As well as dividing governments, this was (and is) therefore a tussle between multilateral and multistakeholder approaches to the Internet. The term worked at the time because of its creative ambiguity: like many UN outcomes it meant different things to different folks. But the contests that it overlay were, and still are, unresolved. Several UN initiatives and working groups have failed to reach consensus on it since the Summit. Some governments (and civil society activists) claim that nothing's changed since WSIS: that governments, particularly developing country governments, can't play a substantive role in Internet decisions because there is no proper intergovernmental forum. Others suggest that diverse multistakeholder initiatives represent a lot of 'enhanced cooperation' that's already taking place." So in response to your question, it is not a new thing that for several governments, the meaning of enhanced cooperation is "cooperation between governments". And the term 'equal footing' means that all governments should have equal access and voice in these processes. They generally quote paragraph 69 of the Tunis Agenda: "69. We further recognize the need for enhanced cooperation in the future, to enable governments, on an equal footing, to carry out their roles and responsibilities, in international public policy issues pertaining to the Internet, but not in the day-to-day technical and operational matters, that do not impact on international public policy issues." And their position is that the IGF has nothing to do with this type of cooperation. Personally, I think this is misinterpreting the Tunis Agenda. If you read the two previous paragraphs, 67 and 68, there is a clear reference to the IGF (referred to in the Tunis Agenda as "the forum for multi-stakeholder policy dialogue". I quote: "67. We agree, inter alia, to invite the UN Secretary-General to convene a new forum for multi-stakeholder policy dialogue. 68. We recognize that all governments should have an equal role and responsibility for international Internet governance and for ensuring the stability, security and continuity of the Internet. We also recognize the need for development of public policy by governments in consultation with all stakeholders. 69. We further recognize the need for enhanced cooperation in the future, to enable governments, on an equal footing, to carry out their roles and responsibilities, in international public policy issues pertaining to the Internet, but not in the day-to-day technical and operational matters, that do not impact on international public policy issues." My interpretation would be that these paragraphs talks about the forum, about involvement of all stakeholders, and about the need for governments to be able to play their role in international public policy. These area all important and legitimate and they don't need to be mutually exclusive. But there are different views, and there was a General Assembly resolution in 2011 or 2012 which stated that the IGF and enhanced cooperation are two separate processes. I do think governments have a legitimate point in saying that they need a space where they can talk about 'cross cutting' internet-related public policy issues. Specific issues are being addressed in places like the Human Rights Council (for internet and human rights issues) or in WIPO (for copyright related issues, for example). And I also think that developing countries are not sufficiently empowered or influential in most internet-related policy discussions. I just don't believe that setting up a new intergovernmental mechanism is the right solution to this problem. And it is one that is high risk for civil society. But others in the WGEC have different views. Warm greetings and thanks for following the meeting! Anriette On 27/01/2017 19:38, WANGARI KABIRU wrote: > Warm greetings Anriette, > > In the morning there was reference in the semblance that enhanced > cooperation is a government area not for the IGF...MAG. > Would you kindly shed light. > > > The comments; > -  that statistics in developing countries are a result of tradeoffs and > thus not (necessarily) reliable > - how an entity is considered multi-stakeholder in one forum and in > other spheres not viewed as such. Taking into account > multi-stakholderism is a key tenet in Internet Governance > > Many thanks for the briefs. > > Be blessed. > > Regards/Wangari >  > --- > Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored > Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God > on Earth". > > > -- ----------------------------------------- Anriette Esterhuysen Executive Director Association for Progressive Communications anriette at apc.org www.apc.org IM: ae_apc -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Mon Jan 30 12:16:05 2017 From: gurstein at gmail.com (Michael Gurstein) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:16:05 -0800 Subject: [governance] FW: [liberationtech] DRL Internet Freedom pages hit the memory hole In-Reply-To: References: <47401e8ff776934bb6c6d0e2dea9497e@cryptolab.net> Message-ID: <052c01d27b1c$8ad9b570$a08d2050$@gmail.com> -----Original Message----- From: liberationtech [mailto:liberationtech-bounces at lists.stanford.edu] On Behalf Of Jayne Cravens Sent: January 30, 2017 8:54 AM To: liberationtech Subject: Re: [liberationtech] DRL Internet Freedom pages hit the memory hole On 2017-01-30 08:32, Griffin Boyce wrote: > Hi all, > > This morning, a colleague visited the DRL website only to find that > the content had been deleted. 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Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at companys at stanford.edu. -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From parminder at itforchange.net Mon Jan 30 12:21:57 2017 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 22:51:57 +0530 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Second WGEC meeting26-27 January 2017, Geneva In-Reply-To: <885d58c9-a888-20aa-6ad1-3c91bc64b10f@itforchange.net> References: <08da0df2-1f5a-d7e4-d5ff-b15e839d8f9c@apc.org> <5a0b4d2f-e8d0-e1f7-3186-53743f9a2d0d@apc.org> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B2A5@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <06BFEAAB-49C7-4949-974A-40B10B9ECB3D@consensus.pro> <1260683256.4328330.1485538688317@mail.yahoo.com> <1409939853.27071400.1485790654481@mail.yahoo.com> <885d58c9-a888-20aa-6ad1-3c91bc64b10f@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <7698d4ee-0f42-6958-bce2-915d27efbf41@itforchange.net> In the first meeting of the WGEC, in Sept 2016, the group simply came up with two questions, one was about what are the high level characteristics of "enhanced cooperation" and second asking what kind of recommendations the group can come up with. The second meeting last week looked into the responses and discussed them. The responses about the kind of recommendations that WGEC can come up with ranged from (1) seeking a new UN based mechanism/ body for developing Internet related public policies, to (2) hinting on some looser coordination mechanisms among many agencies that deal with some Internet related public policies issues, to (3) arguing that all that is needed is to develop some required qualities, like transparency, accountability, etc for bodies which already do various kinds of policy work in this area. Hopefully, as argued in my previous email, if we can indeed pull ourselves out of many age old confusions and inappropriate conflations in this area, this above takes us to the core of the issue. I understand that there a few possible positions different actors can take on this matter, but one should if possible commit to one or the other, and come out with clear institutional mechanism corresponding to that position (unless of course none is intended, which should be clearly stated). We have spent too much time in this morass, and going forward with greater clarity and responsibility would be highly desirable. We owe it to the world, which is being deeply impacted by the Internet phenomenon, which keep raising important and urgent public policy issues that beg to be addressed. I see the following possible positions in this matter. 1. No international Internet related public policies are required. 2. Even if they are required, different global bodies are already dealing with then adequately. In this regard either nothing more needs to be done, or, the WGEC can simply develop a series of desirable qualities or characteristics that all such institution/ processes must posses. Those holding such a view should, at this stage, come up with a precise method or mechanism they will like to follow to ensure that existing mechanisms/ processes do show such desired qualities, or at least how to persuade them to move in such a direction. 3. What is needed is some kind of a relatively loose coordination mechanism among the existing bodies etc dealing with Internet related international public policies. Those with such a view should come up with the precise mechanism that they have in mind for such coordination -- how does it work, where is it located, and so on. 4. A new committed institutional mechanism - in form of a new body/ agency - is needed for international internet-related public policies. Those with this view should give clear and precise proposals in this regard, where would such body be located, would it be a new one or a modified existing one, what would be its processes of taking in public inputs/ advices etc, what would be its relationship with the IGF, and so on. What I am tying to stress is that we need to be clear that this stage about what kind of global IG institutional architecture we want to see, especially in terms of international public policy processes, and come up with clear and precise institutional recommendations in this regard, with all the needed details. The above are some general categories with regard to possible positions on EC (enhanced cooperation). But we have seen some more specific proposals, or more appropriately hints or outlines of them. I would encourage those who have mentioned them to detail out what exactly is that they have in mind, how would it work etc. for instance, many have said here that an EC mechanism could be an extension of, under the umbrella of, or laterally conjoined with, the IGF process, taking place along with it. It will be useful to make a fully develop proposal ut of it, complete with the essential details. Some others hinted on the possibility of an EC mechanism under the Commission on Science and Technology for Development (CSTD). Similar elaboration would be useful in this case. Those who want a whole new relatively independent mechanism should similarly detail it out, as for instance my organisation has been doing for quite some time now. We again submitted it to the WGEC in response to the questionnaire. parminder On Monday 30 January 2017 10:16 PM, parminder wrote: > > Hi All > > Let me share my views and assessment about the WG on Enhanced > Cooperation, of which I was nominated by civil society to be a member. > > First of all, the central issue of what has been called as "enhanced > cooperation" in Tunis Agenda is the need for developing international > Internet related public policies. The central issue is not cooperation > among whom - only governments, or across stakeholders' this is a > secondary and a follow-up issue. > > What we therefore need to agree first is whether or not there is a > need for developing international Internet-related public policies; in > the same way that WHO does for health, UNESCO for education, UNEP for > environment, UNDP for development, and so on. > > Do note that these UN agencies do not "control" the respective sectors > worldwide, just because they are UN agencies tasked with dealing with > these sectors internationally. I say this because the bogie of > "control" of the Internet gets raised immediately as one proposes a > similar UN body for looking into international public policy aspects > for the Internet. For instance, education is almost as sensitive a > sector, politically and culturally, as the Internet, but UNESCO is > universally acknowledged to have done very good and useful work > internationally in this sector - especially for developing countries - > without "controlling" education. > > Now, if we agree that international Internet related public policies > indeed need to be developed -- then we can come to question of who > should do so. > > Public policy is a specific political construct. Every policy is not > public policy - for instance, technical policies as developed by > technical bodies is not public policy unless they are so designated by > an authorised public body. > > Public policies are definitionally developed by government, or those > who represent people or groups of people -- however imperfect be the > process of such representation. > > The first para of the Wikipedia entry on "public policy" defines it as > > "*Public policy* is the principled guide to action taken by the > administrative executive branches > of the > state with > regard to a class of issues, in a manner consistent with law > and institutional customs > ." > > and the second para as; > > "Other scholars define public policy as a system of "courses of > action, regulatory > measures, laws , and funding > priorities concerning a > given topic promulgated by a governmental entity or its > representatives." > > I hope we do not mean to redefine what is public policy. To get to the > core of this issue; corporations cannot sit with governments on an > equal footing to make public policy, which is what many people > actually advocate here. We need to make our position clear on this one > central issue, as civil society actors associated with IG. It is time > we come out clean on this, and leave obfuscations behind. If we can > agree on this one issue I am sure we can agree on all. > > Participation in public policy making, as inputting, advising, > developing its initial discourse (as with the IGF) is an entirely > different matter. That comes AFTER there comes into existence a > mechanism for public policy making. For instance, there would be > absolutely no point in developing an extensive public consultation, > inputting, policy discussions, etc around health policies in a country > if there existed no actual mechanism for making any such policy. > > That is the situation at the global level on Internet issues. We have > well-developed mechanism for public policy dialogue on Internet issues > in the form of the IGF, but have no place to actually develop such > public policies. This renders the policy dialogue space itself > increasingly less and less useful, as has been happening with the IGF. > > It was the express intent of Tunis Agenda to create a multistakeholder > policy dialogue space (the IGF) and a governmental policy making space > (the proposed new mechanism for "enhanced cooperation") as two > distinct but conjoined institutional mechanisms. Any mis-conception in > this regard was cleared by subsequent UN resolutions that expressly > said that the IGF and "enhanced cooperation" were distinct but > complementing spaces. The intended institutional design could not be > clearer -- although I do admit that exactly how governments should > develop International Internet-related public policies remain a > contested issue. > > But this contestation is made much worse by actors who - for whatever > reasons - keep confusing and conflating (1) pre- public policy > development processes of inputs, advice, dialogue, etc, and (2) actual > public policy development processes (where, as said, one certainly can > not have corporations sit on equal footing with govs to make public > policy). > > One earnestly hopes that it is time that we get out of this confusion/ > conflation which has no basis in democratic political theory. Public > policy has a specific political meaning and we cannot afford to use > this term loosely. It is the very basis of democratic thinking, in > that public policy can only be made by representatives of people, and > groups of people. Corporations certainly have no vote here. > > On the other hand, everyone must be consulted, given a chance to input > and participate in pre public policy dialogues, which happens at the IGF.. > > If we indeed agree to come out of this very problematic confusion/ > conflation, we can then actually discuss what would be the best means > to develop international Internet-related public policies, the real > and in fact the only pertinent question under the "enhanced > cooperation" related discussions. And this alone is the subject matter > for the consideration of the WG on Enhanced Cooperation. > > Having given the needed background, I will describe what is happening > at the WGEC in another email, in a short while. > > parminder > > On Monday 30 January 2017 09:07 PM, WANGARI KABIRU wrote: >> Many thanks Anriette for the brief and the references are clarifying! >> >> Be blessed. >> >> Regards/Wangari >> >> --- >> Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are >> Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The >> Kingdom of God on Earth". >> >> >> On Monday, 30 January 2017, 16:16, Anriette Esterhuysen >> wrote: >> >> >> Dear Wangari >> >> Apologies for delay in responding. >> >> It is an interesting question, and it goes to the heart of the enhanced >> cooperation debate, which in many ways is at the heart of the internet >> governance debate that has been ongoing since 2003. >> >> The term was first used in 2005 - and it means different things to >> different people, and the text in the Tunis Agenda where it is first >> references in a formal UN agreement, can also be interpreted in >> different ways. >> >> For the last decade it has been used as a political football.. in one of >> those matches in which it is not clear if anyone actually scores any >> goals. In fact, for some of the players, the objective of the match has >> been to avoid anyone scoring any goals :) >> >> This is a good recent piece by David Souter: >> https://www.apc.org/en/blog/inside-information-society-enhanced-cooperation-en >> >> I quote from it: >> >> "‘Enhanced cooperation’, like the Internet Governance Forum (IGF), was >> part of the compromise on the future of the Internet at WSIS in 2005. >> Agreement could not be reached on the governance of critical Internet >> resources, including the domain name system. ICANN (the Internet >> Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers), for some governments, was >> little more than an adjunct of the United States. Some wanted the >> Internet brought within the ambit of an intergovernmental (or >> multilateral) agency such as the International Telecommunication Union >> (ITU). Others were, as they remain, determined to keep the Internet free >> from intergovernmental oversight. As well as dividing governments, this >> was (and is) therefore a tussle between multilateral and >> multistakeholder approaches to the Internet. >> >> The term worked at the time because of its creative ambiguity: like many >> UN outcomes it meant different things to different folks. But the >> contests that it overlay were, and still are, unresolved. Several UN >> initiatives and working groups have failed to reach consensus on it >> since the Summit. Some governments (and civil society activists) claim >> that nothing’s changed since WSIS: that governments, particularly >> developing country governments, can’t play a substantive role in >> Internet decisions because there is no proper intergovernmental forum. >> Others suggest that diverse multistakeholder initiatives represent a lot >> of ‘enhanced cooperation’ that’s already taking place." >> >> So in response to your question, it is not a new thing that for several >> governments, the meaning of enhanced cooperation is "cooperation between >> governments". And the term 'equal footing' means that all governments >> should have equal access and voice in these processes. >> >> They generally quote paragraph 69 of the Tunis Agenda: >> >> "69. We further recognize the need for enhanced cooperation in the >> future, to enable governments, on an equal footing, to carry out their >> roles and responsibilities, in international public policy issues >> pertaining to the Internet, but not in the day-to-day technical and >> operational matters, that do not impact on international public policy >> issues." >> >> And their position is that the IGF has nothing to do with this type of >> cooperation. >> >> Personally, I think this is misinterpreting the Tunis Agenda. If you >> read the two previous paragraphs, 67 and 68, there is a clear reference >> to the IGF (referred to in the Tunis Agenda as "the forum for >> multi-stakeholder policy dialogue". I quote: >> >> "67. We agree, inter alia, to invite the UN Secretary-General to convene >> a new forum for multi-stakeholder policy dialogue. >> >> 68. We recognize that all governments should have an equal role and >> responsibility for international Internet governance and for ensuring >> the stability, security and continuity of the Internet. We also >> recognize the need for development of public policy by governments in >> consultation with all stakeholders. >> >> 69. We further recognize the need for enhanced cooperation in the >> future, to enable governments, on an equal footing, to carry out their >> roles and responsibilities, in international public policy issues >> pertaining to the Internet, but not in the day-to-day technical and >> operational matters, that do not impact on international public policy >> issues." >> >> My interpretation would be that these paragraphs talks about the forum, >> about involvement of all stakeholders, and about the need for >> governments to be able to play their role in international public policy. >> >> These area all important and legitimate and they don't need to be >> mutually exclusive. >> >> But there are different views, and there was a General Assembly >> resolution in 2011 or 2012 which stated that the IGF and enhanced >> cooperation are two separate processes. >> >> I do think governments have a legitimate point in saying that they need >> a space where they can talk about 'cross cutting' internet-related >> public policy issues. Specific issues are being addressed in places like >> the Human Rights Council (for internet and human rights issues) or in >> WIPO (for copyright related issues, for example). >> >> And I also think that developing countries are not sufficiently >> empowered or influential in most internet-related policy discussions. >> >> I just don't believe that setting up a new intergovernmental mechanism >> is the right solution to this problem. And it is one that is high risk >> for civil society. >> >> But others in the WGEC have different views. >> >> Warm greetings and thanks for following the meeting! >> >> Anriette >> >> >> >> On 27/01/2017 19:38, WANGARI KABIRU wrote: >> > Warm greetings Anriette, >> > >> > In the morning there was reference in the semblance that enhanced >> > cooperation is a government area not for the IGF...MAG. >> > Would you kindly shed light. >> > >> > >> > The comments; >> > - that statistics in developing countries are a result of >> tradeoffs and >> > thus not (necessarily) reliable >> > - how an entity is considered multi-stakeholder in one forum and in >> > other spheres not viewed as such. Taking into account >> > multi-stakholderism is a key tenet in Internet Governance >> > >> > Many thanks for the briefs. >> > >> > Be blessed. >> > >> > Regards/Wangari >> > >> > --- >> > Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are >> Restored >> > Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God >> > on Earth". >> > >> > >> > >> -- >> ----------------------------------------- >> Anriette Esterhuysen >> Executive Director >> Association for Progressive Communications >> anriette at apc.org >> www.apc.org >> IM: ae_apc >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From parminder at itforchange.net Mon Jan 30 12:41:29 2017 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 23:11:29 +0530 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Second WGEC meeting26-27 January 2017, Geneva In-Reply-To: <7698d4ee-0f42-6958-bce2-915d27efbf41@itforchange.net> References: <08da0df2-1f5a-d7e4-d5ff-b15e839d8f9c@apc.org> <5a0b4d2f-e8d0-e1f7-3186-53743f9a2d0d@apc.org> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B2A5@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <06BFEAAB-49C7-4949-974A-40B10B9ECB3D@consensus.pro> <1260683256.4328330.1485538688317@mail.yahoo.com> <1409939853.27071400.1485790654481@mail.yahoo.com> <885d58c9-a888-20aa-6ad1-3c91bc64b10f@itforchange.net> <7698d4ee-0f42-6958-bce2-915d27efbf41@itforchange.net> Message-ID: Sorry, forgot to mention that although it appears that there is no further opportunity for formal public inputs into the process, civil society members of WGEC should be happy to take to the WGEC all specific institutional models that people may want to propose, individually, on an organisation's behalf, or as groups or coalitions. The next WGEC meeting in May 2017 will be discussing specific recommendations of this kind, possible stacked in a few categories. I proposed 4 categories in my below email. But the secretariat put the specific recommendations related inputs that were received in 7 categories as below, which would most likely be the way the discussions in the Sept meeting will proceed. I. PROPOSALS OF RECOMMENDATIONS ADDRESSING SPECIFIC EXISTENT INSTITUTIONS/PROCESSES/FORA II. RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE FOLLOW-UP TO THE PREVIOUS WGEC WORKING GROUP III. RECOMMENDATIONS OF PRIORITY OF FOCUS AREAS FOR FUTURE WORK IV. RECOMMENDATIONS ADDRESSING ON COORDINATION ASPECTS V. RECOMMENDATIONS ADDRESSED TO NATIONAL GOVERNMENTS VI. RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE CREATION OF NEW INSTITUTIONAL MECHANISMS/INSTRUMENTS VII. SUGGESTIONS REGARDING CHARACTERISTICS OF RECOMMENDATIONS Among the above, 1, 4 and 6 correspond to categories 2, 3 and 4 that I suggested below, which I think are the really important ones. parminder On Monday 30 January 2017 10:51 PM, parminder wrote: > > In the first meeting of the WGEC, in Sept 2016, the group simply came > up with two questions, one was about what are the high level > characteristics of "enhanced cooperation" and second asking what kind > of recommendations the group can come up with. The second meeting last > week looked into the responses and discussed them. > > The responses about the kind of recommendations that WGEC can come up > with ranged from (1) seeking a new UN based mechanism/ body for > developing Internet related public policies, to (2) hinting on some > looser coordination mechanisms among many agencies that deal with some > Internet related public policies issues, to (3) arguing that all that > is needed is to develop some required qualities, like transparency, > accountability, etc for bodies which already do various kinds of > policy work in this area. > > Hopefully, as argued in my previous email, if we can indeed pull > ourselves out of many age old confusions and inappropriate conflations > in this area, this above takes us to the core of the issue. I > understand that there a few possible positions different actors can > take on this matter, but one should if possible commit to one or the > other, and come out with clear institutional mechanism corresponding > to that position (unless of course none is intended, which should be > clearly stated). We have spent too much time in this morass, and going > forward with greater clarity and responsibility would be highly > desirable. We owe it to the world, which is being deeply impacted by > the Internet phenomenon, which keep raising important and urgent > public policy issues that beg to be addressed. > > I see the following possible positions in this matter. > > 1. No international Internet related public policies are required. > > 2. Even if they are required, different global bodies are already > dealing with then adequately. In this regard either nothing more needs > to be done, or, the WGEC can simply develop a series of desirable > qualities or characteristics that all such institution/ processes must > posses. Those holding such a view should, at this stage, come up with > a precise method or mechanism they will like to follow to ensure that > existing mechanisms/ processes do show such desired qualities, or at > least how to persuade them to move in such a direction. > > 3. What is needed is some kind of a relatively loose coordination > mechanism among the existing bodies etc dealing with Internet related > international public policies. Those with such a view should come up > with the precise mechanism that they have in mind for such > coordination -- how does it work, where is it located, and so on. > > 4. A new committed institutional mechanism - in form of a new body/ > agency - is needed for international internet-related public policies. > Those with this view should give clear and precise proposals in this > regard, where would such body be located, would it be a new one or a > modified existing one, what would be its processes of taking in public > inputs/ advices etc, what would be its relationship with the IGF, and > so on. > > What I am tying to stress is that we need to be clear that this stage > about what kind of global IG institutional architecture we want to > see, especially in terms of international public policy processes, and > come up with clear and precise institutional recommendations in this > regard, with all the needed details. > > The above are some general categories with regard to possible > positions on EC (enhanced cooperation). But we have seen some more > specific proposals, or more appropriately hints or outlines of them. I > would encourage those who have mentioned them to detail out what > exactly is that they have in mind, how would it work etc. for > instance, many have said here that an EC mechanism could be an > extension of, under the umbrella of, or laterally conjoined with, the > IGF process, taking place along with it. It will be useful to make a > fully develop proposal ut of it, complete with the essential details. > Some others hinted on the possibility of an EC mechanism under the > Commission on Science and Technology for Development (CSTD). Similar > elaboration would be useful in this case. Those who want a whole new > relatively independent mechanism should similarly detail it out, as > for instance my organisation has been doing for quite some time now. > We again submitted it > to > the WGEC in response to the questionnaire. > > parminder > > > > On Monday 30 January 2017 10:16 PM, parminder wrote: >> >> Hi All >> >> Let me share my views and assessment about the WG on Enhanced >> Cooperation, of which I was nominated by civil society to be a member. >> >> First of all, the central issue of what has been called as "enhanced >> cooperation" in Tunis Agenda is the need for developing international >> Internet related public policies. The central issue is not >> cooperation among whom - only governments, or across stakeholders' >> this is a secondary and a follow-up issue. >> >> What we therefore need to agree first is whether or not there is a >> need for developing international Internet-related public policies; >> in the same way that WHO does for health, UNESCO for education, UNEP >> for environment, UNDP for development, and so on. >> >> Do note that these UN agencies do not "control" the respective >> sectors worldwide, just because they are UN agencies tasked with >> dealing with these sectors internationally. I say this because the >> bogie of "control" of the Internet gets raised immediately as one >> proposes a similar UN body for looking into international public >> policy aspects for the Internet. For instance, education is almost as >> sensitive a sector, politically and culturally, as the Internet, but >> UNESCO is universally acknowledged to have done very good and useful >> work internationally in this sector - especially for developing >> countries - without "controlling" education. >> >> Now, if we agree that international Internet related public policies >> indeed need to be developed -- then we can come to question of who >> should do so. >> >> Public policy is a specific political construct. Every policy is not >> public policy - for instance, technical policies as developed by >> technical bodies is not public policy unless they are so designated >> by an authorised public body. >> >> Public policies are definitionally developed by government, or those >> who represent people or groups of people -- however imperfect be the >> process of such representation. >> >> The first para of the Wikipedia entry on "public policy" defines it as >> >> "*Public policy* is the principled guide to action taken by the >> administrative executive branches >> of the >> state with >> regard to a class of issues, in a manner consistent with law >> and institutional customs >> ." >> >> and the second para as; >> >> "Other scholars define public policy as a system of "courses of >> action, regulatory >> measures, laws , and funding >> priorities concerning a >> given topic promulgated by a governmental entity or its >> representatives." >> >> I hope we do not mean to redefine what is public policy. To get to >> the core of this issue; corporations cannot sit with governments on >> an equal footing to make public policy, which is what many people >> actually advocate here. We need to make our position clear on this >> one central issue, as civil society actors associated with IG. It is >> time we come out clean on this, and leave obfuscations behind. If we >> can agree on this one issue I am sure we can agree on all. >> >> Participation in public policy making, as inputting, advising, >> developing its initial discourse (as with the IGF) is an entirely >> different matter. That comes AFTER there comes into existence a >> mechanism for public policy making. For instance, there would be >> absolutely no point in developing an extensive public consultation, >> inputting, policy discussions, etc around health policies in a >> country if there existed no actual mechanism for making any such policy. >> >> That is the situation at the global level on Internet issues. We have >> well-developed mechanism for public policy dialogue on Internet >> issues in the form of the IGF, but have no place to actually develop >> such public policies. This renders the policy dialogue space itself >> increasingly less and less useful, as has been happening with the IGF. >> >> It was the express intent of Tunis Agenda to create a >> multistakeholder policy dialogue space (the IGF) and a governmental >> policy making space (the proposed new mechanism for "enhanced >> cooperation") as two distinct but conjoined institutional mechanisms. >> Any mis-conception in this regard was cleared by subsequent UN >> resolutions that expressly said that the IGF and "enhanced >> cooperation" were distinct but complementing spaces. The intended >> institutional design could not be clearer -- although I do admit that >> exactly how governments should develop International Internet-related >> public policies remain a contested issue. >> >> But this contestation is made much worse by actors who - for whatever >> reasons - keep confusing and conflating (1) pre- public policy >> development processes of inputs, advice, dialogue, etc, and (2) >> actual public policy development processes (where, as said, one >> certainly can not have corporations sit on equal footing with govs to >> make public policy). >> >> One earnestly hopes that it is time that we get out of this >> confusion/ conflation which has no basis in democratic political >> theory. Public policy has a specific political meaning and we cannot >> afford to use this term loosely. It is the very basis of democratic >> thinking, in that public policy can only be made by representatives >> of people, and groups of people. Corporations certainly have no vote >> here. >> >> On the other hand, everyone must be consulted, given a chance to >> input and participate in pre public policy dialogues, which happens >> at the IGF.. >> >> If we indeed agree to come out of this very problematic confusion/ >> conflation, we can then actually discuss what would be the best means >> to develop international Internet-related public policies, the real >> and in fact the only pertinent question under the "enhanced >> cooperation" related discussions. And this alone is the subject >> matter for the consideration of the WG on Enhanced Cooperation. >> >> Having given the needed background, I will describe what is happening >> at the WGEC in another email, in a short while. >> >> parminder >> >> On Monday 30 January 2017 09:07 PM, WANGARI KABIRU wrote: >>> Many thanks Anriette for the brief and the references are clarifying! >>> >>> Be blessed. >>> >>> Regards/Wangari >>> >>> --- >>> Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are >>> Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The >>> Kingdom of God on Earth". >>> >>> >>> On Monday, 30 January 2017, 16:16, Anriette Esterhuysen >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Dear Wangari >>> >>> Apologies for delay in responding. >>> >>> It is an interesting question, and it goes to the heart of the enhanced >>> cooperation debate, which in many ways is at the heart of the internet >>> governance debate that has been ongoing since 2003. >>> >>> The term was first used in 2005 - and it means different things to >>> different people, and the text in the Tunis Agenda where it is first >>> references in a formal UN agreement, can also be interpreted in >>> different ways. >>> >>> For the last decade it has been used as a political football.. in one of >>> those matches in which it is not clear if anyone actually scores any >>> goals. In fact, for some of the players, the objective of the match has >>> been to avoid anyone scoring any goals :) >>> >>> This is a good recent piece by David Souter: >>> https://www.apc.org/en/blog/inside-information-society-enhanced-cooperation-en >>> >>> I quote from it: >>> >>> "‘Enhanced cooperation’, like the Internet Governance Forum (IGF), was >>> part of the compromise on the future of the Internet at WSIS in 2005. >>> Agreement could not be reached on the governance of critical Internet >>> resources, including the domain name system. ICANN (the Internet >>> Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers), for some governments, was >>> little more than an adjunct of the United States. Some wanted the >>> Internet brought within the ambit of an intergovernmental (or >>> multilateral) agency such as the International Telecommunication Union >>> (ITU). Others were, as they remain, determined to keep the Internet free >>> from intergovernmental oversight. As well as dividing governments, this >>> was (and is) therefore a tussle between multilateral and >>> multistakeholder approaches to the Internet. >>> >>> The term worked at the time because of its creative ambiguity: like many >>> UN outcomes it meant different things to different folks. But the >>> contests that it overlay were, and still are, unresolved. Several UN >>> initiatives and working groups have failed to reach consensus on it >>> since the Summit. Some governments (and civil society activists) claim >>> that nothing’s changed since WSIS: that governments, particularly >>> developing country governments, can’t play a substantive role in >>> Internet decisions because there is no proper intergovernmental forum. >>> Others suggest that diverse multistakeholder initiatives represent a lot >>> of ‘enhanced cooperation’ that’s already taking place." >>> >>> So in response to your question, it is not a new thing that for several >>> governments, the meaning of enhanced cooperation is "cooperation between >>> governments". And the term 'equal footing' means that all governments >>> should have equal access and voice in these processes. >>> >>> They generally quote paragraph 69 of the Tunis Agenda: >>> >>> "69. We further recognize the need for enhanced cooperation in the >>> future, to enable governments, on an equal footing, to carry out their >>> roles and responsibilities, in international public policy issues >>> pertaining to the Internet, but not in the day-to-day technical and >>> operational matters, that do not impact on international public policy >>> issues." >>> >>> And their position is that the IGF has nothing to do with this type of >>> cooperation. >>> >>> Personally, I think this is misinterpreting the Tunis Agenda. If you >>> read the two previous paragraphs, 67 and 68, there is a clear reference >>> to the IGF (referred to in the Tunis Agenda as "the forum for >>> multi-stakeholder policy dialogue". I quote: >>> >>> "67. We agree, inter alia, to invite the UN Secretary-General to convene >>> a new forum for multi-stakeholder policy dialogue. >>> >>> 68. We recognize that all governments should have an equal role and >>> responsibility for international Internet governance and for ensuring >>> the stability, security and continuity of the Internet. We also >>> recognize the need for development of public policy by governments in >>> consultation with all stakeholders. >>> >>> 69. We further recognize the need for enhanced cooperation in the >>> future, to enable governments, on an equal footing, to carry out their >>> roles and responsibilities, in international public policy issues >>> pertaining to the Internet, but not in the day-to-day technical and >>> operational matters, that do not impact on international public policy >>> issues." >>> >>> My interpretation would be that these paragraphs talks about the forum, >>> about involvement of all stakeholders, and about the need for >>> governments to be able to play their role in international public >>> policy. >>> >>> These area all important and legitimate and they don't need to be >>> mutually exclusive. >>> >>> But there are different views, and there was a General Assembly >>> resolution in 2011 or 2012 which stated that the IGF and enhanced >>> cooperation are two separate processes. >>> >>> I do think governments have a legitimate point in saying that they need >>> a space where they can talk about 'cross cutting' internet-related >>> public policy issues. Specific issues are being addressed in places like >>> the Human Rights Council (for internet and human rights issues) or in >>> WIPO (for copyright related issues, for example). >>> >>> And I also think that developing countries are not sufficiently >>> empowered or influential in most internet-related policy discussions. >>> >>> I just don't believe that setting up a new intergovernmental mechanism >>> is the right solution to this problem. And it is one that is high risk >>> for civil society. >>> >>> But others in the WGEC have different views. >>> >>> Warm greetings and thanks for following the meeting! >>> >>> Anriette >>> >>> >>> >>> On 27/01/2017 19:38, WANGARI KABIRU wrote: >>> > Warm greetings Anriette, >>> > >>> > In the morning there was reference in the semblance that enhanced >>> > cooperation is a government area not for the IGF...MAG. >>> > Would you kindly shed light. >>> > >>> > >>> > The comments; >>> > - that statistics in developing countries are a result of >>> tradeoffs and >>> > thus not (necessarily) reliable >>> > - how an entity is considered multi-stakeholder in one forum and in >>> > other spheres not viewed as such. Taking into account >>> > multi-stakholderism is a key tenet in Internet Governance >>> > >>> > Many thanks for the briefs. >>> > >>> > Be blessed. >>> > >>> > Regards/Wangari >>> > >>> > --- >>> > Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are >>> Restored >>> > Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God >>> > on Earth". >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- >>> ----------------------------------------- >>> Anriette Esterhuysen >>> Executive Director >>> Association for Progressive Communications >>> anriette at apc.org >>> www.apc.org >>> IM: ae_apc >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >>> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From parminder at itforchange.net Mon Jan 30 16:14:46 2017 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 02:44:46 +0530 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Second WGEC meeting26-27 January 2017, Geneva In-Reply-To: References: <08da0df2-1f5a-d7e4-d5ff-b15e839d8f9c@apc.org> <5a0b4d2f-e8d0-e1f7-3186-53743f9a2d0d@apc.org> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801D3B2A5@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <06BFEAAB-49C7-4949-974A-40B10B9ECB3D@consensus.pro> <1260683256.4328330.1485538688317@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2b0aeab1-1187-e67c-2b40-8008dce45af5@itforchange.net> On Tuesday 31 January 2017 12:06 AM, Lea Kaspar wrote: > Dear Anriette, all, > > (I'm writing here in my capacity as another CS-selected member of the > WGEC who participated in last week's proceedings) > > This really is a great summary of the current debate - thank you for > sharing it on the lists and for sharing David's blog post. > > I'm interested in understanding better two points you raise towards > the end of your post (and which summarise how some stakeholders are > framing the problem): > > 1) lack of space for governments to discuss cross-cutting > internet-related pp issues and; > 2) lack of sufficient empowerment/ influence in most > internet-related policy discussions by developing country > governments. > > > The problem could of course be framed in different ways, depending on > one's starting position and definition of EC. I just saw Parminder's > email to that effect which is very thoughtful and can serve as a > starting point for further discussion. But leaving that aside for the > moment, I am interested in understanding better the two points > identified above. This is because I've seen these arguments emerge in > last week's discussions and would like to be able to engage with them > 'on an equal footing' :). > > On the first point, and apologies if this comes off as naive, but what > is behind the position that governments need a space where they can > talk about 'cross cutting' internet-related public policy issues? > What's driving it? I know for some governments it's partly > (geo)political posturing, but beyond that, and especially for > developing country governments - where should one look to better > understand the substantive argument that supports this position? Lea, let me see if I can engage with some of these points. First of all, governments want a space where they can not only "discuss" but also "develop" cross-cutting international Internet-related public policies. As for what is driving such a demand I think it should not be difficult to see knowing as most of us do here that OECD countries develop "international" Internet related public policies through OECD's Committee on Digital Economy Policies. This committee was re-mandated with a new name and mandate just a few years back. The process was in-putted into by civil society actors, most of them present here, without asking the OECD countires why do they need such an forum for Internet-related public policy development, whether it is just geo-political posturing, and so on. Why should these questions be addressed to developing countries who would simply like such "international" policies to be developed democratically with all countries participating equally when these questions do not get asked from OECD countries doing exactly the same work, in exactly the same inter-governmental manner? Just because the latter are the rich and powerful countries? (Pl do excuse the rhetoric.) > > On the second point, which I've heard raised many times, I'd be > interested to hear whether people think this is changing due to the > proliferation of internet related pp issues across the international > policy landscape (UNGA, HRC, AU, ITU, ASEAN...). True, in some > processes this may indeed be the case (e.g. OECD, London Process?), > but there are many others that increasingly deal with internet related > PP where the voices of developing country governments are anything but > powerless. In fact, in the three UNGA committees which deal with > issues such as cybersecurity (1st committee), WSIS (2nd committee), > and privacy (3rd committee), the G77 hold the majority vote. The > situation is not much different in the ITU and a number of other > bodies. Is this problem likely to loose its grounding or even > relevance with the changing nature of the landscape? You would notice that the processes that you mention as where developing countries do get excluded are those which are specifically committed to Internet-related policy issues, and those that you mention where developing countries have equal voice are old ones dealing with other general areas which may have some Internet related aspects/ areas. (ITU is a different case to which I will come presently.) So, the real question is, why rich countries need and prefer to have committed mechanisms just for Internet-related public policy issues but it is considered unnecessary to have such forums - with same specific/ committed mandate exclusively for internet policies - where developing countries can be equally present? Why does the logic change just because developing countries are added to the mix? And to deflect their demands, examples are given of existing forums that are focussed on very different matters, which though may have some Internet aspects (which today almost everything has? OECD has about 45 or so other committees, dealing with almost everything that can need dealing, and each of these areas having some Internet aspects that too get dealt by them; why did it then feel the need to have a committed Committee for Digital Economy Policies, just a few years back? As for ITU, please do remember how most CS groups here fought to keep Internet policy issues as far from ITU's work and mandate as possible, and how WCIT crashed not only on inclusion of Internet in the ITRs but even its inclusion as an appended resolution. So, when at ITU people do not want ITU to deal with the Internet, but when one asks for some other democratic body for the Internet, ITU is given as one place where Internet issues are being addressed. It is a bit unfair to be batting from both the sides. In any case, I do not think ITU is the right place for Internet related public policies, it is useful for many aspects of Internet related technical policies along with ICANN and other such technical policy bodies. > > Thanks in advance for the openness in reading these questions. They > are addressed to anyone who can shine light on them, and raised in the > spirit of encouraging an informed debate on these issues. Yes, I too am really interested in this debate. Thanks for your openness, parminder > > On a general note - I would really encourage people to engage in this > debate if they are interested. Governments on the WGEC seem to hold > rather polarising positions, and I think this opens the opportunity > for civil society to play a bridging role in shaping the group's > outcomes. With modalities allowing observers to actively participate > in the meetings, you can engage directly or channel your views via > others. > > In any case, looking forward to people's views and comments. > > Best wishes, > Lea > > ps - I'm not on the IGC/APC lists so my posts don't go through there, > but feel free to loop the lists back in for those who are on them > > On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 3:33 PM, matthew shears > wrote: > > + 1 Anriette - very nicely summarized. > > > On 30/01/2017 14:16, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote: >> Dear Wangari >> >> Apologies for delay in responding. >> >> It is an interesting question, and it goes to the heart of the enhanced >> cooperation debate, which in many ways is at the heart of the internet >> governance debate that has been ongoing since 2003. >> >> The term was first used in 2005 - and it means different things to >> different people, and the text in the Tunis Agenda where it is first >> references in a formal UN agreement, can also be interpreted in >> different ways. >> >> For the last decade it has been used as a political football.. in one of >> those matches in which it is not clear if anyone actually scores any >> goals. In fact, for some of the players, the objective of the match has >> been to avoid anyone scoring any goals :) >> >> This is a good recent piece by David Souter: >> https://www.apc.org/en/blog/inside-information-society-enhanced-cooperation-en >> >> >> I quote from it: >> >> "‘Enhanced cooperation’, like the Internet Governance Forum (IGF), was >> part of the compromise on the future of the Internet at WSIS in 2005. >> Agreement could not be reached on the governance of critical Internet >> resources, including the domain name system. ICANN (the Internet >> Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers), for some governments, was >> little more than an adjunct of the United States. Some wanted the >> Internet brought within the ambit of an intergovernmental (or >> multilateral) agency such as the International Telecommunication Union >> (ITU). Others were, as they remain, determined to keep the Internet free >> from intergovernmental oversight. As well as dividing governments, this >> was (and is) therefore a tussle between multilateral and >> multistakeholder approaches to the Internet. >> >> The term worked at the time because of its creative ambiguity: like many >> UN outcomes it meant different things to different folks. But the >> contests that it overlay were, and still are, unresolved. Several UN >> initiatives and working groups have failed to reach consensus on it >> since the Summit. Some governments (and civil society activists) claim >> that nothing’s changed since WSIS: that governments, particularly >> developing country governments, can’t play a substantive role in >> Internet decisions because there is no proper intergovernmental forum. >> Others suggest that diverse multistakeholder initiatives represent a lot >> of ‘enhanced cooperation’ that’s already taking place." >> >> So in response to your question, it is not a new thing that for several >> governments, the meaning of enhanced cooperation is "cooperation between >> governments". And the term 'equal footing' means that all governments >> should have equal access and voice in these processes. >> >> They generally quote paragraph 69 of the Tunis Agenda: >> >> "69. We further recognize the need for enhanced cooperation in the >> future, to enable governments, on an equal footing, to carry out their >> roles and responsibilities, in international public policy issues >> pertaining to the Internet, but not in the day-to-day technical and >> operational matters, that do not impact on international public policy >> issues." >> >> And their position is that the IGF has nothing to do with this type of >> cooperation. >> >> Personally, I think this is misinterpreting the Tunis Agenda. If you >> read the two previous paragraphs, 67 and 68, there is a clear reference >> to the IGF (referred to in the Tunis Agenda as "the forum for >> multi-stakeholder policy dialogue". I quote: >> >> "67. We agree, inter alia, to invite the UN Secretary-General to convene >> a new forum for multi-stakeholder policy dialogue. >> >> 68. We recognize that all governments should have an equal role and >> responsibility for international Internet governance and for ensuring >> the stability, security and continuity of the Internet. We also >> recognize the need for development of public policy by governments in >> consultation with all stakeholders. >> >> 69. We further recognize the need for enhanced cooperation in the >> future, to enable governments, on an equal footing, to carry out their >> roles and responsibilities, in international public policy issues >> pertaining to the Internet, but not in the day-to-day technical and >> operational matters, that do not impact on international public policy >> issues." >> >> My interpretation would be that these paragraphs talks about the forum, >> about involvement of all stakeholders, and about the need for >> governments to be able to play their role in international public policy. >> >> These area all important and legitimate and they don't need to be >> mutually exclusive. >> >> But there are different views, and there was a General Assembly >> resolution in 2011 or 2012 which stated that the IGF and enhanced >> cooperation are two separate processes. >> >> I do think governments have a legitimate point in saying that they need >> a space where they can talk about 'cross cutting' internet-related >> public policy issues. Specific issues are being addressed in places like >> the Human Rights Council (for internet and human rights issues) or in >> WIPO (for copyright related issues, for example). >> >> And I also think that developing countries are not sufficiently >> empowered or influential in most internet-related policy discussions. >> >> I just don't believe that setting up a new intergovernmental mechanism >> is the right solution to this problem. And it is one that is high risk >> for civil society. >> >> But others in the WGEC have different views. >> >> Warm greetings and thanks for following the meeting! >> >> Anriette >> >> >> >> On 27/01/2017 19:38, WANGARI KABIRU wrote: >>> Warm greetings Anriette, >>> >>> In the morning there was reference in the semblance that enhanced >>> cooperation is a government area not for the IGF...MAG. >>> Would you kindly shed light. >>> >>> >>> The comments; >>> - that statistics in developing countries are a result of tradeoffs and >>> thus not (necessarily) reliable >>> - how an entity is considered multi-stakeholder in one forum and in >>> other spheres not viewed as such. Taking into account >>> multi-stakholderism is a key tenet in Internet Governance >>> >>> Many thanks for the briefs. >>> >>> Be blessed. >>> >>> Regards/Wangari >>> >>> --- >>> Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored >>> Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God >>> on Earth". >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> > > -- > ------------ > Matthew Shears > Global Internet Policy and Human Rights > Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) > + 44 771 2472987 > > ____________________________________________________________ You > received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net . > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Mon Jan 30 17:33:18 2017 From: gurstein at gmail.com (Michael Gurstein) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 14:33:18 -0800 Subject: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump In-Reply-To: <9C2B76F8-9D80-488B-9776-22EA251E7D82@gmail.com> References: <015c01d27aa1$979678f0$c6c36ad0$@gmail.com> <9C2B76F8-9D80-488B-9776-22EA251E7D82@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0b0101d27b48$db5c3280$92149780$@gmail.com> Yes Gene, and we applaud and support those struggles however, as you well know the Internet is a necessary functionality and resource to the entire world and any material change in how it is “governed” will be of direct interest and concern to the entire world. Mr. Trump’s expressed determination to pursue US interests at the expense of all others raises serious questions I would think, about how multistakeholder institutions fragile as they are, can survive when one (and the major player) appears intent on foregoing collaboration and co-determination in favour of unilateralism. In fact, I believe that one interpretation of the Prisoner’s Dilemma can tell us a great deal about what may occur in the future where the significant likelihood of one player pursuing their own interest and refusing to cooperate with others forces all other players either to cooperate among themselves or to pursue similar autarchic moves. Thus the issue of Mr. Trump and multistakeholderism might be of quite immediate significance to many of the other players in the Internet Governance game as they decide whether to go down the path of Autarchy, align with the alternate polarity that China seems to be pursuing or seek some more widely inclusive form of democratic governance of the Internet. It is of course, a pity that the processes and supporters for multistakeholderism to this point have sought to avoid and downplay issues of democratic governance of the Internet, but perhaps the silver lining/unanticipated consequence of Mr. Trump’s actions is to force this issue to the fore and to precipitate the rethinking and coalition building out of which such a process of democratization might emerge and serve the interests of all users and beneficiaries of the Internet. M From: genekimmelman at gmail.com [mailto:genekimmelman at gmail.com] Sent: January 29, 2017 7:24 PM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Michael Gurstein Subject: Re: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump Many of us in the US are fighting day to day to preserve human rights principles and fundamental constitutional rights in an extremely hostile and dangerous environment. I hope we succeed, and in that context, multistakeholderism may or may not play a role (which doesn't really prove anything!). But I certainly don't think it's a very important issue to worry about at this point in time when so much more is at stake..... On Jan 29, 2017, at 9:35 PM, Michael Gurstein > wrote: A question, what does Multistakeholderism looking like in the context of Mr. Trump’s America First-ism? Asking for a friend… M ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From willi.uebelherr at riseup.net Mon Jan 30 23:45:39 2017 From: willi.uebelherr at riseup.net (willi uebelherr) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 01:45:39 -0300 Subject: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump In-Reply-To: <0b0101d27b48$db5c3280$92149780$@gmail.com> References: <0b0101d27b48$db5c3280$92149780$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0c5b75f3-8e66-809c-7c2c-15f76e04737c@riseup.net> What I read here are all great lies. For decades, the US has been destroying other countries. Murdered millions of people. Destroy cultures and habitats. And we do not hear anything from you. No cry out. The "Internet" is fully controlled by small groups. Mostly from the USA. Then you speak of "democratic governance of the Internet". "Multistakeholderism" is a cheap theater. The access to all data is the only interest, which gives itself validity. Connected with the interest of making telecommunications a profitable business. All other interests are subordinate to this. The people don't exist for these groups. They are just objects. What will you defend? many greetings, willi Asuncion, Paraguay -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: RE: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 14:33:18 -0800 From: Michael Gurstein Yes Gene, and we applaud and support those struggles however, as you well know the Internet is a necessary functionality and resource to the entire world and any material change in how it is “governed” will be of direct interest and concern to the entire world. Mr. Trump’s expressed determination to pursue US interests at the expense of all others raises serious questions I would think, about how multistakeholder institutions fragile as they are, can survive when one (and the major player) appears intent on foregoing collaboration and co-determination in favour of unilateralism. In fact, I believe that one interpretation of the Prisoner’s Dilemma can tell us a great deal about what may occur in the future where the significant likelihood of one player pursuing their own interest and refusing to cooperate with others forces all other players either to cooperate among themselves or to pursue similar autarchic moves. Thus the issue of Mr. Trump and multistakeholderism might be of quite immediate significance to many of the other players in the Internet Governance game as they decide whether to go down the path of Autarchy, align with the alternate polarity that China seems to be pursuing or seek some more widely inclusive form of democratic governance of the Internet. It is of course, a pity that the processes and supporters for multistakeholderism to this point have sought to avoid and downplay issues of democratic governance of the Internet, but perhaps the silver lining/unanticipated consequence of Mr. Trump’s actions is to force this issue to the fore and to precipitate the rethinking and coalition building out of which such a process of democratization might emerge and serve the interests of all users and beneficiaries of the Internet. M From: genekimmelman at gmail.com [mailto:genekimmelman at gmail.com] Sent: January 29, 2017 7:24 PM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Michael Gurstein Subject: Re: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump Many of us in the US are fighting day to day to preserve human rights principles and fundamental constitutional rights in an extremely hostile and dangerous environment. I hope we succeed, and in that context, multistakeholderism may or may not play a role (which doesn't really prove anything!). But I certainly don't think it's a very important issue to worry about at this point in time when so much more is at stake..... On Jan 29, 2017, at 9:35 PM, Michael Gurstein > wrote: A question, what does Multistakeholderism looking like in the context of Mr. Trump’s America First-ism? Asking for a friend… M -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From willi.uebelherr at riseup.net Tue Jan 31 00:04:41 2017 From: willi.uebelherr at riseup.net (willi uebelherr) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 02:04:41 -0300 Subject: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump In-Reply-To: References: <015c01d27aa1$979678f0$c6c36ad0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <65b61683-515f-0841-75b9-3a62293590f5@riseup.net> Dear Nicolas, why you don't speak about the possiblity to move to online conferences? greeting, willi Asuncion, Paraguay On 30/01/2017 10:43, Nicolas Fiumarelli wrote: > Hello List, > > As most of you know, > > The United States, at the time of the next IETF meeting in Chicago, will > still have the executive order that prevents anyone from seven designated > countries from entering. Referring to a post from the IETF general list, > and looking back over past IETF meetings, you can see at least 18 different > attendees (12 from Iran, 2 from Libya, 2 from Somalia, 1 from Yemen, And 1 > from Sudan) who would be barred from attending the Chicago meeting *in > person*. > > Following the Multistakeholder Principles and Rights we all have in mind I > think it is appropriate for the IETF to respond to the United States' ban > on people in Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Yemen. > > The question that came out from the list is, When this > happens, is there any specific action that can be taken? It is not clear to > me, it is obviously impractical to cancel or move the meeting with so much > notice. > > We all know how many Iranians are world-class technologists, including > computer science and engineering, and in order to respect the diversity of > participation in these events, what efforts are being made? > > What do we think about this? How this affects the Multistakeholder Model we > are trying to preserve. > > Nicolas Fiumarelli, from Uruguay, talking on behalf of Youth IGF Uruguay. > > - > > > 2017-01-30 10:29 GMT-03:00 Nyangkwe Agien Aaron : > >> Hi all >> >> Why don't we ask ourselves why Mr Trump is coming out with "America first" >> now, other than the America for the whole world that was professed by the >> establishment? >> >> Did some one ask Trump that question? Did some one listen to Trump's >> swearing in address? >> >> Just because the ruling elite has been defeated, means that there should >> be no life in Thomas Jefferson's America again. >> >> Wonderful America! >> >> My prayers goes with President Donald Trump >> >> Agien Nyangkwe (Aaron) >> >> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Arsène Tungali >> wrote: >> >>> I think it is still fine if he only apply this in the context of the US >>> (i mean within the US borders). There is a way he can form a >>> multistakeholderism process within the country and still be able to fulfill >>> his America-First wish >>> >>> ------------------------ >>> **Arsène Tungali** >>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >>> *, >>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum >>> * >>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> >>> GPG: 523644A0 >>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >>> >>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >>> >>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >>> >>> & Mexico >>> ) >>> - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger >>> - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >>> & Marrakech >>> >>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >>> >>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >>> >>> >>> 2017-01-30 4:35 GMT+02:00 Michael Gurstein : >>> >>>> A question, what does Multistakeholderism looking like in the context of >>>> Mr. Trump’s America First-ism? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Asking for a friend… >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> M >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Aaron Agien NYANGKWE >> P.O.Box 5213 >> Douala-Cameroon >> Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From udochukwu.njoku at unn.edu.ng Tue Jan 31 04:59:28 2017 From: udochukwu.njoku at unn.edu.ng (Chris Prince Udochukwu Njoku) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 10:59:28 +0100 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Please Cameroon did not shut down the Internet !!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thoughtful comments, gentlemen and ladies. While Janvier's attempt to give the context of the incident is welcome, I wholly agree with Nonhlanhla that nothing whatsoever justifies Internet shutdown, and with Remmy that denial of Internet to one Cameroonian should bother an online Cameroonian irrespective of regional provenance. I strongly think that this incident and similar ones in some other countries point to a challenge that is more critical than how to resolve an issue of some country nationals being forced offline by their government. This case triggers salient questions about the credibility of multi-stakeholderism. Among such questions are: 1. If the Internet is being multi-stakeholder-governed, why must a stakeholder exercise unilateral authority, in utter disregard of other stakeholders? 2. Is governmental incessant exercise of veto over the Internet not a clear indication of non-acceptance of multi-stakeholder governance of the Internet by governments? And how can this be tackled? Best, CPU On 27 Jan 2017 3:55 pm, "Mueller, Milton L" wrote: Thanks Joash for the explanation. This is what I expected when I heard of the shutdown. Such shutdowns are inherently rights violations. It allows political elites to assert blanket control over all communications and typically it is their own power and security, not the benefit of the population, that is advanced by these indiscriminate shutdowns. The tension between Anglophone and Francophone speakers in that country is well known and it’s inexcusable to see minority regions isolated and abused in this way. Dr. Milton L Mueller Professor, School of Public Policy Georgia Institute of Technology Internet Governance Project http://internetgovernance.org/ This is a vital interesting topic. Having lived in Cameroon for 3 years, I would say that the shutdown in these two region is no different from shutdowns witnessed in Uganda and Gambia for instance. It is simply the political elite using their political influence to prevent the human rights violations calling for federation in these areas. The two areas made up of Anglophones, who have been marginalized largely because of their language and their calls for federation have been met by internet shutdown and full force of security agents. It is this that the Cameroon government does not want to be easily distributed within the social media. 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It is just like the hollerings about Trump's anti-refugees of certain countries well as Obama signed the sam decree in 2011 and no one made single noise. Who is caught pants down here? Agien Nyangkwe (Aaron) On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 6:04 AM, willi uebelherr wrote: > > Dear Nicolas, > > why you don't speak about the possiblity to move to online conferences? > > greeting, willi > Asuncion, Paraguay > > > On 30/01/2017 10:43, Nicolas Fiumarelli wrote: > >> Hello List, >> >> As most of you know, >> >> The United States, at the time of the next IETF meeting in Chicago, will >> still have the executive order that prevents anyone from seven designated >> countries from entering. Referring to a post from the IETF general list, >> and looking back over past IETF meetings, you can see at least 18 >> different >> attendees (12 from Iran, 2 from Libya, 2 from Somalia, 1 from Yemen, And 1 >> from Sudan) who would be barred from attending the Chicago meeting *in >> person*. >> >> Following the Multistakeholder Principles and Rights we all have in mind I >> think it is appropriate for the IETF to respond to the United States' ban >> on people in Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Yemen. >> >> The question that came out from the list is, When this >> >> happens, is there any specific action that can be taken? It is not clear >> to >> me, it is obviously impractical to cancel or move the meeting with so much >> notice. >> >> We all know how many Iranians are world-class technologists, including >> computer science and engineering, and in order to respect the diversity of >> participation in these events, what efforts are being made? >> >> What do we think about this? How this affects the Multistakeholder Model >> we >> are trying to preserve. >> >> Nicolas Fiumarelli, from Uruguay, talking on behalf of Youth IGF Uruguay. >> >> - >> >> >> 2017-01-30 10:29 GMT-03:00 Nyangkwe Agien Aaron > >: >> >> Hi all >>> >>> Why don't we ask ourselves why Mr Trump is coming out with "America >>> first" >>> now, other than the America for the whole world that was professed by the >>> establishment? >>> >>> Did some one ask Trump that question? Did some one listen to Trump's >>> swearing in address? >>> >>> Just because the ruling elite has been defeated, means that there should >>> be no life in Thomas Jefferson's America again. >>> >>> Wonderful America! >>> >>> My prayers goes with President Donald Trump >>> >>> Agien Nyangkwe (Aaron) >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Arsène Tungali >> > >>> wrote: >>> >>> I think it is still fine if he only apply this in the context of the US >>>> (i mean within the US borders). There is a way he can form a >>>> multistakeholderism process within the country and still be able to >>>> fulfill >>>> his America-First wish >>>> >>>> ------------------------ >>>> **Arsène Tungali** >>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >>>> *, >>>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa >>>> Forum >>>> * >>>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> >>>> GPG: 523644A0 >>>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >>>> >>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >>>> >>> la-washington.html> >>>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >>>> >>> dership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors- >>>> programme/Past-Ambassadors> >>>> & Mexico >>>> >>> dership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>) >>>> - AFRISIG 2016 - >>>> Blogger >>>> - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >>>> & Marrakech >>>> >>> -2016-03-14-en> >>>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >>>> >>> owship-winners> >>>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2017-01-30 4:35 GMT+02:00 Michael Gurstein : >>>> >>>> A question, what does Multistakeholderism looking like in the context of >>>>> Mr. Trump’s America First-ism? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Asking for a friend… >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> M >>>>> >>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>> >>>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>> >>>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Aaron Agien NYANGKWE >>> P.O.Box 5213 >>> Douala-Cameroon >>> Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Aaron Agien NYANGKWE P.O.Box 5213 Douala-Cameroon Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From lorena at collaboratory.de Tue Jan 31 05:08:34 2017 From: lorena at collaboratory.de (Lorena Jaume-Palasi) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 11:08:34 +0100 Subject: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump In-Reply-To: References: <015c01d27aa1$979678f0$c6c36ad0$@gmail.com> <65b61683-515f-0841-75b9-3a62293590f5@riseup.net> Message-ID: Sorry but that is (again) a false statement from Trump. There was no ban on 2011. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/01/30/president-trump-refugee-executive-order-barack-obama/97249540/ Regards Lorena 2017-01-31 11:02 GMT+01:00 Nyangkwe Agien Aaron : > Many thanks Wlli for your earlier post. It said it all. It is just like > the hollerings about Trump's anti-refugees of certain countries well as > Obama signed the sam decree in 2011 and no one made single noise. > > Who is caught pants down here? > > Agien Nyangkwe (Aaron) > > On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 6:04 AM, willi uebelherr < > willi.uebelherr at riseup.net> wrote: > >> >> Dear Nicolas, >> >> why you don't speak about the possiblity to move to online conferences? >> >> greeting, willi >> Asuncion, Paraguay >> >> >> On 30/01/2017 10:43, Nicolas Fiumarelli wrote: >> >>> Hello List, >>> >>> As most of you know, >>> >>> The United States, at the time of the next IETF meeting in Chicago, will >>> still have the executive order that prevents anyone from seven designated >>> countries from entering. Referring to a post from the IETF general list, >>> and looking back over past IETF meetings, you can see at least 18 >>> different >>> attendees (12 from Iran, 2 from Libya, 2 from Somalia, 1 from Yemen, And >>> 1 >>> from Sudan) who would be barred from attending the Chicago meeting *in >>> person*. >>> >>> Following the Multistakeholder Principles and Rights we all have in mind >>> I >>> think it is appropriate for the IETF to respond to the United States' ban >>> on people in Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Yemen. >>> >>> The question that came out from the list is, When this >>> >>> happens, is there any specific action that can be taken? It is not clear >>> to >>> me, it is obviously impractical to cancel or move the meeting with so >>> much >>> notice. >>> >>> We all know how many Iranians are world-class technologists, including >>> computer science and engineering, and in order to respect the diversity >>> of >>> participation in these events, what efforts are being made? >>> >>> What do we think about this? How this affects the Multistakeholder Model >>> we >>> are trying to preserve. >>> >>> Nicolas Fiumarelli, from Uruguay, talking on behalf of Youth IGF Uruguay. >>> >>> - >>> >>> >>> 2017-01-30 10:29 GMT-03:00 Nyangkwe Agien Aaron >> >: >>> >>> Hi all >>>> >>>> Why don't we ask ourselves why Mr Trump is coming out with "America >>>> first" >>>> now, other than the America for the whole world that was professed by >>>> the >>>> establishment? >>>> >>>> Did some one ask Trump that question? Did some one listen to Trump's >>>> swearing in address? >>>> >>>> Just because the ruling elite has been defeated, means that there should >>>> be no life in Thomas Jefferson's America again. >>>> >>>> Wonderful America! >>>> >>>> My prayers goes with President Donald Trump >>>> >>>> Agien Nyangkwe (Aaron) >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Arsène Tungali < >>>> arsenebaguma at gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I think it is still fine if he only apply this in the context of the US >>>>> (i mean within the US borders). There is a way he can form a >>>>> multistakeholderism process within the country and still be able to >>>>> fulfill >>>>> his America-First wish >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------ >>>>> **Arsène Tungali** >>>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >>>>> *, >>>>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa >>>>> Forum >>>>> * >>>>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> >>>>> GPG: 523644A0 >>>>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >>>>> >>>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >>>>> >>>> la-washington.html> >>>>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >>>>> >>>> dership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-p >>>>> rogramme/Past-Ambassadors> >>>>> & Mexico >>>>> >>>> dership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>) >>>>> - AFRISIG 2016 - >>>>> Blogger >>>>> - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >>>>> & Marrakech >>>>> >>>> -2016-03-14-en> >>>>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >>>>> >>>> owship-winners> >>>>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2017-01-30 4:35 GMT+02:00 Michael Gurstein : >>>>> >>>>> A question, what does Multistakeholderism looking like in the context >>>>>> of >>>>>> Mr. Trump’s America First-ism? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Asking for a friend… >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> M >>>>>> >>>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>>> >>>>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>> >>>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>> >>>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Aaron Agien NYANGKWE >>>> P.O.Box 5213 >>>> Douala-Cameroon >>>> Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > > -- > Aaron Agien NYANGKWE > P.O.Box 5213 > Douala-Cameroon > Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Lorena Jaume-Palasí ∙ Coordinator, Global Internet Governance Arbeitsgruppe Internet & Gesellschaft Co:llaboratory e.V. www.intgovforum.de ∙ www.collaboratory.de ∙ Newsletter ∙ Facebook ∙ Twitter ∙ Youtube -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From saameyes at gmail.com Tue Jan 31 05:14:12 2017 From: saameyes at gmail.com (Samten Yeshi) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 16:14:12 +0600 Subject: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump In-Reply-To: References: <015c01d27aa1$979678f0$c6c36ad0$@gmail.com> <65b61683-515f-0841-75b9-3a62293590f5@riseup.net> Message-ID: <7D04BC54-E017-43EC-8DFE-341652371CC1@gmail.com> Ha ha. Trump seems over excited to occupy that chair. Samten Yeshi Shejun Agency for Bhutan's Cultural Documentation and Research Mobile: +975-17944991 saameyes at gmail.com facebook: https://www.facebook.com/shejunresearchagency?ref=bookmarks http://www.shejun.org > On Jan 31, 2017, at 4:02 PM, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron wrote: > > Many thanks Wlli for your earlier post. It said it all. It is just like the hollerings about Trump's anti-refugees of certain countries well as Obama signed the sam decree in 2011 and no one made single noise. > > Who is caught pants down here? > > Agien Nyangkwe (Aaron) > > On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 6:04 AM, willi uebelherr > wrote: > > Dear Nicolas, > > why you don't speak about the possiblity to move to online conferences? > > greeting, willi > Asuncion, Paraguay > > > On 30/01/2017 10:43, Nicolas Fiumarelli wrote: > Hello List, > > As most of you know, > > The United States, at the time of the next IETF meeting in Chicago, will > still have the executive order that prevents anyone from seven designated > countries from entering. Referring to a post from the IETF general list, > and looking back over past IETF meetings, you can see at least 18 different > attendees (12 from Iran, 2 from Libya, 2 from Somalia, 1 from Yemen, And 1 > from Sudan) who would be barred from attending the Chicago meeting *in > person*. > > Following the Multistakeholder Principles and Rights we all have in mind I > think it is appropriate for the IETF to respond to the United States' ban > on people in Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Yemen. > > The question that came out from the list > is, When this > > happens, is there any specific action that can be taken? It is not clear to > me, it is obviously impractical to cancel or move the meeting with so much > notice. > > We all know how many Iranians are world-class technologists, including > computer science and engineering, and in order to respect the diversity of > participation in these events, what efforts are being made? > > What do we think about this? How this affects the Multistakeholder Model we > are trying to preserve. > > Nicolas Fiumarelli, from Uruguay, talking on behalf of Youth IGF Uruguay. > > - > > > 2017-01-30 10:29 GMT-03:00 Nyangkwe Agien Aaron >: > > Hi all > > Why don't we ask ourselves why Mr Trump is coming out with "America first" > now, other than the America for the whole world that was professed by the > establishment? > > Did some one ask Trump that question? Did some one listen to Trump's > swearing in address? > > Just because the ruling elite has been defeated, means that there should > be no life in Thomas Jefferson's America again. > > Wonderful America! > > My prayers goes with President Donald Trump > > Agien Nyangkwe (Aaron) > > On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Arsène Tungali > > wrote: > > I think it is still fine if he only apply this in the context of the US > (i mean within the US borders). There is a way he can form a > multistakeholderism process within the country and still be able to fulfill > his America-First wish > > ------------------------ > **Arsène Tungali** > Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > >*, > CEO,* Smart Services Sarl >*, *Mabingwa Forum > >* > Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> > GPG: 523644A0 > *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > > 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > > > (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > > > & Mexico > >) > - AFRISIG 2016 > - Blogger > > - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > > & Marrakech > > > ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius > > > )* - *IGFSA Member > - The HuffingtonPost UK > > > > > 2017-01-30 4:35 GMT+02:00 Michael Gurstein >: > > A question, what does Multistakeholderism looking like in the context of > Mr. Trump’s America First-ism? > > > > Asking for a friend… > > > > M > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > > -- > Aaron Agien NYANGKWE > P.O.Box 5213 > Douala-Cameroon > Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > > -- > Aaron Agien NYANGKWE > P.O.Box 5213 > Douala-Cameroon > Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From lorena at collaboratory.de Tue Jan 31 05:14:06 2017 From: lorena at collaboratory.de (Lorena Jaume-Palasi) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 11:14:06 +0100 Subject: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump In-Reply-To: References: <015c01d27aa1$979678f0$c6c36ad0$@gmail.com> <65b61683-515f-0841-75b9-3a62293590f5@riseup.net> Message-ID: And here the fact checker from the washington post. Regards Lorena https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/01/29/trumps-facile-claim-that-his-refugee-policy-is-similar-to-obama-in-2011/?utm_term=.c80a874f6506 Fact Checker *Trump’s facile claim that his refugee policy is similar to Obama’s in 2011* *“My policy is similar to what President Obama did in 2011 when he banned visas for refugees from Iraq for six months.”* *— President Trump, statement on executive order, Jan. 29, 2017* *The Pinocchio rating has been updated in light of new information.* In justifying his controversial executive order halting travelers from seven majority-Muslim countries, President Trump claimed that President Barack Obama did the same thing in 2011. But the comparison is a bit facile. Here’s what happened in 2011. The Facts The only news report that we could find that referred to a six-month ban was a 2013 ABC News article that included this line: “As a result of the Kentucky case, the State Department stopped processing Iraq refugees for six months in 2011, federal officials told ABC News — even for many who had heroically helped U.S. forces as interpreters and intelligence assets.” The “Kentucky case” refers to two Iraqis in Kentucky who in May 2011 were arrested and faced federal terrorism charges after officials discovered from an informant that Waad Ramadan Alwan, before he had been granted asylum in the United States, had constructed improvised roadside bombs in Iraq. The FBI, after examining fragments from thousands of bomb parts, found Alwan’s fingerprints on a cordless phone that had been wired to detonate an improvised bomb in 2005. The arrests caused an uproar in Congress, and the Obama administration pledged to reexamine the records of 58,000 Iraqis who had been settled in the United States. The administration also imposed new, more extensive background checks on Iraqi refugees. Media reports at the time focused on how the new screening procedures had delayed visa approvals, even as the United States was preparing to end its involvement in the Iraq War. “The enhanced screening procedures have caused a logjam in regular visa admissions from Iraq, even for those who risked their lives to aid American troops and who now fear reprisals as the Obama administration winds down the U.S. military presence,” the Baltimore Sun reported. The Los Angeles Times reported that U.S. officials acknowledged delays but were trying to speed up the process: A U.S. Embassy official in Baghdad, speaking on condition he not be identified, acknowledged “unfortunate delays” in issuing special visas, the result of enhanced security clearance procedures, some instituted after the Kentucky arrests. But he said recent changes would speed the process. The State Department’s National Visa Center has been ordered to flag special visa applications for expedited action, the official said. And a requirement that Iraqi applicants provide an original signature on certain forms sent to the U.S. has been dropped after Iraqis complained of logistical difficulties. “We are making changes, ordered at the very highest levels, that will help shave time off the application process,” the official said. At a September 2011 congressional hearing, Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) asked Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano if a hold had been placed on Iraqi visa applications. COLLINS: “So my question is, is there a hold on that population until they can be more stringently vetted to ensure that we’re not letting into this country, people who would do us harm?” NAPOLITANO: “Yep. Let me, if I might, answer your question two parts. First part, with respect to the 56, 57,000 who were resettled pursuant to the original resettlement program, they have all been revetted against all of the DHS databases, all of the NCTC [National Counter Terrorism Center] databases and the Department of Defense’s biometric databases and so that work has now been done and focused.” COLLINS: “That’s completed?” NAPOLITANO: “That is completed. Moving forward, no one will be resettled without going through the same sort of vet. Now I don’t know if that equates to a hold, as you say, but I can say that having done the already resettled population moving forward, they will all be reviewed against those kinds of databases.” The new rules were stringent, the Economist reported, and resulted in some turmoil. “Immigration authorities soon began rechecking all Iraqi refugees in America, reportedly comparing fingerprints and other records with military and intelligence documents in dusty archives. About 1,000 soon-to-be immigrants in Iraq were told that they would not be allowed to board flights already booked. Some were removed from planes. Thousands more Iraqi applicants had to restart the immigration process, because their security clearances expired when the program stalled. Men must now pass five separate checks, women four, and children three.” State Department records show there was a significant drop in refugee arrivals from Iraq in 2011. There were 18,251 in 2010, 6,339 in 2011 and 16,369 in 2012. But it’s unclear that equates to an actual six-month pause in visa processing, rather than a dramatic slowdown in approvals as new rules were put in place. One news report said “pace of visa approvals having slowed to a crawl,” indicating some were still being approved. *Update:* Former Obama administration official Jon Finer denied that any ban in Iraqi refugee admissions was put in place under Obama. “While the flow of Iraqi refugees slowed significantly during the Obama administration’s review, refugees continued to be admitted to the United States during that time, and there was not a single month in which no Iraqis arrived here,” he wrote in Foreign Policy . “In other words, while there were delays in processing, there was no outright ban.” Another former official, Eric P. Schwartz, the assistant secretary of state for population, refugees and migration at the time, also told The Fact Checker that Trump’s statement is false: “President Obama never imposed a six-month ban on Iraqi processing. For several months in 2011, there was a lower level of Iraqi resettlement, as the government implemented certain security enhancements. Indeed, as we identified new and valuable opportunities to enhance screening, we did so. Nobody should object to a continual effort to identify legitimate enhancements, but it is disreputable to use that as a pretext to effectively shut down a program that is overwhelmingly safe and has enabled the United States to exercise world leadership. In any event, there was never a point during that period in which Iraqi resettlement was stopped, or banned.” The Pinocchio Test So what’s the difference with Trump’s action? First, Obama responded to an actual threat — the discovery that two Iraqi refugees had been implicated in bombmaking in Iraq that had targeted U.S. troops. (Iraq, after all, was a war zone.) Under congressional pressure, officials decided to reexamine all previous refugees and impose new screening procedures, which led to a slowdown in processing new applications. Trump, by contrast, issued his executive order without any known triggering threat. (His staff has pointed to attacks unrelated to the countries named in his order.) Second, Obama did not announce a ban on visa applications. In fact, as seen in Napolitano’s answer to Collins, administration officials danced around that question. There was certainly a lot of news reporting that visa applications had slowed to a trickle. But the Obama administration never said it had a policy to halt all applications. Indeed, it is now clear that no ban was put in place. Even so, the delays did not go unnoticed, so there was a lot of critical news reporting at the time about the angst of Iraqis waiting for approval. Third, Obama’s policy did not prevent all citizens of that country, including green-card holders, from traveling to the United States. Trump’s policy is much more sweeping, though officials have appeared to pull back from barring permanent U.S. residents. We have sought comment from the White House and from Obama administration officials and so may update this if more information becomes available. But so far this is worthy of at least Two Pinocchios. *Update:* In light of the response from Obama administration officials that there never was a point when Iraqi resettlement was stopped or banned, we are updating this ruling to Three Pinocchios. Iraqi refugee processing was slowed, in response to a specific threat, but it was not halted. The Trump White House, meanwhile, has failed to provide any evidence for its statement. 2017-01-31 11:08 GMT+01:00 Lorena Jaume-Palasi : > Sorry but that is (again) a false statement from Trump. There was no ban > on 2011. > http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/01/30/ > president-trump-refugee-executive-order-barack-obama/97249540/ > Regards > Lorena > > 2017-01-31 11:02 GMT+01:00 Nyangkwe Agien Aaron : > >> Many thanks Wlli for your earlier post. It said it all. It is just like >> the hollerings about Trump's anti-refugees of certain countries well as >> Obama signed the sam decree in 2011 and no one made single noise. >> >> Who is caught pants down here? >> >> Agien Nyangkwe (Aaron) >> >> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 6:04 AM, willi uebelherr < >> willi.uebelherr at riseup.net> wrote: >> >>> >>> Dear Nicolas, >>> >>> why you don't speak about the possiblity to move to online conferences? >>> >>> greeting, willi >>> Asuncion, Paraguay >>> >>> >>> On 30/01/2017 10:43, Nicolas Fiumarelli wrote: >>> >>>> Hello List, >>>> >>>> As most of you know, >>>> >>>> The United States, at the time of the next IETF meeting in Chicago, will >>>> still have the executive order that prevents anyone from seven >>>> designated >>>> countries from entering. Referring to a post from the IETF general list, >>>> and looking back over past IETF meetings, you can see at least 18 >>>> different >>>> attendees (12 from Iran, 2 from Libya, 2 from Somalia, 1 from Yemen, >>>> And 1 >>>> from Sudan) who would be barred from attending the Chicago meeting *in >>>> person*. >>>> >>>> Following the Multistakeholder Principles and Rights we all have in >>>> mind I >>>> think it is appropriate for the IETF to respond to the United States' >>>> ban >>>> on people in Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Yemen. >>>> >>>> The question that came out from the list is, When this >>>> >>>> happens, is there any specific action that can be taken? It is not >>>> clear to >>>> me, it is obviously impractical to cancel or move the meeting with so >>>> much >>>> notice. >>>> >>>> We all know how many Iranians are world-class technologists, including >>>> computer science and engineering, and in order to respect the diversity >>>> of >>>> participation in these events, what efforts are being made? >>>> >>>> What do we think about this? How this affects the Multistakeholder >>>> Model we >>>> are trying to preserve. >>>> >>>> Nicolas Fiumarelli, from Uruguay, talking on behalf of Youth IGF >>>> Uruguay. >>>> >>>> - >>>> >>>> >>>> 2017-01-30 10:29 GMT-03:00 Nyangkwe Agien Aaron < >>>> nyangkweagien at gmail.com>: >>>> >>>> Hi all >>>>> >>>>> Why don't we ask ourselves why Mr Trump is coming out with "America >>>>> first" >>>>> now, other than the America for the whole world that was professed by >>>>> the >>>>> establishment? >>>>> >>>>> Did some one ask Trump that question? Did some one listen to Trump's >>>>> swearing in address? >>>>> >>>>> Just because the ruling elite has been defeated, means that there >>>>> should >>>>> be no life in Thomas Jefferson's America again. >>>>> >>>>> Wonderful America! >>>>> >>>>> My prayers goes with President Donald Trump >>>>> >>>>> Agien Nyangkwe (Aaron) >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Arsène Tungali < >>>>> arsenebaguma at gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I think it is still fine if he only apply this in the context of the US >>>>>> (i mean within the US borders). There is a way he can form a >>>>>> multistakeholderism process within the country and still be able to >>>>>> fulfill >>>>>> his America-First wish >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------ >>>>>> **Arsène Tungali** >>>>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >>>>>> *, >>>>>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa >>>>>> Forum >>>>>> * >>>>>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> >>>>>> GPG: 523644A0 >>>>>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >>>>>> >>>>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >>>>>> >>>>> la-washington.html> >>>>>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >>>>>> >>>>> dership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-p >>>>>> rogramme/Past-Ambassadors> >>>>>> & Mexico >>>>>> >>>>> dership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>) >>>>>> - AFRISIG 2016 - >>>>>> Blogger >>>>>> - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >>>>>> & Marrakech >>>>>> >>>>> -2016-03-14-en> >>>>>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >>>>>> >>>>> owship-winners> >>>>>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2017-01-30 4:35 GMT+02:00 Michael Gurstein : >>>>>> >>>>>> A question, what does Multistakeholderism looking like in the context >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> Mr. Trump’s America First-ism? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Asking for a friend… >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> M >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>>> >>>>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Aaron Agien NYANGKWE >>>>> P.O.Box 5213 >>>>> Douala-Cameroon >>>>> Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>> >>>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>> >>>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Aaron Agien NYANGKWE >> P.O.Box 5213 >> Douala-Cameroon >> Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > > -- > > Lorena Jaume-Palasí ∙ Coordinator, Global Internet Governance > Arbeitsgruppe > > Internet & Gesellschaft Co:llaboratory e.V. > > www.intgovforum.de ∙ www.collaboratory.de ∙ Newsletter > > ∙ Facebook ∙ Twitter ∙ > Youtube > > -- Lorena Jaume-Palasí ∙ Coordinator, Global Internet Governance Arbeitsgruppe Internet & Gesellschaft Co:llaboratory e.V. www.intgovforum.de ∙ www.collaboratory.de ∙ Newsletter ∙ Facebook ∙ Twitter ∙ Youtube -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From baudouin.schombe at gmail.com Tue Jan 31 05:33:37 2017 From: baudouin.schombe at gmail.com (BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:33:37 +0200 Subject: [governance] Coming Up: Vote for new IGC Co-coordinator/Get ready! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for sharing this information Le lundi 30 janvier 2017, Arsène Tungali a écrit : > Dear colleagues, > > Hope this finds you well. > > Just so you know, we will be starting very soon the process or electing a > new Co-coordinator to replace our very own Analia whose term ends > this January 2017. > > Meanwhile and before a call is being sent, please do get ready if you > would like to serve as the next IGC Co-coordinator (alongside me) and > follow up on the wonderful job done by Analia. > > Note that no action is needed as of now. > > Best regards, > Analia & Arsene > IGC Co-coordinators > ------------------------ > **Arsène Tungali** > Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > *, > CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum > * > Tel: +243 993810967 > GPG: 523644A0 > *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > > 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > > (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > > & Mexico > ) > - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger > - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > & Marrakech > > ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius > > )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK > > -- BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE +243813684512 +243998983491 SKYPE ID: b.schombe twitter: @akimambo blog: http://akimambo.unblog.fr -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nyangkweagien at gmail.com Tue Jan 31 05:36:03 2017 From: nyangkweagien at gmail.com (Nyangkwe Agien Aaron) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 11:36:03 +0100 Subject: [governance] Fwd: [cameroon_politics] Jean Jaques Ze prepare le genocide In-Reply-To: <1272817787.1899410.1485794976226@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1272817787.1899410.1485794976226.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1272817787.1899410.1485794976226@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I hear a certain Jean Jacque Ze if Vision 4 tv called Southern (Anglophone )Cameroonians as rats. He called for the arrest and killing of the rats. That's terrible Se comme sa que les genocides se preparent. Il appelle l attestation des rats. Il dit aussi qu on tue toutes la rats. Incroyable Terrible AGENDIA Aloysius ...... Vision 4 Journalist Calls "Anglophones" Rats. We are saddened to learn that Jean-Jacques Ze, a Vision 4 TV journalist last week in his Chronicle program declared that the campaign to arrest our people in West Cameroon is just as eliminating RATS. He calls us rats. These are all avenues for genocide preparation against our people. In fact, acts of genocides are already going on in West Cameroon. Our people are abducted on a daily basis, whisked off to an unknown destination. People are disappearing every day. "Anglophones" have now become rats to the regime of Paul Biya. Yet, the regime will not arrest such a journalist or close the TV down. They will be quick to abduct our people who voice out opinions about the form of the state. The consortium strongly and fully condemns this statement from Mr. Jean-Jacsques which is only meant to inflict hatred and cause genocide against a peaceful people. We are officially requesting Vision 4 management to sack the said journalist and hand him over to the police. We call on all Southern Cameroonians reading us to condemn this journalist and call him out in a separate post on our Facebook, Twitter etc to be sacked and arrested. People from West Cameroon will not be provoked. The consortium will come to this later. We can't let this go. God bless Mark Bareta and Tapang Ivo. For the Consortium. __._,_.___ ------------------------------ Posted by: agendia aloys ------------------------------ Reply via web post • Reply to sender • Reply to group • Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (1) ------------------------------ Have you tried the highest rated email app? With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From David_Allen_AB63 at post.harvard.edu Tue Jan 31 07:10:00 2017 From: David_Allen_AB63 at post.harvard.edu (David Allen) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 07:10:00 -0500 Subject: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump In-Reply-To: <0b0101d27b48$db5c3280$92149780$@gmail.com> References: <015c01d27aa1$979678f0$c6c36ad0$@gmail.com> <9C2B76F8-9D80-488B-9776-22EA251E7D82@gmail.com> <0b0101d27b48$db5c3280$92149780$@gmail.com> Message-ID: So well said, Michael - thanks. Note particularly: > In fact, I believe that one interpretation of the Prisoner’s Dilemma can tell us a great deal about what may occur in the future where the significant likelihood of one player pursuing their own interest and refusing to cooperate with others and especially > a pity that the processes and supporters for multistakeholderism to this point have sought to avoid and downplay issues of democratic governance of the Internet, but perhaps the silver lining/unanticipated consequence of Mr. Trump’s actions is to force this issue to the fore and to precipitate the rethinking and coalition building out of which such a process of democratization might emerge David On Jan 30, 2017, at 5:33 PM, Michael Gurstein wrote: > Yes Gene, and we applaud and support those struggles however, as you well know the Internet is a necessary functionality and resource to the entire world and any material change in how it is “governed” will be of direct interest and concern to the entire world. > > Mr. Trump’s expressed determination to pursue US interests at the expense of all others raises serious questions I would think, about how multistakeholder institutions fragile as they are, can survive when one (and the major player) appears intent on foregoing collaboration and co-determination in favour of unilateralism. > > In fact, I believe that one interpretation of the Prisoner’s Dilemma can tell us a great deal about what may occur in the future where the significant likelihood of one player pursuing their own interest and refusing to cooperate with others forces all other players either to cooperate among themselves or to pursue similar autarchic moves. > > Thus the issue of Mr. Trump and multistakeholderism might be of quite immediate significance to many of the other players in the Internet Governance game as they decide whether to go down the path of Autarchy, align with the alternate polarity that China seems to be pursuing or seek some more widely inclusive form of democratic governance of the Internet. > > It is of course, a pity that the processes and supporters for multistakeholderism to this point have sought to avoid and downplay issues of democratic governance of the Internet, but perhaps the silver lining/unanticipated consequence of Mr. Trump’s actions is to force this issue to the fore and to precipitate the rethinking and coalition building out of which such a process of democratization might emerge and serve the interests of all users and beneficiaries of the Internet. > > M > > From: genekimmelman at gmail.com [mailto:genekimmelman at gmail.com] > Sent: January 29, 2017 7:24 PM > To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Michael Gurstein > Subject: Re: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump > > Many of us in the US are fighting day to day to preserve human rights principles and fundamental constitutional rights in an extremely hostile and dangerous environment. I hope we succeed, and in that context, multistakeholderism may or may not play a role (which doesn't really prove anything!). But I certainly don't think it's a very important issue to worry about at this point in time when so much more is at stake..... > > On Jan 29, 2017, at 9:35 PM, Michael Gurstein wrote: > > A question, what does Multistakeholderism looking like in the context of Mr. Trump’s America First-ism? > > Asking for a friend… > > M > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nb at bollow.ch Tue Jan 31 14:32:12 2017 From: nb at bollow.ch (Norbert Bollow) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 20:32:12 +0100 Subject: [governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter? In-Reply-To: References: <20170130153646.1fbf78eb@quill> Message-ID: <20170131203212.20daa396@quill> Dear Arsène and all Please find our proposal at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pQjEQ5UtR4D7f0HYeJsK0upPKnJTEyWULk-fUSajTd8/edit I'm also including the text below. Greetings, Norbert -- draft starts -- To the ISOC Cameroon Chapter Dear Colleagues The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (IGC, http://igcaucus.org) is a global network of civil society actors who originally came together in the context of the World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS) to promote global public interest objectives in Internet governance policy making. We are firmly convinced that Internet shutdowns are not acceptable in regard to any region and not justifiable in any way, and that such shutdowns must be opposed vigorously. We would have expected everyone who associates themselves with ISOC to be committed to ISOC's principle stating that “The Internet is for Everyone”. For further elaboration of the important principle of /Internet access and affordability/ along with related rights and freedoms, we refer to the African Declaration on Internet Rights and Freedoms, http://africaninternetrights.org/articles/ . In light of these principles and rights, we would like to respectfully urge the ISOC Cameroon Chapter to adopt a corresponding strong stance in regard to Internet shutdowns in some regions of the country, and to denounce and oppose such dreadful measures with all earnestness. The reason why we write to you in this matter is a posting to our mailing list on January 26, 2017, which was signed “ISOC Cameroon, President” and which expressed views that were not at all consistent with the above. Best regards Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) Cc: ISOC’s regional contact for Africa, bekele at isoc.org -- draft ends -- On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:54:30 +0200 Arsène Tungali wrote: > Dear Norbert, > > Thanks for Mawaki and yourself for willing to take on this task. I am > happy with the process as you suggest it (with the hope that everyone > is happy as well): writing to ISOC Cameroon with cc to ISOC Global. > > Please do send us the draft once finalized and we will allow at least > 24 hours for the IGC to comment before this can be sent. Please do > share it in a Google Drive (do not allow edit by anyone but just > allow people to make contributions in form of comments in the margins > of the doc). > > Regards, > A > > ------------------------ > **Arsène Tungali** > Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > *, > CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa > Forum * > Tel: +243 993810967 > GPG: 523644A0 > *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > > 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > > (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > > & Mexico > ) > - AFRISIG 2016 - > Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > & Marrakech > > ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius > )* > - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK > > > 2017-01-30 16:36 GMT+02:00 Norbert Bollow : > > > Dear Arsène and all > > > > After a quick exchange with Mawaki, I'm happy to report that Mawaki > > and I are willing to work out a joint proposal. > > > > In regard to who the letter should be addressed to, Mawaki and I > > think that the statement should be addressed to ISOC Cameroon. At > > the most, we can cc ISOC Global for the record. As made clear in > > the communication excerpts forwarded by Arsène, ISOC Global is > > already taking action and Chapter office holders are volunteers who > > are not bound to the organization by a required line of conduct as > > would be expected from staff of ISOC Global. Therefore we cannot > > reasonably hold the global organization accountable for any Chapter > > official's position and put them in the position to be answerable > > about it -- which will appear as being the case if we address a > > letter to ISOC Global, -- especially when their response is already > > known. > > > > We think that the statement should be short and narrowly focused, > > and articulated on the basis of some basic principles which should > > be sufficiently self-evident to not need any in-depth debate in IGC. > > > > You may expect us to post proposed text shortly. > > > > Greetings, > > Norbert > > > > > > > > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:02:56 +0200 > > Arsène Tungali wrote: > > > > > Dear colleagues, > > > > > > Starting a new thread. > > > > > > I would like to thank everyone for raising your concern about > > > what's going on in Cameroon which is just another country added > > > to the list of African countries that have experienced Internet > > > shutdown. I am from the DRC and we have experienced this more > > > than 3 times and I am in the best position to highly condem this > > > new form of oppression. > > > > > > I would also like to thank everyone who have expressed their > > > concern over what Mr. Janvier had to say about the shutdown in > > > his country, where he volunteerly serve as ISOC Cameroon > > > President. I join you all and condemn his position on this, which > > > I can assure you, is his own position, not shared by his other > > > colleagues at theISOC Chapter. Proof is he reacted to his other > > > colleague who had a different view and who was making an appeal, > > > asking for more coverage and action regarding what's going on in > > > his country. > > > > > > For your information, ISOC has issued a statement > > > > bufferc442c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer> > > > condemning the shutdown in Cameroon as well as in other countries. > > > This show that ISOC, as an organization, does not support > > > shutdowns but rather condem it firmly (as we all know). > > > > > > And, on a different mailing list, Mr. Nicolas Seidler > > > , > > > who is Senior Policy Advisor for ISOC said the following: > > > > > > We felt it was time to formally express our long-standing > > > concerns on such measures, in the context of the Cameroon > > > situation and in view of others to come up in the future. We are > > > also supporting and giving visibility to efforts from Access and > > > members of the Keep it on campaign on our social media channels. > > > > > > And he reacted on Mr. Janvier's stance and ONLY had this to say: > > > Finally, we have an ISOC Chapter in Cameroon, as in many other > > > parts of the worlds. While not all members of Chapters share the > > > same view (a Chapter is made of local volunteers, not staff), > > > there are some who want to act and we’ll make sure to direct them > > > to Deji, Julie and others involved in the advocacy effort. > > > > > > >From the above, we understand that it was a personal point of > > > >view from Mr. > > > Janvier which, as most of our colleagues said here, is completely > > > wrong. I do personally believe that when a single person is > > > restricted access, this should be raised and condemned. In > > > Cameroon, we have 2 regions affected and this is terrible. > > > > > > > > > > > > *Now, coming back to the discussion on this list regarding a > > > statement, I would like to suggest the following:* > > > 1. We can issue a statement adressed to ISOC Global (to ISOC > > > Executive Director for example) condemning the public stance > > > taken by ISOC Cameroon President. May I suggest *Norbert and > > > Mawaki* to make an initial draft statement and share with us > > > within the next 48 hours (if at all possible)? > > > > > > 2. We then issue a more general statement condemning Internet > > > shutdown across the world as a civil society coalition because I > > > am sure this is the new form of opression that Gov are taking (as > > > said by Snowden). It will be very useful we use the expertise we > > > have here to draft this and circulate it widely in all networks > > > as a way to condemn the act but also to raise awareness about the > > > issue (which is still unfamiliar with those who are not actively > > > involved in these discussions or who have never experienced any > > > shutdown). *For this, I would like to ask request few volunteers > > > to make an initial draft statement as well?* > > > > > > Please do let me know what you think or if there is another > > > approach that we can all agree on and take action without > > > wassting more time. If you want to be part of the team of 3 to > > > draft the second statement, please do let us know on this list > > > within the next 48 hours. > > > > > > Very best, > > > > > > Arsene, IGC Co-cooordinator -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t